Games of the year, century, decade, blah.
Wyvern
Games of the century
5.Metal Gear Solid
In terms of story, replay value, appeal and overall well-roundedness,
probably the best game ever made.
4.DragonQuest/Dragon Warrior
Without this game there would be no FF. And no Lunar, Thousand Arms,
Xenogears, Grandia, or even Beyond the Beyond. And what would we do without
Beyond the Beyond.....
3.Super Mario Bros.
At least half the world gaming populations' first game, and one that you can
still waste hours on.
2.Pong
Duh
1.Pac-Man
Brilliant in it's simplicity, insanly difficult to master (only one person's
ever done it,and all it took him was playing it every day for twenty years.
So if you think you don't have a life, at least your not this guy.) and
endlessly entertaining, this is the game that proved video games were more
than a fad, they were a new medium. Plus it had it's own cereal.
honorable mentions: Final Fantasy, (for building on DQ's forumla with
parties, a story, and overall perfecting the RPG into what it is today)
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior,(the first modern fighting game) The
Legend of Zelda,(one of those games people will be stuck in fifty years
after we're all dead) Dragon's Lair (the first game with FMV....even if
that's all it was) Pokemon (for bringing RPG's intot he mainstream and
achiveing levels of popularity not seen since....well, since Pac-man.) and
this game I played at Chuck E. Cheese when I was five wich had this little
bear dressed as a wizard (because it has a little bear dressed as a wizard.
And he hops!)
Games of the decade:
5.Final Fantasy VIII
The best 32-bit RPG yet made. At least I think so.
4.Super Mario Bros. 3
The best platformer ever made and the best selling game ever,too.
3.Street Figher II
How good is this game? They remade it 47 times and people still bought it.
How influencial is this game? Go count it's clones.
2.Metal Gear Solid
The game that strove to tell a shocked nation that a nuclear war would be
bad.
1. APE ESCAPE!
.......
You guys are so gullible. No, actually it's-
1.Chrono Trigger
Square's finest hour and the best Console RPG in the history of my pants.
Games of the year (1999)
5.Lunar:Silver Star Story
The only RPG I played this year where I never found myself running from
enemies out of sheer boredom at fighting them.
4.Street Fighter Alpha 3
Ryu is still your master. SHIN SHORYUKEN!
3.Thousand Arms
Dating, my ass! I'm playing this game for lines like "My mom keeps talking
about 'biagra' " and "Why doesen't my line have a voiceover? What? I'm just
an extra? This sucks!"
2.Metal Gear Solid:VR Missions
Q:Define "fun"
A:Shooting at wave after wave of helpless guards with your surface-to-air
missles, and seeing how many you can kill in one minute.
I understand there's some other stuff you can do in this game,too.
1.Ape Escape
Yeah,right. Anyway, it's.....
1.Final Fantasy VIII
I'm sorry, folks, but I still found myself having more fun with this game
than any other I played last year. I guess I'm just not hardcore.
Honorable mentions:Pokemon Yellow, Legacy of Kain:Soul Reaver
While I'm at it, let's just do the second annual Wyvern awards now.
BEST GAME MOMENT:
Luna's Boat Song
runner-up:FFVIII-the ending.
BEST MALE LEAD
Ape Escape....uh, I mean, Squall Leonhart (FFVIII)
runner up:Meis Triumph (Thousand Arms)
BEST FEMALE LEAD
Luna (Lunar)
runner up:Rinoa Heartilly (FFVIII)
BEST MALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
ZELL DINCHT (FFVIII)
runnerup: Muza (Thousand Arms)
Best FEMALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
WYNA GRAPPLE (Thousand Arms)
runnerup:Selphie Tilmett (FFVIII)
BEST NON PLAYABLE SUPPORTING CHARECTER:
NALL (Lunar)
runnerup:THE ELDER (Soul Reaver)
BEST VOICE-OVER
LEGACY OF KAIN:SOUL REAVER
runnerup:Lunar
BEST VILLAIN
GHALEON (Lunar)
runnerup:TEAM ROCKET (Pokemon Yellow)
WORST VILLIAN:
Ultimecia (FFVIII)
BEST MINIGAME
TIE:TRIPLE TRAID (FFVIII)/DATING (Thousand Arms)
BEST STORY
FINAL FANTASY VIII
runnerup:I dunno. Lunar and Thousand Arms' plots were both cliched but
well-written, none of the other game's plots were good enough, so I'll go
back to the source of the cliches and give the runner up to Final Fantasy V.
MOST OVERRATED:
STAR OCEAN:THE SECOND STORY
Maybe if this game had a functioning battle system and voice actors who
don't sound like they have downs syndrome, I might want to play it.
BEST BATTLE SYSTEM:
Final Fantasy V
runnerup:Final Fantasy VIII
(SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT)
BEST PLOT TWIST (FFVIII spoilers)
Edea gets her powers from Ultimecia.
STUPIDEST PLOT TWIST (FFVIII spoilers)
"Oh, but we all used to live at the same orphanage but then we forgot!"
Um....that's it. I could put something funny here, but maybe I dont want to
be your clown anymore! Maybe I want to run free and live with my people, the
proud walrus tribe, without the white man looking at me and pointing and
laughing! To hell with all of you! *poisons your water supply*
-Wyvern
RelMark
"Wyvern" <f...@ke-email.adress> wrote in message
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That was one of the first arcade games I played. It was included in one of
the
recent compilations for the Playstation, but it just wasn't the same without
a
trackball for control.
What, no runner-up?
RelMark
Neal Evan Wilson #i
"Wyvern" <f...@ke-email.adress> wrote:
÷Look everyone! This year has THREE zeros in it! Let's make lists of things!
÷
÷While I'm at it, let's just do the second annual Wyvern awards now.
÷
Bah, when do we get another round of the Wyvies? (These can't be them
because the categories are different)
Neal Evan Wilson
To see my real .sig, go to http://www.execpc.com/~wilcafe/.../.sig
And now, quotes:
"Move over, $7,000 coffeepots! Stand aside, $400 hammers! We now have the $792 doormat."
--Senator William Proxmire, New York Times, October 4, 1985
"Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there."
--Eric Hoffer, The Passionate State of Mind, 1954
"The more controlled, limited, and tormented art is, the freer it is."
--Igor Stravinsky, Poetics of Music, 1948
"The average, healthy, well-adjusted adult gets up at seven-thirty in the morning feeling just plain terrible."
--Jean Kerr, Please Don't Eat the Daisies, 1957
"The great artists are those who impose their peculiar illusion on the rest of mankind."
--Guy do Maupassant, Pierre et Jean, 1888
"No man is a Christian who cheats his fellows, perverts the truth, or speaks of a 'clean bomb,' yet he will be the first to make public his faith in God."
--Marya Mannes, More in Anger, 1958
"Gods are born and die, but the atom endures."
--Alexander Chase, Perspectives, 1966
"Living is being born slowly. It would be a little too easy if we could borrow ready-made souls."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, Flight to Arras, 1942
"We must dare to think 'unthinkable' thoughts.... We must learn to welcome and not fear the voices of dissent.... Because when things become unthinkable, thinking stops and action becomes mindless."
--J.W. Fulbright, speech, U.S. Senate, March 27, 1964
"Men are created different; they lose their social freedom and their individual autonomy in seeking to become like each other."
--David Riesman, The Lonely Crowd, 1950
"Everything in life is somewhere else, and you get there in a car."
--E.B. White, One Man's Meat, 1943
"Books are the curse of the human race. Nine-tenths of existing books are nonsense, and the clever books are the refutation of that nonsense. The greatest misfortune that ever befell man was the invention of printing."
--Benjamin Disraeli, Lothair, 1870
"The Christian religion is essentially a religion of sensual pleasures. Sin is the great attraction,... the more one feels oneself a sinner, the more Christian one is."
--Novalis (d. 1801), Fragments
"A wise man turns chance into good fortune."
--Thomas Fuller, Gnomologia, 1723
"Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right."
--Van der Post, The Lost World of the Kalahari, 1958
"Grown-ups never understand anything for themselves, and it is tiresome for children to be always and forever explaining things to them."
--Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince, 1943
"I have no objection to churches so long as they do not interfere with God's work."
--Brooks Atkinson, Once around the Sun, 1951
"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult and left untried."
--C.K. Chesterton, What's Wrong with the World?, 1910
"The first gold star a child gets in school for the mere performance of a needful task is its first lesson in graft."
--Philip Wylie, Generation of Vipers, 1942
"The more marvelous is the progress of the motion picture industry, the more pernicious and deadly has it shown itself to moralty, religion, and even the very decencies of human society."
--Pope Pius XI, Vigilanti cura, 1936
"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted."
--Martin Luther King, Jr., Strength to Love, 1963
"Avarice and luxury, those evils which have been the ruin of every great state."
--Livy (d. A.D. 17), History of Rome
"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern; every class is unfit to govern."
--Lord Acton to Mary Gladstone, April 24, 1881
"Some people take more care to hide their wisdom than their folly."
--Jonathan Swift, Thoughts on Various Subjects, 1711
This post has been demonically mastered for optimal mental and physical disturbance.
HPL
Sean Daugherty
>Look everyone! This year has THREE zeros in it! Let's make lists of things!
>
>Games of the century
Assuming video games only....
5. The Legend of Zelda
Although it may not be an RPG in the strict sense of the word,
for many gamers it was the first game that involved more than hopping
on turtles. Still remarkable in its depth.
4. Space Wars
Never heard of it? Doesn't surprise me. But it was the first
video game ever, and for that alone, it deserves mention.
3. Pong
The first home video game, and to this day the only video game
my father will play <shrugs>
2. Pac-Man
Video gaming's first superstar. Despite some half-hearted
attempts to revive the franchise in the 90's, the original is still
the one everyone remembers.
1. Super Mario Bros.
Surpassing Pac-Man is renown and longevity, the brothers Mario
became arguably the first cultural icon to arrive out of video games.
Even fifteen years later, the name "Mario" is still synonimous in most
people's minds to "video games".
>Games of the decade:
5. Final Fantasy VII
The game that made role playing games cool. While I may not
enjoy it as much as its sequel, it deserves mention for what it did
for the market alone.
4. Street Fighter II
Almost ten years later, with innumerable sequels/clones under
its belt, it almost single-handedly created a genre.
3. Metal Gear Solid
One of the first significant gaming fads that didn't
automatically conjure up images of spotty preteen boys. An intelligent
and engrossing experience.
2. Tomb Raider
Here's the pitch: an intelligent, involving modernization of
the old Pitfall concept, but with a main character who is sure to
appeal to the market gaming needs least: sad, forty year-old single
men. A+ on execution, C- on marketing.
1. Pokemon
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Pokemon, by any means. But
there are so many other games I wanted to put here: Castlevania:
Symphony of the Night, Lunar, Final Fantasy Tactics, Harvest Moon,
etc. But, when it comes down to it, Pokemon is inescapable. Its the
Godzilla of marketing fads. Even if I regard the games with marginal
interest, I have to admire the hype around it... or fear it, take your
pick.
Dishonorable mention goes to Mortal Kombat, for proving you don't need
quality standards to make fad, and Night Trap, for opening a Pandora's
box of puritanical censorship concerns on the entire gaming industry,
while simeltaneously being a ridiculously bad game.
>Games of the year (1999)
5. Star Ocean: The Second Story
OK, so it had some serious flaws, from atrocious voice acting,
a nonexistant storyline, and some overcomplicated menu commands, but
it deserves note for its sheer inventiveness alone.
4. Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
For setting a new standard in "collector's edition" packaging
and just generally being an exciting and involving game.
3. Silent Hill
Bad voice acting aside, the scariest, most atmospheric video
game I've ever played, and probably the best non-RPG I've played in
years.
2. Final Fantasy VIII
A complex and engrossing game engine, beautiful graphics...
not so great story, but otherwise a memorable experience.
1. Grandia
A fun little excursion, perhaps a tad lightweight, but
enjoyable all the way through.
>BEST GAME MOMENT:
Opening (Silent Hill)
runner-up: The Boat Song (Lunar: SSSC)
>BEST MALE LEAD
Justin (Grandia)
runner-up: Harry Mason (Silent Hill)
>BEST FEMALE LEAD
Luna (Lunar)
runner-up: Regina (Dino Crisis)
>BEST MALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
Irvine Kinneas (FF8)
runner-up: Laguna Loire (FF8)
>Best FEMALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
Quistis Trepe (FF8)
runner-up: Feena (Grandia)
>BEST NON PLAYABLE SUPPORTING CHARECTER:
Lilly (Grandia)
runner-up: Ellone (FF8)
>BEST VOICE-OVER
Honestly, I'm drawing a blank on this one <shrugs>
>BEST VILLAIN
Magic Emperor Ghaleon (Lunar: SSSC)
>WORST VILLIAN:
Tie: Ultimecia (FF8) / Indalecio (SO2)
>BEST MINIGAME
Triple Triad, hands down.
>BEST STORY
Silent Hill
runner-up: Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
>MOST OVERRATED:
Probably Star Ocean: The Second Story, although I still enjoyed it.
>BEST BATTLE SYSTEM:
Final Fantasy VIII
runner-up: Grandia
>(SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT)
>
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>
>
>
>
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>
>
>BEST PLOT TWIST (FFVIII spoilers)
I'm gonna have to agree and say the Edea/Ultimecia power trade-off.
Either that, or the entire plot of Silent Hill.
>STUPIDEST PLOT TWIST (FFVIII spoilers)
>
>"Oh, but we all used to live at the same orphanage but then we forgot!"
Yeah. Hands down.
--
Sean Daugherty (sean.da...@oberlin.edu ~ ICQ: 20801608)
"The ball is round. The game lasts 90 minutes. This is
fact. Everything else is theory." - Run Lola Run
David McReynolds for President ~ Mary Cal Hollis for VP
Vote Socialist in 2000!
wy
Address == "sean.da...@oberlin.edu"
Date == "Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:51:36 -0500"
MessageID == "<2u698ssf1o7ojqlgp...@4ax.com>"
SD|;P~ Assuming video games only....
[game of the century stuff snipped]
Too many games for me to make a decision.
>>Games of the decade:
[snipped]
Same here.
>>Games of the year (1999)
SD|;P~ 5. Star Ocean: The Second Story
SD|;P~ 4. Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
SD|;P~ 3. Silent Hill
SD|;P~ 2. Final Fantasy VIII
SD|;P~ 1. Grandia
My turn:
5. Resident Evil 3
4. Metal Gear Solid (hey, is this game released in 98 or 99....-_-)
3. Star Ocean 2
2. Lunar SSSC
1. FF8
For some reason I just don't like Grandia, while I like Lunar a lot.
I started to think what the hell is wrong here.....-_-
>>BEST GAME MOMENT:
SD|;P~ Opening (Silent Hill)
SD|;P~ runner-up: The Boat Song (Lunar: SSSC)
Ending of FF8, no runner-up. (nothing even come close..)
>>BEST MALE LEAD
SD|;P~ Justin (Grandia)
SD|;P~ runner-up: Harry Mason (Silent Hill)
Squall
Solid Snake as runner-up.
>>BEST FEMALE LEAD
SD|;P~ Luna (Lunar)
SD|;P~ runner-up: Regina (Dino Crisis)
Luna
Rinoa as runner-up.
Feena, 3rd
Rena, 4th
>>BEST MALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
SD|;P~ Irvine Kinneas (FF8)
SD|;P~ runner-up: Laguna Loire (FF8)
Laguna Loire
Kyle (Lunar) as runner-up.
>>Best FEMALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
SD|;P~ Quistis Trepe (FF8)
SD|;P~ runner-up: Feena (Grandia)
Jessica (Lunar)
Mia as runner-up
Quistis as distant 3rd...
btw, Sean, isn't Feena a female lead character...?
>>BEST NON PLAYABLE SUPPORTING CHARECTER:
SD|;P~ Lilly (Grandia)
SD|;P~ runner-up: Ellone (FF8)
I really couldn't decide on this one, but Sean's picks are
pretty good....Lilly is such an awesome mom. A former well-known
pirate that everyone is so afraid of, an awesome cook, pretty, and
etc etc. One just couldn't ask for more....:P
>>BEST VOICE-OVER
SD|;P~ Honestly, I'm drawing a blank on this one <shrugs>
Metal Gear Solid
>>BEST VILLAIN
SD|;P~ Magic Emperor Ghaleon (Lunar: SSSC)
I would say Ghaleon too for RPG, for adventure games,
I would say Liquid Snake and Nemesis, man, they just
won't give up no matter how many times you kicked their
ass...
>>WORST VILLIAN:
SD|;P~ Tie: Ultimecia (FF8) / Indalecio (SO2)
Indalecio, Magic Emperor (that cheap punk from Thousand Arms),
and that general guy and Gaia in Grandia.
>>BEST MINIGAME
SD|;P~ Triple Triad, hands down.
Nothing beats TT here.
>>BEST STORY
SD|;P~ Silent Hill
SD|;P~ runner-up: Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
FF8
Lunar SSSC
Too bad I didn't spend that much time with Silent Hill.
>>MOST OVERRATED:
SD|;P~ Probably Star Ocean: The Second Story, although I still enjoyed it.
Thousand Arms
Grandia as runner-up
If I could include FFA, I will put FF5 as runner-up after Thousand Arms.
>>BEST BATTLE SYSTEM:
SD|;P~ Final Fantasy VIII
SD|;P~ runner-up: Grandia
FF8
SO2 as runner up
>>BEST PLOT TWIST (FFVIII spoilers)
SD|;P~ I'm gonna have to agree and say the Edea/Ultimecia power trade-off.
SD|;P~ Either that, or the entire plot of Silent Hill.
I couldn't think of one that I particularly like, so I would say NONE.
>>STUPIDEST PLOT TWIST (FFVIII spoilers)
>>"Oh, but we all used to live at the same orphanage but then we forgot!"
SD|;P~ Yeah. Hands down.
SO2 - That planet blow-up thingie at the end of disc 1, along with 10 Wise
Men coming out of nowhere.
wy
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Address == "nos...@nospam.tufts.edu"
Date == "Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:00:54 GMT"
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>>>BEST FEMALE LEAD
w|;P~ SD|;P~ Luna (Lunar)
w|;P~ SD|;P~ runner-up: Regina (Dino Crisis)
w|;P~ Luna
w|;P~ Rinoa as runner-up.
w|;P~ Feena, 3rd
w|;P~ Rena, 4th
Hey..I started to notice all these girls have the letter "a" at the end of
their names......with 3 -na there....
*scratches head*
Sailor Ramen
babbled...
> Look everyone! This year has THREE zeros in it! Let's make lists of things!
>
> Games of the century
OK.
> 4.DragonQuest/Dragon Warrior
Eh, I don't know, I think someone would have come up with the idea
eventually.
> 2.Pong
>
> Duh
Booorriiinggg...
> honorable mentions: Final Fantasy, (for building on DQ's forumla with
> parties, a story, and overall perfecting the RPG into what it is today)
> Street Fighter II: The World Warrior,(the first modern fighting game) The
> Legend of Zelda,(one of those games people will be stuck in fifty years
> after we're all dead) Dragon's Lair (the first game with FMV....even if
> that's all it was) Pokemon (for bringing RPG's intot he mainstream and
> achiveing levels of popularity not seen since....well, since Pac-man.) and
> this game I played at Chuck E. Cheese when I was five wich had this little
> bear dressed as a wizard (because it has a little bear dressed as a wizard.
> And he hops!)
Why isn't Contra on this List? Or Starcraft? Or Doom? I mean Doom
practically created FPS games, and Starcraft is the best war sim ever. And
Contra, well it's just cool.
> 4.Super Mario Bros. 3
>
> The best platformer ever made and the best selling game ever,too.
Damn right.
> 3.Street Figher II
>
> How good is this game? They remade it 47 times and people still bought it.
> How influencial is this game? Go count it's clones.
Only the original and Super Street fighter 2 were any good. That Turbo crap
sucks.
> 2.Metal Gear Solid
> The game that strove to tell a shocked nation that a nuclear war would be
> bad.
I think that's it's one flaw, the gamem seems to be a bit preachy.
> Games of the year (1999)
> 5.Lunar:Silver Star Story
> The only RPG I played this year where I never found myself running from
> enemies out of sheer boredom at fighting them.
Heh. and it had some fun characters. It was a nice change from FF7's "We
are all troubled and depressing" characters.
> 3.Thousand Arms
> Dating, my ass! I'm playing this game for lines like "My mom keeps talking
> about 'biagra' " and "Why doesen't my line have a voiceover? What? I'm just
> an extra? This sucks!"
I really need to get this gam before TRU sells it's last copy and I will
never find it again.
> 2.Metal Gear Solid:VR Missions
> Q:Define "fun"
> A:Shooting at wave after wave of helpless guards with your surface-to-air
> missles, and seeing how many you can kill in one minute.
> I understand there's some other stuff you can do in this game,too.
Bah, the VR part of MGS wasn't all that fun and I can't imagin paying 50
bucks for something that is solely that.
> 1.Ape Escape
> Yeah,right. Anyway, it's.....
Do you mock he apes?
> BEST GAME MOMENT:
> Luna's Boat Song
To think they were going to drop that too for time restraints.
> BEST MALE LEAD
>
> Ape Escape....uh, I mean, Squall Leonhart (FFVIII)
FF8 fan-boy....
> BEST FEMALE LEAD
> Luna (Lunar)
Damn right.
> BEST NON PLAYABLE SUPPORTING CHARECTER:
>
> NALL (Lunar)
He's a bit annoying sometimes though. And it's a cat I say!
> BEST VILLAIN
> GHALEON (Lunar)
I don't know, So far I have wanted to kill most of MGS's enemies, I don't
have much hate for Ghaleon though. I suppose had I played Lunar within the
last few weeks I may feel different.
> runnerup:TEAM ROCKET (Pokemon Yellow)
BWA HA HA HA!
--
Ramen Junkie
Traveler from AGFF.
Sean Daugherty
>btw, Sean, isn't Feena a female lead character...?
Sort of, I guess. I had a difficult time calling it. In the end, I put
her in the supporting character list because I wanted to put other
people in the lead category <shrugs>
>Too bad I didn't spend that much time with Silent Hill.
Love that game....
>>>STUPIDEST PLOT TWIST (FFVIII spoilers)
>>>"Oh, but we all used to live at the same orphanage but then we forgot!"
>SD|;P~ Yeah. Hands down.
>
>SO2 - That planet blow-up thingie at the end of disc 1, along with 10 Wise
> Men coming out of nowhere.
Ooh, almost forgot about that one. Choices, choices....
Sean Daugherty
>I was looking through all these lists for just one thing ... what happened
>to Xenogears??? You all haven't played it or something?
To be fair, the Wyvies really only refer to games released the
previous year ('99... Xenogears was released in '98). As for the games
of the decade / century list, well, I can't claim to speak for anyone
else, but Xenogears would easily get my award for most overrated video
game of the decade if not for Mortal Kombat. Uninspired, repetitive
combat, hideous scripting, a rather dull main character, and text that
crawls by at the speed of an invalid sloth. An RPG should not actively
make me want to avoid townspeople and extras at all costs.
On the other hand, and not to be too negative, it had Elly, who,
despite the game's multitude of flaws, is still probably the best
female RPG lead to date.
>BEST MINIGAME:
>
>Stuff that annoying Triple Triad, it would have to be battle arena
>(Xenogears). Steet Fighter-esque fun ^_^
Urk. One of the most annoying experiences I've ever had to plod
through in an RPG. Totally out of place and quite tedious.
Astos
<sean.da...@oberlin.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:28:24 +1100, "Acey" <sp...@fakeaddy.com> wrote:
>
> >I was looking through all these lists for just one thing ... what happened
> >to Xenogears??? You all haven't played it or something?
>
> To be fair, the Wyvies really only refer to games released the
> previous year ('99... Xenogears was released in '98). As for the games
> of the decade / century list, well, I can't claim to speak for anyone
> else, but Xenogears would easily get my award for most overrated video
> game of the decade if not for Mortal Kombat. Uninspired, repetitive
> combat, hideous scripting, a rather dull main character, and text that
> crawls by at the speed of an invalid sloth. An RPG should not actively
> make me want to avoid townspeople and extras at all costs.
Ugh... I know what you're talking about in that last sentence. To be fair,
Xenogears had a REALLY COOL story, whose delivery was totally flawed (IMO).
> On the other hand, and not to be too negative, it had Elly, who,
> despite the game's multitude of flaws, is still probably the best
> female RPG lead to date.
<shrug> She didn't impress me.
Dan.
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Triforce..." - Zelda, ALTTP
"The power of the Brood is something to be respected and feared, but it
isn't enough to save or destroy the world..." - Peco, BoF3
"Hand me my lightsaber... it's the one that says, 'Bad Mother Fucker'." -
Samuel L. Jackson in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
Areku: now IBM compatible!
I've played it 5 times now, and I AM, NOT TIRED OF IT!!
Good taste, Acey.
Acey
Sean Daugherty <sean.da...@oberlin.edu> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 03:06:18 GMT, "Wyvern" <f...@ke-email.adress> wrote:
>
things!
> >
> >Games of the century
<massive snip>
I was looking through all these lists for just one thing ... what happened
to Xenogears??? You all haven't played it or something?
Best RPG ever in my opinion... I mean, you can't beat Fei. He's the man!!!
^_^
And nearly all of those 'Best something somethings" could have gone to
Xenogears. For eg.
BEST GAME MOMENT:
Xenogears. But too bad I can't say anything or it would spoil the plot.
BEST MALE LEAD:
Fei Fon Wong (Xenogears). Let's just say that he absolutely sh*ts on Squall
Lionheart...
BEST FEMALE LEAD
Elly (Xenogears). Besides, those little noises she makes when you do her
combos are so cute =P
BEST MALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
Citan (Xenogears). Especially when he gets his sword. Damn!
Best FEMALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
Emeralda (Xenogears). And there are two versions of her too ^_^
BEST NON PLAYABLE SUPPORTING CHARECTER:
Ummmm. It's been a while. Anyone else who played Xenogears wanna lend a
hand? ^_^
BEST VILLAIN
Id (Xenogears). Well, he counts doesn't he??? Also those elements who
combined their gears like transformers get honorable mentions too.
WORST VILLIAN:
Ramsus (Xenogears). I actually felt sorry for this guy. But Fei is too damn
good I admit.
BEST MINIGAME:
Stuff that annoying Triple Triad, it would have to be battle arena
(Xenogears). Steet Fighter-esque fun ^_^
BEST STORY:
Definitely XENOGEARS!!!
BEST BATTLE SYSTEM:
Xenogears combo system takes the cake. The Gear fighting was awesome too.
BEST PLOT TWIST:
Pick and choose from (you guessed it), Xenogears. But since I'm such a nice
guy, I'm not even going to print spoilers at all just so you won't get
tempted.
And now we come to *drum roll* BEST GAME EVER .... which goes to .... Last
Action Hero on SNES!!! Nah, just kidding. If you don't know by now what game
I'd pick, you mustn't have been reading...
(Just another of Xenogear's insane fans)
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>
> Sean Daugherty <sean.da...@oberlin.edu> wrote in message
> news:2u698ssf1o7ojqlgp...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 03:06:18 GMT, "Wyvern" <f...@ke-email.adress> wrote:
> >
> > >Look everyone! This year has THREE zeros in it! Let's make lists of
> things!
> > >
> > >Games of the century
>
> <massive snip>
>
> I was looking through all these lists for just one thing ... what happened
> to Xenogears??? You all haven't played it or something?
I played it through a couple times. Here are my takes.
> Best RPG ever in my opinion... I mean, you can't beat Fei. He's the man!!!
> ^_^
>
> And nearly all of those 'Best something somethings" could have gone to
> Xenogears. For eg.
>
> BEST GAME MOMENT:
>
> Xenogears. But too bad I can't say anything or it would spoil the plot.
Alright. There are a couple good ones, but nothing fantastic.
> BEST MALE LEAD:
>
> Fei Fon Wong (Xenogears). Let's just say that he absolutely sh*ts on
Squall
> Lionheart...
Why? "Best" doesn't mean "who is the coolest" Squall was waaay more
developped than Fei. Fei seemed to me a kind of flat character...
> BEST FEMALE LEAD
>
> Elly (Xenogears). Besides, those little noises she makes when you do her
> combos are so cute =P
She was a good character, but basing that on "cute noises" takes a little
away from your credibility... I do think Elly was better than Rinoa, but
nowhere close to Luna.
> BEST MALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
>
> Citan (Xenogears). Especially when he gets his sword. Damn!
Yes, Citan was a good character. Laguna is the only other I can think of
that would be better.
> Best FEMALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
>
> Emeralda (Xenogears). And there are two versions of her too ^_^
Woooo, two versions. :P I don't even think she *did* anything.
> BEST NON PLAYABLE SUPPORTING CHARECTER:
>
> Ummmm. It's been a while. Anyone else who played Xenogears wanna lend a
> hand? ^_^
Wiseman was cool, but again, not a good enough *character* to make the cut.
> BEST VILLAIN
>
> Id (Xenogears). Well, he counts doesn't he??? Also those elements who
> combined their gears like transformers get honorable mentions too.
>
> WORST VILLIAN:
>
> Ramsus (Xenogears). I actually felt sorry for this guy. But Fei is too
damn
> good I admit.
Ramsus was actually a really good villain. Well developped, good character.
> BEST MINIGAME:
>
> Stuff that annoying Triple Triad, it would have to be battle arena
> (Xenogears). Steet Fighter-esque fun ^_^
Triple Triad was involving. When I started to play, I didn't seem to be
able to stop for a while :) The fighting mini-game... I played it when I
had to, went back one more time because I could, then avoided it afterwards
when it became more boring than the storytelling on disc 2.
> BEST STORY:
>
> Definitely XENOGEARS!!!
Very very good story. Not as good as Final Fantasy Tactics (which I don't
think is a part of this, being too old), but good.
> BEST BATTLE SYSTEM:
>
> Xenogears combo system takes the cake. The Gear fighting was awesome too.
The Xenogears combo system only takes the cake is the cake is made out of
shit. The combo system offered the illusion of having options in battle,
when really all you did was store up, big combo. Gears was the same. Weak
attack, big combo. Magic and special abilities were useless. I don't think
I ever used the Jesse Canon, just because it was worse than a simple combo
move.
> BEST PLOT TWIST:
>
> Pick and choose from (you guessed it), Xenogears. But since I'm such a
nice
> guy, I'm not even going to print spoilers at all just so you won't get
> tempted.
>
> And now we come to *drum roll* BEST GAME EVER .... which goes to .... Last
> Action Hero on SNES!!! Nah, just kidding. If you don't know by now what
game
> I'd pick, you mustn't have been reading...
>
> (Just another of Xenogear's insane fans)
Oh, an insane Xenogears fan. What did I bother replying to this for then, I
thought you were a real person! :)
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Neal Evan Wilson #i wrote in message <38848218$0$31...@news.execpc.com>...
>In article <KMQg4.904$Wn2....@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
>"Wyvern" <f...@ke-email.adress> wrote:
>
>÷Look everyone! This year has THREE zeros in it! Let's make lists of
things!
>÷While I'm at it, let's just do the second annual Wyvern awards now.
>÷
>Bah, when do we get another round of the Wyvies? (These can't be them
>because the categories are different)
>
>Neal Evan Wilson
When I.......FEEL LIKE IT! THAT'S RIGHT! You know not the day nor the hour!
Oh, the power I weild over you.
.............just play along, I need an ego boost.
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Wyvern
Sean Daugherty wrote in message
<2u698ssf1o7ojqlgp...@4ax.com>...
>On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 03:06:18 GMT, "Wyvern" <f...@ke-email.adress> wrote:
>
>>Look everyone! This year has THREE zeros in it! Let's make lists of
things!
>>
>
>Assuming video games only....
>
>5. The Legend of Zelda
> Although it may not be an RPG in the strict sense of the word,
>for many gamers it was the first game that involved more than hopping
>on turtles. Still remarkable in its depth.
>4. Space Wars
> Never heard of it? Doesn't surprise me. But it was the first
>video game ever, and for that alone, it deserves mention.
Actually, it was called Computer Space, later renamed Space War (not plural)
however......
>3. Pong
> The first home video game, and to this day the only video game
>my father will play <shrugs>
There's some debate over wich came first, actually. A primative home versian
of Pong came along quite awhile before it was relased to arcades (just think
about that for a second......a primative versian of pong. It's like primal
ooze or something.) See last month's EGM where the interview the inventor of
video games (NOT Nolan Bushnell)
>2. Pac-Man
> Video gaming's first superstar. Despite some half-hearted
>attempts to revive the franchise in the 90's, the original is still
>the one everyone remembers.
>1. Super Mario Bros.
> Surpassing Pac-Man is renown and longevity, the brothers Mario
>became arguably the first cultural icon to arrive out of video games.
>Even fifteen years later, the name "Mario" is still synonimous in most
>people's minds to "video games".
Methinks he coulden't have gotten there first without that yellow dot thing.
Plus, Paccy is still better known than Mario; (debatable) more
people-on-the-street seem to recognize him.....like Mickey Mouse,he is a
very distnct and unmistakeable charecter,whereas Mario, while also distinct,
is probably less recognizeable, especially with Luigi confusing everyone.
Mario's games are certianly more popular than Pac-man's but 1)Pac-man
himself is still a bigger star than the plumber, who now has to share his
near-icon status with Sonic, and to some extent, Pikachu......Pac-man is one
rung higher, a full-fledged gaming icon. and 2) Mario keeps making sequels
to stay popular. Pac-man doesen't need to. His one game is good enough that
people still play it and still love him for it. Of course, the same can be
said of Mario, but he probably woulden't be what he is today without his
sequels. All Pac-man needed was one game. (yes, Paccy had sequels too, but
except for Ms.Pac-man, none have even come remotly close to touching the
original in terms of popularity and replayability.) Pac-man is in many ways
the perfect video game,though a case can be made for Tetris.
>
>>Games of the decade:
>
>5. Final Fantasy VII
> The game that made role playing games cool. While I may not
>enjoy it as much as its sequel, it deserves mention for what it did
>for the market alone.
>4. Street Fighter II
> Almost ten years later, with innumerable sequels/clones under
>its belt, it almost single-handedly created a genre.
>3. Metal Gear Solid
> One of the first significant gaming fads that didn't
>automatically conjure up images of spotty preteen boys. An intelligent
>and engrossing experience.
>2. Tomb Raider
> Here's the pitch: an intelligent, involving modernization of
>the old Pitfall concept, but with a main character who is sure to
>appeal to the market gaming needs least: sad, forty year-old single
>men. A+ on execution, C- on marketing.
This piece of crap? Please. Lara is just another mascot......the only
difference being Sonic and Mario don't have tits. TR sucks anyway......the
concept has alot of potential (Soul Reaver) but as it is, it's just boring
wandering around wondering why the hell you're playing this. TR 4 is
remarkably similar to TR 1........while they tweaked the gameplay a bit,
it's really more like the Megaman games......change the levels,add one or
two minor improvements and blammo! A sequel! Lara is ALLl marketing.
>1. Pokemon
> Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Pokemon, by any means. But
>there are so many other games I wanted to put here: Castlevania:
>Symphony of the Night, Lunar, Final Fantasy Tactics, Harvest Moon,
>etc. But, when it comes down to it, Pokemon is inescapable. Its the
>Godzilla of marketing fads. Even if I regard the games with marginal
>interest, I have to admire the hype around it... or fear it, take your
>pick.
Harvest Moon? Okay, if you say so. Still, Pokemon's impact on the gaming
world cannot be underestimated. Five years from now, all those little kids
who grew up with this craze will still be playing RPG's. If even half of
them keep playing them, in fact, they'll quickly be the biggest genre out
there. That woulden't suck too much.
>Dishonorable mention goes to Mortal Kombat, for proving you don't need
>quality standards to make fad,
Thank you. I remember the debates in the magazines when MK first came out
over wheather it was better than Street Fighter. Guess we know now. I seemed
to be the only person at the time to notice that all the fighters in MK were
identical except for thier specials, while SF2 actually had 8 (well,
seven,really, Ken and Ryu were identical) totally different fighters.
and Night Trap, for opening a Pandora's
>box of puritanical censorship concerns on the entire gaming industry,
>while simeltaneously being a ridiculously bad game.
"Wow. No rape scenes or women on meat hooks. Maybe congress has a beta
versian of this game."-EGM, sometime in the early 90's.
>>Games of the year (1999)
>
>5. Star Ocean: The Second Story
> OK, so it had some serious flaws, from atrocious voice acting,
>a nonexistant storyline, and some overcomplicated menu commands, but
>it deserves note for its sheer inventiveness alone.
Inventivness? Like the 80 different endings thing? That would rule if you
didnt have to endure the awful game to get to the endings. It's like
enduring the chinese water torture over and over because they give a
different flavor jellybean after every session. And sometimes they throw in
an M&M or a pretzel. Mmmmmmm....torture pretzels.
>4. Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
> For setting a new standard in "collector's edition" packaging
>and just generally being an exciting and involving game.
>3. Silent Hill
> Bad voice acting aside, the scariest, most atmospheric video
>game I've ever played, and probably the best non-RPG I've played in
>years.
Never played it. I find the most horrfying part of survival horror how
incredibly unscary and boring it is. The dogs bursting through the windows
in RE1 kinda sorta almost scared me the first time. It was downhill from
there.
>2. Final Fantasy VIII
> A complex and engrossing game engine, beautiful graphics...
>not so great story, but otherwise a memorable experience.
>1. Grandia
> A fun little excursion, perhaps a tad lightweight, but
>enjoyable all the way through.
I'm sure I would have put this somewhere but I never got to play it. It was
either Grandia or Thousand Arms, and after FFVIII I fancied something with a
good translation. I actually played through 8 of RPG's this year (and played
several others without beating them) , but two don't count because they
didn't come out this year (FFVI and FFVII) even though I was playing VII for
the first time. I counted FFV as coming out this year since it's never been
brought out in this country before.
>>BEST GAME MOMENT:
>
>Opening (Silent Hill)
>
>runner-up: The Boat Song (Lunar: SSSC)
>
>>BEST MALE LEAD
>
>Justin (Grandia)
>
>runner-up: Harry Mason (Silent Hill)
From what little I gathered of Justin in the Grandia demo.he seems like a
mentally deficent versian of Lunar's Alex. But I'm not going to rush
judgement until I actually play the game.
>>BEST FEMALE LEAD
>
>Luna (Lunar)
>
>runner-up: Regina (Dino Crisis)
>
>>BEST MALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
>
>Irvine Kinneas (FF8)
>
>runner-up: Laguna Loire (FF8)
For my money Laguna was FFVIII's second male lead. (it sure as hell waen't
Seifer, now was it?) Irvine is okay, but his charterization is
inconsistant;he is scared to shoot Edea at the end of disc one, but his
insecurities never come up in the story again, and he has no problem with
shooting countless monsters, or even evil sorceress who are about to destroy
the universe.
>>Best FEMALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
>
>Quistis Trepe (FF8)
>
>runner-up: Feena (Grandia)
>
>>BEST NON PLAYABLE SUPPORTING CHARECTER:
>
>Lilly (Grandia)
>
>runner-up: Ellone (FF8)
>
>>BEST VOICE-OVER
>
>Honestly, I'm drawing a blank on this one <shrugs>
>
>>BEST VILLAIN
>
>Magic Emperor Ghaleon (Lunar: SSSC)
>
>>WORST VILLIAN:
>
>Tie: Ultimecia (FF8) / Indalecio (SO2)
>
>>BEST MINIGAME
>
>Triple Triad, hands down.
>
>>BEST STORY
>
>Silent Hill
>
>runner-up: Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
>
>>MOST OVERRATED:
>
>Probably Star Ocean: The Second Story, although I still enjoyed it.
>
>>BEST BATTLE SYSTEM:
>
>Final Fantasy VIII
>
>runner-up: Grandia
>
>>(SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>BEST PLOT TWIST (FFVIII spoilers)
>
>I'm gonna have to agree and say the Edea/Ultimecia power trade-off.
>Either that, or the entire plot of Silent Hill.
*buzzer sound* I'm sorry, but a plot twist is a specific moment within a
plot, not a plot itself. Oh,well, guess I should play Silent Hill now....
-Wyvern
J Ford
<sean.da...@oberlin.edu> wrote:
>1. Pokemon
> Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Pokemon, by any means. But
>there are so many other games I wanted to put here: Castlevania:
>Symphony of the Night, Lunar, Final Fantasy Tactics, Harvest Moon,
>etc. But, when it comes down to it, Pokemon is inescapable. Its the
>Godzilla of marketing fads. Even if I regard the games with marginal
>interest, I have to admire the hype around it... or fear it, take your
>pick.
!?
Is this your real opinion? So much for personal ideals of quality
being supreme, then.
Charlie
<daito...@worldnet.att.net> spake:
>Fear us Xenogear's fans........
>
>I've played it 5 times now, and I AM, NOT TIRED OF IT!!
>
Me too!
>Good taste, Acey.
>
>
Charles M.
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Sean Daugherty
>>>BEST PLOT TWIST (FFVIII spoilers)
>>
>>I'm gonna have to agree and say the Edea/Ultimecia power trade-off.
>>Either that, or the entire plot of Silent Hill.
>
>*buzzer sound* I'm sorry, but a plot twist is a specific moment within a
>plot, not a plot itself. Oh,well, guess I should play Silent Hill now....
Yeah, I know. And I still say Silent Hill for sheer vertigo inducing
plot twists.
Sean Daugherty
<saint...@super.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>1. Pokemon
>> Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Pokemon, by any means. But
>>there are so many other games I wanted to put here: Castlevania:
>>Symphony of the Night, Lunar, Final Fantasy Tactics, Harvest Moon,
>>etc. But, when it comes down to it, Pokemon is inescapable. Its the
>>Godzilla of marketing fads. Even if I regard the games with marginal
>>interest, I have to admire the hype around it... or fear it, take your
>>pick.
>
>!?
>
>Is this your real opinion? So much for personal ideals of quality
>being supreme, then.
Yep. My real opinion is that Pokemon has had a profound impact on the
gaming industry, and the public's perception thereof. I may not be
enamored with the game, but enough people are to make it important.
I take a Time Magazine approach to these "so-and-so of the year"
things: I don't have to like something to rank it highly, I just need
to recognize it as having had a significant impact. Thus, a game
consisting solely of a close-up of Wayne Knight's bellybutton would
have gotten mention if it had had anywhere near the impact on the
public as Pokemon had.
If you wanna debate the gameplay or whatnot of the Pokemon behemoth,
that's a whole 'nother topic entirely. My opinions on quality are
seperate from my opinions on impact.
Wyvern
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>While wandering around in a drunken stupor, Wyvern, f...@ke-email.adress
>babbled...
things!
>>
>> Games of the century
>
>OK.
>
>> 4.DragonQuest/Dragon Warrior
>
>Eh, I don't know, I think someone would have come up with the idea
>eventually.
>
>> 2.Pong
>>
>> Duh
>
>Booorriiinggg...
>
>> honorable mentions: Final Fantasy, (for building on DQ's forumla with
>> parties, a story, and overall perfecting the RPG into what it is today)
>> Street Fighter II: The World Warrior,(the first modern fighting game) The
>> Legend of Zelda,(one of those games people will be stuck in fifty years
>> after we're all dead) Dragon's Lair (the first game with FMV....even if
>> that's all it was) Pokemon (for bringing RPG's intot he mainstream and
>> achiveing levels of popularity not seen since....well, since Pac-man.)
and
>> this game I played at Chuck E. Cheese when I was five wich had this
little
>> bear dressed as a wizard (because it has a little bear dressed as a
wizard.
>> And he hops!)
>
>Why isn't Contra on this List? Or Starcraft? Or Doom? I mean Doom
>practically created FPS games, and Starcraft is the best war sim ever. And
>Contra, well it's just cool.
Actually, Wolfenstien 3D created FPS games, Doom just perfected them (like
Dragonquest and FF1) I forgot to mention them because I don't really like
FPS games that much, although I am enjoying Medal of Honor....... Starcraft
is not a console game so it doesen't count. I don't have the hardware to
play computer games or the patience to keep updating my machine to play the
latest fad. Fuck it. That's why consoles have network play now. To render
such things needless. For my money, the best stradegy game ever is the
Saturn epic, Dragonforce. You should all buy Saturns just to play Working
Desgins best game (you heard me) ever. Hell, the whole package will probably
run you under fifty bucks....I bought them both when they were new.
>> 4.Super Mario Bros. 3
>>
>> The best platformer ever made and the best selling game ever,too.
>
>Damn right.
I remember playing Super Mario World and thinking "twice the processing
power and they still counlden't top the last one. Ah,well." And then I threw
robots on Bowser's head will he flew around in his gay flying gay clown
helicopter,wich he apprently though would intimadate me. And he was right. I
threw a brick through the TV the first time I saw that thing. Clowns are
scary. Also, it made it clear that Bowser is gay. I mean, where's the
Koopalings mom anyway? The answer? Thier mom's name is Bruce.
>> 3.Street Figher II
>>
>> How good is this game? They remade it 47 times and people still bought
it.
>> How influencial is this game? Go count it's clones.
>
>Only the original and Super Street fighter 2 were any good. That Turbo
crap
>sucks.
Alpha kicks ass. Street Fighter 3 looks absolutly phenomanal, but plays
so-so (and it's so slow)
Incidentally, SF3 is a classic case of waiting too damn long. Had it come
out a year or two after SF2 it would have been the biggest most sucsessful
game ever. Instead, we got four new versians of SF2, then the Alpha games,
then X-men Vs. Street Fighter wich spun off into it's own series (wich
rules, though it's no place for technique) then Darkstalkers, then FINALLY
SF3, by wich time people had two attitudes towards it....either they didn't
give a fuck anymore, or they expected that after all this time, it would be
the greatest,most revalutinary fighter ever. Unfortunatly, it just barrowed
it's new features from the Alpha games (wich are better anyway....Alpha 3 is
the best 2D fighter ever made) and limited you to one Super Art for the
entire game, the new charecters were mostly rejects,and there was only one
boss, who was one of the stupidest charecter desgins ever. Had it debuted
with all these features in place of Super Street Fighter, Capcom would still
be making money off it and the critics would have hailed it as the second
coming. Instead,what could have been the biggest game of all time is just
another fighter, wich people only played cause of it's name. For shame.
BTW, Felicia and Lilith from Darkstalkers are godesses. Ladies, if somehow
you ever become real, I'll be your sex slave. Really. Leareth is okay with
this. Not that I've asked, but I'm going to hope she is.
>> 2.Metal Gear Solid
>> The game that strove to tell a shocked nation that a nuclear war would be
>> bad.
>
>I think that's it's one flaw, the gamem seems to be a bit preachy.
You want preachy? Try contacting Naomi while smoking a cigarette. She tears
into you like she's the surgeon general. It's damn funny.
>> Games of the year (1999)
>> 5.Lunar:Silver Star Story
>> The only RPG I played this year where I never found myself running from
>> enemies out of sheer boredom at fighting them.
>
>Heh. and it had some fun characters. It was a nice change from FF7's "We
>are all troubled and depressing" characters.
Yes, in Lunar, only Nash was troubled, and Mia was depressed, but only cause
she got stuck with Nash. I mean, he is so fucking worthless,especially
considering the shit he pulls right before you go to the Frontier. After
that little fiasco, you wonder why you didn't just kill him when you had the
chance. He is a complete load near the end of the game, good only for
holding items you might need during the final boss battles. And if I hear
"Check this out!" one more time.......
>> 3.Thousand Arms
>> Dating, my ass! I'm playing this game for lines like "My mom keeps
talking
>> about 'biagra' " and "Why doesen't my line have a voiceover? What? I'm
just
>> an extra? This sucks!"
>
>I really need to get this gam before TRU sells it's last copy and I will
>never find it again.
>
>> 2.Metal Gear Solid:VR Missions
>> Q:Define "fun"
>> A:Shooting at wave after wave of helpless guards with your surface-to-air
>> missles, and seeing how many you can kill in one minute.
>> I understand there's some other stuff you can do in this game,too.
>
>Bah, the VR part of MGS wasn't all that fun and I can't imagin paying 50
>bucks for something that is solely that.
Well, it's alot of variations on the different tasks you to in MGS........I
dunno, I thought it ruled, even with no story whatsoever.
>> 1.Ape Escape
>> Yeah,right. Anyway, it's.....
>
>Do you mock he apes?
YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
>> BEST GAME MOMENT:
>> Luna's Boat Song
>
>To think they were going to drop that too for time restraints.
>
>> BEST MALE LEAD
>>
>> Ape Escape....uh, I mean, Squall Leonhart (FFVIII)
>
>FF8 fan-boy....
Oh,nyah. I found myself identifying with Squall better than any RPG
charecter I'd yet seen. He's not insane like Cloud, he's just introverted
duh to a painful past. His plight is totally beliveable, and he seems more
human due to his imperfections and the way he overcomes them. As for the
other RPG heroesAlex was like "I'm a young lad who dreams of adventure! And
I like this girl!" Meis was like "Let's save the world, but only cause it'll
get me more chicks" and Raziel was all "I'm a young vampire who dreams of
shoving sharp,smoldering irons through my dad's organs while he bleeds to
death. But only cause it'll get me more damned souls." Like,you
know,whatever.
>> BEST FEMALE LEAD
>> Luna (Lunar)
>
>Damn right.
>
>> BEST NON PLAYABLE SUPPORTING CHARECTER:
>>
>> NALL (Lunar)
>
>He's a bit annoying sometimes though. And it's a cat I say!
>
>> BEST VILLAIN
>> GHALEON (Lunar)
>
>I don't know, So far I have wanted to kill most of MGS's enemies, I don't
>have much hate for Ghaleon though. I suppose had I played Lunar within the
>last few weeks I may feel different.
Ghaleon was cool cause, again, he was a flawed human being (well,a flawed
elf anyway) who was never truly evil, he just was a bit of an elitiest who
belived that the common man needs a ruler to look to for guidanc,whereas
Alex and co were more like Marxists, who wanted to put production in the
hands of the workers (so to speak) and create a world where everybody had
value because they had to take care of themselves.
meanwhile, Ultimecia was all like "I'm evil and I'm gonna compress time and
that's all you'll ever know about me!" and Kain was all like "Me and my deep
voice want to continue our little orgy of self-destruction for no good
reason. Also, I'm really petty so I'm gonna kill you cause your penis is
bigger than mine." (that's what that whole "wings" thing was really about,
you know. It's all male posturing! That's why Raziel carries those phallic
spears as weapons!)
>> runnerup:TEAM ROCKET (Pokemon Yellow)
>
>BWA HA HA HA!
>
>--
>Ramen Junkie
Oh, come on, Jessie James, Meowth,that's right! What's not to like? They're
bad, but they're more harmless loveable rouges than true villains. Sure,
they want to conquer the world, but they seem to be dedicated to the idea
that they can do it without killing or even seriously injuring anyone. Of
course, thier boss Giovanni is a bit less altruistic, but despite the way
they pride themselves on being so bad, they're really not unless they
absoutly have to be. Usually, they're just funny and a bit pitiful.
Especially in the game, where they always throw the same three weak-ass
Pokemon at you.
-Wyvern
J Ford
<sean.da...@oberlin.edu> wrote:
>On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:31:44 -0500, J Ford
><saint...@super.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>1. Pokemon
>>> Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Pokemon, by any means. But
>>>there are so many other games I wanted to put here: Castlevania:
>>>Symphony of the Night, Lunar, Final Fantasy Tactics, Harvest Moon,
>>>etc. But, when it comes down to it, Pokemon is inescapable. Its the
>>>Godzilla of marketing fads. Even if I regard the games with marginal
>>>interest, I have to admire the hype around it... or fear it, take your
>>>pick.
>>
>>!?
>>
>>Is this your real opinion? So much for personal ideals of quality
>>being supreme, then.
>
>Yep. My real opinion is that Pokemon has had a profound impact on the
>gaming industry, and the public's perception thereof. I may not be
>enamored with the game, but enough people are to make it important.
>
>I take a Time Magazine approach to these "so-and-so of the year"
>things:
OK. I thought by "Game of the Decade" you meant, "Best Game of the
Decade," not "Most Influential Game of the Decade."
I still don't think I'd give the influential award to Pokemon.
Probably the original Super Mario Brothers. That little plumber
revitalized the home gaming industry, was enjoyable to adults and
kids, and generally didn't suffer from the restricted age group and
backlash fever which are symptomatic of fads.
In short, Mario will be hoppin' when Pikachu zaps his last gasp.
Of course, I could be wrong.
crisis?
>
> Look everyone! This year has THREE zeros in it! Let's make lists of things!
>
> Games of the century
what the hell, why not.
all of mine were made in this decade. shut up about it.
these should all be self-explanatory, so i won't bother to go into
details about them.
5. Civilization II
4. Quake (series)
3. Xenogears
2. Tekken (series)
1. Star Control II
> Games of the year (1999)
i didn't play that much this year, really. dunno why.
2. Final Fantasy VIII
1. Gran Turismo 2
i can't think of five. it's 1:30 am and i'm having a nervous
breakdown. screw you if you don't like it.
> BEST GAME MOMENT:
Star Control II, when you find the former Androsynth homeworld. It
still scares the living shit out of me every time I read that report,
and I've played through the game at least four times now.
Runner-up: you-know-what from FF7.
> BEST MALE LEAD
tough one. very tough. I'd have to go with Squall, I guess.
runner up, Fei. I just had a hard time getting in his head, but
aside from that he's great.
> BEST FEMALE LEAD
Terra. no question whatsoever.
runner up: uh. tough one, actually.
wait a minute, these things are for best ever, right? oh, who
gives a shit. i don't honestly care.
anyway, runner up is aeris, because she came to mind first.
> BEST MALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
citan. nobody else even comes close.
oh, wait, scratch that. locke comes close, so he's runner up.
but that's it. nobody else is even in the ballpark. citan
and locke look down upon other filth that would dare to call
themselves supporting charachters. shoo! shoo! you are making
them look bad with your filthy prescence!
> Best FEMALE SUPPORTING CHARECTER (playable)
celes.
no runner-up because i don't feel like assigning one.
> BEST NON PLAYABLE SUPPORTING CHARECTER:
hammer.
yeah, you heard me, punk. i said hammer. and i'm sticking by it.
do you have a *problem* with that, bitch?
oh, and general leo is the runner-up.
> BEST VOICE-OVER
starcraft.
runner up: sam and max.
> BEST VILLAIN
the ur-quan. (star control II, in case you didn't know, and you
probably didn't.)
runner-up: the ur-quan.
for that matter, i also designate third place to the ur-quan, fourth
place to the ur-quan, and fifth through nine hundredth place to the
ur-quan.
god, those things were *awesome*. why can't we have more villians
like them instead of these damn insane rodeo clowns and trees and
crap? Is the entire concept of -empathizing- with the villain
completely out the window in this day and age? I mean, hell, not even
Xenogears could pull off a villain near as good as them, and it was
pretty much perfect in almost every other plot aspect. Sephiroth
*almost* had the empathy thing down pat, but he was also a fucking
nutcase, so that pretty much shot down any chance I had of empathizing
with him.
oh well.
> WORST VILLIAN:
ultimecia. no question.
runner-up: exdeath.
> BEST MINIGAME
the snowboarding thing from ff7.
> BEST STORY
Xenogears.
runner-up: star control II
> MOST OVERRATED:
Tomb Raider.
runner-up: can't think of one. ask me later.
> BEST BATTLE SYSTEM:
I assume you mean for an rpg or strategy game. It is for this reason
alone that I do not choose to be a smartass and answer with "Tekken 3"
or "Half-Life".
anyways, i give it to fallout. runner-up: chrono trigger.
> (SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT)
>
> BEST PLOT TWIST
discovering just what in the hell was wrong with the ur-quan. it's
doubly effective because you spend pretty much all of the game up
until that point just absolutely hating the bastards...and then it
all becomes clear. VERY clear.
> STUPIDEST PLOT TWIST
FFVIII orphanage thing. BOY was that a stupid plot twist.
--
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"No! No you boys don't! Not that godawful game!"
It's your sister Paula.
"I've seen way too many people get hurt playing leapfrog. And
Bradford, here you are playing against little Milton. What kind of role
model are you? Where's your protective gear? You boys play much too
rough. It's a bad, bad game, and I won't have you playing it in Poppy's
backyard. Why can't you guys just play football or wrestle like other
boys?"
"You don't *understand* leapfrog, Paula," you tell her. "You *never*
will."
"Look, Brad, what I understand is that my cousin Ernie was in the
hospital for a month with a concussion after a leapfrog game, and he
still can't speak right. Damn sport should be out-lawed."
-BRAD: The Game
http://www.bradthegame.com
Neal Evan Wilson #i
"Wyvern" <f...@ke-email.adress> wrote:
÷Neal Evan Wilson #i wrote in message <38848218$0$31...@news.execpc.com>...
÷>In article <KMQg4.904$Wn2....@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
÷>"Wyvern" <f...@ke-email.adress> wrote:
÷>
÷>÷Look everyone! This year has THREE zeros in it! Let's make lists of
÷things!
÷>÷
÷>÷While I'm at it, let's just do the second annual Wyvern awards now.
÷>÷
÷>Bah, when do we get another round of the Wyvies? (These can't be them
÷>because the categories are different)
÷>
÷>Neal Evan Wilson
÷
÷When I.......FEEL LIKE IT! THAT'S RIGHT! You know not the day nor the hour!
÷Oh, the power I weild over you.
÷
÷.............just play along, I need an ego boost.
÷
Umm... Okay...
Hail the Terrible Great (well... umm... nevermind...)
Mike Robinson
>The Xenogears combo system only takes the cake is the cake is made out of
>shit. The combo system offered the illusion of having options in battle,
>when really all you did was store up, big combo. Gears was the same. Weak
>attack, big combo. Magic and special abilities were useless. I don't think
>I ever used the Jesse Canon, just because it was worse than a simple combo
>move.
Everything except magic was useless, especially as it is much easier to
use a cheap omegasol after battles than find fuel. I had Emeralda doing
9999 damage to Deus with her weakest magic.
--
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Sean Daugherty
<saint...@super.hotmail.com> wrote:
>OK. I thought by "Game of the Decade" you meant, "Best Game of the
>Decade," not "Most Influential Game of the Decade."
Heavens, no. Final Fantasy Tactics isn't anywhere on the list <G>
>I still don't think I'd give the influential award to Pokemon.
>Probably the original Super Mario Brothers. That little plumber
>revitalized the home gaming industry, was enjoyable to adults and
>kids, and generally didn't suffer from the restricted age group and
>backlash fever which are symptomatic of fads.
<cough> I would've, except that Mario pounced his first 'shroom in the
eighties, and Pokemon weighed in as most influential of the 90s. In
fact, I did list Super Mario Brothers as the game of the century....
>In short, Mario will be hoppin' when Pikachu zaps his last gasp.
Very likely, yes.
>Of course, I could be wrong.
I certainly hope not.
Chef Ramen Junkie
babbled...
> >practically created FPS games, and Starcraft is the best war sim ever. And
> >Contra, well it's just cool.
>
>
> Actually, Wolfenstien 3D created FPS games, Doom just perfected them (like
> Dragonquest and FF1) I forgot to mention them because I don't really like
> FPS games that much, although I am enjoying Medal of Honor....... Starcraft
> is not a console game so it doesen't count. I don't have the hardware to
> play computer games or the patience to keep updating my machine to play the
> latest fad. Fuck it. That's why consoles have network play now. To render
> such things needless. For my money, the best stradegy game ever is the
> Saturn epic, Dragonforce. You should all buy Saturns just to play Working
> Desgins best game (you heard me) ever. Hell, the whole package will probably
> run you under fifty bucks....I bought them both when they were new.
Oh right, I forgot all about Wolfenstein. I used to play that all the time
too. Me and my buddies would see who could beat the Machine Gunner guy at
the end with only the machine gun, then the pistol, and even the knife.
> >> 4.Super Mario Bros. 3
> >>
> >> The best platformer ever made and the best selling game ever,too.
> >
> >Damn right.
>
>
> I remember playing Super Mario World and thinking "twice the processing
> power and they still counlden't top the last one. Ah,well." And then I threw
> robots on Bowser's head will he flew around in his gay flying gay clown
> helicopter,wich he apprently though would intimadate me. And he was right. I
> threw a brick through the TV the first time I saw that thing. Clowns are
> scary. Also, it made it clear that Bowser is gay. I mean, where's the
> Koopalings mom anyway? The answer? Thier mom's name is Bruce.
Yeah, I think it was the whole dinosaur theme in Mario World, and that it
didn't have 50 different power ups like Mario 3 did. Heck, even if the
Tanuki suit and the Raccoon suit were essentialy identical, it was still
better to have both.
> >Only the original and Super Street fighter 2 were any good. That Turbo
> crap
> >sucks.
>
>
> Alpha kicks ass. Street Fighter 3 looks absolutly phenomanal, but plays
> so-so (and it's so slow)
I have been thinking of getting alpha for my PSX. Any suggestions on which
of the series is the best?
> Incidentally, SF3 is a classic case of waiting too damn long. Had it come
> out a year or two after SF2 it would have been the biggest most sucsessful
> game ever. Instead, we got four new versians of SF2, then the Alpha games,
> then X-men Vs. Street Fighter wich spun off into it's own series (wich
> rules, though it's no place for technique) then Darkstalkers, then FINALLY
> SF3, by wich time people had two attitudes towards it....either they didn't
> give a fuck anymore, or they expected that after all this time, it would be
> the greatest,most revalutinary fighter ever.
Capcom still makes some kick ass Fighter games.
> BTW, Felicia and Lilith from Darkstalkers are godesses. Ladies, if somehow
> you ever become real, I'll be your sex slave. Really. Leareth is okay with
> this. Not that I've asked, but I'm going to hope she is.
Heh.
> >> 2.Metal Gear Solid
> >> The game that strove to tell a shocked nation that a nuclear war would be
> >> bad.
> >
> >I think that's it's one flaw, the gamem seems to be a bit preachy.
>
>
> You want preachy? Try contacting Naomi while smoking a cigarette. She tears
> into you like she's the surgeon general. It's damn funny.
I tried that once I think with Mei Ling, I don't think she does anything.
> >Heh. and it had some fun characters. It was a nice change from FF7's "We
> >are all troubled and depressing" characters.
>
> Yes, in Lunar, only Nash was troubled, and Mia was depressed, but only cause
> she got stuck with Nash. I mean, he is so fucking worthless,especially
> considering the shit he pulls right before you go to the Frontier. After
> that little fiasco, you wonder why you didn't just kill him when you had the
> chance. He is a complete load near the end of the game, good only for
> holding items you might need during the final boss battles. And if I hear
> "Check this out!" one more time.......
:Tries to skim the paragraph and is glad it sounds a bit confusing since he
has not beaten Lunar yet.::
> >Bah, the VR part of MGS wasn't all that fun and I can't imagin paying 50
> >bucks for something that is solely that.
>
> Well, it's alot of variations on the different tasks you to in MGS........I
> dunno, I thought it ruled, even with no story whatsoever.
I don't know, I think I would rather just replay the regular version.
> >> 1.Ape Escape
> >> Yeah,right. Anyway, it's.....
> >
> >Do you mock he apes?
>
> YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
Oh My. Repressed rage?
> >FF8 fan-boy....
>
> Oh,nyah. I found myself identifying with Squall better than any RPG
> charecter I'd yet seen. He's not insane like Cloud, he's just introverted
> duh to a painful past. His plight is totally beliveable, and he seems more
> human due to his imperfections and the way he overcomes them. As for the
> other RPG heroesAlex was like "I'm a young lad who dreams of adventure! And
> I like this girl!" Meis was like "Let's save the world, but only cause it'll
> get me more chicks" and Raziel was all "I'm a young vampire who dreams of
> shoving sharp,smoldering irons through my dad's organs while he bleeds to
> death. But only cause it'll get me more damned souls." Like,you
> know,whatever.
Uh.. I just sort of put that in because most of your choices revolve around
FF8.
> >> runnerup:TEAM ROCKET (Pokemon Yellow)
> >
> >BWA HA HA HA!
>
> Oh, come on, Jessie James, Meowth,that's right! What's not to like? They're
> bad, but they're more harmless loveable rouges than true villains. Sure,
> they want to conquer the world, but they seem to be dedicated to the idea
> that they can do it without killing or even seriously injuring anyone. Of
> course, thier boss Giovanni is a bit less altruistic, but despite the way
> they pride themselves on being so bad, they're really not unless they
> absoutly have to be. Usually, they're just funny and a bit pitiful.
> Especially in the game, where they always throw the same three weak-ass
> Pokemon at you.
Yeah, That's what makes them so great.
J Ford
<sean.da...@oberlin.edu> wrote:
>>I still don't think I'd give the influential award to Pokemon.
>>Probably the original Super Mario Brothers. That little plumber
>>revitalized the home gaming industry, was enjoyable to adults and
>>kids, and generally didn't suffer from the restricted age group and
>>backlash fever which are symptomatic of fads.
>
><cough> I would've, except that Mario pounced his first 'shroom in the
>eighties, and Pokemon weighed in as most influential of the 90s. In
>fact, I did list Super Mario Brothers as the game of the century....
Oh yeah... duh. I would say Doom but all the FPS's put together don't
approach the mammoth that is Pikachu. C'mon, there has to be SOME game
we can give it to besides POKEMON... I mean the sales of it have
little to do with the game and more to do with the marketing. Not that
that's all bad, but it didn't revolutionize anything except the
capacity of Nintendo to successfully addict kids to videogames...
Vincent Valentine
> BTW, Felicia and Lilith from Darkstalkers are godesses. Ladies, if somehow
> you ever become real, I'll be your sex slave.
Hey bastard, I called Lilith a LONG time ago. SHE'S MINE DAMMIT! MINE!
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<saint...@super.hotmail.com> wrote:
>Oh yeah... duh. I would say Doom but all the FPS's put together don't
>approach the mammoth that is Pikachu. C'mon, there has to be SOME game
>we can give it to besides POKEMON... I mean the sales of it have
>little to do with the game and more to do with the marketing. Not that
>that's all bad, but it didn't revolutionize anything except the
>capacity of Nintendo to successfully addict kids to videogames...
I dunno. For long term impact, you might have a case for both Doom
(might never have reached Pokemon's level of success, but it spawned
more imitators than any other game of the decade) or Street Fighter II
(ditto). But its difficult to say, since both of those have had a
great deal longer than Pokemon to change the face of gaming.
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Vincent Valentine
>
> Look everyone! This year has THREE zeros in it! Let's make lists of things!
OK!
>
> Games of the century
Alright I'll Save the long descriptions.
5. Metal Gear Solid
4. Mike Tyson's Punchout
3. Final Fantasy VIII
2. Half-life
1. Super Mario Bros 1
> Games of the decade:
5. Chrono Trigger
Best SNES Game, And one of Squares best RPGs. Endearing characters that
you just love to death, a neat story and Some of the best music in a
game outside of final fantasy
4. Kirby's Adventure
The best NES Game and best platformer. It's cuteness, originality, and
it's ability to grab you by the neck, and say "MASTER ME, BITCH!" makes
it very fun. If you're just sitting at home, then try and beat this game
as fast as possible. And I just LOVE sitting around, and listing to the
music on Nosefart for DOS and turning different insturments on and off,
wallowing in the near perfect melodies.
3. Final Fantasy VIII
Best RPG, Period. Although FFVII was the most infuental console RPG, And
DQ was the first "real" console rpg, we aren't making a "most infuencial
list", and FFVIII is the best. Best story, best battle system, best
characters, best visuals, and best execution.
2. Metal Gear Solid
I just ove this game. I've won this game almost as much as Kirby. Always
finding fun things to do. I was Barrowing my friends copy, then Best buy
sold it for $39 w/ VR Missions. So I bought it and it was one of the
best gaming moments ever. Plus, Jonny Sizaki is the video game character
you feel sorry for most.
1. Half-life
Half-life + TFC + Counterstrike + Opposing Forces + Gamespy = Orgasm O_O
> Games of the year (1999)
5. MGS: VR Missions
Such a fun puzzle/strategy/action game. Still one of the games I play
the most. Endless fun, and endless replay value.
4. Mario Golf
Rent this, Call over three friends, and have a sleepover with this game
on. Best multiplayer game since Goldeneye. Easy to learn, and funn as
hell to win. The taunts are perfect too, because actual verbal taunts
just don't seem to work.
3. Ape Escape
Don't know what Wyv was implying, but this is one hell of a fun game.
Straight from the opening cinema, with its cute characters and
impossibly wonderful music. The seeming complexity of the contolls is
actually easy to master, with in game training sessions. This is Mario
with a better story(beautifully cliched), better graphics(ARRG! TO
CUTE!), and more fun; And Zelda on crack, with a more rewarding feeling
after beating a level.
2. Starseige: Tribes
Cannot explain. The most user-friendly multiplayer game ever. With
enless fun and customization.
1. Final Fantasy 8
Huh? Read Wyvern's explaination.
Honorable Games: Guardian Heros, Final Fantasy 1, 3-7, Megaman games,
Zelda games, Tetris, Pac-man, Outrun, Street Fighter games, NFL Blitz,
Super Mario 2-3, SM64, SMRPG, SMW1, SMW2: Yoshi's Island, FF Tactics,
Vanal Hearts, Bubble Bobble, Twisted Metal 2, Metroid Games, SNK
Fighters, Doom, Duke Nukem 3d, X-com 1, Daggerfall, Homeword, Soul
Calibre, The Sierra "Quest" Games: Kings, Space, police, For Glory,
Leisure Suit Larry, SWAT3, Bushido Blade, Gran Turismo, Pokemon,
Xenogears, Grim Fandango, Warcraft 2, Gunstar Heroes, Strider, Sonic
games, Streets of Rage games, Shinobi 3, Ecco the dolphin, Metal Gear 1,
Castlevania games. There's more, but I'm tired.
Nick Zitzmann
article <TQ2h4.235$8M....@news.tufts.edu>:
> Hey..I started to notice all these girls have the letter "a" at the end of
> their names......with 3 -na there....
>
> *scratches head*
In Latin and just about every Latin-derived language, feminine names end
with an "a." And that includes inanimate objects, too; "it" is not used to
describe proper objects in Latin, so "him" and "her" are used instead.
That's why Marius, Mario, and Maria are basically the same name applied to
different genders...
Nick Zitzmann ICQ: 22305512
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Nick Zitzmann
article <KMQg4.904$Wn2....@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>:
> 4.Super Mario Bros. 3
>
> The best platformer ever made and the best selling game ever,too.
Actually, AFAIK this game took second place by a large margin to the first
SMB in terms of sales.
J Ford
<sean.da...@oberlin.edu> wrote:
>I dunno. For long term impact, you might have a case for both Doom
>(might never have reached Pokemon's level of success, but it spawned
>more imitators than any other game of the decade) or Street Fighter II
>(ditto). But its difficult to say, since both of those have had a
>great deal longer than Pokemon to change the face of gaming.
And Pokemon hasn't really changed the face of it, anyway... if it had,
all the little knock-offs would be as equally popular or dominant as
Pokemon itself. Instead Pokemon far outsells all other 'clone' games,
very unlike the old FPS days. Strong evidence Pokemon is more
marketing wizardry than a shift in gaming.
Charon
> wy at <nos...@nospam.tufts.edu> was hit with a Spoon for saying this in
> article <TQ2h4.235$8M....@news.tufts.edu>:
>
> > Hey..I started to notice all these girls have the letter "a" at the end of
> > their names......with 3 -na there....
> >
> > *scratches head*
>
> In Latin and just about every Latin-derived language, feminine names end
> with an "a." And that includes inanimate objects, too; "it" is not used to
> describe proper objects in Latin, so "him" and "her" are used instead.
>
> That's why Marius, Mario, and Maria are basically the same name applied to
> different genders...
::Ponders what gender Marius would be::
Charon
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Same as Marcus, no doubt
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wy
Address == "nick...@eskimo.com"
Date == "Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:41:21 -0800"
MessageID == "<B4AD2371.C033%nick...@eskimo.com>"
NZ|;P~ wy at <nos...@nospam.tufts.edu> was hit with a Spoon for saying this in
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
O_o I hope it was the one from FF4..
NZ|;P~ In Latin and just about every Latin-derived language, feminine names end
NZ|;P~ with an "a." And that includes inanimate objects, too; "it" is not used to
NZ|;P~ describe proper objects in Latin, so "him" and "her" are used instead.
NZ|;P~ That's why Marius, Mario, and Maria are basically the same name applied to
NZ|;P~ different genders...
Hmmm, interesting, I didn't know that. The name "Rena" is also a Japanese
name, there is a young Japanese actress called Rena Tanaka. I'm not sure
if the name was borrowed from English though. (very likely)
wy
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Sean Daugherty
<nick...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>> 4.Super Mario Bros. 3
>>
>> The best platformer ever made and the best selling game ever,too.
>
>Actually, AFAIK this game took second place by a large margin to the first
>SMB in terms of sales.
Is that including the "sales" of the game packaged with the NES
console itself? If so, it seems like the results would be slightly
skewed, since a lot of people weren't so much buying the game as
buying the console and getting the game.
Sean Daugherty
(Charon) wrote:
>> That's why Marius, Mario, and Maria are basically the same name applied to
>> different genders...
>
> ::Ponders what gender Marius would be::
Hermaphroditic?
Wyvern
wy wrote in message ...
> Name == "Sean Daugherty"
> Address == "sean.da...@oberlin.edu"
> Date == "Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:51:36 -0500"
> MessageID == "<2u698ssf1o7ojqlgp...@4ax.com>"
>
>
>>>Games of the year (1999)
>SD|;P~ 4. Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
>SD|;P~ 3. Silent Hill
>SD|;P~ 2. Final Fantasy VIII
>SD|;P~ 1. Grandia
>
>My turn:
>
>5. Resident Evil 3
>4. Metal Gear Solid (hey, is this game released in 98 or 99....-_-
It was '98, sorry. ^^;;
-Wyvern
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