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Bruce Burgess  
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 More options Sep 25 2003, 1:49 pm
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From: BBICO...@webtv.net (Bruce Burgess)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:17:33 -0400 (EDT)
Local: Thurs, Sep 25 2003 1:17 pm
Subject: any help ? NEWBIE
I am brand new to this game and although I'm not very good at it  ( a
few kills under my belt) I would love to get some advice  on how to be
better.....
like best guns to buy ....
how to duck ?
and the basic keyboard functions for this game
( took me a while to even learn how to buy weapons lol )
I used the training involved with the game but I think more info is
greatly needed
and help is greatly appreciated ...
feel free to email me personally
-bruce burgess

 
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 More options Sep 25 2003, 3:07 pm
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From: "Wayne King" <Nowh...@Nowhere.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:07:47 +0100
Local: Thurs, Sep 25 2003 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: any help ? NEWBIE
UK2 beginner servers might be a good place to practice. Although you often
get some seasoned players there, but because of the kill restriction you
still can have reasonable game as a newbie.

213.232.110.21:27055 UK2.NET 115 BEGINNERS ONLY Maps15
213.232.110.21:27045 UK2.NET 114 BEGINNERS ONLY Maps10
213.232.110.21:27035 UK2.NET 113 BEGINNERS ONLY Maps10
213.232.110.21:27025 UK2.NET 112 BEGINNERS ONLY Maps5
213.232.110.21:27015 UK2.NET 111 BEGINNERS ONLY Maps5
213.232.110.20:27055 UK2.NET 105 BEGINNERS ONLY Assault
213.232.110.20:27045 UK2.NET 104 BEGINNERS ONLY Militia
213.232.110.20:27035 UK2.NET 103 BEGINNERS ONLY Italt
213.232.110.20:27025 UK2.NET 102 BEGINNERS ONLY Dust
213.232.110.20:27015 UK2.NET 101 BEGINNERS ONLY Dust
213.232.110.19:27055 UK2.NET 095 BEGINNERS ONLY Assault
213.232.110.19:27045 UK2.NET 094 BEGINNERS ONLY Militia
213.232.110.19:27035 UK2.NET 093 BEGINNERS ONLY Italy
213.232.110.19:27025 UK2.NET 092 BEGINNERS ONLY Inferno
213.232.110.19:27015 UK2.NET 091 BEGINNERS ONLY Dust

Just keep practicing, you'll get the hang of it, it's not that complicated
really. Learning the maps is probably a good idea. Find the spots that give
you the greatest advantages etc. Watch other players and what they do.

Happy fragging

Wayne King (If you need a hand I have one spare)

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Michael Hughes  
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 More options Sep 25 2003, 5:35 pm
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From: "Michael Hughes" <dapaintschmuck**IZASEXYBEAS...@rcn.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:34:23 -0400
Local: Thurs, Sep 25 2003 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: any help ? NEWBIE
1. M4 or AK
2. RTFM
3. RTFM
4.RTFM

"Bruce Burgess" <BBICO...@webtv.net> wrote in message

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> I am brand new to this game and although I'm not very good at it  ( a
> few kills under my belt) I would love to get some advice  on how to be
> better.....
> like best guns to buy ....
> how to duck ?
> and the basic keyboard functions for this game
> ( took me a while to even learn how to buy weapons lol )
> I used the training involved with the game but I think more info is
> greatly needed
> and help is greatly appreciated ...
> feel free to email me personally
> -bruce burgess

1. M4 or AK
2. RTFM
3. RTFM
4.RTFM

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 More options Sep 25 2003, 8:00 pm
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From: "Spider717" <spider...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:00:38 -0400
Local: Thurs, Sep 25 2003 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: any help ? NEWBIE
buy some headphones.   They make a world of differnce.

 
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 More options Sep 25 2003, 8:02 pm
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From: "Styvaen" <ab...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:03:32 +0100
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Subject: Re: any help ? NEWBIE

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> buy some headphones.   They make a world of differnce.

To your neighbours at 3 in the morning.

Styvaen.


 
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 More options Sep 26 2003, 12:37 am
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From: Joseph Oberlander <josephoberlan...@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 04:37:05 GMT
Local: Fri, Sep 26 2003 12:37 am
Subject: Re: any help ? NEWBIE

>>I am brand new to this game and although I'm not very good at it  ( a
>>few kills under my belt) I would love to get some advice  on how to be
>>better.....
>>like best guns to buy ....

Welcome to the addiction that is CS. :)

**Standard Newbie Guide V 1.1**

- Never duck unless you are purposely hiding.  It makes your head
about the only target they'll hit if they aim a bit high due to
hitbox handling.

- Stay with the others in a clump.  Single players are fodder, but
a team of 4-5 people can clean a map quicker than a window washer
can whip out his squeegee.  Let your teammates soak up the hits and
you finish off the leftovers.

- Be frugal.  Save some money.  Be a scrounge.  Hang back a little
bit and pick up other people's weapons if you are low on cash.
(common for a newbie to need funds midgame)

- Armor works - buy it.  Does little vs guns, but is golden
against grenades.  That last 10hp at the end of the round
may be yours while your armorless enemy is worm food.

- Always buy a grenade.  Always.  Save it for the very end
of the round and resist the urge to spam with the newbies.
When the enemy is closing on you at the end and you all are
damaged and bleeding, it can take out 2-3 weakened opponents.
Also good for a kamakazi attack at the end - hold it and
pull then pin right before they shoot you.  You drop the grenade
and it goes off a second later.  What else you going to do
when 3 opponents are chargin you and you have 10HP? :)

- Nightvision is very nice for a new player - often overlooked
but great accessory for the sneaky player until they memorize the
maps.

- When a grenade is being thrown at you, turn to the side
quickly(vision) - It makes the possible flash effect about
half as bad and often JUST light enough to make out enemy shadows.
(usually not, but it helps some)

- If you are on defense, run back and top off your ammo
after the first minute or two.  Crutial for ammo-hungry
weapons like the Colt, AK, and Auto-shotty.

- When you are one of the last persons on the map, pick up
weapons and upgrade, keeping yours as full as possible.
Also, tossing that AWM you run across into a dark corner
is good - don't let them get a free gun if you can.

Good weapons:

Pistols:
P228 - negligible recoil and faster reload.  Think of it as
        a double-powered Glock.  No burst-mode, though.
        great ammo capacity.  Best pistol in the game.
        Roughly the same power as the USP unsilenced.
        Better clip capacity as well.

USP -  Accurate and better power than the Glock.
        Silent when used with the silencer.  Almost as good
        as a Colt/AR-15 rifle in the right hands for long-range
        plinking.  A major bonus for CTs as they get this superb
        weapon for free every round.  First round of the game,
        toss the glock and buy a DE or USP if you are T.
        Note:
        Lower powered, though, when silenced than any other gun.
        Plinking and sniping only in silenced mode.

        Buy this for the silencer effect, not for damage.

Desert Eagle - powerful and does 60-70 damage to your head
        from a headshot.  In the endgame, it is as good as an
        auto-sniper rifle - 20-30 damage per hit is often good
        enough to finish off weakened opponents instantly.
        Also goes through boxes and doors.  Chews through
        ammo, though.

SMGs:
P90 -  The uber-SMG.  It has a fearsome accuracy and large
        clip as well as one of the fastest firing rates.
        3-5 shot quick bursts work best.  Blaap  Blaap  Blaap.

UMP -  The best SMG, IMO - because it goes through doors and
        boxes or one wall.  It also bypasses armor like the
        higher-powered rifles.  Watch your ammo, though.
        Ammo IS interchangeable with the USP, though, so
        they also make a great combo - your USP basically never
        runs out of ammo OR you can pick up dead people's USPs
        and feed it.

Shottys:
12-Gauge Pump - hard to aim but brutally effective for defense.
        Not recommended for a newbie, but it is inexpensive.
        In the hands of a pro, though, it is as good as an AWM
        in close-quarters.  Boom - dead.  Boom - dead.  Missing
        gets you dead in return, though(grin).  Very unforgiving just
        like the AWM in that way.  I use this versus AWMers
        believe it or not as even if they DO hit me for 83 damage
        from arm shot, I do almost the same in return AND reload
        faster.  They are going to take some damage reguardless
        of what cheat or hack they are running.  Damage is basically
        impossible to dodge as well.   You see hackers slow down
        when they see this around a corner with their wallhack
        as it is like stepping on a mine and can insta-kill them.
        (great to watch when you are in spectator mode - heh)

        It's the only weapon other than the AWM that they fear and
        that can kill you in one shot reliably.  Great bragging rights
        as well if you can creep up behind them.

Auto-Shotty - I get most of my kills with this weapon.  Very
        underappreciated.  Very lethal.  It takes 4 shots to
        kill a full health opponent, so start reloading as
        soon as you start firing(can do both at the same time)
        to be able to get 8-9 shots off before running out of ammo.
        (two kills is possible using this trick)

        Note - because of the way the engine deal with shots,
        the shotguns are different.  They *always* shoot where you
        point them with no deviation or error.  The difference is that
        they have spread from that point in a small cone.  This basically
        means that if you put your crosshair on the target, at least one
        pellet will hit them reguardless of range.  Most often, several
        will hit.   It can also, therefore, double as a pistol for long
        range plinking(not recommended, though, as a Glock fires faster)

Rifles:(aka - the good toys)
Colt/AR-15 - Accuracy, silencer, and good cost.  A very nice
        weapon.  Pick one up if it's lying around and you are
        playing T.  Famous for the headshots from nowhere.
        If you are more than about 40 ft from them, and they have
        the silencer on, you don't see or hear anything other than
        the bullets that hit.  Newbies often think people are
        cheating when they get tagged by three bullets and die
        without hearing anything.  It's a Colt.  Nasty weapon. :)

Aug & Commando - These are the best weapons in the game - I get my
        second highest number of kills with these.  Accurate, headshot
        machines with a scope.  Fire off 1-2 shot bursts only
        with a .5-1.0 second pause between them - it will work
        as well as an auto-sniper and give you almost Scout
        accuracy.   The Commando has a better scope and the
        AUG a bit better accuracy.

        I often forgo a scout or auto-scout and use this as
        a sniper rifle.  Bam...Bam...Bam...  Same rate of fire
        as the autosniper and yet half the recoil while zoomed
        AND full auto if they get in close.  Larger clip, too.

        With it or the Commando/AUG, you can also fake people out
        with 1 second waits between shots - they think you are
        plinking them with a Scout and then find out it's a
        burst of bullets coming their way when they stick their head
        out.  1-3 shot bursts are best.

Scout - The second best sniper rifle as you can move decently fast
        while zoomed/get out of the way.  It also has great
        accuracy, lower noise, and a faster reload time than
        a an AWP.  The AWP is a waste of money as a good player
        can do the same job as an AWP with the Scout or AUG.
        A newbie will just die and waste a lot of money on the AWM.
        Using a Scout instead at least gives the newbie a chance
        to do some damage.

Auto Sniper(SIG) - CT only weapon but the best sniper rifle in the
        game.  It's less money than the AWM and is effectively a
        semi-auto Scout.  It's almost as good as the AUG/Commando
        in terms of versatility and has a nice sized clip.

        The CT Auto Sniper is technically a superior weapon in
        every way, but it is too expensive when the Commando does
        just as good a job in the right hands.

Update:
On the new guns - The new guns are not as good as the old standbys
with the possible exception of the Glock-Rifle(the FAMAS, iirc).
3-shot bursts are standard on the M1A1 in real life, but in CS,
this gives you your burst without the learning curve.  JUst wait
half a second between shots with it.


 
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Spider717  
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 More options Sep 26 2003, 1:33 am
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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:33:01 -0400
Local: Fri, Sep 26 2003 1:33 am
Subject: Re: any help ? NEWBIE
actually it's much easier to hear things with headphones than speakers.
This will help the guy get a jump on his enemys.

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Neil  
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 More options Sep 27 2003, 6:58 am
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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:27:26 +0100
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Subject: Re: any help ? NEWBIE
Nice tip..

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 More options Sep 27 2003, 10:56 pm
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From: "Lief" <ask.me....@it.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 03:59:29 +0100
Local: Sat, Sep 27 2003 10:59 pm
Subject: Re: any help ? NEWBIE
Standard annoy joseph edit coming up :P

> **Standard Newbie Guide V 1.1**

> - Never duck unless you are purposely hiding.  It makes your head
> about the only target they'll hit if they aim a bit high due to
> hitbox handling.

Generally true, I only use duck to see over objects (hit duck quickly and
you can see higher, go figure).

> - Stay with the others in a clump.  Single players are fodder, but
> a team of 4-5 people can clean a map quicker than a window washer
> can whip out his squeegee.  Let your teammates soak up the hits and
> you finish off the leftovers.

Be sure not to get TOO close though, blocking is bad!

> - Be frugal.  Save some money.  Be a scrounge.  Hang back a little
> bit and pick up other people's weapons if you are low on cash.
> (common for a newbie to need funds midgame)

Generally if you cant afford full armour and a rifle, dont buy anything
(save a def kit as a ct on bomb maps), save it all for next round.

> - Armor works - buy it.  Does little vs guns, but is golden
> against grenades.  That last 10hp at the end of the round
> may be yours while your armorless enemy is worm food.

Only  ever buy full armour, cheaper stuff is generally useless.

> - Always buy a grenade.  Always.  Save it for the very end
> of the round and resist the urge to spam with the newbies.
> When the enemy is closing on you at the end and you all are
> damaged and bleeding, it can take out 2-3 weakened opponents.
> Also good for a kamakazi attack at the end - hold it and
> pull then pin right before they shoot you.  You drop the grenade
> and it goes off a second later.  What else you going to do
> when 3 opponents are chargin you and you have 10HP? :)

Agreed, choose the time of flinging wisely.

> - Nightvision is very nice for a new player - often overlooked
> but great accessory for the sneaky player until they memorize the
> maps.

Nightvision, in my experience, is more of a hinderance than a help.  Sort
your gamma levels instead.

> - When a grenade is being thrown at you, turn to the side
> quickly(vision) - It makes the possible flash effect about
> half as bad and often JUST light enough to make out enemy shadows.
> (usually not, but it helps some)

Turn on most incoming grenades, soon you will be able to hear the difference
a He makes from a Smoke / flash.  Beware the Heaton flash trick (throwing a
smoke then attacking, as they turn away from the presumed flash).

> - If you are on defense, run back and top off your ammo
> after the first minute or two.  Crutial for ammo-hungry
> weapons like the Colt, AK, and Auto-shotty.

Bah, save you ammo instead, rarley will I run out with any gun.  I only but
1 clip for the awp, for instance.

> - When you are one of the last persons on the map, pick up
> weapons and upgrade, keeping yours as full as possible.
> Also, tossing that AWM you run across into a dark corner
> is good - don't let them get a free gun if you can.

If you are last man, just try and do the objective, dont piss about, just
get on with it.  You will probably die, but die trying.

Deagle / USP / Glock.  Use no others, you need no others (though 5-7 and
elites are funs :D ).

> SMGs:
> P90 -  The uber-SMG.  It has a fearsome accuracy and large
>         clip as well as one of the fastest firing rates.
>         3-5 shot quick bursts work best.  Blaap  Blaap  Blaap.

> UMP -  The best SMG, IMO - because it goes through doors and
>         boxes or one wall.  It also bypasses armor like the
>         higher-powered rifles.  Watch your ammo, though.
>         Ammo IS interchangeable with the USP, though, so
>         they also make a great combo - your USP basically never
>         runs out of ammo OR you can pick up dead people's USPs
>         and feed it.

MP5 and P90 (prefer MP5 myself).

MP5 is one of the best learning guns.

Both good guns, M3 being my favourite of the two for the power, auto runs
out of ammo too fast for my liking, though nice and powerful up close.

Best gun in the game is AK-47, next best rifle is colt, then aug, then sig.

AK has the power, while not as accurate as colt at distance, you will rarely
have to fire it so.

I have said it before and I will say ...

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