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Toby Newman
Jan 31, 2012, 5:13:44 PM1/31/12
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Playing Oblivion for the first time.
After spending a night in an inn I've succumbed to vampirism.
It seems that now I can't travel during daylight hours and no-one will
talk to me. Fair enough, you play with the cards you're dealt.
However, it does seem to have made the game into a bit of a pain to
play. I can't sell anything in the shops, I can't get training, and
I'm forever pressing T to wait until night before I can leave buildings.
What are the perks to this affliction, exactly? It seems like a
massive bind at the moment, but I guess there must be something good
about it that I've not noticed yet, or they wouldn't have put it in
the game?
--
-Toby
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After spending a night in an inn I've succumbed to vampirism.
It seems that now I can't travel during daylight hours and no-one will
talk to me. Fair enough, you play with the cards you're dealt.
However, it does seem to have made the game into a bit of a pain to
play. I can't sell anything in the shops, I can't get training, and
I'm forever pressing T to wait until night before I can leave buildings.
What are the perks to this affliction, exactly? It seems like a
massive bind at the moment, but I guess there must be something good
about it that I've not noticed yet, or they wouldn't have put it in
the game?
--
-Toby
Add the word afiduluminag to the subject to circumvent my email filters.
Jonathan Ellis
Jan 31, 2012, 7:03:31 PM1/31/12
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"Toby Newman" <goo...@asktoby.com> wrote in message
news:slrnjigpso...@asktoby.eternal-september.org...
> Playing Oblivion for the first time.
>
> After spending a night in an inn I've succumbed to vampirism.
> It seems that now I can't travel during daylight hours and no-one will
> talk to me. Fair enough, you play with the cards you're dealt.
>
> However, it does seem to have made the game into a bit of a pain to
> play. I can't sell anything in the shops, I can't get training, and
> I'm forever pressing T to wait until night before I can leave buildings.
>
> What are the perks to this affliction, exactly? It seems like a
> massive bind at the moment, but I guess there must be something good
> about it that I've not noticed yet, or they wouldn't have put it in
> the game?
It's supposed to be a problem, not a solution - and it's one that there is a
>
> After spending a night in an inn I've succumbed to vampirism.
> It seems that now I can't travel during daylight hours and no-one will
> talk to me. Fair enough, you play with the cards you're dealt.
>
> However, it does seem to have made the game into a bit of a pain to
> play. I can't sell anything in the shops, I can't get training, and
> I'm forever pressing T to wait until night before I can leave buildings.
>
> What are the perks to this affliction, exactly? It seems like a
> massive bind at the moment, but I guess there must be something good
> about it that I've not noticed yet, or they wouldn't have put it in
> the game?
quest to get rid of. Go talk to people in the Mages Guild Arcane
University - they may point you in the direction of a certain other vampire
in the game. A guy who, in fact, isn't a bad sort at all - who may know
someone that may be able to help.
Also, do you have a horse? That can at least help out with fast travel.
And there are night-time shops that you can visit. Not many, mind you, but
at least one lurks *outside* the walls of Imperial City.
Also: Had you acted early enough, vampirism is very avoidable. Just cast
Cure Disease or get to a wayshrine or temple altar within 72 hours of
contracting Porphyric Hemophilia, and it was eminently curable. Obviously
it's too late for you now...
-- Jonathan.
PW
Jan 31, 2012, 10:24:28 PM1/31/12
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:13:44 +0000, Toby Newman <goo...@asktoby.com>
wrote:
>Playing Oblivion for the first time.
>
>After spending a night in an inn I've succumbed to vampirism.
>It seems that now I can't travel during daylight hours and no-one will
>talk to me. Fair enough, you play with the cards you're dealt.
>
>However, it does seem to have made the game into a bit of a pain to
>play. I can't sell anything in the shops, I can't get training, and
>I'm forever pressing T to wait until night before I can leave buildings.
>
>What are the perks to this affliction, exactly? It seems like a
>massive bind at the moment, but I guess there must be something good
>about it that I've not noticed yet, or they wouldn't have put it in
>the game?
What a riot! I don't remember ever having the choice to be a Vampire.
Interesting!
wrote:
>Playing Oblivion for the first time.
>
>After spending a night in an inn I've succumbed to vampirism.
>It seems that now I can't travel during daylight hours and no-one will
>talk to me. Fair enough, you play with the cards you're dealt.
>
>However, it does seem to have made the game into a bit of a pain to
>play. I can't sell anything in the shops, I can't get training, and
>I'm forever pressing T to wait until night before I can leave buildings.
>
>What are the perks to this affliction, exactly? It seems like a
>massive bind at the moment, but I guess there must be something good
>about it that I've not noticed yet, or they wouldn't have put it in
>the game?
Interesting!
Toby Newman
Feb 1, 2012, 5:31:20 AM2/1/12
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On 2012-02-01, Jonathan Ellis <jle3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Toby Newman" <goo...@asktoby.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnjigpso...@asktoby.eternal-september.org...
>> Playing Oblivion for the first time.
>>
>> After spending a night in an inn I've succumbed to vampirism.
>> It seems that now I can't travel during daylight hours and no-one will
>> talk to me. Fair enough, you play with the cards you're dealt.
>>
>> However, it does seem to have made the game into a bit of a pain to
>> play. I can't sell anything in the shops, I can't get training, and
>> I'm forever pressing T to wait until night before I can leave buildings.
>>
>> What are the perks to this affliction, exactly? It seems like a
>> massive bind at the moment, but I guess there must be something good
>> about it that I've not noticed yet, or they wouldn't have put it in
>> the game?
>
> It's supposed to be a problem, not a solution - and it's one that there is a
> quest to get rid of. Go talk to people in the Mages Guild Arcane
> University - they may point you in the direction of a certain other vampire
> in the game. A guy who, in fact, isn't a bad sort at all - who may know
> someone that may be able to help.
I do wonder how I would be expected to find this out on my own. I
>
> "Toby Newman" <goo...@asktoby.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnjigpso...@asktoby.eternal-september.org...
>> Playing Oblivion for the first time.
>>
>> After spending a night in an inn I've succumbed to vampirism.
>> It seems that now I can't travel during daylight hours and no-one will
>> talk to me. Fair enough, you play with the cards you're dealt.
>>
>> However, it does seem to have made the game into a bit of a pain to
>> play. I can't sell anything in the shops, I can't get training, and
>> I'm forever pressing T to wait until night before I can leave buildings.
>>
>> What are the perks to this affliction, exactly? It seems like a
>> massive bind at the moment, but I guess there must be something good
>> about it that I've not noticed yet, or they wouldn't have put it in
>> the game?
>
> It's supposed to be a problem, not a solution - and it's one that there is a
> quest to get rid of. Go talk to people in the Mages Guild Arcane
> University - they may point you in the direction of a certain other vampire
> in the game. A guy who, in fact, isn't a bad sort at all - who may know
> someone that may be able to help.
walked around talking to people I met, hoping to get a dialogue line:
"I think I am ill, is there a doctor or something around here?"
but it never showed up.
> Also, do you have a horse? That can at least help out with fast travel.
> And there are night-time shops that you can visit. Not many, mind you, but
> at least one lurks *outside* the walls of Imperial City.
> Also: Had you acted early enough, vampirism is very avoidable. Just cast
> Cure Disease or get to a wayshrine or temple altar within 72 hours of
> contracting Porphyric Hemophilia, and it was eminently curable. Obviously
> it's too late for you now...
did not have time to talk to everyone in it to find this information
out before my affliction was established.
It almost seems designed to make you run the game with Google in a
second window!
Craig Coope
Feb 1, 2012, 6:02:52 AM2/1/12
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>Playing Oblivion for the first time.
>
>After spending a night in an inn I've succumbed to vampirism.
>It seems that now I can't travel during daylight hours and no-one will
>talk to me. Fair enough, you play with the cards you're dealt.
>
>However, it does seem to have made the game into a bit of a pain to
>play. I can't sell anything in the shops, I can't get training, and
>I'm forever pressing T to wait until night before I can leave buildings.
>
>What are the perks to this affliction, exactly? It seems like a
>massive bind at the moment, but I guess there must be something good
>about it that I've not noticed yet, or they wouldn't have put it in
>the game?
If you "feed" as a Vampire it turns you back to a more human state for
>
>After spending a night in an inn I've succumbed to vampirism.
>It seems that now I can't travel during daylight hours and no-one will
>talk to me. Fair enough, you play with the cards you're dealt.
>
>However, it does seem to have made the game into a bit of a pain to
>play. I can't sell anything in the shops, I can't get training, and
>I'm forever pressing T to wait until night before I can leave buildings.
>
>What are the perks to this affliction, exactly? It seems like a
>massive bind at the moment, but I guess there must be something good
>about it that I've not noticed yet, or they wouldn't have put it in
>the game?
a few days so that you can spend more time out in the day and IIRC you
can talk to people.
Also the quest to cure it is a total PITA!
--
The Zero ST
William McNee
Feb 1, 2012, 11:14:29 AM2/1/12
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be one if you talk to someone in the DB although I never went and did
that, so no idea what the effects of being a vampire are.
I wonder if Christopher Lee, on playing the game, would have picked
being a vampire...:)
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Jonathan Ellis
Feb 1, 2012, 12:15:04 PM2/1/12
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You're supposed to notice, it appears in big writing on the top of the
screen right away when you get it, "You have contracted Porphyric
Hemophilia", which is an event that may happen while fighting an opponent
who is a clearly designated Vampire, or has been named as one.
And then think: "Ooo, I have some kind of disease. I ought to go and cure it
as soon as possible" (having been taught that wayshrines, temples and altars
are good ways of curing diseases, and there are potions and spells that do
it too.) Instead of wandering around for so long afterwards without curing
it, that you go three whole game days.
(After all - other diseases are debilitating. Wouldn't you go and cure them
as soon as possible, too? Yellow Tick, Brain Rot, Astral Vapors...)
If you "sleep" during this time - instead of "waiting" - you will get
increasingly disturbing dreams about blood and death, but it won't be too
late to turn back yet. That's another warning that Something Is Badly Wrong.
I also made the mistake of ignoring the disease for over 72 hours of game
time, and not Resting during that time (I didn't level up). So the next time
I rested it was too late and I became a vampire: even Cure Disease has no
effect after the 72-hour window...
...So I had to find the cure instead. Which is a somewhat involved and
annoyingly longish quest.
-- Jonathan.
screen right away when you get it, "You have contracted Porphyric
Hemophilia", which is an event that may happen while fighting an opponent
who is a clearly designated Vampire, or has been named as one.
And then think: "Ooo, I have some kind of disease. I ought to go and cure it
as soon as possible" (having been taught that wayshrines, temples and altars
are good ways of curing diseases, and there are potions and spells that do
it too.) Instead of wandering around for so long afterwards without curing
it, that you go three whole game days.
(After all - other diseases are debilitating. Wouldn't you go and cure them
as soon as possible, too? Yellow Tick, Brain Rot, Astral Vapors...)
If you "sleep" during this time - instead of "waiting" - you will get
increasingly disturbing dreams about blood and death, but it won't be too
late to turn back yet. That's another warning that Something Is Badly Wrong.
I also made the mistake of ignoring the disease for over 72 hours of game
time, and not Resting during that time (I didn't level up). So the next time
I rested it was too late and I became a vampire: even Cure Disease has no
effect after the 72-hour window...
...So I had to find the cure instead. Which is a somewhat involved and
annoyingly longish quest.
-- Jonathan.
Toby Newman
Feb 1, 2012, 6:20:00 PM2/1/12
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inn.
> And then think: "Ooo, I have some kind of disease. I ought to go and cure it
> as soon as possible" (having been taught that wayshrines, temples and altars
> are good ways of curing diseases, and there are potions and spells that do
> it too.) Instead of wandering around for so long afterwards without curing
> it, that you go three whole game days.
>
I've no idea what a wayshrine is, let alone that it could cure me! I
remember seeing an altar in the church in Kvatch now you mention it.
My expectation was that I would be able to find a physician.
> (After all - other diseases are debilitating. Wouldn't you go and cure them
> as soon as possible, too? Yellow Tick, Brain Rot, Astral Vapors...)
>
> If you "sleep" during this time - instead of "waiting" - you will get
> increasingly disturbing dreams about blood and death, but it won't be too
> late to turn back yet. That's another warning that Something Is Badly Wrong.
>
> I also made the mistake of ignoring the disease for over 72 hours of game
> time, and not Resting during that time (I didn't level up). So the next time
> I rested it was too late and I became a vampire: even Cure Disease has no
> effect after the 72-hour window...
Masquerade: Bloodlines, in which vampirism is a boon that comes with a
plethora of abilities. My honest expectation was that it could turn
out to be a good thing in Oblivion, perhaps giving me an edge in
combat.
> ...So I had to find the cure instead. Which is a somewhat involved and
> annoyingly longish quest.
toe in the quest to be healed but I don't much fancy it from what I've
heard!
David
Feb 2, 2012, 3:45:45 AM2/2/12
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On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 23:20:00 +0000, Toby Newman <goo...@asktoby.com>
wrote:
This will cover most of your queries.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Vampirism
wrote:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Vampirism
Toby Newman
Feb 2, 2012, 4:20:25 AM2/2/12
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Jonathan Ellis
Feb 2, 2012, 10:48:44 PM2/2/12
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news:slrnjiji50...@asktoby.eternal-september.org...
No, there are no vampires that go around feeding on people in inns in their
sleep.
You must have somehow gotten Porphyric Hemophilia from a combat with a
vampire, considerably *earlier*, without realising it - over 72 game hours
previously (not real-hours - that's 3 game days, which can pass in a
surprisingly fast amount of real time while fast-travelling) - and then did
not sleep at an inn, or anywhere else, for 72 hours. Nor make any attempt to
cure a disease, nor pray at an altar or wayshrine, in that time.
At which point, when you slept in a bed (not knowing you'd caught a disease
over 3 game days ago), you were already too far "gone" to get the "warning"
dreams. Which, yes, may take the form of dreaming of a vampire feeding on
you - or of BEING the vampire - and, instead, skipped straight to the dream
at which your "Porphyric Hemophilia" converts to full-blown "Vampirism".
That's how you get vampirism. It's the ONLY way, unless you complete the
Dark Brotherhood quest line far enough to the point where it's offered to
you as a "gift". But if you're doing that, you're already evil enough that
you'll be deliberately wanting to feed on victims and know exactly what
you're doing when you do it.
the catch is that when you first catch the disease in question, it's NOT
called vampirism, it's only called Porphyric Hemophilia, and while it's in
THIS stage, it's curable. Unfortunately it's also very, very easy to not
notice it, since it has remarkably few side-effects in-game (I believe only
a tiny lowering of your maximum Fatigue level.) Once the disease changes its
name to Vampirism - while you're sleeping in a bed - it's (a) been over
three game days, and (b) is already too late for a cure to work.
Okay, maybe the game isn't good at pointing you to places where you can heal
yourself (Health or Mana), since mana recovers naturally, and health can be
recovered by spending mana or while travelling, and potions for both are
fairly plentiful. Maybe the trouble is that it plays a little too much on
expectations from previous Elder Scrolls games - although often RPG-type
games (both computer, and tabletop) have (a) vampirism as a Very Bad Thing
Indeed, and (b) priests tend to be healer-types, and you find priests in
temples - there's a very big working church in the town centre of Chorrol,
for example, and you must have been there in order to be pointed to Kvatch
at all. Although there's no requirement to go there.
(In fact I think one bad thing about Oblivion is that it *doesn't* ever tell
you to "go off, explore, do some quests, find things out about the town,
earn a reputation, get famous or infamous" in the way that its most
immediate predecessor Morrowind did.)
Anyway, the quest to cure vampirism is doable. Go round to the Arcane
University - after dark, but early in the evening, some time like 7pm or 8pm
in-game - and see who you can talk to. Raminus Polus, one of the Mage
quest-givers for the Mages Guild anyway, is a reasonable starting point,
especially since he shows up in the area of the University that's accessible
even if you haven't joined the Mages Guild yet.
Yes, vampirism does provide some bonuses, and there are ways to get around
the penalties - particularly if you're playing an "evil" type character. A
"good" person may want to cure vampirism instead. And the quest wasn't as
bad as I thought it was going to be.
Or if you prefer to restart - don't give up on the game entirely, it's still
fun. But in future you'll know to pay a bit more attention to text that
flashes up at the top of the screen, and now you know to check your status
after every combat with any kind of Vampire, whether named or generic.
(and also, watch out in case you've contracted any OTHER diseases. Although
none of the other in-game diseases turn into a form that needs a quest to
cure: only vampirism is like that. I don't know whether lycanthropy - that
is, the werewolf disease - exists in Oblivion, though it exists in a
Morrowind expansion and is present in the main game of Skyrim. In both games
it's similar to vampirism in that there's an initial "curable" stage that's
easy to miss, and there's a moment when it's "too late to cure" after which
you become a full-blown werewolf or vampire next time you sleep, and there's
a quest to "cure" it, or evil characters may choose to do evil things to
avoid or reduce the penalties of the condition.)
-- Jonathan.
sleep.
You must have somehow gotten Porphyric Hemophilia from a combat with a
vampire, considerably *earlier*, without realising it - over 72 game hours
previously (not real-hours - that's 3 game days, which can pass in a
surprisingly fast amount of real time while fast-travelling) - and then did
not sleep at an inn, or anywhere else, for 72 hours. Nor make any attempt to
cure a disease, nor pray at an altar or wayshrine, in that time.
At which point, when you slept in a bed (not knowing you'd caught a disease
over 3 game days ago), you were already too far "gone" to get the "warning"
dreams. Which, yes, may take the form of dreaming of a vampire feeding on
you - or of BEING the vampire - and, instead, skipped straight to the dream
at which your "Porphyric Hemophilia" converts to full-blown "Vampirism".
That's how you get vampirism. It's the ONLY way, unless you complete the
Dark Brotherhood quest line far enough to the point where it's offered to
you as a "gift". But if you're doing that, you're already evil enough that
you'll be deliberately wanting to feed on victims and know exactly what
you're doing when you do it.
the catch is that when you first catch the disease in question, it's NOT
called vampirism, it's only called Porphyric Hemophilia, and while it's in
THIS stage, it's curable. Unfortunately it's also very, very easy to not
notice it, since it has remarkably few side-effects in-game (I believe only
a tiny lowering of your maximum Fatigue level.) Once the disease changes its
name to Vampirism - while you're sleeping in a bed - it's (a) been over
three game days, and (b) is already too late for a cure to work.
Okay, maybe the game isn't good at pointing you to places where you can heal
yourself (Health or Mana), since mana recovers naturally, and health can be
recovered by spending mana or while travelling, and potions for both are
fairly plentiful. Maybe the trouble is that it plays a little too much on
expectations from previous Elder Scrolls games - although often RPG-type
games (both computer, and tabletop) have (a) vampirism as a Very Bad Thing
Indeed, and (b) priests tend to be healer-types, and you find priests in
temples - there's a very big working church in the town centre of Chorrol,
for example, and you must have been there in order to be pointed to Kvatch
at all. Although there's no requirement to go there.
(In fact I think one bad thing about Oblivion is that it *doesn't* ever tell
you to "go off, explore, do some quests, find things out about the town,
earn a reputation, get famous or infamous" in the way that its most
immediate predecessor Morrowind did.)
Anyway, the quest to cure vampirism is doable. Go round to the Arcane
University - after dark, but early in the evening, some time like 7pm or 8pm
in-game - and see who you can talk to. Raminus Polus, one of the Mage
quest-givers for the Mages Guild anyway, is a reasonable starting point,
especially since he shows up in the area of the University that's accessible
even if you haven't joined the Mages Guild yet.
Yes, vampirism does provide some bonuses, and there are ways to get around
the penalties - particularly if you're playing an "evil" type character. A
"good" person may want to cure vampirism instead. And the quest wasn't as
bad as I thought it was going to be.
Or if you prefer to restart - don't give up on the game entirely, it's still
fun. But in future you'll know to pay a bit more attention to text that
flashes up at the top of the screen, and now you know to check your status
after every combat with any kind of Vampire, whether named or generic.
(and also, watch out in case you've contracted any OTHER diseases. Although
none of the other in-game diseases turn into a form that needs a quest to
cure: only vampirism is like that. I don't know whether lycanthropy - that
is, the werewolf disease - exists in Oblivion, though it exists in a
Morrowind expansion and is present in the main game of Skyrim. In both games
it's similar to vampirism in that there's an initial "curable" stage that's
easy to miss, and there's a moment when it's "too late to cure" after which
you become a full-blown werewolf or vampire next time you sleep, and there's
a quest to "cure" it, or evil characters may choose to do evil things to
avoid or reduce the penalties of the condition.)
-- Jonathan.
Miles Bader
Mar 11, 2013, 2:11:05 AM3/11/13
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"Jonathan Ellis" <jle3...@gmail.com> writes:
> ...So I had to find the cure instead. Which is a somewhat involved and
> annoyingly longish quest.
... and there are bugs which can make that quest impossible to finish.
> ...So I had to find the cure instead. Which is a somewhat involved and
> annoyingly longish quest.
It's pretty annoying to find that out after devoting huge amounts of
time to the quest!! ><
-miles
--
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Trimble Bracegirdle
Mar 12, 2013, 4:15:27 PM3/12/13
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I had that problem.
Easiest way for a cure is by going to a location in the
official Oblivion DLC – The Vile Lair.
These links show how:
http://legoless.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/oblivion-dlc-the-vile-lair/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woEAif6CcRo
If you do not have the Vile Lair DLC (its pretty unpleasant )
you might not feel to guilty about finding a PIraTE (Shock! HoRRoR!) copy.
You can install it just long enough to get the Cure
then uninstall it.
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Easiest way for a cure is by going to a location in the
official Oblivion DLC – The Vile Lair.
These links show how:
http://legoless.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/oblivion-dlc-the-vile-lair/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woEAif6CcRo
If you do not have the Vile Lair DLC (its pretty unpleasant )
you might not feel to guilty about finding a PIraTE (Shock! HoRRoR!) copy.
You can install it just long enough to get the Cure
then uninstall it.
(\__/)
(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny into your
(")_(") signature to help him gain world domination.
T987654321
Mar 13, 2013, 1:45:41 AM3/13/13
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Vampirism in ES games STINKS.
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