Message from discussion Is DAOC really THAT good?

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Subject: Re: Is DAOC really THAT good?
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bizbee wrote in message ...
>Yn erthygl <1vdK7.12812$HE3.3666...@news1.telusplanet.net>, sgrifenws
>"James" <jamesgrah...@home.com>:
>
>>    My last PvP experience was on Test. I was a level 9 skeleton, and I
had
>>a level 2 necro and a level 1 cleric pinned to the guards at the entrance
to
>>Neriak. If they moved ten feet from those guards, they died. So there was
>>nothing they could do except beg in /ooc to be allowed to play the game.
>>What, exactly, should they have done? At their level they die if they try
>>and train guards on me, not me. They can send tells out to higher levels
for
>>help, but they'd have to find someone who cared. Or, they can do what they
>>ended up doing - camping to play somewhere fun.
>
>Gee, that sounds real nice of you. And your point in doing this was
>what, to ruin someone else's time?

    I wanted to try being a monster, and try PvP (in a limited form) at the
same time. Since all the cries for help were doing is attracting other
player mobs to Neriak, if I wanted to kill anything I had to go there. Given
the players kept on casting on me, I felt it my duty as a monster to beat
them senseless. 8)

>Seems to me that it wouldn't be
>terribly difficult to simply stop someone and say "would you kill that
>dumb ass for us?"

    It would on Test, the underpopulated server. There was never other
players in the zone. When I spawned in WC as a giant spider, a /who all
revealed only my level 6 giant spider in the zone. (Yeah, your monster
showed up on /who all. It was neat.) I can't imagine a server where West
Commons is empty at ANY time of day, let alone prime time when I was
playing.

>I'm sure a whole lot of people would've been happy to.
>Killing someone is one thing, you're describing harrassment, however.

    When I first arrived at Neriak, I ended up killing the snake and
decaying skeleton that had been bind-point camping the level 1 cleric. The
rules allowed them to do it, so they did it. That's the motto of PvP. If
someone as generally mild-mannered (I DID try to do some /emote
communications and play with them, until they kept casting ;-) ) as me could
grief with such ease, imagine what dedicated griefers could do.

>Personally, I'd have simply plopped my ass down and sat there.... see,
>all the time <I'm> sitting there doing nothing... so are you. I can
>get up and go change the oil in my car... but if you want to make sure
>I don't get past, you have to sit there and watch me.
>Now, who is working who?

    To the true griefer, time wasted is irrelevant. They are preventing you
from doing what YOU want to do - that's satisfaction enough.

>>>Of course, this is a <lot> different
>>>than being killstolen from and getting giants trained on you in
>>>Oasis... that makes a <lot> more sense, and I see your point now, it's
>>>MUCH MUCH more enjoyable.
>>
>>    There are some parallels. In this case, you have to find a GM who
cares.
>>8)
>
>I didn't meant someone deliberately doing it. My point was that NPCs
>will indiscriminately squash you without batting an eye, yet people
>still go back for more, bitching and whining all the way . Saying a
>game isn't fun because you got ambushed and ganked, but another game
><is> fun when giants spawn on top of you and kill you seems kind of
>silly.

    Oh, ok. Yeah, good point! 8)

    James