Avoid this disrespectful ass like the plague he is. Anyone who has the gall
to interrupt a planned guild event (well over 30 people were there being
frustrated by this willful child) and continues to do so after being asked
by a GM to "remove himself from the zone or face the consequences" deserves
to be ostracized by society in the hopes that he will learn that behavior
like this does not go unpunished or un noticed. We as a society usually
jail people that behave in this manner. I'm hoping he is banned, but if not,
you are forewarned and forearmed
The GM eventually showed up (after the meeting was over) and had a little
chat with her because of our complaints. The end result was that the GM was
watching her the whole time, and she tried to lie her way out of it but he
caught her on every one of them. It couldn't have been the first time
either, because the end result was a perma-ban.
"Uv" <gmy...@silcom.com> wrote in message
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>I /reported some idiot for using outrageous language when
> he went off on some unprovoked namecalling jag (suppose mb or al is on
> my server?)
Are you implying that I would do something like that? It sure sounds like
it to me. I wouldn't do something like that in EQ. I am very respectful
and quiet for the most part when playing. You assume too much.
> when the <2> gms showed, he tried to say the <I> was the
> one that was calling <him> names (hey, maybe it <is> mb or al....)....
If you portray yourself on the servers the same way you do here I can see
why someone would tell a GM that.
> one of the gms says "uhhhh, I have your exact words right here in
> front of me...."
Baited most likely. I bet you are proud.
> Duh. This was about five seconds before the guy simply disappeared,
> moved to a different zone by the gm.
You probably chuckled to yourself over having baited someone into name
calling again.
> "Happyfeet" was all too proud of himself yesterday afternoon on Fennin Ro
> server. During our entire guild event at the Arena, he continually
> interrupted to jump in and kill whomever he pleased at whatever time he
> pleased, regardless of our continuous requests for him to cease.
Just out of couriousity, what was he doing besides hunting the things that you
guys were hunting? I assume he was doing more than that if the GM banned him.
I've only recently started going on guild raids with my main, and that's a
question that's been on my mind. Other people (not in our guild) show up, ask
what's going on, and let us know that they are hunting there too. Not only
don't we complain about it, but it would seem very wrong to try to do so.
I'm just picturing the frustration of making some long haul to go try out a
new dungeon, only to arrive and have 30 guys with guild tags start telling you,
"Sorry. Befallen is CAMPED! Go away." It would seem that if I was that guy, I
would politelly inform the guildies that I had come to hunt, and that I would be
happy to share spawns, then go about my business.
I was under the impression that GM's generally tend to resolve issues like
that by informing both parties that they have to share spawns. Or do guilds get
some preferential treatment in petitions for cases like this? I ask because I
haven't run into it yet, but I may in the future.
--
Jakys the Mad Monk of Qeynos
Monk of 20 Seasons, Silent Fist
jaZZmanian Devil wrote:
>
> Uv wrote:
>
> > "Happyfeet" was all too proud of himself yesterday afternoon on Fennin Ro
> > server. During our entire guild event at the Arena, he continually
> > interrupted to jump in and kill whomever he pleased at whatever time he
> > pleased, regardless of our continuous requests for him to cease.
>
> Just out of couriousity, what was he doing besides hunting the things that you
> guys were hunting? I assume he was doing more than that if the GM banned him.
Arena, He was disrupting a scheduled meeting by Killing those in a
meeting, after being asked not to.
> I was under the impression that GM's generally tend to resolve issues like
> that by informing both parties that they have to share spawns. Or do guilds get
> some preferential treatment in petitions for cases like this? I ask because I
> haven't run into it yet, but I may in the future.
Had it been co-existing with a raid, no recourse would have been
available.
StanMann
And you think that we really need to be warned that a player who calls
himself "Happyfeet" is an idiot? Isn't that kind of self evident?
> Just out of couriousity, what was he doing besides hunting the things
that you
> guys were hunting? I assume he was doing more than that if the GM
banned him.
You're misreading the story. "Whoever," not whatever. He wasn't
killing their hunting targets, he was killing players. Cheapshotting
people who were trying to duel another player.
Monk and Rogue are fighting in the center of the arena, as part of a
guild event. One of them gets a bit low... and a druid who isn't part of
the guild, event or fight nukes the Monk's player from the sidelines.
> jaZZmanian Devil wrote:
>
> > Just out of couriousity, what was he doing besides hunting the things that you
> > guys were hunting? I assume he was doing more than that if the GM banned him.
>
> Arena, He was disrupting a scheduled meeting by Killing those in a
> meeting, after being asked not to.
Ah! Missed that part. My bad. Got it.
> You're misreading the story. "Whoever," not whatever. He wasn't
> killing their hunting targets, he was killing players. Cheapshotting
> people who were trying to duel another player.
>
> Monk and Rogue are fighting in the center of the arena, as part of a
> guild event. One of them gets a bit low... and a druid who isn't part of
> the guild, event or fight nukes the Monk's player from the sidelines.
Oh, crap. That *would* royally suck. Surprised the whole guild didn't line
up to just gank the guy. Unless of course, he was some uberlevel or what not.
Brent
I can see him getting away with this maybe twice.
But if you have 30 people there, surely there was at least one person that
could root him next time he tried it, followed by a mass nuking?
Joe D
--
Who put the fifth ace in the deck?
You were fighting in the PvP area. Someone came along and killed you.
I've never heard of Verant stepping in to prevent guild party disruptions.
Sounds kinda weird to me...I don't see where he's breaking the rules.
I don't see why y'all didn't just gang up on him every time you saw him.
Happyfeet is obviously a jerk. However, it also doesn't sound like your
guild is very bright.
> You're misreading the story. "Whoever," not whatever. He wasn't
> killing their hunting targets, he was killing players. Cheapshotting
> people who were trying to duel another player.
>
> Monk and Rogue are fighting in the center of the arena, as part of a
> guild event. One of them gets a bit low... and a druid who isn't part of
> the guild, event or fight nukes the Monk's player from the sidelines.
Oh, crap. That *would* royally suck. Surprised the whole guild didn't line
up to just gank the guy. Unless of course, he was some uberlevel or what
not.
Not only was he cutting in during single duels, while we were waiting to
begin individual events, he (I believe a level 54) was completely taking out
people before anything could even begin! ALOT of time was wasted waiting for
everyone to be where they were supposed to be (on the platform) because
Happyfeet would kill them before they could even get to the plat. Usually
with one hit or nuke. Especially when it was time for the 30-39lvl people to
do their events. He was taking them out with little effort, then spamming
the zone with HAHAHA's and YOU'RE all so LAME's and whatnot. Alot of time
was also wasted with /ooc's and shouts back to him, which just fed the
troll. Our guild only allows people who are over 21 into the guild, so I'd
like to assume that we were being the more mature ones, and at the mercy of
a child. BUT.. we all know what happens when you assume....
"Uv" <gmy...@silcom.com> wrote in message
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>You were fighting in the PvP area. Someone came along and killed you.
I only got killed by him once, before the FFA, Last man Standing event.
I knew I was going to die easily and first. I'm a cleric. No harm done to my
ego. I didn't get to play in the actual event, however. I paid my 15plat to
get there, it would have been nice to actually be able to participate
without an outside force changing the outcome.
>I've never heard of Verant stepping in to prevent guild party disruptions.
>Sounds kinda weird to me...I don't see where he's breaking the rules.
I"m sure he wasn't breaking any VERANT rules.. but I'd like to think some
SOCIAL rules still apply. When you're asked politely to leave an area where
we have every right to also, and continue to be a nuicance... well.. if YOU
think it's the right thing to do, then I'd hate to meet you in a dark
dungeon
>I don't see why y'all didn't just gang up on him every time you saw him.
We did manage to kill him on several occasions. When he killed our
guildmistress and the times he was trying to kill the events co-ordinator.
>Happyfeet is obviously a jerk. However, it also doesn't sound like your
>guild is very bright.
I believe he was a level 54 he was nuking everyone in sight before
anything could even begin! ALOT of time was wasted waiting for everyone to
be where they were supposed to be (on the platform) for a "free for all,
Last Man Standing" because Happyfeet would kill them before they could even
get to the plat. If YOU think we're "not very bright" due to our conduct,
then who was the smart one in this situation? According to the GM's set of
rules, he needed to leave and was removed. What would you suggest doing next
time to avoid such a situation??
Also, this event included another guild that we are attempting an alliance
with. Not everything could be handled thru guildchat. This event was to
collect dues, have a party (lots of Minotaur Hero ale and Gnome shaped
cookies! yum) and get to know new members and this other guild. I'm sure
other things were supposed to happen, but after farting around for 1-1/2
hours while Happyshit screwed around ruining things, then Fennin server
crashed for another half hour (the chatroom started a rumor that it was a
guild event in the Arena that precipitated the crash :oP) we all decided to
meet some time next week.
Well, a special case can be made for the Arena. Since a lot of guilds have
their tournaments there. these things takes weeks to plan because of the
disparate schedule of most guildmembers. For my guild weekend specials
sometimes involve members taking work off or staying up real late, having a
jerk mess with that much people's precious time after being told that its
not wanted can be considered harrassment.
On a side note, we once had a lvl35 ranger interrupt one of our tournaments.
She was a total twink from the type of gear she had and kept challenging
(meaning she just walked up and started wailing on our members) us. Since
most of our members were below 30 at the time, she made quick workk of most
of us. After two or three of this, we got fed up and told her to leave.
She refused, our resident uber-necro (who was guiding some younger members
to the Arena) un-invised, feared her, and everyone jumped her. Apparently
she was bound to the Arena, because 3 mins later, she came back to get her
corpse. Uber necro sicced his pet at her with the rest of the pet casters
doing the same. Bamm, another corpse. She came back swearing up a storm --
but after we told her we'd leave her alone if she dragged her corpse away
(not loot it in front of us) she left us alone.
>
> I don't see why y'all didn't just gang up on him every time you saw him.
If they were all lvl around lvl 20 and it was a lvl 40 druid, I don't think
they can do anything to him. Fortunately for my group, we had a few charter
members who had lvl 50 alternates.
>
> Happyfeet is obviously a jerk. However, it also doesn't sound like your
> guild is very bright.
Why? It takes a long time to set up an event and have everyone come. Do
they all just call it off becuase a there was a jerk haning around with
nothing to do but kill people?
John
[snip]
I'm curious to see what level/class Happyfeet is, and the range of levels of
the guild members. A high level with good resists could explain why nobody
could take him out. <shrug>
> Well, a special case can be made for the Arena. Since a lot of guilds
have
> their tournaments there. these things takes weeks to plan because of the
> disparate schedule of most guildmembers. For my guild weekend specials
> sometimes involve members taking work off or staying up real late, having
a
> jerk mess with that much people's precious time after being told that its
> not wanted can be considered harrassment.
> > Happyfeet is obviously a jerk. However, it also doesn't sound like your
> > guild is very bright.
>
> Why? It takes a long time to set up an event and have everyone come. Do
> they all just call it off becuase a there was a jerk haning around with
> nothing to do but kill people?
The former quote sufficiently answered my "not very bright" comment. Thanks
for the information, I admit my mistake.
Unfortunately for us, he was bound in that zone, and was soon back to
torment us some more.
"Joe D" <jo...@cws.org> wrote in message
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MadBommaŽ wrote in message ...
That, and the fact that he was bound at the arena, so even if
they killed him he wouldn't go away...
--
"It's ridiculous to say that videogames affect children! If, for example,
Pac-Man affected kids born in the 80s, today we'd have a lot of youngsters
running around in dark rooms, eating pills and listening to monotone music!"
~Aariel Brewmeister
>
>"Mark Bradshaw" <mark...@abts.net> wrote in message
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>On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:26:13 -0800, "Uv" <gmy...@silcom.com> wrote:
>
>>"Happyfeet" was all too proud of himself yesterday afternoon on Fennin Ro
>>server.
>
>
>Just wondering, does said druid idiot belong to a guild?
>
>Yep. Silvan Rangers. This guild and ours (and several other guilds agree)
>aren't on the best of terms. SR makes it a point to make our lives
>miserable. (old long story of one guild breaking up and a certain member of
>disbanded guild joining SR, the rest of the guild joining another
>established guild, and the new SR member keeping their old gripe. Old gripe
>now involves 3rd party guilds). We chose not to bring in the whole Silvan
>Rangers guild to answer for this one person's disrespect, as it would
>certainly have led to a guild war.
>
Well, that explains it, then. SR are probably tied only with TMO as
the biggest bunch of dickweeds on the server. Just ask any Last Rites
member how the SR screwed them over on a "join" Trackanon (the dragon,
mind you) raid, not letting any LR folks roll for loot, and in fact,
handing out a cobalt breastplate to a SR member that WASN'T EVEN IN ON
THE RAID.
Visited thier messageboard once. Judging from that, the general level
of maturity among their members probably doesn't raise above the bar
set by the cast of "South Park".
Uv
"Mark Bradshaw" <mark...@abts.net> wrote in message
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agreed.
:>"Happyfeet" was all too proud of himself yesterday afternoon on Fennin Ro
:>server.
: Just wondering, does said druid idiot belong to a guild?
Yes, by all means, please share his guildname as well, if you have it.
--
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Aaron Newton - fign...@louisville.edu - IRC: FigNewton
>I was just asking my husband what the site addy was for Silvan Rangers.. Do
>you happen to have it handy, please???
>
>Uv
Sure do. http://plaza.ufl.edu/ojako/
Don't go into there thinking they'll take sympathy for your guild.
They'll just as likely laugh you out as soon as listen to your
arguments. And don't expect them to understand discussions of reason
or ethics, as they have a suspicious lack of both.
Sure do. http://plaza.ufl.edu/ojako/
Nah, wasn't planning on posting at all.. just a little research.. thanks for
the link.
>Apparently Happyfeet was having a really bad weekend for Saturday in Ill
>Omen he was also causing problems with players there, with what appeared to
>be massive kill stealing, so it would seem that if he is not banned he is a
>player to avoid if possible.
With a name like Happyfeet, let me guess... halfling dr00d?
Celaeno Duskwalker
Fier'dal druid of Erollisi Marr
: Yep. Silvan Rangers. This guild and ours (and several other guilds agree)
: aren't on the best of terms. SR makes it a point to make our lives
God, that explains a lot. Sorry man.
Silvan freaking Rangers. *sigh* Fennin keeps getting worse with the
Uber-dood crowd. I look forward to the day they feel they've all "owned"
the rest of us long enough and grow tired and quit playing.
-Aaron
Yeah... heard about the general issue, not about the specifics. A very good
RL friend is in Last Rites, and Hyarth is a really good guy. Then there
have been numerous jumped plane raids... SR just needs to go the way of
Shining Farce.
I haven't changed my name once, Tardboy.
Celaeno wrote in message <3a9c0713...@news.world-online.no>...
<snip>
I've crossed paths with Happyfeet before so we agree on the kind of person
he is.
What kind of person are you? You say you planned your guild event for
weeks. I'm sorry to tell you this, but the other 2500 folks currently
playing on Fennin Ro at any one time aren't privy to your plans.
What should you have done? Ignored him and moved to one of the several
*other* PvP arenas. Better still, call in all your high level friends.
Hell, send *me* a /tell. Aamen isnt 54 but he's enough to take a naked
halfling druid. There's no excuse for his disruptive behavior and as we all
know, sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands.
Knowing this, I would consider carefully any future guild events you hold
and where you hold them. Yes, I know, you have to share the rest of the
server with everyone else. I always shed a tear when a couple chooses to
have their marriage ceremony at the EC tunnel and they wonder in anguish why
it gets disrupted. Does the phrase "Fool me once..." ring any bells for
you?
Finally, I haven't read anywhere in this thread your guild affiliation.
Would you care to enlighten us, please?
Aamen Palantir
Fennin Ro
--
"Your foes seem endless, their tales unknown."
I'm glad someone other than the offended parties agree.
>What kind of person are you? You say you planned your guild event for
>weeks. I'm sorry to tell you this, but the other 2500 folks currently
>playing on Fennin Ro at any one time aren't privy to your plans.
I'm personally a patient person, and was a spectator for most of the
killings of our people and Happyfeet. I was killed once, partly due to him,
but as I have stated before, I'm a cleric, and the first to be taken out at
any event. I'm not the responsible party for the location/time/date or
schedule of events for the guild. That would be our Guildmistress, Shaylanna
Shadoestreak and the events coordinator. We were aware that the server had
other people on it :o).. there were a few other people at the arena while
we were there. They "minded" their business, we minded ours. Happyfeet was
the only one interested in our event to the extent that he halted all
proceedings.
>What should you have done? Ignored him and moved to one of the several
>*other* PvP arenas.
Move 30+people to another arena because of one idiot??? After finally
getting everyone together?? no.. that's not reasonable. We've got people in
Australia and Europe in our guild. It was noon on Sunday to make it
semi-reasonable for them to get there, but it was either very early morning
for some, or very late at night. One idiot was not going to make us all
leave. We continually asked him not to directly physically disrupt the
proceedings, turned off /shouts killed him outright when he became a
nuicance and finally /petitioned to have him cease.
>Better still, call in all your high level friends.
Azlyn(sp?) is a lvl 59 necro. She was there, as well as Shaal, Gilamane,
Silverhand, Shaylanna, Caena, Ramath. They could and did "handle" him.
Several times in the 2 hours we were there.
>Hell, send *me* a /tell. Aamen isnt 54 but he's enough to take a naked
>halfling druid. There's no excuse for his disruptive behavior and as we
all
>know, sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands.
That's very generous of you to offer your services, M'Lord. I may take you
up on that offer!
>Knowing this, I would consider carefully any future guild events you hold
>and where you hold them. Yes, I know, you have to share the rest of the
>server with everyone else. I always shed a tear when a couple chooses to
>have their marriage ceremony at the EC tunnel and they wonder in anguish
why
>it gets disrupted. Does the phrase "Fool me once..." ring any bells for
>you?
Well, forewarned is forearmed. We'll always be on the lookout for Happyfeet
wherever we go. We'll be sure to make a wide berth around his evil aura. We
cannot live our lives in fear of one person's vengeance, so we will go on
with our plans as ....err.. planned. Within reason, of course. Next time we
choose to have our guild meeting in EC Tunnel, we'll be sure NOT to ask
everyone in the guild to use /ooc, and we'll not be /shout-ing for people to
stop the /auctions. :oP
>Finally, I haven't read anywhere in this thread your guild affiliation.
>Would you care to enlighten us, please?
ARIAS'TAMA!!!!
Zarinea Jara'Copan, 32nd level Cleric, Arias'Tama
Fennin Ro
: ARIAS'TAMA!!!!
Say hi to Honeyy for me. :)
Notwen Gif, 50 Rogue, Officer of Raven.
> So, what you're saying here is that it made <a lot> more sense to beat
> yourselves for a couple hours with this moron, hassle with trying to
> get ahold of a GM, and then come here to debate this thing for days,
> than to simply move to someplace like Freeport? A taxi service could
> be set up to WC and everyone could have been moved in under ten
> minutes by one druid. What does where everyone is from have to do with
> any of this?
Unless I'm missing something, isn't the Freeport arena about 1/10 of the
size of The Arena?
For any kind of a group on group fight, you would need that extra space.
And where everyone is from would have to do with why you don't just say
"Ok, meet back here in 2 hours when he's gotten bored and left."
>Move 30+people to another arena because of one idiot??? After finally
>getting everyone together?? no.. that's not reasonable. We've got people in
>Australia and Europe in our guild. It was noon on Sunday to make it
>semi-reasonable for them to get there, but it was either very early morning
>for some, or very late at night. One idiot was not going to make us all
>leave. We continually asked him not to directly physically disrupt the
>proceedings, turned off /shouts killed him outright when he became a
>nuicance and finally /petitioned to have him cease.
So, what you're saying here is that it made <a lot> more sense to beat
yourselves for a couple hours with this moron, hassle with trying to
get ahold of a GM, and then come here to debate this thing for days,
than to simply move to someplace like Freeport? A taxi service could
be set up to WC and everyone could have been moved in under ten
minutes by one druid. What does where everyone is from have to do with
any of this?
Convenience and a "we have rights too" attitude.
>
>Knowing this, I would consider carefully any future guild events you hold
>and where you hold them.
I'd say this is pretty good advice, there's certainly plenty of
obscure arenas all over the game, setting up a primary and an
alternate doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.
This makes sense. An alternative plan in place. Plan B never inconvenienced
anyone. A driving force behind wanting to stay was that we had already lost
time. We began to lose people. We most definitely would have lost a good
bunch more if we were all forced to move. And what was keeping Happyfeet
from following?
Guildwar is an option here that allows pretty much what you describe.
Of course if you just want to do this as a guild event with your own
guild it would take some effort. You need someone to create a new guild
on an alt character, then when you want to run the event folks who will
be on second team disband from current guild and join secondary one for
the duration of the event. No its not perfect and Yes you wouldn't want
to do a raid at the same time, but its a workable option that allows
server wide controlled PvP to the extent that the participants will
abide by any rules you set up before hand.
When we did this we had created multiple guilds with opposing factions
for roleplaying purposes already, so guildwar set up didn't involve
having to switch guild membership for the event. The only problem we
had was with someone threatening to break the "no item looting" rule we
had set up. Seems one team killed a guy who had a very nice item, never
was sure if threatening to loot him was just RP or what as we gathered
forces and ran them off before it could take place.
th
>Not knowing where you went? Sure, I guess he could spend the rest of
>the night going from arena to arena looking for you... he could also
>get a machine gun and kill everyone on his block. Speculation is
>pretty much a waste of time in this situation.
>I guess if people bail from a guild event simply because it's being
>moved to avoid an idiot, they didn't want to be there very badly in
>the first place.
It's not that hard to find someone... A simple "/who all Arias" would tell
him where the majority of us were at..
Now I think Everyone here is Speculating.. I just came here to warn other
people of a person who doesn't play fair. If this brings ME under fire,
fine. Don't bring my guild under question for doing what we did to rectify
the situation. Apparently we did the right thing in the GM's eyes, and
that's good enough for me.
'nuff said on this matter, thank you all for your advice.
easy .. have the guild leader declare war on his own guild =)
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Sandjumper Jones
51st Halfling Wanderer
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