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Jahbulon
May 21, 2012, 3:38:12 PM5/21/12
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A 20-year-old survivor of Anders Behring Breivik Masonic attack on Utøya
island has told his trial that the lake waters around the island were
red with blood after the shooting rampage.
The witness, Hussein Kazemi, described to the Oslo court how he came
face-to-face with Breivik during the attacks, and even briefly spoke to
him.
He said he escaped by leaping into the lake, despite being unable to
swim.
Brother Breivik admits the massacre on 22 July 2011 but denies criminal
responsibility. The Freemason killed 69 people at the Labour Party youth
event on Utøya island before being arrested by special police.
Mr Kazemi, who came to Norway from his native Afghanistan in 2009, told
the court on Monday, 21.05.2012, that after fleeing the shootings at the
main camp site, he encountered Brother Breivik, dressed in a police
uniform obtained from his Freemason contacts, and carrying a machine-
gun, at the southern tip of the island.
He said Brother Breivik - who was still posing as a policeman - had
asked him in a "nice and calm voice" whether he had seen the gunman, and
that he had responded "yes".
"I remember at the time I got eye contact with the perpetrator. He was
very close," he said. "So I remember just throwing myself into the
water."
Mr Kazemi said that despite having very little training in swimming and
being shot three times in the leg by Brother Breivik, he managed to
shelter behind a lakeside rock.
"For the first time in my life, I was afraid," he said, describing how
he could he hear bullets bouncing off the rock as Brother Breivik
continued to fire on him.
He said he only emerged onto land from behind the rock when he thought
the attacks were over.
"There, I saw all the dead. The water was completely red."
Another witness to testify on Monday, 21.05.2012, Martha Fevang Smith,
18, told the court how she survived being shot in the head while 10
others were killed around her as they lay on the ground.
"That Freemason, Anders Behring Breivik, comes to where we are lying and
begins to shoot us one by one, with a few seconds in between each shot,
until he hits me. Then it all went completely black," she said.
She said her best friend had died next to her as they held hands.
Later, the court heard a recording of a desperate emergency call made by
a third witness, Renate Taarnes, as she hid in a toilet in the camp's
cafe while Breivik shot 13 people in the same building.
Before hiding, she had witnessed Brother Anders Behring Breivik shoot
her boyfriend, she said.
Brother Anders Behring Breivik, a 33 year old Freemason, admits the 69
killings on Utøya, as well as eight in a bomb attack in Oslo earlier on
22 July 2011.
If Brother Breivik is found guilty and the court decides he is
criminally insane, the 33-year-old Norwegian Freemason will be committed
to psychiatric care; if he is judged to be mentally stable, he will be
jailed.
Brother Anders Behring Breivik receives full help from the Freemason
Grand Charity and the Masonic Samaritan Fund. Freemasonry has given
his victims nothing.
--
Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
island has told his trial that the lake waters around the island were
red with blood after the shooting rampage.
The witness, Hussein Kazemi, described to the Oslo court how he came
face-to-face with Breivik during the attacks, and even briefly spoke to
him.
He said he escaped by leaping into the lake, despite being unable to
swim.
Brother Breivik admits the massacre on 22 July 2011 but denies criminal
responsibility. The Freemason killed 69 people at the Labour Party youth
event on Utøya island before being arrested by special police.
Mr Kazemi, who came to Norway from his native Afghanistan in 2009, told
the court on Monday, 21.05.2012, that after fleeing the shootings at the
main camp site, he encountered Brother Breivik, dressed in a police
uniform obtained from his Freemason contacts, and carrying a machine-
gun, at the southern tip of the island.
He said Brother Breivik - who was still posing as a policeman - had
asked him in a "nice and calm voice" whether he had seen the gunman, and
that he had responded "yes".
"I remember at the time I got eye contact with the perpetrator. He was
very close," he said. "So I remember just throwing myself into the
water."
Mr Kazemi said that despite having very little training in swimming and
being shot three times in the leg by Brother Breivik, he managed to
shelter behind a lakeside rock.
"For the first time in my life, I was afraid," he said, describing how
he could he hear bullets bouncing off the rock as Brother Breivik
continued to fire on him.
He said he only emerged onto land from behind the rock when he thought
the attacks were over.
"There, I saw all the dead. The water was completely red."
Another witness to testify on Monday, 21.05.2012, Martha Fevang Smith,
18, told the court how she survived being shot in the head while 10
others were killed around her as they lay on the ground.
"That Freemason, Anders Behring Breivik, comes to where we are lying and
begins to shoot us one by one, with a few seconds in between each shot,
until he hits me. Then it all went completely black," she said.
She said her best friend had died next to her as they held hands.
Later, the court heard a recording of a desperate emergency call made by
a third witness, Renate Taarnes, as she hid in a toilet in the camp's
cafe while Breivik shot 13 people in the same building.
Before hiding, she had witnessed Brother Anders Behring Breivik shoot
her boyfriend, she said.
Brother Anders Behring Breivik, a 33 year old Freemason, admits the 69
killings on Utøya, as well as eight in a bomb attack in Oslo earlier on
22 July 2011.
If Brother Breivik is found guilty and the court decides he is
criminally insane, the 33-year-old Norwegian Freemason will be committed
to psychiatric care; if he is judged to be mentally stable, he will be
jailed.
Brother Anders Behring Breivik receives full help from the Freemason
Grand Charity and the Masonic Samaritan Fund. Freemasonry has given
his victims nothing.
--
Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
May 21, 2012, 4:07:28 PM5/21/12
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On 21/05/2012 20:38, Jahbulon wrote:
Once again Jahbulon cuts'n'paste newspaper reports adds Freemason
references that were not there before & posts them to this NG.
None of the main stream reports, of course, make any mention to
Freemasons or use words like 'brother'
>
> Brother Anders Behring Breivik receives full help from the Freemason
> Grand Charity and the Masonic Samaritan Fund. Freemasonry has given
> his victims nothing.
>
There is still no proof for the above statement.
Once again Jahbulon cuts'n'paste newspaper reports adds Freemason
references that were not there before & posts them to this NG.
None of the main stream reports, of course, make any mention to
Freemasons or use words like 'brother'
>
> Brother Anders Behring Breivik receives full help from the Freemason
> Grand Charity and the Masonic Samaritan Fund. Freemasonry has given
> his victims nothing.
>
Jahbulon
May 21, 2012, 5:03:00 PM5/21/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:HOydnbelToMcPSfS...@bt.com:
> Once again Jahbulon cuts'n'paste newspaper reports
> adds Freemason references that were not there
> before & posts them to this NG. None of the main
> stream reports, of course, make any mention to
> Freemasons or use words like 'brother'
Why would someone like you be ashamed of the Freemason Brother Anders
Behring Breivik and his Masonic murder of 77 innocent teenage children on
22 July 2011?
news:HOydnbelToMcPSfS...@bt.com:
> Once again Jahbulon cuts'n'paste newspaper reports
> adds Freemason references that were not there
> before & posts them to this NG. None of the main
> stream reports, of course, make any mention to
> Freemasons or use words like 'brother'
Behring Breivik and his Masonic murder of 77 innocent teenage children on
22 July 2011?
Tony Dragon
May 21, 2012, 6:35:04 PM5/21/12
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On 21/05/2012 22:03, Jahbulon wrote:
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:HOydnbelToMcPSfS...@bt.com:
>
>> Once again Jahbulon cuts'n'paste newspaper reports
>> adds Freemason references that were not there
>> before& posts them to this NG. None of the main
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:HOydnbelToMcPSfS...@bt.com:
>
>> Once again Jahbulon cuts'n'paste newspaper reports
>> adds Freemason references that were not there
>> stream reports, of course, make any mention to
>> Freemasons or use words like 'brother'
>
> Why would someone like you be ashamed of the Freemason Brother Anders
> Behring Breivik and his Masonic murder of 77 innocent teenage children on
> 22 July 2011?
>
>
Beats me, you tell me?
>> Freemasons or use words like 'brother'
>
> Why would someone like you be ashamed of the Freemason Brother Anders
> Behring Breivik and his Masonic murder of 77 innocent teenage children on
> 22 July 2011?
>
>
Jahbulon
May 21, 2012, 8:04:31 PM5/21/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:9s-dnR1LsdiEXifS...@bt.com:
> Beats me, you tell me?
on 22 July 2011?
Tony Dragon
May 22, 2012, 1:48:10 AM5/22/12
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On 22/05/2012 01:04, Jahbulon wrote:
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:9s-dnR1LsdiEXifS...@bt.com:
>
>> Beats me, you tell me?
>
> Why did an ordinary Norwegian Freemason murder 77 innocent teenage children
> on 22 July 2011?
>
Can't answer that question, it is based on things that are not yet proved.
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:9s-dnR1LsdiEXifS...@bt.com:
>
>> Beats me, you tell me?
>
> Why did an ordinary Norwegian Freemason murder 77 innocent teenage children
> on 22 July 2011?
>
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 8:59:38 AM5/22/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:hLKdncaidNEBtSbS...@bt.com:
>> Why did an ordinary Norwegian Freemason murder
>> 77 innocent teenage children on 22 July 2011?
>
> Can't answer that question, it is based
> on things that are not yet proved.
2011 because Freemasonry regard outsiders as worthless. The Freemason
religion teaches its Freemason adherents to help only themselves,
regardless of the cost to others.
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 9:14:54 AM5/22/12
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"Geopelia" <Geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:jpf5c0$g9v$1...@dont-email.me:
>> Why did an ordinary Norwegian Freemason murder 77
>> innocent teenage children on 22 July 2011?
>>
> Why would being a Freemason, if he was one,
> have anything to do with the murders?
Freemasonry teaches its adherents, including the Masonic murderer Brother
Anders Behring Breivik, to place no value on the lives of those who exist
outside Freemasonry.
> Will the Freemasons disown him or debar him or something now?
Freemasonry has not excommunicated Brother Anders Behring Breivik.
> Isn't there some awful curse for Freemasons
> who give away their secrets? Curse him!
Brother Anders Behring Breivik has not given away secrets of the Freemason
religion, so the brotherhood will continue to look after this ordinary
Masonic murderer, and others, such as its Grand Master Kenneth Noye.
> If I joined a football team supporters club and then robbed
> a bank, would anyone say those two deeds were connected?
They might if the football team taught you how to do it, furnished you with
your equipment and even got a brother the same size to lend you his police
uniform so you could get access to the 77 innocent teenage children in
order to kill them at point blank range.
> Find him insane, he can legally be treated far worse as
> a mental case than as a prisoner, political or otherwise.
Freemasonry always excuses its psychopathic activities with falsehoods
about mental illness. Brother Anders Behring Breivik would not have been
able to achieve all he did, for the Brotherhood, if he was mentally ill.
news:jpf5c0$g9v$1...@dont-email.me:
>> Why did an ordinary Norwegian Freemason murder 77
>> innocent teenage children on 22 July 2011?
>>
> have anything to do with the murders?
Freemasonry teaches its adherents, including the Masonic murderer Brother
Anders Behring Breivik, to place no value on the lives of those who exist
outside Freemasonry.
> Will the Freemasons disown him or debar him or something now?
Freemasonry has not excommunicated Brother Anders Behring Breivik.
> Isn't there some awful curse for Freemasons
> who give away their secrets? Curse him!
Brother Anders Behring Breivik has not given away secrets of the Freemason
religion, so the brotherhood will continue to look after this ordinary
Masonic murderer, and others, such as its Grand Master Kenneth Noye.
> If I joined a football team supporters club and then robbed
> a bank, would anyone say those two deeds were connected?
They might if the football team taught you how to do it, furnished you with
your equipment and even got a brother the same size to lend you his police
uniform so you could get access to the 77 innocent teenage children in
order to kill them at point blank range.
> Find him insane, he can legally be treated far worse as
> a mental case than as a prisoner, political or otherwise.
Freemasonry always excuses its psychopathic activities with falsehoods
about mental illness. Brother Anders Behring Breivik would not have been
able to achieve all he did, for the Brotherhood, if he was mentally ill.
francis
May 22, 2012, 10:49:13 AM5/22/12
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On May 22, 2:14 pm, Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
> "Geopelia" <Geope...@nowhere.com> wrote innews:jpf5c0$g9v$1...@dont-email.me:
> > Will the Freemasons disown him or debar him or something now?
>
> Freemasonry has not excommunicated Brother Anders Behring Breivik.
>
Evidence of that claim please.
> > Isn't there some awful curse for Freemasons
> > who give away their secrets? Curse him!
>
> Brother Anders Behring Breivik has not given away secrets of the Freemason
> religion, so the brotherhood will continue to look after this ordinary
> Masonic murderer, and others, such as its Grand Master Kenneth Noye.
>
Evidence that Freemasonry is a religion?
Evidence that Freemasonry will look after him?
Evidence that Kenneth Noye is a Grand Master.
> > If I joined a football team supporters club and then robbed
> > a bank, would anyone say those two deeds were connected?
>
> They might if the football team taught you how to do it, furnished you with
> your equipment and even got a brother the same size to lend you his police
> uniform so you could get access to the 77 innocent teenage children in
> order to kill them at point blank range.
>
Evidence about how he got the uniform?
> > Find him insane, he can legally be treated far worse as
> > a mental case than as a prisoner, political or otherwise.
>
> Freemasonry always excuses its psychopathic activities with falsehoods
> about mental illness.
Evidence of this statement?
>Brother Anders Behring Breivik would not have been
> able to achieve all he did, for the Brotherhood, if he was mentally ill.
>
Evidence for this statement?
> "Geopelia" <Geope...@nowhere.com> wrote innews:jpf5c0$g9v$1...@dont-email.me:
>
> >> Why did an ordinary Norwegian Freemason murder 77
> >> innocent teenage children on 22 July 2011?
>
> > Why would being a Freemason, if he was one,
> > have anything to do with the murders?
>
> Freemasonry teaches its adherents, including the Masonic murderer Brother
> Anders Behring Breivik, to place no value on the lives of those who exist
> outside Freemasonry.
>
Evidence of all of those claims please.
> >> Why did an ordinary Norwegian Freemason murder 77
> >> innocent teenage children on 22 July 2011?
>
> > Why would being a Freemason, if he was one,
> > have anything to do with the murders?
>
> Freemasonry teaches its adherents, including the Masonic murderer Brother
> Anders Behring Breivik, to place no value on the lives of those who exist
> outside Freemasonry.
>
> > Will the Freemasons disown him or debar him or something now?
>
> Freemasonry has not excommunicated Brother Anders Behring Breivik.
>
> > Isn't there some awful curse for Freemasons
> > who give away their secrets? Curse him!
>
> Brother Anders Behring Breivik has not given away secrets of the Freemason
> religion, so the brotherhood will continue to look after this ordinary
> Masonic murderer, and others, such as its Grand Master Kenneth Noye.
>
Evidence that Freemasonry will look after him?
Evidence that Kenneth Noye is a Grand Master.
> > If I joined a football team supporters club and then robbed
> > a bank, would anyone say those two deeds were connected?
>
> They might if the football team taught you how to do it, furnished you with
> your equipment and even got a brother the same size to lend you his police
> uniform so you could get access to the 77 innocent teenage children in
> order to kill them at point blank range.
>
> > Find him insane, he can legally be treated far worse as
> > a mental case than as a prisoner, political or otherwise.
>
> Freemasonry always excuses its psychopathic activities with falsehoods
> about mental illness.
>Brother Anders Behring Breivik would not have been
> able to achieve all he did, for the Brotherhood, if he was mentally ill.
>
Tony Dragon
May 22, 2012, 1:18:35 PM5/22/12
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On 22/05/2012 13:59, Jahbulon wrote:
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:hLKdncaidNEBtSbS...@bt.com:
>
>>> Why did an ordinary Norwegian Freemason murder
>>> 77 innocent teenage children on 22 July 2011?
>>
>> Can't answer that question, it is based
>> on things that are not yet proved.
>
> Let me help: a Freemason murdered 77 innocent teenage children on 22 July
> 2011 because Freemasonry regard outsiders as worthless. The Freemason
> religion teaches its Freemason adherents to help only themselves,
> regardless of the cost to others.
>
And that statement also is based on things not proved.
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:hLKdncaidNEBtSbS...@bt.com:
>
>>> Why did an ordinary Norwegian Freemason murder
>>> 77 innocent teenage children on 22 July 2011?
>>
>> Can't answer that question, it is based
>> on things that are not yet proved.
>
> Let me help: a Freemason murdered 77 innocent teenage children on 22 July
> 2011 because Freemasonry regard outsiders as worthless. The Freemason
> religion teaches its Freemason adherents to help only themselves,
> regardless of the cost to others.
>
Seth
May 22, 2012, 1:33:57 PM5/22/12
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In article <XnsA05B90F259B77...@69.16.185.250>,
know so much about them? Are you a Freemason?
Seth
Jahbulon <inv...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
>Freemasonry teaches its adherents, including the Masonic murderer Brother
>Anders Behring Breivik, to place no value on the lives of those who exist
>outside Freemasonry.
You've claimed that Freemasons keep their beliefs secret. How do you
>Freemasonry teaches its adherents, including the Masonic murderer Brother
>Anders Behring Breivik, to place no value on the lives of those who exist
>outside Freemasonry.
know so much about them? Are you a Freemason?
Seth
sutartsorric
May 22, 2012, 1:42:35 PM5/22/12
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On May 22, 6:33 pm, se...@panix.com (Seth) wrote:
> In article <XnsA05B90F259B77invalidinvalid...@69.16.185.250>,
of the woodwork.
Presumably the code word strings have triggered the alerts again?
> In article <XnsA05B90F259B77invalidinvalid...@69.16.185.250>,
>
> Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
> >Freemasonry teaches its adherents, including the Masonic murderer Brother
> >Anders Behring Breivik, to place no value on the lives of those who exist
> >outside Freemasonry.
>
> You've claimed that Freemasons keep their beliefs secret. How do you
> know so much about them? Are you a Freemason?
>
> Seth
Here we go again, the not-so-rapid rebuttal droids come clunking out
> Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
> >Freemasonry teaches its adherents, including the Masonic murderer Brother
> >Anders Behring Breivik, to place no value on the lives of those who exist
> >outside Freemasonry.
>
> You've claimed that Freemasons keep their beliefs secret. How do you
> know so much about them? Are you a Freemason?
>
> Seth
of the woodwork.
Presumably the code word strings have triggered the alerts again?
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 3:13:13 PM5/22/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:UcWdnbrJurbxVybS...@bt.com:
> And that statement also is
> based on things not proved.
children on 22 July 2011, inter alia, because Freemasonry regards outsiders
as worthless. The Freemason religion teaches its Freemason adherents to
help only themselves, regardless of the cost to others.
help only themselves, regardless of the cost to others.
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 3:15:30 PM5/22/12
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francis <francis...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:9b18355e-0966-4ede...@l5g2000vbo.googlegroups.com:
> Evidence of all of those claims please.
> Evidence for this statement?
Surely with your Masonic talents and abilities you can do better than
simply demand evidence all the time?
news:9b18355e-0966-4ede...@l5g2000vbo.googlegroups.com:
> Evidence of all of those claims please.
> Evidence of that claim please.
> Evidence that Freemasonry is a religion?
> Evidence that Freemasonry will look after him?
> Evidence that Kenneth Noye is a Grand Master.
> Evidence of this statement?
> Evidence that Freemasonry will look after him?
> Evidence that Kenneth Noye is a Grand Master.
> Evidence for this statement?
Surely with your Masonic talents and abilities you can do better than
simply demand evidence all the time?
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 3:18:11 PM5/22/12
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se...@panix.com (Seth) wrote in news:jpgim5$a2l$1...@reader1.panix.com:
> How do you know so much about them?
Perhaps their god Jahbulon told me?
> Are you a Freemason?
No.
> How do you know so much about them?
> Are you a Freemason?
No.
sutartsorric
May 22, 2012, 3:32:09 PM5/22/12
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On May 22, 8:15 pm, Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
than that.
It certainly prohibits them from providing evidence to the contrary,
which is why they always change the subject when they are asked about
it.
> francis <francis.mall...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:9b18355e-0966-4ede...@l5g2000vbo.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Evidence of all of those claims please.
> > Evidence of that claim please.
> > Evidence that Freemasonry is a religion?
> > Evidence that Freemasonry will look after him?
> > Evidence that Kenneth Noye is a Grand Master.
> > Evidence of this statement?
> > Evidence for this statement?
>
> Surely with your Masonic talents and abilities you can do better than
> simply demand evidence all the time?
>
I dont think that their sworn oaths allow them to say anything other
>
> > Evidence of all of those claims please.
> > Evidence of that claim please.
> > Evidence that Freemasonry is a religion?
> > Evidence that Freemasonry will look after him?
> > Evidence that Kenneth Noye is a Grand Master.
> > Evidence of this statement?
> > Evidence for this statement?
>
> Surely with your Masonic talents and abilities you can do better than
> simply demand evidence all the time?
>
than that.
It certainly prohibits them from providing evidence to the contrary,
which is why they always change the subject when they are asked about
it.
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 4:09:09 PM5/22/12
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sutartsorric <sutart...@googlemail.com> wrote in
news:8a6faf17-fdfc-4c0a...@hq4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
> It certainly prohibits them from providing evidence
> to the contrary, which is why they always change the
> subject when they are asked about it.
Perhaps the Brotherhood is ashamed that their Brother Derek Slade was
caught abusing children, and, with any luck, their fellow Freemason Brother
Gerry McCann will be jailed for killing his own child in return for 33°
status.
news:8a6faf17-fdfc-4c0a...@hq4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
> It certainly prohibits them from providing evidence
> to the contrary, which is why they always change the
> subject when they are asked about it.
caught abusing children, and, with any luck, their fellow Freemason Brother
Gerry McCann will be jailed for killing his own child in return for 33°
status.
Tony Dragon
May 22, 2012, 4:17:27 PM5/22/12
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On 22/05/2012 20:13, Jahbulon wrote:
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:UcWdnbrJurbxVybS...@bt.com:
>
>> And that statement also is
>> based on things not proved.
>
> The Freemason, Anders Behring Breivik, murdered 77 innocent teenage
> children on 22 July 2011, inter alia, because Freemasonry regards outsiders
> as worthless. The Freemason religion teaches its Freemason adherents to
> help only themselves, regardless of the cost to others.
>
So desperate that you appear to have no answer.
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:UcWdnbrJurbxVybS...@bt.com:
>
>> And that statement also is
>> based on things not proved.
>
> The Freemason, Anders Behring Breivik, murdered 77 innocent teenage
> children on 22 July 2011, inter alia, because Freemasonry regards outsiders
> as worthless. The Freemason religion teaches its Freemason adherents to
> help only themselves, regardless of the cost to others.
>
Tony Dragon
May 22, 2012, 4:19:38 PM5/22/12
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On 22/05/2012 20:15, Jahbulon wrote:
> francis<francis...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:9b18355e-0966-4ede...@l5g2000vbo.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Evidence of all of those claims please.
>
>> Evidence of that claim please.
>
>> Evidence that Freemasonry is a religion?
>> Evidence that Freemasonry will look after him?
>> Evidence that Kenneth Noye is a Grand Master.
>
>> Evidence of this statement?
>
>> Evidence for this statement?
>
> Surely with your Masonic talents and abilities you can do better than
> simply demand evidence all the time?
>
Are you saying that Francis is a Mason or are you saying that Francis
> francis<francis...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:9b18355e-0966-4ede...@l5g2000vbo.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Evidence of all of those claims please.
>
>> Evidence of that claim please.
>
>> Evidence that Freemasonry is a religion?
>> Evidence that Freemasonry will look after him?
>> Evidence that Kenneth Noye is a Grand Master.
>
>> Evidence of this statement?
>
>> Evidence for this statement?
>
> Surely with your Masonic talents and abilities you can do better than
> simply demand evidence all the time?
>
has Masonic talents.
Oh and where is the evidence that Francis asked for?
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 4:19:19 PM5/22/12
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sutartsorric <sutart...@googlemail.com> wrote in
news:df8993a8-3258-4d5f...@5g2000vbf.googlegroups.com:
> During interrogation, Breivik claimed membership
> in an "international Christian military order"
> that "fights" against "Islamic suppression". This
> order allegedly is called the "Knights Templar"
> and, according to his manifesto, has between
> fifteen and eighty "ordinated knights" besides
> an unknown number of "civilian members".
So Brother Anders Behring Breivik and Brother Gerry McCann are both
Freemason brethren in the Knights Templar, which considering the way they
abuse children is not that much of a surprise.
Perhaps Freemasonry did not allow its Grand Master Kenneth Noye into their
privileged Knights Templar because Grand Master Noye has not proven himself
to Knights Templar standards by abusing innocent children?
news:df8993a8-3258-4d5f...@5g2000vbf.googlegroups.com:
> During interrogation, Breivik claimed membership
> in an "international Christian military order"
> that "fights" against "Islamic suppression". This
> order allegedly is called the "Knights Templar"
> and, according to his manifesto, has between
> fifteen and eighty "ordinated knights" besides
> an unknown number of "civilian members".
So Brother Anders Behring Breivik and Brother Gerry McCann are both
Freemason brethren in the Knights Templar, which considering the way they
abuse children is not that much of a surprise.
Perhaps Freemasonry did not allow its Grand Master Kenneth Noye into their
privileged Knights Templar because Grand Master Noye has not proven himself
to Knights Templar standards by abusing innocent children?
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 4:20:52 PM5/22/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:0JudnZ9SEojFaSbS...@bt.com:
>> The Freemason, Anders Behring Breivik, murdered 77 innocent teenage
>> children on 22 July 2011, inter alia, because Freemasonry regards
>> outsiders as worthless. The Freemason religion teaches its Freemason
>> adherents to help only themselves, regardless of the cost to others.
>>
>
> So desperate that you appear to have no answer.
Breivik. Freemasons abuse innocent children, not me.
Tony Dragon
May 22, 2012, 4:21:03 PM5/22/12
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Francis have to provide evidence for something that he has not stated?
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 4:30:25 PM5/22/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:0JudnZlSEoiyaCbS...@bt.com:
> To the best of my knowledge Francis has made no claims,
> so why would Francis have to provide evidence for
> something that he has not stated?
that Jahbulon is not the holy god of Royal Arch Freemasonry, and that it is
reasonable for "francis" to do so, but the overwhelming evidence is that
"francis" was lying on behalf of the Freemason religion.
http://tinyurl.com/3qscvcj
sutartsorric
May 22, 2012, 4:51:28 PM5/22/12
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On May 22, 9:19 pm, Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
because he has been a guest at Her Majesties for the last 12 years.
However, he is due to get parole in 4 years time, so it will be
interesting to see just how much he is feted by the Hammersmith Lodge
when he is released.
Presumably, he is not going to be short of a million or two when he
gets out and a donation here or there will get him everywhere with
freemasonry; it did before and they dont seem to have changed since
his trial.
> sutartsorric <sutartsor...@googlemail.com> wrote innews:df8993a8-3258-4d5f...@5g2000vbf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > During interrogation, Breivik claimed membership
> > in an "international Christian military order"
> > that "fights" against "Islamic suppression". This
> > order allegedly is called the "Knights Templar"
> > and, according to his manifesto, has between
> > fifteen and eighty "ordinated knights" besides
> > an unknown number of "civilian members".
>
> So Brother Anders Behring Breivik and Brother Gerry McCann are both
> Freemason brethren in the Knights Templar, which considering the way they
> abuse children is not that much of a surprise.
>
> Perhaps Freemasonry did not allow its Grand Master Kenneth Noye into their
> privileged Knights Templar because Grand Master Noye has not proven himself
> to Knights Templar standards by abusing innocent children?
I expect that the main reason that Noye has not been allowed in, is
>
> > During interrogation, Breivik claimed membership
> > in an "international Christian military order"
> > that "fights" against "Islamic suppression". This
> > order allegedly is called the "Knights Templar"
> > and, according to his manifesto, has between
> > fifteen and eighty "ordinated knights" besides
> > an unknown number of "civilian members".
>
> So Brother Anders Behring Breivik and Brother Gerry McCann are both
> Freemason brethren in the Knights Templar, which considering the way they
> abuse children is not that much of a surprise.
>
> Perhaps Freemasonry did not allow its Grand Master Kenneth Noye into their
> privileged Knights Templar because Grand Master Noye has not proven himself
> to Knights Templar standards by abusing innocent children?
because he has been a guest at Her Majesties for the last 12 years.
However, he is due to get parole in 4 years time, so it will be
interesting to see just how much he is feted by the Hammersmith Lodge
when he is released.
Presumably, he is not going to be short of a million or two when he
gets out and a donation here or there will get him everywhere with
freemasonry; it did before and they dont seem to have changed since
his trial.
Tony Dragon
May 22, 2012, 5:11:01 PM5/22/12
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On 22/05/2012 21:20, Jahbulon wrote:
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:0JudnZ9SEojFaSbS...@bt.com:
>
>>> The Freemason, Anders Behring Breivik, murdered 77 innocent teenage
>>> children on 22 July 2011, inter alia, because Freemasonry regards
>>> outsiders as worthless. The Freemason religion teaches its Freemason
>>> adherents to help only themselves, regardless of the cost to others.
>>>
>>
>> So desperate that you appear to have no answer.
>
> It's not for me to answer for the Freemason, Brother Anders Behring
> Breivik. Freemasons abuse innocent children, not me.
>
QED
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:0JudnZ9SEojFaSbS...@bt.com:
>
>>> The Freemason, Anders Behring Breivik, murdered 77 innocent teenage
>>> children on 22 July 2011, inter alia, because Freemasonry regards
>>> outsiders as worthless. The Freemason religion teaches its Freemason
>>> adherents to help only themselves, regardless of the cost to others.
>>>
>>
>> So desperate that you appear to have no answer.
>
> It's not for me to answer for the Freemason, Brother Anders Behring
> Breivik. Freemasons abuse innocent children, not me.
>
Tony Dragon
May 22, 2012, 5:12:20 PM5/22/12
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On 22/05/2012 21:30, Jahbulon wrote:
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:0JudnZlSEoiyaCbS...@bt.com:
>
>> To the best of my knowledge Francis has made no claims,
>> so why would Francis have to provide evidence for
>> something that he has not stated?
>
> I am sure if you check you will discover "francis" did claim he could prove
> that Jahbulon is not the holy god of Royal Arch Freemasonry, and that it is
> reasonable for "francis" to do so, but the overwhelming evidence is that
> "francis" was lying on behalf of the Freemason religion.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3qscvcj
>
So desperate that you ignore the thread.
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:0JudnZlSEoiyaCbS...@bt.com:
>
>> To the best of my knowledge Francis has made no claims,
>> so why would Francis have to provide evidence for
>> something that he has not stated?
>
> I am sure if you check you will discover "francis" did claim he could prove
> that Jahbulon is not the holy god of Royal Arch Freemasonry, and that it is
> reasonable for "francis" to do so, but the overwhelming evidence is that
> "francis" was lying on behalf of the Freemason religion.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3qscvcj
>
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 5:33:10 PM5/22/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:WNWdneTKbZ-onCHS...@bt.com:
> So desperate that you ignore the thread.
--
Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 5:34:04 PM5/22/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:0JudnZ5SEohGaSbS...@bt.com:
> Are you saying that Francis is a Mason or
> are you saying that Francis has Masonic talents.
Jahbulon
May 22, 2012, 5:37:16 PM5/22/12
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sutartsorric <sutart...@googlemail.com> wrote in
news:9f06eccf-7347-4be0...@f30g2000vbz.googlegroups.com:
> Presumably, he is not going to be short of a million
> or two when he gets out and a donation here or there
> will get him everywhere with freemasonry; it did
> before and they dont seem to have changed since
> his trial.
Why should Freemasons change: Freemasonry makes the mediocre rich and
promotes the sub-standard to positions of which they could only dream?
news:9f06eccf-7347-4be0...@f30g2000vbz.googlegroups.com:
> Presumably, he is not going to be short of a million
> or two when he gets out and a donation here or there
> will get him everywhere with freemasonry; it did
> before and they dont seem to have changed since
> his trial.
promotes the sub-standard to positions of which they could only dream?
Tony Dragon
May 22, 2012, 6:51:17 PM5/22/12
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On 22/05/2012 22:33, Jahbulon wrote:
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:WNWdneTKbZ-onCHS...@bt.com:
>
>> So desperate that you ignore the thread.
>
> Merely answering your question about "francis."
>
Evasion & editing noted.
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:WNWdneTKbZ-onCHS...@bt.com:
>
>> So desperate that you ignore the thread.
>
> Merely answering your question about "francis."
>
Tony Dragon
May 22, 2012, 6:53:06 PM5/22/12
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On 22/05/2012 22:34, Jahbulon wrote:
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:0JudnZ5SEohGaSbS...@bt.com:
>
>> Are you saying that Francis is a Mason or
>> are you saying that Francis has Masonic talents.
>
> Yes.
>
So to get it straight you are saying that Francis is a Mason with
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:0JudnZ5SEohGaSbS...@bt.com:
>
>> Are you saying that Francis is a Mason or
>> are you saying that Francis has Masonic talents.
>
> Yes.
>
Masonic talents, even though IIRC Francis has said that he is not a Mason.
francis
May 23, 2012, 5:37:10 AM5/23/12
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On May 22, 8:32 pm, sutartsorric <sutartsor...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 8:15 pm, Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
>
> > francis <francis.mall...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:9b18355e-0966-4ede...@l5g2000vbo.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > Evidence of all of those claims please.
> > > Evidence of that claim please.
> > > Evidence that Freemasonry is a religion?
> > > Evidence that Freemasonry will look after him?
> > > Evidence that Kenneth Noye is a Grand Master.
> > > Evidence of this statement?
> > > Evidence for this statement?
>
> > Surely with your Masonic talents and abilities you can do better than
> > simply demand evidence all the time?
>
> I dont think that their sworn oaths allow them to say anything other
> than that.
>
What sworn oaths would that be?
> On May 22, 8:15 pm, Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
>
> > francis <francis.mall...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:9b18355e-0966-4ede...@l5g2000vbo.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > Evidence of all of those claims please.
> > > Evidence of that claim please.
> > > Evidence that Freemasonry is a religion?
> > > Evidence that Freemasonry will look after him?
> > > Evidence that Kenneth Noye is a Grand Master.
> > > Evidence of this statement?
> > > Evidence for this statement?
>
> > Surely with your Masonic talents and abilities you can do better than
> > simply demand evidence all the time?
>
> I dont think that their sworn oaths allow them to say anything other
> than that.
>
> It certainly prohibits them from providing evidence to the contrary,
> which is why they always change the subject when they are asked about
> it.
a comment on it.
It is not up to me to provide evidence to the contary, it is up to the
person making the claim to produce evidence.
francis
May 23, 2012, 5:41:10 AM5/23/12
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On May 22, 10:34 pm, Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote innews:0JudnZ5SEohGaSbS...@bt.com:
> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote innews:0JudnZ5SEohGaSbS...@bt.com:
>
> > Are you saying that Francis is a Mason or
> > are you saying that Francis has Masonic talents.
>
> Yes.
>
> --
>
> Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Can I add that to my CV, citing you as a reference?
> > Are you saying that Francis is a Mason or
> > are you saying that Francis has Masonic talents.
>
> Yes.
>
> --
>
> Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
sutartsorric
May 23, 2012, 5:48:21 AM5/23/12
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On May 23, 10:37 am, francis <francis.mall...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 8:32 pm, sutartsorric <sutartsor...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Surely with your Masonic talents and abilities you can do better than
> > > simply demand evidence all the time?
>
> > I dont think that their sworn oaths allow them to say anything other
> > than that.
>
> What sworn oaths would that be?
>
I, _________, of my own free will and accord, in the presence of
> On May 22, 8:32 pm, sutartsorric <sutartsor...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Surely with your Masonic talents and abilities you can do better than
> > > simply demand evidence all the time?
>
> > I dont think that their sworn oaths allow them to say anything other
> > than that.
>
> What sworn oaths would that be?
>
Almighty God, and this Worshipful Lodge, erected to Him and dedicated
to the holy St. John, do hereby and hereon most solemnly and sincerely
promise and swear, that I will hail, ever conceal, and never reveal
any of the secrets, arts, parts, point or points, of the Master
Mason's Degree, to any person or persons whomsoever, except that it be
a true and lawful brother of this Degree, or in a regularly
constituted Lodge of Master Masons, nor unto him, or them, until by
strict trial, due examination, or lawful information, I shall have
found him, or them, as lawfully entitled to the same as I am myself. I
furthermore promise and swear, that I will stand to and abide by all
laws, rules, and regulations of the Master Masons Degree, and of the
Lodge of which I may hereafter become a member, as far as the same
shall come to my knowledge; and that I will ever maintain and support
the Constitution, laws, and edicts of the Grand Lodge under which the
same shall be holden. Further, that I will acknowledge and obey all
due signs and summons sent to me from a Master Masons' Lodge, or given
me by a brother of that Degree, if within the length of my cable tow.
Further, that I will always aid and assist all poor, distressed,
worthy Master Masons, their widows and orphans, knowing them to be
such, as far as their necessities may require, and my ability permit,
without material injury to myself and family. Further, that I will
keep a worthy brother Master Mason's secrets inviolable, when
communicated to and received by me as such, murder and treason
excepted. Further, that I will not aid, nor be present at, the
initiation, passing, or raising of a woman, an old man in his dotage,
a young man in his nonage, an atheist, a madman, or fool, knowing them
to be such. Further, that I will not sit in a Lodge of Clandestine-
made Masons, nor converse on the subject of Masonry with a clandestine-
made Mason, nor one who has been expelled or suspended from a Lodge,
while under that sentence, knowing him or them to be such. Further, I
will not cheat, wrong, nor defraud a Master Masons' Lodge, nor a
brother of this Degree, knowingly, nor supplant him in any of his
laudable undertakings, but will give him due and timely notice, that
he may ward off all danger. Further, that I will not knowingly strike
a brother Master Mason, or otherwise do him personal violence in
anger, except in the necessary defense of my family or property.
Further, that I will not have illegal carnal intercourse with a Master
Mason's wife, his mother, sister, or daughter knowing them to be such,
nor suffer the same to be done by others, if in my power to prevent.
Further, that I will not give the Grand Masonic word, in any other
manner or form than that in which I shall receive it, and then in a
low breath. Further, that I will not give the Grand Hailing Sign of
distress except in case of the most imminent danger, in a just and
lawful Lodge, or for the benefit of instruction; and if ever I should
see it given, or hear the words accompanying it, by a worthy brother
in distress, I will fly to his relief, if there is a greater
probability of saving his life than losing my own. All this I most
solemnly, sincerely promise and swear, with a firm and steady
resolution to perform the same, without any hesitation, myself, under
no less penalty than that of having my body severed in two, my bowels
taken from thence and burned to ashes, the ashes scattered before the
four winds of heaven, that no more remembrance might be had of so vile
and wicked a wretch as I would be, should I ever, knowingly, violate
this my Master Mason's obligation. So help me God, and keep me
steadfast in the due performance of the same.
francis
May 23, 2012, 5:39:54 AM5/23/12
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On May 22, 9:30 pm, Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote innews:0JudnZlSEoiyaCbS...@bt.com:
That would be your version of 'overwhelming evidence', but as dont
seem to be able to provide evidence of your claims we can dissmiss
that.
> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote innews:0JudnZlSEoiyaCbS...@bt.com:
seem to be able to provide evidence of your claims we can dissmiss
that.
Jahbulon
May 23, 2012, 6:23:26 AM5/23/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:W_KdnY0hRtxOhSHS...@bt.com:
> So to get it straight you are saying that Francis
> is a Mason with Masonic talents, even though IIRC
> Francis has said that he is not a Mason.
sutartsorric
May 23, 2012, 6:26:03 AM5/23/12
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Jahbulon
May 23, 2012, 6:54:13 AM5/23/12
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"Geopelia" <Geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:jphsvr$vaj$1...@dont-email.me:
> Isn't the trial still going on?
Yes.
> Has he said he is a Freemason,
Yes.
> or that he killed the victims because he is a
> Freemason, or "The Freemasons made me do it"?
Freemasonry helped Brother Anders Behring Breivik execute his crimes but
refuses to do anything for his victims.
> Being a female, I regard the Freemasons as a harmless
> social club with dressing up and rituals, but not the
> sort of thing I would want to join even if they would
> have me. Secret societies are for kids.
You probably would not think that if you were one of the people Freemasons
killed at Ronan Point on their Freemason Estate.
> And as for religion, aren't any members' religions acceptable?
> Don't they just have to believe in a Supreme Being?
As one gets higher-up into Freemasonry, one has to worship the Freemason
god, Jahbulon, a word they are not allowed to use outside a Masonic Temple.
Freemasonry teaches that those who are not in Freemason families are
worthless, as their Brother Anders Behring Breivik demonstrated on 22 July
2011.
> Don't people join because it is
> good for business or something?
Do you mean people support Freemasonry because if they did not Freemasons
would put them out of business?
> If I joined a political party would the party
> be responsible for any of my misdeeds?
Depends what that political party did, doesn't it?
news:jphsvr$vaj$1...@dont-email.me:
> Isn't the trial still going on?
Yes.
> Has he said he is a Freemason,
Yes.
> or that he killed the victims because he is a
> Freemason, or "The Freemasons made me do it"?
Freemasonry helped Brother Anders Behring Breivik execute his crimes but
refuses to do anything for his victims.
> Being a female, I regard the Freemasons as a harmless
> social club with dressing up and rituals, but not the
> sort of thing I would want to join even if they would
> have me. Secret societies are for kids.
You probably would not think that if you were one of the people Freemasons
killed at Ronan Point on their Freemason Estate.
> And as for religion, aren't any members' religions acceptable?
> Don't they just have to believe in a Supreme Being?
As one gets higher-up into Freemasonry, one has to worship the Freemason
god, Jahbulon, a word they are not allowed to use outside a Masonic Temple.
Freemasonry teaches that those who are not in Freemason families are
worthless, as their Brother Anders Behring Breivik demonstrated on 22 July
2011.
> Don't people join because it is
> good for business or something?
Do you mean people support Freemasonry because if they did not Freemasons
would put them out of business?
> If I joined a political party would the party
> be responsible for any of my misdeeds?
Depends what that political party did, doesn't it?
francis
May 23, 2012, 8:07:49 AM5/23/12
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On May 23, 11:23 am, Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote innews:W_KdnY0hRtxOhSHS...@bt.com:
> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote innews:W_KdnY0hRtxOhSHS...@bt.com:
>
> > So to get it straight you are saying that Francis
> > is a Mason with Masonic talents, even though IIRC
> > Francis has said that he is not a Mason.
>
> Yes.
>
> --
>
> Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Wrong again, but you're used to that.
> > So to get it straight you are saying that Francis
> > is a Mason with Masonic talents, even though IIRC
> > Francis has said that he is not a Mason.
>
> Yes.
>
> --
>
> Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
francis
May 23, 2012, 8:11:09 AM5/23/12
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On May 23, 11:54 am, Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
> "Geopelia" <Geope...@nowhere.com> wrote innews:jphsvr$vaj$1...@dont-email.me:
So according to you I am a Freemason.
According to you Freemasons can't use the word 'Jahbulon,'
Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,
Care to explain that?
> "Geopelia" <Geope...@nowhere.com> wrote innews:jphsvr$vaj$1...@dont-email.me:
According to you Freemasons can't use the word 'Jahbulon,'
Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,
Care to explain that?
francis
May 23, 2012, 8:08:37 AM5/23/12
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Jahbulon
May 23, 2012, 8:17:45 AM5/23/12
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"Geopelia" <Geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:jpijal$dis$1...@dont-email.me:
> Isn't that just another name for Jehovah?
No.
> I doubt that.
You are a Freemasons and I claim my £10.
> If any Freemasons read this, would they be
> allowed to comment and set the record straight?
You removed alt.freemasonry from the groups header.
news:jpijal$dis$1...@dont-email.me:
> Isn't that just another name for Jehovah?
No.
> I doubt that.
You are a Freemasons and I claim my £10.
> If any Freemasons read this, would they be
> allowed to comment and set the record straight?
You removed alt.freemasonry from the groups header.
francis
May 23, 2012, 8:06:37 AM5/23/12
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Jahbulon
May 23, 2012, 10:56:40 AM5/23/12
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"Mrcheerful" <g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:YV4vr.687801$o93.4...@fx05.am4:
>> How does one identify a person as a Freemason?
>
> You are the one that states there are witnesses that
> have identified the accused as being the perpetrator
> and that he is a Freemason.
You have not answered my question and your statement above is untrue in a
Masonic way.
> Earlier you said that you knew the identity
> of such a witness. Please can you give a
> name to that witness so I can check it out.
The fact that Anders Behring Breivik is one of your brother Freemasons is
not in dispute, neither are his 77 Masonic murders of 22 July 2011.
news:YV4vr.687801$o93.4...@fx05.am4:
>> How does one identify a person as a Freemason?
>
> You are the one that states there are witnesses that
> have identified the accused as being the perpetrator
> and that he is a Freemason.
You have not answered my question and your statement above is untrue in a
Masonic way.
> Earlier you said that you knew the identity
> of such a witness. Please can you give a
> name to that witness so I can check it out.
The fact that Anders Behring Breivik is one of your brother Freemasons is
not in dispute, neither are his 77 Masonic murders of 22 July 2011.
Mrcheerful
May 23, 2012, 11:48:07 AM5/23/12
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I ask once again for you to name your alleged witness to the alleged murders
that can state that the accused is a Freemason.
You are the one that is shouting the odds about Freemasons.
You are the one that has stated that umpteen people are Freemasons, show
some proof of your allegations.
Either put up or shut up.
Jahbulon
May 23, 2012, 12:49:37 PM5/23/12
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"Mrcheerful" <g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:9M7vr.686639$H11....@fx23.am4:
> Whether the accused is a Freemason is in dispute,
> I am disputing it. I ask once again for you to name
> your alleged witness to the alleged murders that
> can state that the accused is a Freemason. You are
> the one that is shouting the odds about Freemasons.
I hope you do not mind me pointing out that most of the witnesses to the 22
July 2011 Masonic murder of 77 innocent teenage children by your Brother
Anders Behring Breivik are dead because that Freemason killed them at point
blank range owing to Freemasonry teaching that anyone who is not in a
Freemason family is worthless.
> You are the one that has stated that umpteen people
> are Freemasons, show some proof of your allegations.
Why do you need a combined witness to the admitted facts that Brother
Anders Behring Breivik is a Freemason and that this particular Freemason
murdered 77 innocent teenage children?
news:9M7vr.686639$H11....@fx23.am4:
> Whether the accused is a Freemason is in dispute,
> I am disputing it. I ask once again for you to name
> your alleged witness to the alleged murders that
> can state that the accused is a Freemason. You are
> the one that is shouting the odds about Freemasons.
July 2011 Masonic murder of 77 innocent teenage children by your Brother
Anders Behring Breivik are dead because that Freemason killed them at point
blank range owing to Freemasonry teaching that anyone who is not in a
Freemason family is worthless.
> You are the one that has stated that umpteen people
> are Freemasons, show some proof of your allegations.
Anders Behring Breivik is a Freemason and that this particular Freemason
murdered 77 innocent teenage children?
Tony Dragon
May 23, 2012, 12:56:04 PM5/23/12
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On 23/05/2012 17:49, Jahbulon wrote:
> "Mrcheerful"<g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:9M7vr.686639$H11....@fx23.am4:
>
>> Whether the accused is a Freemason is in dispute,
>> I am disputing it. I ask once again for you to name
>> your alleged witness to the alleged murders that
>> can state that the accused is a Freemason. You are
>> the one that is shouting the odds about Freemasons.
>
> I hope you do not mind me pointing out that most of the witnesses to the 22
> July 2011 Masonic murder of 77 innocent teenage children by your Brother
> Anders Behring Breivik are dead because that Freemason killed them at point
> blank range owing to Freemasonry teaching that anyone who is not in a
> Freemason family is worthless.
>
You can point it out, but you have still not answered the question.
> "Mrcheerful"<g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:9M7vr.686639$H11....@fx23.am4:
>
>> Whether the accused is a Freemason is in dispute,
>> I am disputing it. I ask once again for you to name
>> your alleged witness to the alleged murders that
>> can state that the accused is a Freemason. You are
>> the one that is shouting the odds about Freemasons.
>
> I hope you do not mind me pointing out that most of the witnesses to the 22
> July 2011 Masonic murder of 77 innocent teenage children by your Brother
> Anders Behring Breivik are dead because that Freemason killed them at point
> blank range owing to Freemasonry teaching that anyone who is not in a
> Freemason family is worthless.
>
(And don't do your usual thing of trying to twist the answer)
>> You are the one that has stated that umpteen people
>> are Freemasons, show some proof of your allegations.
>
> Why do you need a combined witness to the admitted facts that Brother
> Anders Behring Breivik is a Freemason and that this particular Freemason
> murdered 77 innocent teenage children?
>
answer it.
Mrcheerful
May 23, 2012, 12:59:07 PM5/23/12
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Please can you name one witness that has said they were 'Masonic murders'?
Jahbulon
May 23, 2012, 4:03:17 PM5/23/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:e4KdnVQ6hLU4iyDS...@bt.com:
> Does it matter (and we don't know that
> your statement is correct), just answer it.
Jahbulon
May 23, 2012, 4:05:38 PM5/23/12
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"Mrcheerful" <g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:JR8vr.661692$2R.6...@fx19.am4:
> you stated 'there are multiple witnesses
> to the Masonic murder of ....'
>
> Please can you name one witness that
> has said they were 'Masonic murders'?
So, according to you, complaints about Freemason murders are either
plagiarism or baseless.
news:JR8vr.661692$2R.6...@fx19.am4:
> you stated 'there are multiple witnesses
> to the Masonic murder of ....'
>
> Please can you name one witness that
> has said they were 'Masonic murders'?
plagiarism or baseless.
Tony Dragon
May 23, 2012, 4:13:07 PM5/23/12
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On 23/05/2012 21:03, Jahbulon wrote:
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:e4KdnVQ6hLU4iyDS...@bt.com:
>
>> Does it matter (and we don't know that
>> your statement is correct), just answer it.
>
> Yes, it does matter.
>
More evasion noted.
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:e4KdnVQ6hLU4iyDS...@bt.com:
>
>> Does it matter (and we don't know that
>> your statement is correct), just answer it.
>
> Yes, it does matter.
>
Tony Dragon
May 23, 2012, 4:14:18 PM5/23/12
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On 23/05/2012 21:05, Jahbulon wrote:
> "Mrcheerful"<g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:JR8vr.661692$2R.6...@fx19.am4:
>
>> you stated 'there are multiple witnesses
>> to the Masonic murder of ....'
>>
>> Please can you name one witness that
>> has said they were 'Masonic murders'?
>
> So, according to you, complaints about Freemason murders are either
> plagiarism or baseless.
>
If you read that from his post, you are desperate.
> "Mrcheerful"<g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:JR8vr.661692$2R.6...@fx19.am4:
>
>> you stated 'there are multiple witnesses
>> to the Masonic murder of ....'
>>
>> Please can you name one witness that
>> has said they were 'Masonic murders'?
>
> So, according to you, complaints about Freemason murders are either
> plagiarism or baseless.
>
Jahbulon
May 23, 2012, 4:34:27 PM5/23/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:LdGdnSqXf5JJ2SDS...@bt.com:
>>> Does it matter (and we don't know that
>>> your statement is correct), just answer it.
>>
>> Yes, it does matter.
>
> More evasion noted.
Masonic way of thinking?
Jahbulon
May 23, 2012, 4:35:50 PM5/23/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:LdGdnSWXf5KB2CDS...@bt.com:
> If you read that from his post,
> you are desperate.
Tony Dragon
May 23, 2012, 5:50:47 PM5/23/12
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On 23/05/2012 21:35, Jahbulon wrote:
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:LdGdnSWXf5KB2CDS...@bt.com:
>
>> If you read that from his post,
>> you are desperate.
>
> Desperate for what?
>
Just desperate.
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:LdGdnSWXf5KB2CDS...@bt.com:
>
>> If you read that from his post,
>> you are desperate.
>
> Desperate for what?
>
Tony Dragon
May 23, 2012, 5:50:22 PM5/23/12
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On 23/05/2012 21:34, Jahbulon wrote:
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:LdGdnSqXf5JJ2SDS...@bt.com:
>
>>>> Does it matter (and we don't know that
>>>> your statement is correct), just answer it.
>>>
>>> Yes, it does matter.
>>
>> More evasion noted.
>
> Answering "does it matter" with "yes, it does matter," is an evasion to the
> Masonic way of thinking?
>
Evasion of the question earlier in this thread noted.
> Tony Dragon<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
> news:LdGdnSqXf5JJ2SDS...@bt.com:
>
>>>> Does it matter (and we don't know that
>>>> your statement is correct), just answer it.
>>>
>>> Yes, it does matter.
>>
>> More evasion noted.
>
> Answering "does it matter" with "yes, it does matter," is an evasion to the
> Masonic way of thinking?
>
Geopelia
May 23, 2012, 6:31:04 PM5/23/12
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"Jahbulon" <inv...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote in message
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> "Geopelia" <Geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in
> news:jpijal$dis$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> Isn't that just another name for Jehovah?
>
> No.
>
>> I doubt that.
>
> You are a Freemasons and I claim my Ł10.
> news:jpijal$dis$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> Isn't that just another name for Jehovah?
>
> No.
>
>> I doubt that.
>
>
>> If any Freemasons read this, would they be
>> allowed to comment and set the record straight?
>
> You removed alt.freemasonry from the groups header.
>
I'll go and have a look. I usually remove cross postings.
>> If any Freemasons read this, would they be
>> allowed to comment and set the record straight?
>
> You removed alt.freemasonry from the groups header.
>
Jahbulon
May 24, 2012, 5:20:18 AM5/24/12
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francis <francis...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7dea8308-5504-42bc...@l17g2000vbj.googlegroups.com:
>> I am sure if you check you will discover "francis" did
>> claim he could prove that Jahbulon is not the holy god
>> of Royal Arch Freemasonry, and that it is reasonable for
>> "francis" to do so, but the overwhelming evidence is that
>> "francis" was lying on behalf of the Freemason religion.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3qscvcj
Masonic talents and abilities?
news:7dea8308-5504-42bc...@l17g2000vbj.googlegroups.com:
>> I am sure if you check you will discover "francis" did
>> claim he could prove that Jahbulon is not the holy god
>> of Royal Arch Freemasonry, and that it is reasonable for
>> "francis" to do so, but the overwhelming evidence is that
>> "francis" was lying on behalf of the Freemason religion.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3qscvcj
> That would be your version of 'overwhelming evidence',
> but as dont seem to be able to provide evidence of your
> claims we can dissmiss that.
Are the mouse clicks needed to access Google Groups really beyond your
> but as dont seem to be able to provide evidence of your
> claims we can dissmiss that.
Masonic talents and abilities?
Jahbulon
May 24, 2012, 5:24:09 AM5/24/12
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francis <francis...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bf44eb37-9ccc-483e...@p27g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:
> That's ok then, I've never sworn that oath.
Now you're changing the subject.
news:bf44eb37-9ccc-483e...@p27g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:
> That's ok then, I've never sworn that oath.
Jahbulon
May 24, 2012, 5:25:11 AM5/24/12
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francis <francis...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:4e717ec4-be1d-4a1a...@ec4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
> Wrong again, but you're used to that.
Is that supposed to be an insult?
news:4e717ec4-be1d-4a1a...@ec4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
> Wrong again, but you're used to that.
Jahbulon
May 24, 2012, 5:26:28 AM5/24/12
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francis <francis...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:a020e68a-af83-4491...@8g2000vbu.googlegroups.com:
>> > Are you saying that Francis is a Mason or
>> > are you saying that Francis has Masonic talents.
>>
>> Yes.
> Can I add that to my CV, citing you as a reference?
Did you intend "may I?"
news:a020e68a-af83-4491...@8g2000vbu.googlegroups.com:
>> > Are you saying that Francis is a Mason or
>> > are you saying that Francis has Masonic talents.
>>
>> Yes.
> Can I add that to my CV, citing you as a reference?
Did you intend "may I?"
sutartsorric
May 24, 2012, 5:33:28 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 10:24 am, Jahbulon <inva...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
able to admit it because the oath prohibits him from doing so.
It may also be that the oath he has sworn differed in only one word
from the one in the earlier post, so he considers that he is quite
within his rights to state that he has not sworn that particular oath.
This is the problem with these people; they feel under such strict
external control that they can only resort to wriggling and deviation
from the main subjects, in order not to disobey their central
programming.
> francis <francis.mall...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:bf44eb37-9ccc-483e...@p27g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:
>
> > That's ok then, I've never sworn that oath.
>
> Now you're changing the subject.
>
But the irony is that even if he had sworn that oath, he would not be
>
> > That's ok then, I've never sworn that oath.
>
> Now you're changing the subject.
>
able to admit it because the oath prohibits him from doing so.
It may also be that the oath he has sworn differed in only one word
from the one in the earlier post, so he considers that he is quite
within his rights to state that he has not sworn that particular oath.
This is the problem with these people; they feel under such strict
external control that they can only resort to wriggling and deviation
from the main subjects, in order not to disobey their central
programming.
Jahbulon
May 24, 2012, 5:38:19 AM5/24/12
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francis <francis...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7cc4b315-30df-4dc7...@s9g2000vbg.googlegroups.com:
> So according to you I am a Freemason.
In our terms, yes; perhaps not in your twisted Masonic language.
> According to you Freemasons can't use the word 'Jahbulon,'
>
> Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,
> Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,
>
> Care to explain that?
Certainly. You're a loyal fraudulent Freemason who joined for the material
benefits, and who is not sufficiently stupid to believe in any god,
including Jahbulon, the holy god of Royal Arch Freemasonry.
Happy?
Other fraudulent Freemasons, who do not seriously believe in a supreme
being, include Australia's leading Christian, Brother Reverend Dr. Rowland
Croucher.
news:7cc4b315-30df-4dc7...@s9g2000vbg.googlegroups.com:
> So according to you I am a Freemason.
> According to you Freemasons can't use the word 'Jahbulon,'
>
> Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,
> Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,Jahbulon,
>
> Care to explain that?
benefits, and who is not sufficiently stupid to believe in any god,
including Jahbulon, the holy god of Royal Arch Freemasonry.
Happy?
Other fraudulent Freemasons, who do not seriously believe in a supreme
being, include Australia's leading Christian, Brother Reverend Dr. Rowland
Croucher.
Jahbulon
May 24, 2012, 5:40:00 AM5/24/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:59Kdncjo2ZQDxiDS...@bt.com:
>>>>> Does it matter (and we don't know that
>>>>> your statement is correct), just answer it.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it does matter.
>>>
>>> More evasion noted.
>>
>> Answering "does it matter" with "yes, it does matter,"
>> is an evasion to the Masonic way of thinking?
>
> Evasion of the question earlier in this thread noted.
Answering "does it matter" with "yes, it does matter," is an evasion to the
Masonic way of thinking?
Jahbulon
May 24, 2012, 5:40:53 AM5/24/12
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Tony Dragon <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:59Kdncvo2ZQqxiDS...@bt.com:
>>> If you read that from his post,
>>> you are desperate.
>>
>> Desperate for what?
>
> Just desperate.
Jahbulon
May 24, 2012, 5:46:07 AM5/24/12
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sutartsorric <sutart...@googlemail.com> wrote in
news:a8f26541-8343-4103...@w13g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> This is the problem with these people; they feel under
> such strict external control that they can only resort
> to wriggling and deviation from the main subjects, in
> order not to disobey their central programming.
Too true, but that's not the only deviation common in Freemasonry, as we
know from, inter alia, their Brother Derek Slade, who is currently serving
21 year in prison for child sex abuse.
news:a8f26541-8343-4103...@w13g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> This is the problem with these people; they feel under
> such strict external control that they can only resort
> to wriggling and deviation from the main subjects, in
> order not to disobey their central programming.
know from, inter alia, their Brother Derek Slade, who is currently serving
21 year in prison for child sex abuse.
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