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Charles

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May 19, 2013, 10:34:57 PM5/19/13
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How active masons are still in this echo?
is there anyone I can chat with???

Charles...


David Simpson

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May 20, 2013, 6:43:06 AM5/20/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 22:34:57 -0400, "Charles" <cwa...@sover.net>
wrote:

>How active masons are still in this echo?
>is there anyone I can chat with???
>
>Charles...
>
A few, many gave up with the signal to noise ratio just too high. What
would you like to talk about?
--
Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
20/05/2013

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Mudge

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May 20, 2013, 3:15:55 PM5/20/13
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On 2013-05-19 20:34:57 -0600, Charles said:

> How active masons are still in this echo?
> is there anyone I can chat with???

There are still a couple of us here who are not affected with Trollitis !

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Mudge

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May 20, 2013, 3:16:36 PM5/20/13
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On 2013-05-20 05:13:06 -0600, David Simpson said:

> A few, many gave up with the signal to noise ratio just too high. What
> would you like to talk about?

Indeed !

Charles

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May 20, 2013, 10:08:11 PM5/20/13
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"Mudge" <Nos...@never.ever> wrote in message
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Excellent... I need to chat with someone from the Washington D.C. lodge
eater voice or IRC about something from the Philadelphia lodge that went
missing around 1840... I need it.

Charles...



Mudge

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May 21, 2013, 3:27:46 PM5/21/13
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On 2013-05-20 20:08:11 -0600, Charles said:

> Excellent... I need to chat with someone from the Washington D.C.
> lodge eater voice or IRC about something from the Philadelphia lodge
> that went missing around 1840... I need it.

Sorry - I know nowt about either - you might try

http://www.masonic-network.com/

Someone there may be able to help - I think "Soc.org.freemasonry" has
gone dark !

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Fix the biosphere - eliminate people

Charles

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May 23, 2013, 10:46:33 PM5/23/13
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I am afraid that link will do no good, you see in 1840's the masons broke
away from the knights templer subgroup.
and the four keys were supposed to be turned over to the departing ( keys,
Philly,Boston, New York and Baltimore ) frankly I have located the New York
key but my cousin has taken up selling prophecy for money witch of course
denied me access ( I'd need at least 10 grand to gain access to that one )
so regaining the philly key is the only real choise I have now ( I it really
does mean I need to chat with someone in the Washington office who knows
what positons are in that building )

thanks
Charles

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David Simpson

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May 24, 2013, 12:34:38 AM5/24/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 22:46:33 -0400, "Charles" <cwa...@sover.net>
wrote:

>I am afraid that link will do no good, you see in 1840's the masons broke
>away from the knights templer subgroup.

Make it that at that time or earlier some Masons decided to form a new
group and called themselves Knights Templar. The original Knights
Templar having ceased to exist around the 1300s

>and the four keys were supposed to be turned over to the departing ( keys,
>Philly,Boston, New York and Baltimore ) frankly I have located the New York
>key but my cousin has taken up selling prophecy for money witch of course
>denied me access ( I'd need at least 10 grand to gain access to that one )
>so regaining the philly key is the only real choise I have now ( I it really
>does mean I need to chat with someone in the Washington office who knows
>what positons are in that building )
>
Why? Are you trying to rob the place?

Makes for a lovely conspiracy story. Such a shame it's not real.
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Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
24/05/2013

You are the only person to ever get this message.

Charles

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May 24, 2013, 10:11:05 PM5/24/13
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Oh... God no the knights templer group in the masons were the survivors of
the French attack of Friday Oct 13 1307
Remind me to tell you the story sometime... After that date they moved to
Scotland from Reiends France.

Charles

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David Simpson

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May 25, 2013, 4:51:33 AM5/25/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 22:11:05 -0400, "Charles" <cwa...@sover.net>
wrote:

>Oh... God no the knights templer group in the masons were the survivors of
>the French attack of Friday Oct 13 1307
>Remind me to tell you the story sometime... After that date they moved to
>Scotland from Reiends France.
>
>Charles
>
Cite!

It didn't happen.

That story has been made up by wishful thinkers who decided to create
a group and call it Knights Templar in memorial of the original group.

>"David Simpson" <Faro...@picknowl.com.au> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 23 May 2013 22:46:33 -0400, "Charles" <cwa...@sover.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I am afraid that link will do no good, you see in 1840's the masons broke
>>>away from the knights templer subgroup.
>>
>> Make it that at that time or earlier some Masons decided to form a new
>> group and called themselves Knights Templar. The original Knights
>> Templar having ceased to exist around the 1300s
>>
>>>and the four keys were supposed to be turned over to the departing ( keys,
>>>Philly,Boston, New York and Baltimore ) frankly I have located the New
>>>York
>>>key but my cousin has taken up selling prophecy for money witch of course
>>>denied me access ( I'd need at least 10 grand to gain access to that one )
>>>so regaining the philly key is the only real choise I have now ( I it
>>>really
>>>does mean I need to chat with someone in the Washington office who knows
>>>what positons are in that building )
>>>
>> Why? Are you trying to rob the place?
>>
>> Makes for a lovely conspiracy story. Such a shame it's not real.
--
Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
25/05/2013

Buy the negatives at any price.

Mudge

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May 25, 2013, 5:21:51 PM5/25/13
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On 2013-05-25 03:21:33 -0600, David Simpson said:

> That story has been made up by wishful thinkers who decided to create
> a group and call it Knights Templar in memorial of the original group.

Much as has been the entire Masonic thingy, the Bible and manynother
organisations !

Charles

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May 26, 2013, 9:56:53 PM5/26/13
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Actually, Thanks but no thanks seeing as many years ago I was I was being
trained in to KT its a true story as for the Key I have personally seen it
is use ( By the way weather you believe it or not we would have to chat
voice to any more of this )...


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David Simpson

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May 27, 2013, 4:33:20 AM5/27/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 21:56:53 -0400, "Charles" <cwa...@sover.net>
wrote:

>Actually, Thanks but no thanks seeing as many years ago I was I was being
>trained in to KT its a true story as for the Key I have personally seen it
>is use ( By the way weather you believe it or not we would have to chat
>voice to any more of this )...
>
Judging by your poor spelling you are easily taken in by fanciful
stories. In what other legends/conspiracies do you believe?>

>"Mudge" <Nos...@never.ever> wrote in message
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>> On 2013-05-25 03:21:33 -0600, David Simpson said:
>>
>>> That story has been made up by wishful thinkers who decided to create
>>> a group and call it Knights Templar in memorial of the original group.
>>
>> Much as has been the entire Masonic thingy, the Bible and manynother
>> organisations !
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Canadian Curmudgeon (in Calgary)
>> Fix the biosphere - eliminate people
>>
>
--
Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
27/05/2013

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Charles

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May 28, 2013, 10:26:38 PM5/28/13
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Seeing the replies I have bin getting I will not worry about it ( All though
you seem to make a really good knowledge blocker ) then I think I will see
if you are still around on June 22, As if you really are a mason you would
know what that date is ( X marks the date 06/21/2013 6:24 am edt )...


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David Simpson

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May 29, 2013, 4:41:21 AM5/29/13
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On Tue, 28 May 2013 22:26:38 -0400, "Charles" <cwa...@sover.net>
wrote:

>Seeing the replies I have bin getting I will not worry about it ( All though
>you seem to make a really good knowledge blocker ) then I think I will see
>if you are still around on June 22, As if you really are a mason you would
>know what that date is ( X marks the date 06/21/2013 6:24 am edt )...
>
In Australia, where I live, that would be 21/06/2013 And we are at
GMT+9.5 hours. This means the time you mention would actually be on
the day after that in my neck of the woods.

Just think about Lodges, they always meet on the meridian, or 12:00
Midday. Since Masonry is universal it stands to reason that it must
always be High Noon somewhere on Earth.
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Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
29/05/2013

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Mudge

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May 29, 2013, 12:16:08 PM5/29/13
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On 2013-05-29 03:11:21 -0600, David Simpson said:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 22:26:38 -0400, "Charles" wrote:
>
>> Seeing the replies I have bin getting I will not worry about it ( All though
>> you seem to make a really good knowledge blocker ) then I think I will see
>> if you are still around on June 22, As if you really are a mason you would
>> know what that date is ( X marks the date 06/21/2013 6:24 am edt )...
>>
> In Australia, where I live, that would be 21/06/2013 And we are at
> GMT+9.5 hours. This means the time you mention would actually be on
> the day after that in my neck of the woods.
>
> Just think about Lodges, they always meet on the meridian, or 12:00
> Midday. Since Masonry is universal it stands to reason that it must
> always be High Noon somewhere on Earth.

Which is good as somewhere on Earth there will be a bar open to provide
a wee dollop of something or other and there will be a Master Mason
doing his thing !

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zack.pers...@gmail.com

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Jun 3, 2013, 7:53:27 AM6/3/13
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I am a Freemason. I'm a Fellow Craft, from Bowling Green Lodge #73, BG Kentucky. I just got on this since I seen it so much mentioned on masonicinfo.com.

David Simpson

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On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 04:53:27 -0700 (PDT), zack.pers...@gmail.com
wrote:

>I am a Freemason. I'm a Fellow Craft, from Bowling Green Lodge #73, BG Kentucky. I just got on this since I seen it so much mentioned on masonicinfo.com.

Welcome Brother. You'll find precious little here unfortunately as the
trolls and misinformation idiots have mainly stifled reasonable
discourse. I am an unattached master mason from Australia, originally
Vermont 696 under the Victorian jurisdiction. I currently live in
South Australia. There are a few others who frequent this group, I've
no doubt they will introduce themselves as they see fit.
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Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
4/06/2013

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Mudge

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Jun 3, 2013, 4:12:07 PM6/3/13
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On 2013-06-03 14:25:57 -0600, David Simpson said:
> On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 04:53:27 -0700 (PDT), zack wrote:
>
>> I am a Freemason. I'm a Fellow Craft, from Bowling Green Lodge #73, BG
>> Kentucky. I just got on this since I seen it so much mentioned on
>> masonicinfo.com.
>
> Welcome Brother. You'll find precious little here unfortunately as the
> trolls and misinformation idiots have mainly stifled reasonable
> discourse. I am an unattached master mason from Australia, originally
> Vermont 696 under the Victorian jurisdiction. I currently live in
> South Australia. There are a few others who frequent this group, I've
> no doubt they will introduce themselves as they see fit.

David is quite right - nothing much here but multiposting nutbars - but
there are still a few of us here hoping for sane discussion.

--
The Canadian Curmudgeon (in 12C Calgary)

Peter

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Jun 3, 2013, 6:41:50 PM6/3/13
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On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 05:25:57 +0930, David Simpson
<Faro...@picknowl.com.au> wrote:

>On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 04:53:27 -0700 (PDT), zack.pers...@gmail.com
>wrote:
>
>>I am a Freemason. I'm a Fellow Craft, from Bowling Green Lodge #73, BG Kentucky. I just got on this since I seen it so much mentioned on masonicinfo.com.
>
>Welcome Brother. You'll find precious little here unfortunately as the
>trolls and misinformation idiots have mainly stifled reasonable
>discourse. I am an unattached master mason from Australia, originally
>Vermont 696 under the Victorian jurisdiction. I currently live in
>South Australia. There are a few others who frequent this group, I've
>no doubt they will introduce themselves as they see fit.

Hi Bro David,
696 no longer exists, I guess that when you
left, they thought there is no use continuing without David there.

But you have now shifted to the dark side (S.A) Great pity you do
not now get involved with the local Lodges. I went to Kyneton last
night and appreciated seeing a first degree conducted by part of the
exemplification team.

peter

David Simpson

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Jun 3, 2013, 11:05:32 PM6/3/13
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Thanks for that info. Unfortunately I have become an atheist so I
would feel uncomfortable in a lodge.

Last I heard of 696 my brother initiate was secretary and had just
received Grand Rank for service, that was many years ago after my
Father, who served as master, passed on.
--
Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
4/06/2013

It's all in the mind, ya know.

Charles

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Jun 6, 2013, 10:04:11 PM6/6/13
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wow how the masons have changed how much you people have forgotten, When the
Masons and the KT broke up in the 1840's
the KT formed new orgy's like for example "The Knights of the Southern
Cross" and "The Knights of Canada"
In my case I am the grand nephew of the last key master of the Holly order
of Scottish Knights /Templer at Argyle.

and frankly I have known almost all of life where the Bible is but I need
the key to get to it

thanks

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David Simpson

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Jun 7, 2013, 5:45:00 AM6/7/13
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On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 22:04:11 -0400, "Charles" <cwa...@sover.net>
wrote:

>wow how the masons have changed how much you people have forgotten, When the
>Masons and the KT broke up in the 1840's
>the KT formed new orgy's like for example "The Knights of the Southern
>Cross" and "The Knights of Canada"

The Knights of the Southern Cross are a Catholic organisation in
Australia and have no association with the Masons. The Knights of
Columbus, I believe, is similar.

The Knights Templar of Canada are a Knights Templar organisation and
an independent jurisdiction. There are many Knights Templar
organisations throughout the world, each is independent of all others
just like the Freemasons organisations, or Grand Lodges, are also
independent from each other.

Calling them "orgies", note correct spelling, gives further indication
that you are not of sound mind and are consumed by your desire for
there to be a great conspiracy which keeps secrets from you,
personally and deliberately.

>In my case I am the grand nephew of the last key master of the Holly order
>of Scottish Knights /Templer at Argyle.
>
They have an order dedicated to Holly leaves? The spelling is
"Templar" by the way.

>and frankly I have known almost all of life where the Bible is but I need
>the key to get to it
>

As a grand-nephew your great uncle would be unable to pass anything
down to you unless you were a Freemason and he was as well, of course.
The fact that you are a relative does not give you an automatic right
to obtain any of our secrets.

Note to Masons

These answers are not to feed the troll but to attempt to explode some
of the myths surrounding Freemasonry and associated and appendant
organisations. There are over three hundred Grand Lodges in the World,
no one Grand Lodge rules any other and all are independent of each
other.
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Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
7/06/2013

You'll never be the man your mother was!

Charles

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Jun 9, 2013, 10:12:57 PM6/9/13
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You know you really need to think before you say some of those things like
orgs its a well used abbreviation for the word "organizations" and no I wont
waste any more time going into the documented history that you are denying.

I have to wonder if you people have that little six sided table before you
lodge masters chair the one with the compartment inside?

If I were you stop calling people crazy it is so silly LOL...

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David Simpson

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Jun 10, 2013, 3:51:42 AM6/10/13
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On Sun, 9 Jun 2013 22:12:57 -0400, "Charles" <cwa...@sover.net>
wrote:

>You know you really need to think before you say some of those things like
>orgs its a well used abbreviation for the word "organizations" and no I wont
>waste any more time going into the documented history that you are denying.
>
Can you point me to a URL showing that documented history you are
claiming exists?

>I have to wonder if you people have that little six sided table before you
>lodge masters chair the one with the compartment inside?
>
As I stated earlier each grand lodge is a law unto itself and is not
beholden to any other. That is why your six-sided table does not exist
in my jurisdiction, there is no altar and other differences abound in
lodge furniture and customs.

In front of the Master's chair, in my jurisdiction, is a lectern
supporting the Volume of the Sacred Law and a reverse which supports
the candidate's VSL so he may take the obligation.

>If I were you stop calling people crazy it is so silly LOL...
>
I would only call someone crazy if their behaviour was so out of
kilter to the rest of society as to cause danger. Most conspiracy nuts
seem to fall into that category.
--
Regards
David Simpson

A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Kirk Richardson

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Mar 18, 2014, 7:54:49 AM3/18/14
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Bro. Dave

Been around a decade for me and back then I thought the sigan to noise ratio
was high. My GOODNESS was I wrong, it is absolutely atrocious now!

So how are things down under?

Kirk Richardson AKA Twitch23

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Mudge

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On 2014-03-18 05:54:49 -0600, Kirk Richardson" < said:

> Bro. Dave
>
> Been around a decade for me and back then I thought the sigan to noise
> ratio was high. My GOODNESS was I wrong, it is absolutely atrocious now!
>
> So how are things down under?
>
> Kirk Richardson AKA Twitch23

I think our Unattached Bro. Dave hgas probably gone to the Grand Lodge
above - have not heard from him for about a year either by email or via
the newsgroups. He had a stroke about 2 years ago and seemed to be
recovering.

I hope I am wrong about him - but who knows !

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Tom Accuosti

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Mar 18, 2014, 7:10:50 PM3/18/14
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On 03/18/2014 07:54 AM, Kirk Richardson < wrote:
> Bro. Dave
>
> Been around a decade for me and back then I thought the sigan to noise
> ratio was high. My GOODNESS was I wrong, it is absolutely atrocious now!
>
> So how are things down under?
>
> Kirk Richardson AKA Twitch23

Hey Kirk -

I already talked to you, but for the benefit of anyone happening by, the
only place similar to how alt.freemasonry used to be is now the
Freemasonry group on Reddit:

http://reddit.com/r/freemasonry

We have people from various jurisdictions, often disagreeing on how
Masonry should be, and arguing but without the trolls.

Best regards to everyone.


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Exalted Keeper of the Secrets of Freemasonariansim
Grand Sovereign Pontiff and Secret Enquisitor
Ambassador to Zeta-Reticula

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