In article <9meqt05qj86smrcmrp2dg0d9def46s4...@4ax.com>, Craftworker
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----My belief, always (despite what you or others may believe), is that
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> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 02:21:43 GMT, Ed King <edk...@masonicinfo.com>
> >Tell you what, though: on the next update to my website (within
> I would rather not poke at you. What I am seeing you write here is
actions speak louder than words. Accordingly, I would have otherwise
let my changes to the site show what I have done. However, since you
have specifically 'pinged' me, I'll respond to this.
> I would respectfully request that you consider removing the namesTwo points here:
> of Brother Masons, most especially Worshipful Brother McFarland's.
The first I made in this thread AND have made all along: when a Mason
Since I started my website, I've tried to NOT hide anything. Those
As I had mentioned here in the past, I had received a 'solicitation'
> I would also ask that you consider removing the pages for people LikeI'm not meaning to have an argument here but I simply do not understand
> Sam Moser, Daryl Carstensen, even the prolific Chris Stevens, and
> stop giving these individuals someone and something to focus their
> aggression on, for the benefit of the Fraternity.
how my noting the egregious behavior of Chris, for example, does
ANYTHING one way or another. Chris - under his two dozen pseudonyms -
can leave the casual observer thinking that there are all these people
posting against Freemasonry so SURELY there must be something afoot.
However, when replying to any of his ludicrous posts, a simple pointer
is made to a web page, it all becomes clear to that observer. Since you
claim to have been here for years before you started posting, SURELY
you know that Sam was an absolute.... Well, surely you know. It was HE
who made such a bid deal out of his medical history. It was HE who
wrote pages upon pages about how the Masons had been filling him with
drugs etc. What is so horribly wrong with pointing out those FACTS so
that others can understand and appreciate the 'whole picture'?
Beyond that, when I become the lightning rod for outbursts like that of
I mean no disrespect in saying this but whether you present it quietly
As for Daryl, he was here before I was and gone when I arrived.
> If an individual, sane or not, is of the opinionDestruction is NEVER my intent. These folks have ALREADY done whatever
> Freemasonry is a bad thing, he should have the right to voice that
> opinion without reprisal. We can correct their mistakes here without
> resorting to destroying them publicly as individuals.
it is that they've done though. How can someone who lies about their
own lives (pretending to be wheelchair bound, for example) have any
legitimacy in what they say about Freemasonry? Why do they get to be
'taken at face value' whenever they walk into the room? (Again, and
again, and again....)
I'm not arguing; I'm simply trying to understand the logic here.
> On the other hand, people that make a living attacking the Fraternity(LARRY Kunk). Again, I don't see the difference between the two.
> for profit, however, are in my opinion fair game. The Ed Kunks and
> Ron Carlsons of the world should get both barrels, and I will
> wholeheartedly support your actions in this regard.
Because SO many people 'live' on the internet these days, folks like
those you mention don't get half as many 'eyeballs' as someone like
"Watchy", for example. I'm oriented toward the internet stuff: Bros.
Morris and deHoyos have very amply addressed Carlson, for example.
> In the meantime, I would ask you not to fall prey to taunts from theNo need to leave on my account. There are several who wish to provide
> trolls, who will by their nature oppose this peace process, and
> encourage those that follow you to do the same. For my part, I will
> also withdraw from the field, and we'll see where we are when you you
> put the revised pages up.
spelling lessons, review rare book matters, and/or plumb the depths of
Al Pike's publisher. And, as I've ALWAYS said, I'm open to
contributions at any time.
> Bravo, sir. I hope you mean what you say.Oh, I do. And I certainly hope that Jeff will give us all the
opportunity to clarify the many questions that were raised when his
several organizations were being touted here. I think that could clear
up SO much.... While I personally wasn't interested, there seemed to be
a very strong groundswell for the type of group that (perhaps) was
envisioned. The obfuscation and threats (which, based on David's post,
seem to be continuing, sadly) caused MUCH concern though. Rather than
threaten and insult me, I hope for an open discussion involving not
only myself but others who can help mediate. Will you encourage Jeff in
I want to clarify the issues which seem to be bothering Jeff: doing it
> Current denizens of the ImpFilter(tm): JB, JLRuble, JDolanInappropriate Masonic behavior.
> "Ignoring idiots for a better tomorrow."
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