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Hari Seldon

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Dec 29, 2004, 2:59:49 PM12/29/04
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Video killed the radio-star...

Can't help it, but I've the feeling that the match day option to view these
running ants has taken the magic away.

I used to shout at the letters on CM1
I used to scream and cheer at the flashing boxes of CM2
I used to ponder, whine and stammer reading the lines in CM3

And now... I see circles moving.. and I can't help but feeling homesick to
these days that the texts filled my imagination with bicycle kicks and
all... There is almost no room for thinking how a player looks with the
piccies and how a player acts with the match screen.
This may be a big compliment but....

I think I''m off to CM 01/02 (3)

Maybe I'm getting ol' or something. After finishing Rome, Total War I looked
up on an abandonware site for Centurion...


Hari Seldon

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Dec 29, 2004, 3:01:11 PM12/29/04
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Mr. Pink

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Dec 29, 2004, 4:05:26 PM12/29/04
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Hari Seldon wrote:

Let me know if you find it...

Mikael Schøler

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Dec 29, 2004, 4:29:13 PM12/29/04
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uhm can I remind you of the feature that lets you disable 2D view?

Gareth

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Dec 29, 2004, 7:14:26 PM12/29/04
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"Hari Seldon" <Roel....@hetnet.nl> wrote in message
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How about turning off highlights and selecting commentary only, do you not
bother to correct a problem that has obviously so easy to solve!


Hari Seldon

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Dec 30, 2004, 2:23:34 AM12/30/04
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"Gareth" <gare...@btinternet.com> schreef in bericht
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No no no.. It's like Icarus flying too high or low, or Pygmalion falling in
love with his own statue. Once you've seen the sirens of match view....
you're spoiled for ever


Hari Seldon

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Dec 30, 2004, 2:24:36 AM12/30/04
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"Mr. Pink" <thedeads...@forever.no> schreef in bericht
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http://www.abandonia.com/game.php?ID=23&genre=strategy

That Abandonia site sure ROCKS!

Centurion
Ascendancy
Sam & Max
Dune
Dune II

etc. etc.

All the goodies for the dosbox etc.are there


The Wielder of the Scythe

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Dec 30, 2004, 3:17:08 AM12/30/04
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Mikael Schøler wrote:

> Hari Seldon wrote:
> > Video killed the radio-star...
> > Can't help it, but I've the feeling that the match day option to view these
> > running ants has taken the magic away.
> >

> uhm can I remind you of the feature that lets you disable 2D view?

Yes, you can turn to a completely virginal commentary view and/or switch to match stats and
ignore the 2D when it pops up. But that is not the point. The 2D view is the dominant engine in
the game. Turning it off/ignoring it is an exercise in self-delusion. All the bad AI (and
sometimes good AI) is still there, you cannot get away from it.
It is a given that once SI put in the visualisation engine of the matches, they must get it as
close to possible as football; TV football at the least. If they cannot, gamers will not be able
to suspend their disbelief even more. They cannot most of the matches and we laugh our heads off
for one, and for two, get frustrated for lack of interventional options and toss the game away.

My posit is this - if the AI was half as good as the matches we watch on TV, the little dots
behaved like amateur footballers would, we would be playing just this game and nothing else.

The Wielder of the Scythe

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Dec 30, 2004, 3:44:03 AM12/30/04
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Hari Seldon wrote:

> http://www.abandonia.com/game.php?ID=23&genre=strategy
>
> That Abandonia site sure ROCKS!
> Centurion
> Ascendancy
> Sam & Max
> Dune
> Dune II

Since you like old-fashioned uncomplicated strategy games, may I suggest one very underrated and
almost unheard of title? Fields of Glory. It is at the site too.
http://www.abandonia.com/game.php?ID=106&genre=strategy
Almost no AI to speak of. But how does it work as a strategy game? That, my fellow strategist,
is the magic of it.

The Brazilian Man

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Dec 30, 2004, 5:33:47 AM12/30/04
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Em Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:59:49 GMT, Hari Seldon <Roel....@hetnet.nl>
escreveu:

you have valid point here, we could be able to manage and play both
versions, as the games are different.
I miss when I had no info about european players, and my first CM2 games
were totally intuitive and stats reading.
But as I'm a realism hunter, I'm very happy with FM, and in opposition to
majority I hope to be still alive and playing it in 3D with good AI.

--
The Brazilian Man

Fil Arkonus

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Dec 30, 2004, 9:09:58 AM12/30/04
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"Hari Seldon" <Roel....@hetnet.nl> wrote in message
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>
> No no no.. It's like Icarus flying too high or low, or Pygmalion falling
> in love with his own statue. Once you've seen the sirens of match view....
> you're spoiled for ever

You could just watch the commentary and then watch the highlights in match
view after. Get the best of both?

--
Fil


Mikael Schøler

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Dec 30, 2004, 9:26:32 AM12/30/04
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Even though I like the 2D view, it is disabled when I play FM2005 on my
laptop.. Why? Simply because it doesn't run that good - requires too
much power..

Hari Seldon

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Dec 30, 2004, 10:19:36 AM12/30/04
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"Fil Arkonus" <f...@arkonuspants.f9pants.copants.ukpants> schreef in bericht
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Hmm.. seems like asking Hades to let me cross the Styx just one more time
(and again and again)... But all in all that's no bad idea at all..

I'll give it a whistle - along CM3... After I've finished my dosbox-games ;)


Hari Seldon

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Dec 30, 2004, 4:10:59 PM12/30/04
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"Mikael Schøler" <BLAm...@tdcBLAadsl.dk> schreef in bericht
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You have a Pentium I 200Mhz MMX laptop?


Mikael Schøler

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Dec 30, 2004, 4:55:30 PM12/30/04
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naaah almost.. Pentium II 366Mhz... FM2005 is playable, slow but
playable as long as I don't view the 2D..

Mr. Pink

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Dec 31, 2004, 12:55:34 PM12/31/04
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Hari Seldon wrote:

Thanx

Hari Seldon

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Jan 1, 2005, 6:34:45 AM1/1/05
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"Mikael Schøler" <BLAm...@tdcBLAadsl.dk> schreef in bericht
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Playing with a PII machine... I make a deep bow for thee. That's what I call
patience!

I run it on a Athlon 64-bit 3000Mhz. and still think it's sluggish, mind
you... just bought this laptop :(


Mikael Schøler

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Jan 1, 2005, 9:16:56 AM1/1/05
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I think it's the 192mb ram that makes it possible to run. Currently I'm
playing a Schalke 04 game and it doesn't run that bad.

I actually got an offer yesterday for a 700-something laptop.. I think
it will improve the gameplay a bit :-)

Hari Seldon

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Jan 1, 2005, 2:53:56 PM1/1/05
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"The Wielder of the Scythe" <scytheNOS...@netvigator.com> schreef in
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Remember playing it once... Can't recall it exactly, give it a wizz this
week..


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