HOLY FUCK. Enix & Square merge
TvSurf
could this be much awaited Megaton annoucment?
assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
putting my Nintendo fan-boy hat on for a sec (I'm a Sega fan at heart)
Nintendo needs to acquire Enix-Square immediately or at least buy a
controlling interest... to make up for the loss of Rare ^__^
never saw that one comin' huh?
SNEED
but then I got to thinking. What does that really do for us the gamers?
Maybe it was a dream of mine or something but I could have swore that Square
and EA joined forces. Did that ever happen or am I out of my mind? If that
did happen, it hasn't showed. It hasn't effected any games that I know of.
So this teaming up thing could just be for financial reasons we don't know
about but we'll see how it turns out.
sneed
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Mike KHIM
America... That's all... They didn't make any games together or anything
like that...
Now, this Enix and Square thing is totally different. They are merging into
one company and they (or it) will make games as one company...
Personally, I think Square is getting punished for sidestepping from a good
old RPG making formula... all those inclusion of CGs, coming up with weird
battle systems, etc., What's up with Final Fantasy X-2? Have you looked how
Yuna and Riku are dressed in that game? They look like characters from Dead
Or Alive or Tomb Raider... totally not RPG characters... it's a very cheap
way to copy and use every last bit of fame of a game that's already been
published years ago (FF X)...
Square's RPGs these days aren't what RPG we used to know at SNES days...
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Jedah And Sonans
ageru ga alt.games.video.nintendo.gamecube no naseke!
If this new combined company is going to dedicate itself mainly to one
console/company, that console/company = teh winner in Japan, no
questions asked.
Unless it's X-Box - that thing couldn't win in Japan with all the
Final Dragon Fantasy Quest games in the world.
^_^
Jordan Lund
What did Enix do again?
- Jordan
getting kevin j
Dragon Warrior (Quest) series were their big titles.
Pluto (M)
Doubt it.
> assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
>
> putting my Nintendo fan-boy hat on for a sec (I'm a Sega fan at heart)
> Nintendo needs to acquire Enix-Square immediately or at least buy a
> controlling interest... to make up for the loss of Rare ^__^
Nintendo doesn't buy game companies. And why would they sell a controlling
interest to ANYONE? They're in a position to exploit this whole deal themselves.
getting kevin j
> "TvSurf" <suburb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > http://gamers.com/news/1274383
> >
> > could this be much awaited Megaton annoucment?
>
> Doubt it.
Square + Enix = new Japanese religion
It is that big.
> > assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
> >
> > putting my Nintendo fan-boy hat on for a sec (I'm a Sega fan at heart)
> > Nintendo needs to acquire Enix-Square immediately or at least buy a
> > controlling interest... to make up for the loss of Rare ^__^
>
> Nintendo doesn't buy game companies. And why would they sell a controlling
> interest to ANYONE? They're in a position to exploit this whole deal themselves.
Except for Sony, who already has an investment in Square last I heard.
Pluto (M)
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> On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Pluto (M) wrote:
>
> > "TvSurf" <suburb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:d2150f91.02112...@posting.google.com...
> > > http://gamers.com/news/1274383
> > >
> > > could this be much awaited Megaton annoucment?
> >
> > Doubt it.
>
> Square + Enix = new Japanese religion
> It is that big.
But it's not a /Nintendo/ announcement.
> > > assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
> > >
> > > putting my Nintendo fan-boy hat on for a sec (I'm a Sega fan at heart)
> > > Nintendo needs to acquire Enix-Square immediately or at least buy a
> > > controlling interest... to make up for the loss of Rare ^__^
> >
> > Nintendo doesn't buy game companies. And why would they sell a controlling
> > interest to ANYONE? They're in a position to exploit this whole deal
themselves.
>
> Except for Sony, who already has an investment in Square last I heard.
Twenty percent, which is going down to 8.4 percent when the merger is complete.
Inu-Yasha
Fools to me. If I were Square Soft, I would merge with Capcom. ^_^
Inu-Yasha
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Alexander Mendes
You know...Dragon Quest alone would probably be able to turn things
around for MS in Japan. Not only would it attract gamers, but it would
also be a huge show of confidence by Enix, which would probably sway
other companies. It wouldn't be able to beat out thwe PS2, but it would
certainly geet them far above their current pathetic sales.
Pluto (M)
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<snip>
> Did anyone note the date of the merger? April 1st?? Sounds like April
> Fools to me. If I were Square Soft, I would merge with Capcom. ^_^
It's actually a very logical time to complete the merger. It /began/ today and
will be done April 1st. The Fiscal Year ends on March 31st. Thus, Enix Square
will be open for business on the first day of the next fiscal year.
crossbone
(TvSurf) wrote:
Note: it's not a merger, Enix bought Square. However Square's CEO will remain
CEO of the new company.
>assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
How? Isn't Enix exclusive with Sony, or has this changed with the PS2/GC?
>never saw that one comin' huh?
Not with Enix, but with all their money problems, I figured Square would
eventually be bought.
Kevin Sullivan
wrote:
>Let it be known that on 26 Nov 2002 00:10:11 -0800, suburb...@hotmail.com
>(TvSurf) wrote:
>
>Note: it's not a merger, Enix bought Square. However Square's CEO will remain
>CEO of the new company.
It's still a merger. The company will be called Square-Enix and the
current president of Square will be President of Square-Enix...
>>assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
>
>How? Isn't Enix exclusive with Sony, or has this changed with the PS2/GC?
Enix isn't exclusive to Sony by contract. Rumors are suggesting that
Dragon Quest VIII will be a GameCube exclusive...
Balthasar
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Highly unlikely if the point of the merger was to actually make money (which
they claim it was). It would be stupid /not/ to put the game on at least the
PS2.
Balthasar
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Gene Poole
>
> getting kevin j <gett...@washburn.edu> rhapsodized in blue:
>
> >On 26 Nov 2002, Jordan Lund wrote:
> >
> >> suburb...@hotmail.com (TvSurf) wrote in message news:<d2150f91.02112...@posting.google.com>...
> >> > http://gamers.com/news/1274383
> >> >
> >> > could this be much awaited Megaton annoucment?
> >> >
> >> > assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
> >> >
> >> > putting my Nintendo fan-boy hat on for a sec (I'm a Sega fan at heart)
> >> > Nintendo needs to acquire Enix-Square immediately or at least buy a
> >> > controlling interest... to make up for the loss of Rare ^__^
> >> >
> >> > never saw that one comin' huh?
> >>
> >> What did Enix do again?
> >
> >Dragon Warrior (Quest) series were their big titles.
>
> Plus the Star Ocean games... Valkyrie Profile...
hey I know you.
get out of my newsgroup :)
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John D. Ford
wrote:
>
>"Kevin Sullivan" <ke...@beestung.net> wrote in message
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>> On 26 Nov 2002 23:09:12 -0600, crossbone <cros...@crossbone.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Let it be known that on 26 Nov 2002 00:10:11 -0800,
>suburb...@hotmail.com
>> >(TvSurf) wrote:
>> >
>> >Note: it's not a merger, Enix bought Square. However Square's CEO will
>remain
>> >CEO of the new company.
>>
>> It's still a merger. The company will be called Square-Enix and the
>> current president of Square will be President of Square-Enix...
>>
>> >>assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
>> >
>> >How? Isn't Enix exclusive with Sony, or has this changed with the
>PS2/GC?
>>
>> Enix isn't exclusive to Sony by contract. Rumors are suggesting that
>> Dragon Quest VIII will be a GameCube exclusive...
>
>Highly unlikely if the point of the merger was to actually make money (which
>they claim it was). It would be stupid /not/ to put the game on at least the
>PS2.
Agreed. Unless, of course, they are confident they can make the GC
number one based solely on Dragon Quest. Which is not outside the
realm of possibility. Plus, it's a safe bet that huge chunks of
change will be offered to Enix Square on behalf of all the console
manufacturers to get DQ8 exclusively. Microsoft can afford to offer
more than anyone else, but the question is: will they?
Jonathan Timar
"crossbone" <cros...@crossbone.com> wrote in message
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> Let it be known that on 26 Nov 2002 00:10:11 -0800,
suburb...@hotmail.com
> (TvSurf) wrote:
>
> Note: it's not a merger, Enix bought Square. However Square's CEO will
remain
> CEO of the new company.
Yo, kucklehead, that is what a merger is, one company buys another with an
agreement to merge operations.
Laura M. Parkinson
>"Laura M. Parkinson" wrote:
>>
>> getting kevin j <gett...@washburn.edu> rhapsodized in blue:
>> >> What did Enix do again?
>> >
>> >Dragon Warrior (Quest) series were their big titles.
>>
>> Plus the Star Ocean games... Valkyrie Profile...
>
>hey I know you.
>
>get out of my newsgroup :)
*bap*
Don't be possessive. ;)
Gene Poole
>
> Gene Poole <pool...@yahoo.com> rhapsodized in blue:
>
> >"Laura M. Parkinson" wrote:
> >>
> >> getting kevin j <gett...@washburn.edu> rhapsodized in blue:
>
> >> >> What did Enix do again?
> >> >
> >> >Dragon Warrior (Quest) series were their big titles.
> >>
> >> Plus the Star Ocean games... Valkyrie Profile...
> >
> >hey I know you.
> >
> >get out of my newsgroup :)
>
> *bap*
bap??
you dare bap me??
>
> Don't be possessive. ;)
*pouts* but I ~wannnnnnnna~!
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never know.
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Quester John
>
> "Laura M. Parkinson" wrote:
> >
> > Gene Poole <pool...@yahoo.com> rhapsodized in blue:
> >
> > >"Laura M. Parkinson" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> getting kevin j <gett...@washburn.edu> rhapsodized in blue:
> >
> > >> >> What did Enix do again?
> > >> >
> > >> >Dragon Warrior (Quest) series were their big titles.
> > >>
> > >> Plus the Star Ocean games... Valkyrie Profile...
> > >
> > >hey I know you.
> > >
> > >get out of my newsgroup :)
> >
> > *bap*
>
> bap??
>
> you dare bap me??
Well, I know I wouldn't.
::kicks gene in what remains of his testicles::
hee hee hee!
Danoot
Gene Poole
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> "TvSurf" <suburb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d2150f91.02112...@posting.google.com...
> > http://gamers.com/news/1274383
> >
> > could this be much awaited Megaton annoucment?
> >
> > assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
> >
> > putting my Nintendo fan-boy hat on for a sec (I'm a Sega fan at heart)
> > Nintendo needs to acquire Enix-Square immediately or at least buy a
> > controlling interest... to make up for the loss of Rare ^__^
> >
> > never saw that one comin' huh?
> >
> Did anyone note the date of the merger? April 1st?? Sounds like April
> Fools to me. If I were Square Soft, I would merge with Capcom. ^_^
It could be considered an April Fools had the announcement been made on
April 1st.
ma...@attcanada.ca
> Microsoft, might by the newly merged company. With resources like that, you
> never know.
Microsoft can't just buy a company on a whim, otherwise it would be a hostile
takeover. It would have to be agreed upon by all parties involved, and since
the Xbox isn't exactly the most popular in Japan, I doubt either Square or Enix
would consider such a buy-out.
ma...@attcanada.ca
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/378/378943p1.html
According to the article, Dragon Quest VIII will be on PS2. There is no mention of
a Gamecube release just yet, but there is a Game Boy Advance Dragon Quest game in
development.
Maverick
something. Squaresoft has been my favorite developer for the longest time
now, I just hope this doesn't screw things up. Hopefully Square will still
bring us strong RPG titles like Final Fantasy and Chrono Chross. ^_^
Max Lords
themselves keep degenerating. Bleah. I stopped liking Square when they
made the jump to PSX (although I did like a handful of PSX Square games like
Vagrant Story, FFT, and Xenogears). Enix is a great company though, and I'm
sure if they DID get bought, which is unlikely since they had the money to
buy a lot of Square, than any company that bought them would give them
creative freedom to cintinue to make great niche titles.
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Jonathan McArthur
were not enough for Max Lords!"
> Um....since when is FF a strong title? Sure...it SELLS well, but the
> games themselves keep degenerating. Bleah. I stopped liking Square
> when they made the jump to PSX (although I did like a handful of PSX
> Square games like Vagrant Story, FFT, and Xenogears). Enix is a
> great company though, and I'm sure if they DID get bought, which is
> unlikely since they had the money to buy a lot of Square, than any
> company that bought them would give them creative freedom to cintinue
> to make great niche titles.
Vagrant Story, eh? I dunno... boxes stopped being fun some time when I
was a kid.
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> Um....since when is FF a strong title? Sure...it SELLS well, but the
games
> themselves keep degenerating. Bleah. I stopped liking Square when they
> made the jump to PSX (although I did like a handful of PSX Square games
like
> Vagrant Story, FFT, and Xenogears). Enix is a great company though, and
I'm
> sure if they DID get bought, which is unlikely since they had the money to
> buy a lot of Square, than any company that bought them would give them
> creative freedom to cintinue to make great niche titles.
ie, "CHANGE FRIGHTENS AND DISGUSTS ME"
- Steve
Rob Browning
<dynamit...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>Vagrant Story, eh? I dunno... boxes stopped being fun some time when I
>was a kid.
*rimshot*
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>
> could this be much awaited Megaton annoucment?
>
> assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
>
> putting my Nintendo fan-boy hat on for a sec (I'm a Sega fan at heart)
> Nintendo needs to acquire Enix-Square immediately or at least buy a
> controlling interest... to make up for the loss of Rare ^__^
>
> never saw that one comin' huh?
You are now on my kill file for your inappropriate subject line "holy f**"
A complaint has been sent to your newsgroup provider also.
John Salerno
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how lame...
Gene Poole
since when is profanity a TOS violation?
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>You are now on my kill file for your inappropriate subject line "holy f**"
>
>A complaint has been sent to your newsgroup provider also.
Fuck you, netKKKop.
Joe Ottoson
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> I'm just praying that Microsoft doesn't come along and buy Enix or
> something.
They couldn't even buy influence with Square. Now they're going to
magically snap up an even larger, more powerful company?
Wendi Wion
assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
putting my Nintendo fan-boy hat on for a sec (I'm a Sega fan at heart)
Nintendo needs to acquire Enix-Square immediately or at least buy a
controlling interest... to make up for the loss of Rare ^__^
never saw that one comin' huh?-----assuming nintendos involved...how?
Jonathan McArthur
deaths were not enough for Wendi Wion!"
Why would you assume that Nintendo has anything to do with the merger?
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Balthasar
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> "Wendi Wion! Wendi Wion! Wendi Wion!" goes the refrain. "A million
> deaths were not enough for Wendi Wion!"
> > could this be much awaited Megaton annoucment?
> >
> > assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
> >
> > putting my Nintendo fan-boy hat on for a sec (I'm a Sega fan at heart)
> > Nintendo needs to acquire Enix-Square immediately or at least buy a
> > controlling interest... to make up for the loss of Rare ^__^
> >
> > never saw that one comin' huh?-----assuming nintendos involved...how?
>
> Why would you assume that Nintendo has anything to do with the merger?
This thread is still alive? That's odd.
http://www.gamers.com/news/1303598
That's the sound of Nintendo with their tail firmly between their legs,
licking their wounds.
Shadow
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>
> "Jonathan McArthur" <dynamit...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
> news:gypZ9.2513$7O1.5...@news02.tsnz.net...
> > "Wendi Wion! Wendi Wion! Wendi Wion!" goes the refrain. "A million
> > deaths were not enough for Wendi Wion!"
> > > could this be much awaited Megaton annoucment?
> > >
> > > assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
> > >
> > > putting my Nintendo fan-boy hat on for a sec (I'm a Sega fan at heart)
> > > Nintendo needs to acquire Enix-Square immediately or at least buy a
> > > controlling interest... to make up for the loss of Rare ^__^
> > >
> > > never saw that one comin' huh?-----assuming nintendos involved...how?
> >
> > Why would you assume that Nintendo has anything to do with the merger?
>
> This thread is still alive? That's odd.
>
> http://www.gamers.com/news/1303598
>
> That's the sound of Nintendo with their tail firmly between their legs,
> licking their wounds.
>
Then Microsoft must've really been hurting when they announced Xbox 2, seeing as
they also had to downgrade their sales expectations and had to report they
weren't going to make a profit till god knows when.
Alexander Mendes
"Wendi Wion" <j...@netpluscom.com> wrote:
> could this be much awaited Megaton annoucment?
No.
> assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
They aren't, as far as anyone knows. Sony is involved, in a limited
way, due to their stake in Square. But basicvally, this is a merger
that the two companies decided on independeant of any outside companies.
Rob Browning
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>
>"Jonathan McArthur" <dynamit...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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>> "Wendi Wion! Wendi Wion! Wendi Wion!" goes the refrain. "A million
>> deaths were not enough for Wendi Wion!"
>> > could this be much awaited Megaton annoucment?
>> >
>> > assuming Nintendo is somehow involved in this.
>> >
>> > putting my Nintendo fan-boy hat on for a sec (I'm a Sega fan at heart)
>> > Nintendo needs to acquire Enix-Square immediately or at least buy a
>> > controlling interest... to make up for the loss of Rare ^__^
>> >
>> > never saw that one comin' huh?-----assuming nintendos involved...how?
>>
>> Why would you assume that Nintendo has anything to do with the merger?
>
>This thread is still alive? That's odd.
>
>http://www.gamers.com/news/1303598
>
>That's the sound of Nintendo with their tail firmly between their legs,
>licking their wounds.
"The announcement followed a press conference in which Iwata reported
that GameCube sales for the past year had fallen over ten percent
short of their projected ten million units. Further, that software
sales would 'fall short' of the company's 55 million unit goal,
although he would not give numbers."
That's what happens when almost all of your games aren't worth buying
the system for. Look at what happened to the Dreamcast, or the N64
for that matter.
"Although Nintendo is hanging onto the number two spot worldwide, this
is entirely thanks to a strong second place share of Japan -- GameCube
is running in third place behind Xbox in both the U.S. and now Europe.
In fact, Xbox had its strongest sales ever in the U.S. this December,
up 43% over the previous high-water mark when the console launched in
November, 2001, and seeing an 80% increase in software sales -- the
same period, need we point out, during which Nintendo admits to
falling short. Indeed, Iwata's failure to make any mention of Xbox
during the interview is curious, to say the least."
Not really. I'll be surprised if I ever see a Japanese businessman
admit that he's losing to a stupid American.
Rob
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James T.
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> Then Microsoft must've really been hurting when they
> announced Xbox 2, seeing as they also had to downgrade
> their sales expectations and had to report they weren't
> going to make a profit till god knows when.
In all fairness, Sony annouced their next console also. Hell,
they already copy righted the fucking name and logo for it.
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I AM FROM 10 YEARS IN THE FUTURE. THIS MERGER HAS BEEN THE WORST THING TO HAPPEN TO JRPG'S IN THE HISTORY OF VIDEO GAMES. THIS NEW COMPANY NEVER PRODUCED ANOTHER GOOD GAME, IN FACT THEY MADE A SUPER SHITTY GAME, FINAL FANTASY 13, THAT LITERALLY AUTOBATTLES THE GAME FOR YOU.... AND THIS GAME GOT TWO (2) SEQUELS.
THE FUTURE IS DARK.
THAT IS ALL