Freemason tried to pressure police chief
Darth Simian
pressure the Chief Constable of North Wales into abandoning a
crackdown on officers being members of the Order.
Lord Kenyon telephoned the Chief Constable at a time when an unnamed
policeman was due to take a senior position in a masonic lodge, the
North Wales child abuse tribunal heard yesterday.
A former police officer and Mason, who has been accused of abuse by a
number of witnesses and who has spent two days giving evidence to the
tribunal, denied that he was the officer referred to. The ex-
policeman also denied that he had forgotten 15 visits to a children's
home.
Timothy King QC, counsel for a number of alleged victims of abuse,
asked the ex-policeman if he had been aware of the standing order
which "frowned" on serving officers being Freemasons. He also asked
him if he knew about "negotiations behind the scenes between the
grandmaster and the Chief Constable?"
He replied: "I was aware that the provincial grandmaster visited the
Chief Constable at a police station, but what was discussed I have no
idea."
The hearing continues.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/freemason-tried-to-pressure-police-chief-1141307.html
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“European aristocrats transferred their lighted candles from Christian
altars to Masonic lodges. The flame of occult alchemists, which had
promised to turn dross into gold, reappeared at the center of new
"circles" seeking to recreate a golden age: Bavarian Illuminists
conspiring against the Jesuits, French Philadelphians against
Napoleon, Italian charcoal burners against the Hapsburgs.”
Larry The Mason from Holbrook
<great_sage_equal_of_heav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news
Is there a point to your illegally reproducing copyrighted work?
And, though I'm stupid to ask a troll, is there a point you're trying
to make by the content of your post?
Baldoni
> On Sep 8, 7:51ï¿œam, Darth Simian
You should see his racing tips !
--
Count Baldoni
In hoc signo vinces
Pope Pompous XVIII
> On Sep 8, 7:51ï¿œam, Darth Simian
> <great_sage_equal_of_heav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news
I think the point he's making is that the freemasons are devious
shitheads who think they own the planet itself and won't be happy until
they've driven it to complete destruction, as per the orders they
receive from their master Lucifer the Father of Lies. Feel free to
refute me by bogging the thread down in obscurantism and double-speak.
If that doesn't work you could always contact the Grand Lodge of
Ireland and get them to take the short stroll up Molesworth Street to
Government Buildings where they should be able to find some willing
soul who will take care of my usenet access.
Have your next drink on Me!!
(Just make sure it's not blood)
Jim Bennie
wrote in message
news:91523dbb-2803-4d71...@d15g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> Is there a point to your illegally reproducing copyrighted work?
To show he still hasn't got much of a grasp of logic?
For example, he quotes an 11-year-old newspaper story which states:
> The late Lord Kenyon, a provincial grandmaster of Freemasons, tried to
> pressure the Chief Constable of North Wales into abandoning a
> crackdown on officers being members of the Order.
Nowhere does the story outline any "pressure." A phone call, which morphs
into a "visit" in a later paragraph is not "pressure." There is no
information, either way, about the nature of the call.
Later in the story it is mentioned about an ordered that "frowned" on
Masonic membership. 'Frowning' on something is a far cry from "a crackdown."
Frankly, the story is poorly written. An opening statement is made with no
specifics in the story to back up the statement.
And if something were found amiss, you'd think the anti would have posted
it. He didn't. One may draw their own conclusions.
Jim, Vancouver
Jim Bennie
news:mn.44817d9995...@popes.news...
> I think the point he's making is that the freemasons are devious shitheads
> who think they own the planet itself and won't be happy until they've
> driven it to complete destruction, as per the orders they receive from
> their master Lucifer the Father of Lies.
Really? When did I get these orders? Was I on my to work? Was I watching TV?
Was I at the ball game? Did it happen yesterday? A week last Thursday?
What exactly did Lucy say? Is he on a first name basis with me? Does he talk
with a foreign accent? Did I joke "Lucy, you've got a lot of 'splain' to
do"?
If I "own the planet", how come I just can't put up a house anywhere I want?
And why do I pay property taxes? I mean, if I own it and everything.
You ought to have the answers. You made the claim, right?
> Feel free to refute me by bogging the thread down in obscurantism and
> double-speak.
Your own goofy logic does it for me.
Jim, Vancouver
pmd
> On Sep 8, 7:51ï¿œam, Darth Simian
Well well well, what do we have here then?
--
"You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons... and should
you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to
shield him. It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're
keeping your obligations."
Ronayne, "Handbook of Masonry" p. 183
Baldoni
> After serious thinking Larry The Mason from Holbrook wrote :
>> On Sep 8, 7:51ï¿œam, Darth Simian
>> <great_sage_equal_of_heav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news
>>
>> Is there a point to your illegally reproducing copyrighted work?
>>
>> And, though I'm stupid to ask a troll, is there a point you're trying
>> to make by the content of your post?
>
>
> Well well well, what do we have here then?
A bunch of Devil worshipping heathens and one can tell the calibre of
the buggers by the way they have been throwing "Latin" all over the
thread. That is something we were always instructed not to do in public
and anyone who has been to a good school will know what I am talking
about immediately.
Rob Sandilands
> pmd was thinking very hard :
>> After serious thinking Larry The Mason from Holbrook wrote :
>>> <great_sage_equal_of_heav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news
>>>
>>> Is there a point to your illegally reproducing copyrighted work?
>>>
>>> And, though I'm stupid to ask a troll, is there a point you're trying
>>> to make by the content of your post?
>>
>>
>> Well well well, what do we have here then?
>
> A bunch of Devil worshipping heathens and one can tell the calibre of
> the buggers by the way they have been throwing "Latin" all over the
> thread. That is something we were always instructed not to do in public
> and anyone who has been to a good school will know what I am talking
> about immediately.
>
Aaron
>After serious thinking Larry The Mason from Holbrook wrote :
>> On Sep 8, 7:51 am, Darth Simian
David Simpson
>After serious thinking Larry The Mason from Holbrook wrote :
>> On Sep 8, 7:51�am, Darth Simian
>> <great_sage_equal_of_heav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news
>>
>> Is there a point to your illegally reproducing copyrighted work?
>>
>> And, though I'm stupid to ask a troll, is there a point you're trying
>> to make by the content of your post?
>
>
>Well well well, what do we have here then?
>
>--
>"You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons... and should
>you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to
>shield him. It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're
>keeping your obligations."
>
>Ronayne, "Handbook of Masonry" p. 183
>
I do not know where you found that one but in my jurisdiction crimes
are specifically excepted from the shield provisions.
--
Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
You will step on the night soil of many countries.
pmd
> [Default] On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:17:44 +0100, pmd <P...@SIBU.HQ> typed:
>
>> After serious thinking Larry The Mason from Holbrook wrote :
>>> <great_sage_equal_of_heav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news
>>>
>>> Is there a point to your illegally reproducing copyrighted work?
>>>
>>> And, though I'm stupid to ask a troll, is there a point you're trying
>>> to make by the content of your post?
>>
>>
>> Well well well, what do we have here then?
>>
>> --
>> "You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons... and should
>> you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to
>> shield him. It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're
>> keeping your obligations."
>>
>> Ronayne, "Handbook of Masonry" p. 183
>>
> I do not know where you found that one but in my jurisdiction crimes
> are specifically excepted from the shield provisions.
What are you, naive, gullible... or both?
pmd
Yes indeed Balders, but I suspect these are merely the blue apron
brigade with no idea as to the organisation's true agenda. That's why
they use their degree system of wickedness, only the evil and
corruptable advance.
David Simpson
>David Simpson pretended :
>> [Default] On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:17:44 +0100, pmd <P...@SIBU.HQ> typed:
>>
>>> After serious thinking Larry The Mason from Holbrook wrote :
>>>> On Sep 8, 7:51�am, Darth Simian
>>>> <great_sage_equal_of_heav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news
>>>>
>>>> Is there a point to your illegally reproducing copyrighted work?
>>>>
>>>> And, though I'm stupid to ask a troll, is there a point you're trying
>>>> to make by the content of your post?
>>>
>>>
>>> Well well well, what do we have here then?
>>>
>>> --
>>> "You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons... and should
>>> you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to
>>> shield him. It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're
>>> keeping your obligations."
>>>
>>> Ronayne, "Handbook of Masonry" p. 183
>>>
>> I do not know where you found that one but in my jurisdiction crimes
>> are specifically excepted from the shield provisions.
>
>
>What are you, naive, gullible... or both?
It seems that you are the gullible one. Did you know that they have
removed that word from the dictionary?
Jim Bennie
news:f6lla59kkla7vj64n...@4ax.com...
> I do not know where you found that one
It's an anti-Masonic book, published in the U.S. in the 19th century.
Jim, Vancouver
Larry The Mason from Holbrook
>
> It's an anti-Masonic book, published in the U.S. in the 19th century.
Jim, even if it was a real Masonic book, like Pike's, Coil's or
Robinson's, it is not an authoritative work. It certainly is of no
authority in my jurisdiction.
And monkey boy made me Grand Master, so I should know, eh?
David Simpson
<jg.stopsp...@vcn.bc.ca> typed:
Thanks, Jim. I gathered it was anti-Masonic but I had never heard of
it before.
--
Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
Q:How much does it cost to ride the Unibus? A:2 bits.
pmd
> [Default] On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:29:20 +0100, pmd <P...@SIBU.HQ> typed:
>
>> David Simpson pretended :
>>> [Default] On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:17:44 +0100, pmd <P...@SIBU.HQ> typed:
>>>
>>>> After serious thinking Larry The Mason from Holbrook wrote :
>>>>> <great_sage_equal_of_heav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a point to your illegally reproducing copyrighted work?
>>>>>
>>>>> And, though I'm stupid to ask a troll, is there a point you're trying
>>>>> to make by the content of your post?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well well well, what do we have here then?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons... and should
>>>> you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to
>>>> shield him. It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're
>>>> keeping your obligations."
>>>>
>>>> Ronayne, "Handbook of Masonry" p. 183
>>>>
>>> I do not know where you found that one but in my jurisdiction crimes
>>> are specifically excepted from the shield provisions.
>>
>>
>> What are you, naive, gullible... or both?
>
> It seems that you are the gullible one. Did you know that they have
> removed that word from the dictionary?
You'll believe anything they tell you, you're all so easily deceived.
Jim Bennie
> And monkey boy made me Grand Master, so I should know, eh?
Isn't he the guy who said none of us were Masons? Or was that someone else?
They all spew the same rancid goo from their keyboards it's hard to keep
track.
Jim, Vancouver
Darth Simian
pressure the Chief Constable of North Wales into abandoning a
crackdown on officers being members of the Order.
Lord Kenyon telephoned the Chief Constable at a time when an unnamed
policeman was due to take a senior position in a masonic lodge, the
North Wales child abuse tribunal heard yesterday.
A former police officer and Mason, who has been accused of abuse by a
number of witnesses and who has spent two days giving evidence to the
tribunal, denied that he was the officer referred to. The ex-
policeman also denied that he had forgotten 15 visits to a children's
home.
Timothy King QC, counsel for a number of alleged victims of abuse,
asked the ex-policeman if he had been aware of the standing order
which "frowned" on serving officers being Freemasons. He also asked
him if he knew about "negotiations behind the scenes between the
grandmaster and the Chief Constable?"
He replied: "I was aware that the provincial grandmaster visited the
Chief Constable at a police station, but what was discussed I have no
idea."
The hearing continues.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/freemason-tried-to-pressure-police-...