Naera's Portrait Studio
Naera
Have you ever wished that you were immortal? Well, now you can be!
I'm pleased to announce the opening of a new shop: Naera's Portraits
Studio!
For those living on the Tunare Server, Naera will paint a (digital)
custom-made portrait of you, reflecting your personality, guild
affiliations, and personal tastes; a portrait that will live on forever!
Please visit her Studio (http://exclusivepc.hypermart.net/portraits/)
to see some of her work (more are being hung every week!) and to get
more information.
She will gladly paint couples and group shots - ask her about her
discounted group seating rates!
Naera will also travel to attend a wedding or other special event, if
you wish a portrait to be made for such things. Please note that these
services cost a little extra, so speak to her for more information and
her rates!
You may contact her in-game, or by emailing cate...@hotmail.com.
Let Your Memory Live Beyond Norrath!
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Before you buy.
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Caro
Dan Harmon
Naera <cate...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8a38lr$q9e$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Greetings!
>
> Have you ever wished that you were immortal? Well, now you can be!
>
> I'm pleased to announce the opening of a new shop: Naera's Portraits
> Studio!
Is this a joke? Do you hit the "-" key FOR them, or are you hoping that
they don't know about that key?
Or do you actually add something to the screenshots? If so, what?
You mention cost, but don't mention in-game money, or RL money, but since
you posted in RL, I'm currently assuming you want RL money.
Naera
yourself. (
http://exclusivepc.hypermart.net/portraits/gallery/newadd/newadd_0.html
for the newest ones )
And this is for in-game money, not RL money. I wouldn't stoop THAT
low! Personally I think I do a decent job at it, and my customers are
very pleased with their results.
The people can take their own screenshots, or I can do it for them. And
I don't expect money until THEY are happy with the job I've done - I
don't take money up-front.
I hope that answers your questions, Dan. If not, just ask away.
~Naera
In article <tvax4.1055$fN3....@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"Dan Harmon" <deha...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> Is this a joke? Do you hit the "-" key FOR them, or are you hoping
that
> they don't know about that key?
>
> Or do you actually add something to the screenshots? If so, what?
>
> You mention cost, but don't mention in-game money, or RL money, but
since
> you posted in RL, I'm currently assuming you want RL money.
>
>
--
Diablo69
nice. On this web page right now to see how much she charges
Naera <cate...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8a38lr$q9e$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Greetings!
>
> Have you ever wished that you were immortal? Well, now you can be!
>
> I'm pleased to announce the opening of a new shop: Naera's Portraits
> Studio!
>
> For those living on the Tunare Server, Naera will paint a (digital)
> custom-made portrait of you, reflecting your personality, guild
> affiliations, and personal tastes; a portrait that will live on forever!
>
> Please visit her Studio (http://exclusivepc.hypermart.net/portraits/)
> to see some of her work (more are being hung every week!) and to get
> more information.
>
> She will gladly paint couples and group shots - ask her about her
> discounted group seating rates!
>
> Naera will also travel to attend a wedding or other special event, if
> you wish a portrait to be made for such things. Please note that these
> services cost a little extra, so speak to her for more information and
> her rates!
>
> You may contact her in-game, or by emailing cate...@hotmail.com.
>
> Let Your Memory Live Beyond Norrath!
>
Naera
I do put a lot of time and effort into making each picture unique, and
what ther customer wants themselves to look like (not what Varant wants
them to look like).
~Naera
--
What you see depends on what you are looking for.
In article <3gbx4.4376$DF2.1...@tw12.nn.bcandid.com>,
"Diablo69" <diab...@relic.net> wrote:
> she takes a screen shot and plays with it, they end up looking really
really
> nice. On this web page right now to see how much she charges
>
Kay Anders
> Is this a joke? Do you hit the "-" key FOR them, or are you hoping that
> they don't know about that key?
>
> Or do you actually add something to the screenshots? If so, what?
It's no joke... Naera's for real, and she's darn good at it, too. She takes
your character's screen shot and adds some beautiful backgrounds do it, and
does it so flawlessly that at first look you go, "Where in the game is *that*
beautiful waterfall?" (One of my favorites is a dark elf with what looks
like a burnt out forest behind him.)
And no, I'm not her, I'm not shilling for her either; I don't even know Naera
personally... But she's done portraits for some friends of mine and I'm
thinking of having her do one of my chars at some point. :)
Dan Harmon
> No, it isn't a joke. I DO add things to the portraits - go see for
> yourself. (
> http://exclusivepc.hypermart.net/portraits/gallery/newadd/newadd_0.html
> for the newest ones )
Guess I should have looked first, huh? <g>
It's not something I would want, but the work appears to be worth at least
what you're asking.
Ummm, I'm no attorney, but you might have a bit of trouble using that EQ
logo on your homepage.
Diablo69
she does so i can't pay her the 200pp for it on that server cauz i don't
have a char on it. its something i have wanted for a long time, and yes i'm
an addict, i will put my lil de necros picture in my wallet and show her
around just like i would with my kids photos, yes i know i'm into it to far,
but i almost feel me and Maessa are one so its kinda coolies ne way :)
Maessa SoulDrainer
One &@#$ed up necro
The Rathe
Kay Anders <k...@red-star.net.hates.spam> wrote in message
news:38C54E71...@red-star.net.hates.spam...
Naera
That's one of my favourites, and it was surprisingly easy to do - the
lass is easy to please. *grins*
Thanks muchly for the compliment and defense - I was expecting a hard
crowd in this NG, so it's refreshing to see some people stand up for
me - especially since I tend to get in loads of trouble in-game!
~Naera
In article <38C54E71...@red-star.net.hates.spam>,
k...@red-star.net.remove.this.part wrote:
>
> It's no joke... Naera's for real, and she's darn good at it, too.
She takes
> your character's screen shot and adds some beautiful backgrounds do
it, and
> does it so flawlessly that at first look you go, "Where in the game
is *that*
> beautiful waterfall?" (One of my favorites is a dark elf with what
looks
> like a burnt out forest behind him.)
>
> And no, I'm not her, I'm not shilling for her either; I don't even
know Naera
> personally... But she's done portraits for some friends of mine
and I'm
> thinking of having her do one of my chars at some point. :)
>
>
--
What you see depends on what you are looking for.
Naera
As for the logo, I downloaded it from the EQ web site a LONG ways back -
I guess I should check there, again, as for it's usage rights,
although at the time, it was pretty much free-for-all.
Thanks for the reminder!
In article <xFcx4.1373$fN3....@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"Dan Harmon" <deha...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>
> Guess I should have looked first, huh? <g>
>
> It's not something I would want, but the work appears to be worth at
least
> what you're asking.
>
> Ummm, I'm no attorney, but you might have a bit of trouble using that
EQ
> logo on your homepage.
Golden_Eel
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Naera
suggest you doing that, beforehand, or read what some others have
posted.
Of course, your *sigh* could mean other things - does that mean that
you want one and can't afford? *grins*
Either way, it would be nice of you to expand on your *sigh* a little
more, before taking up the bandwidth of me reading it.
~Naera
In article <8a39hr$qqg$1...@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>,
"-= Scythe =-" <adre...@il.com> wrote:
> *sigh*
>
> Caro
Morgan
>
> Greetings!
>
> Have you ever wished that you were immortal? Well, now you can be!
>
> I'm pleased to announce the opening of a new shop: Naera's Portraits
> Studio!
>
> For those living on the Tunare Server, Naera will paint a (digital)
> custom-made portrait of you, reflecting your personality, guild
> affiliations, and personal tastes; a portrait that will live on forever!
>
Sorry, I hit popups on two screens before I ever got to see even
one example of the work. I was not going to explore any further.
--
Morgan
Strongest of Druids
you want to view better I suggest the following locations.
http://www.ReallySwell.com/art/default.html
http://2amstudios.com/eq/rathe.htm
Sean
By the way, I did go to your website and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET RID OF THE
FUCKING POPUPS!^%$%^#!&^
Also, the images that I did sift through don't look that good. In fact, I
would have my buddy do mine for me:
http://home.rochester.rr.com/jspoof/images
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Everquest Producer
Naera wrote in message <8a38lr$q9e$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>Greetings!
>
>Have you ever wished that you were immortal? Well, now you can be!
>
>I'm pleased to announce the opening of a new shop: Naera's Portraits
>Studio!
>
>For those living on the Tunare Server, Naera will paint a (digital)
>custom-made portrait of you, reflecting your personality, guild
>affiliations, and personal tastes; a portrait that will live on forever!
>
>Please visit her Studio (http://exclusivepc.hypermart.net/portraits/)
>to see some of her work (more are being hung every week!) and to get
>more information.
>
>She will gladly paint couples and group shots - ask her about her
>discounted group seating rates!
>
>Naera will also travel to attend a wedding or other special event, if
>you wish a portrait to be made for such things. Please note that these
>services cost a little extra, so speak to her for more information and
>her rates!
>
>You may contact her in-game, or by emailing cate...@hotmail.com.
>
>Let Your Memory Live Beyond Norrath!
>
Naera
Naera
isn't on Tunare, so there's no point in posting that here, since mine
is for Tunare.
Wyndforge's IS on Tunare, and his is a different approach for those
wanting potraits. If YOU prefer that type of thing, then by all means,
have him do your portrait. For me, the effects that he produces are
along the simplistic lines: a few Photoshop filters here, some colour
balance and contrast there, and a nice border, and that's his
portrait. The effects are all built-in to photoshop. His portraits DO
have very nice borders on them (wish I could get my hands on some of
them). The parchment/water-colour background is certainly effective,
although very easy to accomplish.
I like to give my customers a feeling of "life" to their portraits.
That is why I use real-life background images, not the ones that
EverQuest provides in the screenshots. I give my customers choice, as
well. You may not like my portraits, but my customers do. They choose
the feeling/mood of the portrait, positioning of their character and
objects within the picture, and that is the way that they like it.
As I've said, if you like either one of those places better than mine,
by all means, commision them to do one for you (although The Rathe is
only accepting Special Commision portraits for the next month or so).
A little more kindness and respect would have shown more maturity on
your part, but perhaps that's not your strong point; there are as many
different artistic approahces to portraits, as there are atristic
tastes to those who want them. Please keep this in mind next time you
wish to slam me, or another person.
~Naera
--
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In article <38C5BC32...@10thnet.net>,
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Before you buy.
Naera
the portraits, not the popups. I'm sorry that they are a turn-off to
you, but I don't have the luxury of a pop-up free web hoster.
If there IS one out there that I'm missing, that gives me a nice short
URL like Hypermart does, someone please let me know! I do a lot of web
work for clients, and it would be helpful to get a no-popups host!
Morgan, if at any time you wish to look past the popups and see the
portraits (what the site was intended for), please return. If you are
not, that is fine with me, as well.
~Naera
In article <38C5AAEF...@misleading.com>,
Morgan <mor...@misleading.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I hit popups on two screens before I ever got to see even
> one example of the work. I was not going to explore any further.
>
> --
> Morgan
>
--
What you see depends on what you are looking for.
Naera
No, this is not SPAM. It was only sent to one newsgroup. And, hense
the name "NEWSgroup", my post was NEWS for those who play EverQuest, so
it was not Off-Topic or intruding in any way. It is not spam.
As for the popups, I am given two choices with my hosting at Hypermart:
I can have them insert a banner ad at the top of all of my pages, or
they can open a popup that refreshs every two minutes. Personally, I
like to keep my HTML code the way I wrote it, and I find banners ugly
and obtrusive - it's much easier to just hit the close button on the
pop-up.
For your information and pop-up busting pleasure, there is a program
that will automatically close popup windows for you, called Surf-in-
Peace (which you get get more info and download at
http://www.iconlabs.com/sip.html). I use it, and it works just fine.
We all have our own personal tastes for how we want a portrait to look.
If you like your friend's better, then you should have him do it.
Keep in mind that an artist does grow in his and her talents.
Personally I don't like your friend's portraits much. But he has
been "in business" longer than I have. On my web site, I have ALL of
my portraits that I have ever done. I look at some of them and I
don't think that they're that good, but I posted them anyway. My more
recent ones are better, IMO. As my business gets going, I will get
better, and I will learn.
Also keep in mind that the portraits are what the customer wants them
to be. If you don't like how one turned out, that's alright, because it
was made for the customer, not for you. As long as the customer is
happy, that is what matters to me.
~Naera
In article <e1kx4.16204$Z5.2...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>,
"Sean" <NO....@WILL.SEE.THIS> wrote:
> Is this what they call spam?
>
> By the way, I did go to your website and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET RID
OF THE
> FUCKING POPUPS!^%$%^#!&^
>
> Also, the images that I did sift through don't look that good. In
fact, I
> would have my buddy do mine for me:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/jspoof/images
>
> --
> Sean S. -:- ICQ: 1826323
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> Everquest Producer
>
--
-= Scythe =-
Check out your competition: http://www.ReallySwell.com/art/default.html
Frankly I think he does a much better job. Not just simple cut-and-paste.
But hey! What do i know, im no artist.
Caro
Bristlebane
Naera wrote in message <8a3vsi$cm2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>*sigh*? Let me guess, you posted before visiting the site, huh? heh I'd
>suggest you doing that, beforehand, or read what some others have
>posted.
>
>Of course, your *sigh* could mean other things - does that mean that
>you want one and can't afford? *grins*
>
>Either way, it would be nice of you to expand on your *sigh* a little
>more, before taking up the bandwidth of me reading it.
>
>~Naera
>
>In article <8a39hr$qqg$1...@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>,
> "-= Scythe =-" <adre...@il.com> wrote:
>> *sigh*
>>
>> Caro
>>
>>
>
Naera
mentioned him.
For your informatin, though, I don't just "cut and paste". Every ONE of
those backgrounds comes from 2, 3, sometimes up to 8 (in the case of
Ruldari's portrait) different images that I splice together.
As for Wyndforge's, he arranges people, takes a screenshot, and applies
a filter that is BUILT-IN to photoshop. He may fiddle with colour,
brightness, contrast and the like, but that is very simple to do. To
accomplish what he's done, it would take me all of 15 minutes. For my
portraits, it takes me literally hours of work: finding images,
deciding which parts of the images will work with what the customer
wants, splicing all of those parts together to look like a beliveable
picture, changing the colour, size, etc of each of the picture
fragments to look like the others, and finally I add-in the customer's
image from the screenshots (which I at least take the time to cut-out
of the background). The reason why the backgrounds look like one
background is quite simple: they're supposed to look that way.
Another thing to keep in mind (which I'll have to remember to add to
the web site) is that all of the images there are reduced for the web,
so that people don't have to sit there all day to download one image -
the actual image that the customer receives is of a higher-quality.
I do have to admire Wyndforge's take on the portraits, though,
personally, I like the more life-like and realistic look for my
customers.
~Naera
In article <8a5n1e$1f32$1...@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>,
"-= Scythe =-" <adre...@il.com> wrote:
> *grin*
>
> Check out your competition:
http://www.ReallySwell.com/art/default.html
>
> Frankly I think he does a much better job. Not just simple cut-and-
paste.
> But hey! What do i know, im no artist.
>
> Caro
> Bristlebane
>
--
Roadkill
>seen. If you want to view better I suggest the following locations.
>
>http://www.ReallySwell.com/art/default.html
>
>http://2amstudios.com/eq/rathe.htm
Checked the first one out, second URL just hung and never loaded (I'll try
it again later).
Worst you've ever seen? At least she included the characters into a
completely different background and added a lot of new stuff that was not
there before. The site that you offered contained mostly plain old
screenshots that were touched up with a blurred pinch tool, or a fisheye
lens function. At least she put a lot of time into hers instead of just
hitting the Effects->Pinch and Effects->Gaussian Blur menu options in a
paint program, like the first site.
Naera
name is) does a good job, and I think that our portrats are comparable
in talent. She has had more customers, so has more artwork and has had
more time to hone her skills up, than I have. I do recommend checking
out her work, if you can ever get the page to load. :o) Go to
http://www.2amstudios.com/ and there's a link on there to her site, as
well.
It always feels nice to have someone stand up for you, especially in
newsgroups, where it seems people have no tact and no consideration for
other peoples' feelings. Thank you again!
~Naera
In article <8EF163E60roa...@207.126.101.100>,
--
Sean
is the responsibility of the webmaster to eliminate any annoyance to the
viewer or they'll lose traffic. It is that simple.
And technically, to be "in business" one needs to be paid. My friend does
them for free.
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Naera wrote in message <8a5n74$ils$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
Strongest of Druids
on top. Big deal. At least the other two sites are creative and
original. They do use added little effects that make all the difference.
Your pictures look like you spent 5 minutes on them. I can't believe
anyone would pay for these things. Try putting more thought into your
"portraits." And until you stop just pasting a picture on top of another
one and calling it done, I would also stop calling yourself an artist.
Just because you were so full of yourself for making what you thought were
awesome picutres and I took a shot at your ego should not make you mad.
You ranting on being criticized portrays you are being immature.
Naera wrote:
> --
> What you see depends on what you are looking for.
>
> In article <38C5BC32...@10thnet.net>,
> Strongest of Druids <dr...@10thnet.net> wrote:
> > I checked out the site and have to say these are the worst I've ever
> seen. If
> > you want to view better I suggest the following locations.
> >
> > http://www.ReallySwell.com/art/default.html
> >
> > http://2amstudios.com/eq/rathe.htm
> >
> >
>
Strongest of Druids
software, good for him. His looks much better than yours. He takes the
extra time to make them look like "portraits."
Also, have a look at the Rathe site. He does what you attempt to do. Take
a different, real life background and integrate a person's picture.
http://2amstudios.com/eq/rathe.htm
Naera wrote:
> --
> What you see depends on what you are looking for.
>
Naera
needed to install it just to browse my site - I just thought that you
might want to know, since there are a LOT of sites out there with
popups. If you can't acknowledge when someone is trying to be helpful,
then it's not worth my time to try and help you.
For your information, though, I do have offers to be PAID (in real
money). And you get what you pay for - your friend does them for free,
and IMO they're not as good as what I do. Obviously you disagree, but
stop bashing me for what I like to do, and what other people like. If
you want to draw more business to your friend's site, then just post
the link and leave it at that. It looks very bad on you to bash one
person to bring out another.
~Naera
In article <Qwux4.16588$Z5.2...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>,
Naera
portraits than he does.
"Raene" (a woman) that runs the Rathe site also charges 4 times what I
do, and she has been making portraits for MUCH longer than I have. I am
new to this, and my skills will grow.
Please just accept that different people have different tastes and
artists have different approaches to how they want to portray their
subjects. People are free to choose whichever one suits them most.
~Naera
In article <38C68083...@10thnet.net>,
Strongest of Druids <dr...@10thnet.net> wrote:
Naera
tactful and give objectionable criticism. Doing those things would
actually show that you have some maturity of your own.
The Rathe does almost exactly what I do. Wyndforge takes a different
approach to portraits. I do use added effects - so they aren't to your
liking? "Big deal"!
I do put a lot of thought into my portraits. The people who I've done
portraits for are very happy with them. They are the ones that "okay"
them, not you. They are the ones I have to please, not you. I do my
portraits to their liking. If that is what they want, that is what I
do. Some people like the "simplistic" type, others like busy pictures
with lots of colours. I have my own way of making portraits. If you
think mine are so bad, go and get yourself a copy of Photoshop and
let's see what you can do. Don't bash me before you step in my shoes
and see what I do.
During the next day or so I'm going to put up a "how to" on my site
just to show people like you how much work I actually do in my
portraits. Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason that it
looks like one picture is because it's meant to? Did you ever stop to
think that the reason it's simplistic is becuase that's the way the
person wanted it? Probably not.
I'm not charging an outrageous amount of money for my portraits because
I am in the learning stages. They're not going to be as good as they
could be, simply because I haven't had the experience that others have.
I could stoop as low as you did and make a personal attack on why you
call yourself a person, but I won't. I call myself an artist because to
me I create art, I create portraits, and I create happy customers. If
you don't think I'm good at what I do, fine, don't post here, don't
visit my site, and don't order anything. That's fine with me.
Next time you open you mouth and post about me being immature, you
should look in the mirror and decide if you're really the best judge of
maturity. It is quite low to flame someone for posting information on
a newgroup, asking how they could call themselves an artist.
Grow up first, then reply back with a mature and thought-out post that
has some sense to it. Flames are for people who talk with their mouth,
not their brain.
~Naera
In article <38C67F77...@10thnet.net>,
Strongest of Druids <dr...@10thnet.net> wrote:
> Talk about simplistic. You take a background and stick a player's
picture
> on top. Big deal. At least the other two sites are creative and
> original. They do use added little effects that make all the
difference.
> Your pictures look like you spent 5 minutes on them. I can't believe
> anyone would pay for these things. Try putting more thought into your
> "portraits." And until you stop just pasting a picture on top of
another
> one and calling it done, I would also stop calling yourself an artist.
>
> Just because you were so full of yourself for making what you thought
were
> awesome picutres and I took a shot at your ego should not make you
mad.
> You ranting on being criticized portrays you are being immature.
>
Dan Harmon
Strongest of Druids <dr...@10thnet.net> wrote in message
news:38C68083...@10thnet.net...
> If he only spends 15 minutes tinkering with built in options to his
> software, good for him. His looks much better than yours. He takes the
> extra time to make them look like "portraits."
I don't know why you felt inclined to attack her work...she didn't say
anything other than FACTS about Wynd's work. YOU attacked her with OPINION.
You really had no call to do it.
Personally, I prefer Wynd's, but that doesn't mean that I think Naera does
bad work...it's just not what floats MY boat...I can easily see why people
would prefer hers over Wynd's. *shrug*
Naera
I do owe you an appology for getting so bent out of shape in my last
post. I got defensive because of your personal attacks, and I stooped
just as low by attacking back. For that I am sorry.
Without all the emotional words in there, I meant to actually say the
following:
You may find my pictures simplistic, and if that's not the way that you
like them, then you should find someone else to do your portraits. If
you choose them over me becuase you like theirs better, that's
wonderful, becuase it is one more happy person.
I do spend a lot of time and put a great deal of thought into my
portraits. If you disagree, then I would recommend trying it yourself,
and seeing how difficult it can be. I will be posting up a how-to on
my site to show people just how much time and consideration I use in
making one portrait.
In judging me you should also keep in mind that I have not been doing
this very long, whereas Raene (of Rathe) has been doing it since Beta,
and Wyndforge has had more customers do "practice" on.
And in response to your not-so-mature comment about my not being an
artist, I *am* an artist. You may not like my art, but your opinion
doesn't make me less of an artist.
You made a comment about me getting upset and ranting about your
previous post, and I want to point out that you did the exact same
thing with your previous post. I am sorry for posting immaturely (my
previous reply), and at least I am mature enough to admit it, and
acknowledge when someone is owed an appology.
I wish you luck with your character(s). If you ever want a portrait
done, you may want to look me up again, and if you still don't like
what I do, then I would recommend going with either of the people you
mentioned (Raene and Wyndforge). They take a different approach to
portraits that some people might find more appealing.
Sincerely,
~Naera
Naera
just made I said a lot of harsh things becuase I was angry at this same
person, and you said what I really meant to say. :o)
~Naera
In article <b6wx4.84$u8....@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"Dan Harmon" <deha...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>
> I don't know why you felt inclined to attack her work...she didn't say
> anything other than FACTS about Wynd's work. YOU attacked her with
OPINION.
> You really had no call to do it.
>
> Personally, I prefer Wynd's, but that doesn't mean that I think Naera
does
> bad work...it's just not what floats MY boat...I can easily see why
people
> would prefer hers over Wynd's. *shrug*
>
>
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Dan Harmon
Sean <NO....@WILL.SEE.THIS> wrote in message
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Dan Harmon
Sean <NO....@WILL.SEE.THIS> wrote in message
> *yawn* I'm not going to install a 3rd party program to "surf" the web. It
> is the responsibility of the webmaster to eliminate any annoyance to the
> viewer or they'll lose traffic. It is that simple.
If you have a dialup modem, a 3rd party browsing software is a great idea.
Hell, even if you have cable, the software can come in handy...the one I
uses kills almost all banners as well as most pop-ups.
I hate pop-ups as much as you do, and I hope that she finds a less annoying
free host, but until website hosts start accepting plat instead of dollars,
I really don't understand why you're ragging on her for something she has
little control over.
>
> And technically, to be "in business" one needs to be paid. My friend does
> them for free.
Free for strangers? If so, ANY stranger, or the ones he picks & chooses?
Kay Anders
> *grin*
>
> Check out your competition: http://www.ReallySwell.com/art/default.html
>
> Frankly I think he does a much better job. Not just simple cut-and-paste.
> But hey! What do i know, im no artist.
I like how this guy's "arted up" the screen shots, but it's still not the
same... Naera integrates (not just C&P) char images into all-new
backgrounds, blending them perfectly. Wyndforge applies a few filters, his
signature, and a frame to give it a very nice "canvas" effect.
Both are nice and each present a different mood, but they're apples and
oranges. Naera's focus is on bringing out the character's personality;
Wyndforge is about taking a simple SS and turning it into a new, more classic
form.
Apples, oranges, and different talents.
Naera
that Surf In Peace program. Which one do you use, Dan?
I could impliment the banner adds, but as I said before, I like having
control over my HTML code, and I really dislike the idea of them
inserting code into my pages. I went with that option once, and it
messed up my pages, so I'm sticking with popups. Personally I'd prefer
closing a popup, or minimizing it over having ugly banners that have no
place in a page glaring at me. At least with the popups they're not
cluttering the look of the page itself.
~Naera
In article <bpwx4.115$u8....@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"Dan Harmon" <deha...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> If you have a dialup modem, a 3rd party browsing software is a great
idea.
> Hell, even if you have cable, the software can come in handy...the
one I
> uses kills almost all banners as well as most pop-ups.
>
> I hate pop-ups as much as you do, and I hope that she finds a less
annoying
> free host, but until website hosts start accepting plat instead of
dollars,
> I really don't understand why you're ragging on her for something she
has
> little control over.
> >
> > And technically, to be "in business" one needs to be paid. My
friend does
> > them for free.
>
> Free for strangers? If so, ANY stranger, or the ones he picks &
chooses?
>
>
--
Kay Anders
> Talk about simplistic. You take a background and stick a player's picture
> on top. Big deal.
YOU go do it as well as she does (and the other portrait folks do) and see how
simple it is. (Offer void if you're a pro-level designer, which 99.99% of the
populace is not.)
Naera
and figuring out how to duplicate it in Photoshop. It's not that hard,
but I can learn from him. We are two different artists, like you said,
and we can be compared in style, but not really in talent, since we
take two different roads to get to the same place.
~Naera
In article <38C69532...@red-star.net.hates.spam>,
k...@red-star.net.remove.this.part wrote:
> I like how this guy's "arted up" the screen shots, but it's still not
the
> same... Naera integrates (not just C&P) char images into all-new
> backgrounds, blending them perfectly. Wyndforge applies a few
filters, his
> signature, and a frame to give it a very nice "canvas" effect.
>
> Both are nice and each present a different mood, but they're apples
and
> oranges. Naera's focus is on bringing out the character's
personality;
> Wyndforge is about taking a simple SS and turning it into a new, more
classic
> form.
>
> Apples, oranges, and different talents.
>
>
--
Ratbert
with no advertising what so ever. Its free as well and i believe it offers
decent space. Lemme know before I go researching it. I use it for a few of
my customers sites. Get ahold of me if you wish..
--
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<Erollisi Marr>
Naera <cate...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Dan Harmon
Naera <cate...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I truely hate pop-ups as well, that is why I downloaded and installed
> that Surf In Peace program. Which one do you use, Dan?
I hate to admit it, but I can't remember. I now have frame relay at work,
and cable at home. The program I used is shareware that I ended up buying
(it was cheap though). The program tended to mess with legit links, and
didn't do enough to combat that DAMNED eqvault site.
Disclaimer: I DO go to eqvault. I HATE how slow it's gotten since they
added the .ign. in the address (even at cable speed it's annoying), and the
banners have ALWAYS been pigs. I wish the information wasn't as good as it
is...I wish someone who cared more about the VIEWER ran the site...but I
don't know of any, so I visit the site.
Diablo69
work, we are on different servers and we are meeting friday. I offered to
pay her 20 bux cauz honestly i really like her work
Maessa SoulDrainer
The Rathe
Naera <cate...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well excuse me for trying to be helpful! I wasn't telling you that you
> needed to install it just to browse my site - I just thought that you
> might want to know, since there are a LOT of sites out there with
> popups. If you can't acknowledge when someone is trying to be helpful,
> then it's not worth my time to try and help you.
>
> For your information, though, I do have offers to be PAID (in real
> money). And you get what you pay for - your friend does them for free,
> and IMO they're not as good as what I do. Obviously you disagree, but
> stop bashing me for what I like to do, and what other people like. If
> you want to draw more business to your friend's site, then just post
> the link and leave it at that. It looks very bad on you to bash one
> person to bring out another.
>
> ~Naera
>
> In article <Qwux4.16588$Z5.2...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>,
> "Sean" <NO....@WILL.SEE.THIS> wrote:
> > *yawn* I'm not going to install a 3rd party program to "surf" the
> web. It
> > is the responsibility of the webmaster to eliminate any annoyance to
> the
> > viewer or they'll lose traffic. It is that simple.
> >
> > And technically, to be "in business" one needs to be paid. My friend
> does
> > them for free.
> >
> > >> Is this what they call spam?
> > >>
> > >> By the way, I did go to your website and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET
> RID
> > >OF THE
> > >> FUCKING POPUPS!^%$%^#!&^
> > >>
> > >> Also, the images that I did sift through don't look that good. In
> > >fact, I
> > >> would have my buddy do mine for me:
> > >>
> > >> http://home.rochester.rr.com/jspoof/images
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Sean S. -:- ICQ: 1826323
> > >> Zap small files with Zap `Em - http://home.rochester.rr.com/zapem
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> > >> (Email: sunymoon <AT> GeoCities >DOT< com )
> > >> "I tell you, there's nothing we're afraid to nerf. :)" - Brad
> McQuaid;
> > >> Everquest Producer
> > >>
> > >
Strongest of Druids
everyone will like what you make and you have to learn to execpt that and
not fly off the handle. Art is made to be judged by others. If you didn't
want to be judged, then it was dumb to invite everyone to take a look at
your stuff. Again, I don't think your stuff is good at all, and I wouldn't
get one done by you. Actually, I wouldn't get one done by anyone because
paying plat or real money for something like that is dumb.
And next time don't post about how full of yourself you are and then maybe
someone won't try to burst your bubble. If it wasn't me first, then it
would just have been someone else.
Naera wrote:
> In article <38C67F77...@10thnet.net>,
> Strongest of Druids <dr...@10thnet.net> wrote:
> > Talk about simplistic. You take a background and stick a player's
> picture
> > on top. Big deal. At least the other two sites are creative and
> > original. They do use added little effects that make all the
> difference.
> > Your pictures look like you spent 5 minutes on them. I can't believe
> > anyone would pay for these things. Try putting more thought into your
> > "portraits." And until you stop just pasting a picture on top of
> another
> > one and calling it done, I would also stop calling yourself an artist.
> >
> > Just because you were so full of yourself for making what you thought
> were
> > awesome picutres and I took a shot at your ego should not make you
> mad.
> > You ranting on being criticized portrays you are being immature.
> >
Naera
I do know how to take criticism - perhaps it's you who needs to learn
how to write criticism? You should critique the work, not the person's
talents.
Personally, I think art is made for whatever reason the artists chooses
to create art. Some people create it because they absolutely love
photography, or painting, etc. Some people create it because they want
the money or fame. Some people create it as favours for people, or
because someone asks them to. And some, for a completely different
reason.
People display their artwork for multiple reasons, as well: for
information, for critique, to make more money, etc. There are many
different ways an artist works, so you can't really say that I am "this
way" or "that way", because you simply don't know.
I hang my work for information, and for a personal anthology of how
I've progressed.
Let me ask you something, though - if you saw an ad in the newspaper,
visited the store and didn't like what they sold, would you ask to see
the owner and rag them out about how poor of an owner they are, how
crappy their merchandise is, and then tell everyone within earshot
about another store that you thought was way better? I should hope not.
I suggest that you use the same tact and consideration for peoples'
hard work, as if I were a real person standing in front of you, and as
if my web site were a real store that you could stand in. Believe me,
if I had the power to, I would find a way to ban you from my site,
simple because if it was a RL store, I would have booted you out long
ago.
~Naera
--
What you see depends on what you are looking for.
In article <38C6ECEE...@10thnet.net>,
Strongest of Druids <dr...@10thnet.net> wrote:
> Well, if what you are making is "art" then learn how to take
criticism. Not
> everyone will like what you make and you have to learn to execpt that
and
> not fly off the handle. Art is made to be judged by others. If you
didn't
> want to be judged, then it was dumb to invite everyone to take a look
at
> your stuff. Again, I don't think your stuff is good at all, and I
wouldn't
> get one done by you. Actually, I wouldn't get one done by anyone
because
> paying plat or real money for something like that is dumb.
>
> And next time don't post about how full of yourself you are and then
maybe
> someone won't try to burst your bubble. If it wasn't me first, then
it
> would just have been someone else.
>
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Dan Harmon wrote in message ...
>
>Sean <NO....@WILL.SEE.THIS> wrote in message
>news:Qwux4.16588$Z5.2...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...
>> *yawn* I'm not going to install a 3rd party program to "surf" the web.
It
>> is the responsibility of the webmaster to eliminate any annoyance to the
>> viewer or they'll lose traffic. It is that simple.
>
>If you have a dialup modem, a 3rd party browsing software is a great idea.
>Hell, even if you have cable, the software can come in handy...the one I
>uses kills almost all banners as well as most pop-ups.
>
>I hate pop-ups as much as you do, and I hope that she finds a less annoying
>free host, but until website hosts start accepting plat instead of dollars,
>I really don't understand why you're ragging on her for something she has
>little control over.
>>
>> And technically, to be "in business" one needs to be paid. My friend
does
>> them for free.
>
Sean
sucks and the art isn't "that good."
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Dan Harmon wrote in message ...
>"Not good" is your opinion. I don't happen to agree.
>
>Sean <NO....@WILL.SEE.THIS> wrote in message
>news:e1kx4.16204$Z5.2...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...
Dan Harmon
turn to say that you are, indeed, entitled to your opinion, but I disagree?
Then you can come back & say that that is, indeed, my opinion, but it ISN'T
that good?
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Naera
Now that we know your respective opinions, let's leave it rest, k? heh
Or you can keep going and see how many replies this thing can have!
*grins*
~Naera
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In article <ifOx4.2454$qa.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"Dan Harmon" <deha...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I know. You already said that. That's why I responded. Is it
my
> turn to say that you are, indeed, entitled to your opinion, but I
disagree?
> Then you can come back & say that that is, indeed, my opinion, but it
ISN'T
> that good?
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