Okay, a couple of my pro pics. (0/4)
Themis T
Nice! Did you study art?
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ChocoZell Zero
>
>Nice! Did you study art?
Self taught and learned through apprenticeship. Really, the only way
to learn is to have a mentor. For me, I took classes, but rarely did
they teach me anything I didn't already know, and nothing of what I
needed to know without having to travel across the continental US to
go to a near unreachable school for. I met a few people at San Diego
Comic Con- one became my tutor, the other I became art assistant to
(and still work for). Most of what worked is I had a few constructive
anatomy classes from a local comics/fine art artist here, and once I
learned that, everything else fell into place. I look to various
influences by other artists to learn from their styles and implement
what was useful to me for my art. I constantly have different
influences all the time. There are really only about 4 artists that
I'm always learning from even now and are my favorites.
But I have yet to win the fight with oil paint and acrylic. That stuff
is hard to use. ;P
CZ
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>I figured I might as well post something of my pro work. I just picked
>4 of my favorites from stuff I've done lately. I mostly draw a lot of
>character portraits, but also a lot of scenes, especially with action
>and plenty of backgrounds. While it looks like a lot of work and time
>(which it can be sometimes), remember one of the main reasons behind
>pro artists being good- we are lazy, and look for all possible
>shortcuts to drawing detail. So we all either fake it and just throw
>in lines, or just throw in just enough lines to give a hint of the
>details, and your brain does the rest. That's the difference between a
>pro and an amateur. Simplicity. So ends my art lesson for today.
>
>The portraits are from one of the Changeling books from White Wolf,
>the intro pics are from the new revised Werewolf: The Apocalypse book
>from WW as well.
>
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>http://www.geocities.com/charred_olaf/intro4.gif
>http://www.geocities.com/charred_olaf/intro5.gif
further proof that i have no future in art....
bah, i need to get around to writing one of the many screen plays i'm
working
on....then filming it....
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Themis T
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It's more or less the same with me and art books. Whatever is commercially
available (in terms of books) I already know for myself. I don't want to
sound pompous, but most textbooks deal with elementary stuff, and they're
also bad at it. The only line of books I can recommend, is the on by Byrne
Hogarth, who used to draw Tarzan in the 40s and 50s. His 'dynamic anatomy'
and 'dynamic light and shade' are quite the accomplished effort. Anatomy I
already know but for light and shade one can never stop learning. Artists I
admire: Frazetta (of course), Michael Whellan, Corben, Brom, Rembrant, and a
lot of romantics and Dutch masters. Comic artists I admire: Moebius,
Gimenez, Altuna, Manara, Pratt, Uderzo, Giardino, Bilal, Serpieri, Buscema,
Wood, Eisner, Kirby, McCay, Barks, Winsdor Smith, Siekenwiech (did I type
that right?), Adams, Byrne, Tezuka, Utatane, Manabe, Shirow, Yashikazu.
> But I have yet to win the fight with oil paint and acrylic. That stuff
> is hard to use. ;P
>
How about pencils and/or watercolours?
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>"ChocoZell Zero" <some...@something.com> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 24 May 2001 08:19:14 +0100, "Themis T" <tt...@ukc.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Nice! Did you study art?
>>
>> Self taught and learned through apprenticeship. Really, the only way
>> to learn is to have a mentor. For me, I took classes, but rarely did
>> they teach me anything I didn't already know, and nothing of what I
>> needed to know without having to travel across the continental US to
>> go to a near unreachable school for. I met a few people at San Diego
>> Comic Con- one became my tutor, the other I became art assistant to
>> (and still work for). Most of what worked is I had a few constructive
>> anatomy classes from a local comics/fine art artist here, and once I
>> learned that, everything else fell into place. I look to various
>> influences by other artists to learn from their styles and implement
>> what was useful to me for my art. I constantly have different
>> influences all the time. There are really only about 4 artists that
>> I'm always learning from even now and are my favorites.
>
>It's more or less the same with me and art books. Whatever is commercially
>available (in terms of books) I already know for myself. I don't want to
>sound pompous, but most textbooks deal with elementary stuff, and they're
>also bad at it. The only line of books I can recommend, is the on by Byrne
>Hogarth, who used to draw Tarzan in the 40s and 50s. His 'dynamic anatomy'
>and 'dynamic light and shade' are quite the accomplished effort.
*cringe* . . . I hear that from almost every artist I meet- Hogarth's
stuff is good for incorporating movement into figures. Unfortunately I
can't recommend him for constructive anatomy. Look for some anatomy
books (either 1 large book, or the same book split into 6 little books
by Dover Publishing) by George Bridgeman. He is a genius at showing
how to do anatomy and gives you practical explanations as to why it
works the way it does. His book was originally printed in the 30's,
but it's good even now. Another good artist is Andrew Loomis. A good
example of how to draw well done anatomy and especially heads (the
hardest part of the human body, btw). He was big in the 40's, but
again, his stuff is better to learn from.
Mainly because drawing anatomy correctly is a LOT harder than drawing
it in motion.
> Anatomy I
>already know but for light and shade one can never stop learning. Artists I
>admire: Frazetta (of course), Michael Whellan, Corben, Brom, Rembrant, and a
>lot of romantics and Dutch masters. Comic artists I admire: Moebius,
>Gimenez, Altuna, Manara, Pratt, Uderzo, Giardino, Bilal, Serpieri, Buscema,
>Wood, Eisner, Kirby, McCay, Barks, Winsdor Smith, Siekenwiech (did I type
>that right?),
I dunno, but I know it's pronounced Sin-ke-vich.
> Adams,
Which one? Art or Niel?
> Byrne, Tezuka, Utatane, Manabe, Shirow, Yashikazu.
>
All great artists to learn from. A few more that I recommend- Alphonse
Mucha, J.C. Lyendecker, Drew Struzan, and Elvgren. Can't remember his
first name at the moment since my book's in storage for the time
being.
>> But I have yet to win the fight with oil paint and acrylic. That stuff
>> is hard to use. ;P
>>
>How about pencils and/or watercolours?
I use watercolors like it's second nature. I don't use pencils too
much anymore except to add sharper lines to my watercolor work.
CZ