> Non Anal Josh wrote: >> Me thinks the man must protest to much. Ad why is mental illness an >> insult. Seems rather biggoted to me.t
>> and If you have something to >> add to this thread other than slander & defamation of character then >> by all means post it.
> And do you have something to add to this group other than kooky link > jumping and crop circles?
Crops Circles are a interesting subject on geometry plus they are sublime in nature so that's two hits close to Freemasonry! Just because you think they are kooky and anyone who post anything on them here is kooky is your problem,they are a mystery such like Freemasonry is.
Well when we all start confessing to our misgivings Jim I chime in along with the rest of you sinners.Until then this condescending action you and others have tried is not going to work and frankly it's disgusting! Your incognito friend there that hides in the shadows is a coward and ask stupid questions,good company you keep there.You and others here can ASScertain any conclusion you wish. See if I care and this intimidation is going to be fruitless.So go now and tell all, he didn't answer so he must be.Your showing your true self Jim,it's great you have!
> Well when we all start confessing to our misgivings Jim I chime in > along with the rest of you sinners.Until then this condescending action > you and others have tried is not going to work and frankly it's > disgusting! Your incognito friend there that hides in the shadows is a > coward and ask stupid questions,good company you keep there.You and others > here can ASScertain any conclusion you wish. See if I care and this > intimidation is going to be fruitless.So go now and tell all, he didn't > answer so he must be.Your showing your true self Jim,it's great you have!
All of this doesn't hide the fact you are still avoiding his simple question.
Freemasonry is simply a dining society. It cooks pancakes so that youth groups can publish magazines that require lodges to buy adds.
There is no room for any of this "symbolism" crap.
"Freemasonry is a peculiar system of morality veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols."
But the symbols mean exactly what the ritual says they mean. They have no connection, either directly or indirectly, with any philosophical system that ever existed on the planet. It just sprang free-form and independently out of London in 1717 fully formed and intact just as it has been handed down today.
Oh wait a minute. They didn't confer the third degree in 1717? Oh, it didn't even exist in 1717? Hmmm...then it was an innovation! It must be removed, because it is not part of Freemasonry.
All Masonic symbols are emblematic. They mean exactly what your Lodge Education Officer says they mean. He thinks they mean exactly what the ritual says they mean. There is no need to go doing all that "thinking" stuff. All the "thinking" has been done for you. It is easy, just sign the dotted line and pay your dues. That is all we ask. Oh, and give to the Grand Masters annual capital campaign.
Freemasonry is not esoteric; it is emblematic.
Masons do not have the capcity to think on their own; they believe what they are told.
> All of this doesn't hide the fact you are still avoiding his simple > question.
I have nothing to hide.Your absurd question is a cheap shot Jim with that I will let you ASSume what you think is the case and now go hide with that U.K. buddy who is a coward and has no honor.You seem to like his style!Maybe it has rubbed off on you.Oh! Your tactics are shameful and irresponsible for a Freemason. So mote it be.
(Then) ain't going to happen. Are you just dense or what? Now go start claiming he won't answer and try to discredit my character before all.It ain't going to work and who ever is with you now on this train of defamation is still with you but I doubt seriously it will change anybody else's mind who is neutral.
So answer yes or no are you dense or just plain stupid?
> (Then) ain't going to happen. Are you just dense or what? Now go > start claiming he won't answer and try to discredit my character before > all.It ain't going to work and who ever is with you now on this train of > defamation is still with you but I doubt seriously it will change anybody > else's mind who is neutral.
> So answer yes or no are you dense or just plain stupid?
On Apr 3, 10:53 am, "Alan K.Johnson" <ajohnson...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >
> Crops Circles are a interesting subject on geometry plus they are > sublime in nature so that's two hits close to Freemasonry! Just because you > think they are kooky and anyone who post anything on them here is kooky is > your problem,they are a mystery such like Freemasonry is.
> Keith
Which is why people ask if you have a mental health diagnosis. Maybe there is a reason you won't answer the question.
Alan K.Johnson wrote: >>Then answer "yes" or "no."
> (Then) ain't going to happen. Are you just dense or what? Now go > start claiming he won't answer and try to discredit my character before > all.It ain't going to work and who ever is with you now on this train of > defamation is still with you but I doubt seriously it will change anybody > else's mind who is neutral.
> So answer yes or no are you dense or just plain stupid?
Bravo...This time I will hold my breath...(wink)
P.S. It seems to me it is more to distract you from posting and to get you on defensive side...worse, it seems to be working..why not ignore it and move on?
Easy said than done? Don't worry, we are all getting in their games from time to time.
dinnac...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: > Nope. No defamation. Didn't say anything about you.
Yes, you said his postings are bizarre so you don't only ask you imply that he actually might have mental problem and in your last post you suggest he might live on social benefits.
Just to inform you, this game has already been played here to discourage people with whom masons disagree from posting.
> dinnac...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: > > Nope. No defamation. Didn't say anything about you.
> Yes, you said his postings are bizarre so you don't only ask > you imply that he actually might have mental problem and in your last > post you suggest he might live on social benefits.
> Just to inform you, this game has already been played here to discourage > people with whom masons disagree from posting.
> dinnac...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: > > Nope. No defamation. Didn't say anything about you.
> Yes, you said his postings are bizarre so you don't only ask > you imply that he actually might have mental problem and in your last > post you suggest he might live on social benefits.
Nope, asked.
Didn't imply a mental problem by asking, anymore than he implied one by failing to answer if he had a mental health diagnosis.
>"Tom Accuosti" <taccuost...@VIRUSsbcglobal.net> wrote in message >news:FsvQh.13379$Um6.253@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net... >> Non Anal Josh wrote: >>> Me thinks the man must protest to much. Ad why is mental illness an >>> insult. Seems rather biggoted to me.t
>>> and If you have something to >>> add to this thread other than slander & defamation of character then >>> by all means post it.
>> And do you have something to add to this group other than kooky link >> jumping and crop circles?
> Crops Circles are a interesting subject on geometry plus they are >sublime in nature so that's two hits close to Freemasonry! Just because you >think they are kooky and anyone who post anything on them here is kooky is >your problem,they are a mystery such like Freemasonry is.
> Keith
Why on earth would you think that crop circles are "sublime"? That certainly fits the definition of kooky. -- Regards David Simpson (Unattached MM. Victoria, Australia) Bad manners should not be a capital crime ... for a first offence. Paraphrasing Robert Heinlein,
>> All of this doesn't hide the fact you are still avoiding his simple >> question.
> I have nothing to hide.Your absurd question is a cheap shot Jim with >that I will let you ASSume what you think is the case and now go hide with >that U.K. buddy who is a coward and has no honor.You seem to like his >style!Maybe it has rubbed off on you.Oh! Your tactics are shameful and >irresponsible for a Freemason. So mote it be.
> Keith
And you are still avoiding the question. Can't you answer yes or no? -- Regards David Simpson (Unattached MM. Victoria, Australia) Bad manners should not be a capital crime ... for a first offence. Paraphrasing Robert Heinlein,
> > Non Anal Josh wrote: > >> Me thinks the man must protest to much. Ad why is mental illness an > >> insult. Seems rather biggoted to me.t
> >> and If you have something to > >> add to this thread other than slander & defamation of character then > >> by all means post it.
> > And do you have something to add to this group other than kooky link > > jumping and crop circles?
> Crops Circles are a interesting subject on geometry plus they are > sublime in nature so that's two hits close to Freemasonry!
Mr. Johnson, there are countless shapes made by man and nature that are an "interesting subject on geometry", and there are countless objects and concepts that are sublime in nature. Are you trying to suggest that this makes all those things Masonic?
You really need to step back and look at the bigger picture,. Mr. Johnson.
> Just because you > think they are kooky and anyone who post anything on them here is kooky is > your problem,they are a mystery such like Freemasonry is.
No, Mr. Johnson, the discussion of crop circles in a crop circle- related newsgroup is not kooky, nor is the discussion of geometry in a geometry-related newsgroup. And exploring the sublime nature of anything is a fine hobby.
But, discussing them here, where the topic is Freemasonry is kooky. Assuming as you do that because geometry is used to describe crop circles and it happens to be one of the seven arts and sciences Freemasons are encouraged to study, crop circle are Masonic is, to be quite honest, kooky.
