FAQ: Do Freemasons rob graves and desecrate human remains in sick rituals?
Darth Simian
defend this despicable practice? Surely there is a more dignified way
to teach “the inevitability of death and the fragility of life."? The
truth is only evil Luciferian cults get up to this sort of carry on.
The West Australian (Perth) July 23, 1999
by Anne Buggins
MASONIC BONE RITUAL SHOCKS ABORIGINES:
Freemasons give police human skulls for forensic testing
Aboriginal activist Clarrie Isaacs, who is a former member of the WA
Freemasons, says he is surprised and disappointed to discover
Aboriginal
bones had been used in masonic secret rituals.
A skull and crossbones belonging to the Newman Masonic Lodge was
identified
as Aboriginal, prompting Freemasons to surrender up to 60 such skulls
to
police for forensic testing.
"I wouldn't like to see the use of human bones in any ritual," he
said. "I
don't think it is a Christian sort of thing to have bones hanging
around."
Mr. Isaacs, who is a Muslim, said he was a member of the Concorde
Lodge in
Stirling Highway for about three years, but left in 1988. "I somehow
felt
it didn't really fit my style," he said. "It was a lot of big
businessmen
and tons of police."
"Some of them were doing good things -- not all of them were police.
I was just working for the Water Authority, I couldn't keep up with
all
their donations. I don't think they objected to me, maybe it was a
novelty
to say they had the only Aboriginal in the lodge."
Despite ent3ring the third masonic degree and attaining the title of
Master
Mason, Mr. Isaacs had never seen a set of bones used for any
ceremonial
ritual. He said he may not have been eligible to see them. "As you
join
among men and want to be their equal, you would hope they don't have
such
dastardly things going on," he said.
Mr. Isaacs said he became fed up with the amount of time masons spent
memorising things and reading them out. "I thought, 'How am I ever
going to
apply this stuff'. It was a bit like nonsense," he said.
Yesterday, Coroner's Court manager Glenn Spivey said police had handed
in a
few skulls for testing in recent weeks. Forensic tests normally took
up to
10 days, but there could be a delay if lots came at once.
Other Aboriginal spokesmen have reacted strongly to the news. The
Perth
Noongar Regional Council chairman, the Rev. Cedric Jacobs, said he was
devastated to think the bones of any human had been used in such a
manner
and believed the Masons should be prosecuted. He said the matter would
be
raised at a council meeting next month.
But Manguri Aboriginal Corporation director Dean Collard said he saw
practical difficulties with any move to prosecute. "I don't think it
can
be done," he said. "Just in a practical sense who do you prosecute?"
He
applauded the Masons' decision to hand other skulls in for forensic
examination. He said it showed respect for Aboriginal beliefs.
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FREEMASONS HAND OVER 60 SKULLS FOR POLICE TESTS
The West Australian (Perthy) July 22, 1999 page 1
by Anne Buggins
WA Freemasons could be forced to reveal details of their secret
ceremonies
after a skull and crossbones belonging to the Newman Lodge were
identified
as Aboriginal. The discovery has prompted Freemasons to surrender up
to 60
such skulls for forensic testing and to begin using photographic
transparencies instead of human remains in rituals.
Aboriginal elder Ken Colbung, who likened Freemason rituals to those
of a
witches' coven, wants the masons to be prosecuted. "It makes your
blood
run cold really," he said yesterday. "I am not against them using
skeletal
remains as long as they have got permission, but when they become
grave
robbers we would tend to think they shouldn't be doing that."
But South Hedland DetSgt. Ron Clarke said prosecution was not an
issue. The
masons had not contravened a section of the Criminal Code which dealt
with
"misconduct with regard to a corpse."
Irene Stainton, assistant director of Aboriginal heritage and culture
at
the Aboriginal Affairs Department, said it was "hugely significant" to
all
Aboriginal people that human remains be returned to a person's country
or
place of origin. But pathologists could confirm only the remains were
those of an Aboriginal man, aged 30 to 35.
(continued on page 2)
BONES POINT TO MASONIC RITES page 2
The West Australian (Perth) July 22, 1999
The masonic ritual came to light in February when three boys, aged six
and
seven, took a box containing the bones from an unlocked storeroom of
the
Newman Masonic Lodge. After ruling out any suspicious circumstances,
South
Hedland detectives sent the bones to Perth for forensic testing. They
were
found to be Aboriginal, placed in the custody of the Aboriginal
affairs
Department, and are now stored temporarily at the WA Museum.
Peter Bloor, grand secretary of the Grand Lodge of WA Freemasons,
yesterday
insisted the bones, covered with a cement-like substance and some
yellow
paint and kept in a box equipped with an electric light, were nothing
more
than a simple teaching aid.
"We use them as teaching aids in much the same way as a university
uses a
human skull," he said. "The show the inevitability of death and the
fragility of life." He said about 60 of the 180 masonic lodges across
the
state had a similar set of remains. Some were made of ceramic or
plaster,
but most were human and came from the Indian sub-continent, as did
those
used in universities. He said records did not show where the bones
were
from, but it was possible they had been transferred from a lodge in
Cue to
one in Newman earlier this century. The remains were viewed by
candidates
for the third and highest masonic "level of understanding" known as
the
third degree.
Mr. Bloor acknowledged that the switch to using transparencies in
rituals
could be seen as forcing the masons into the 20th century. He said the
bones were not touched or interfered with in any way. In a lodge such
as
Newman, this type of ceremoney would occur about once a year. He said
the
masons had not known the remains were Aboriginal. The decision to
surrender all skulls was made to ensure any other Aboriginal remains
could
be dealt with properly.
Ms. Stainton said the Freemason's decision to surrender other remains
was a
responsible attitude which showed they respected Aboriginal culture.
She
said if the remains predated the 1972 Aboriginal Heritage Act a
prosecution
would not be possible.
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"To you, Sovereign Instructors of Grade 33, we tell you: you have to
repeat to the brothers of inferior grades that we worship only one God
to whom we pray without superstition. It is we, Initiated in the
Supreme Grade, that are to keep the real Masonic religion preserving
pure the Lucifer doctrine"
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Mudge
> Yes they do. How will Grand Masters Larry, Aaron, Rob and Drivel
> defend this despicable practice? Surely there is a more dignified way
> to teach “the inevitability of death and the fragility of life."? The
> truth is only evil Luciferian cults get up to this sort of carry on.
8kb of snipperetery and loss of much useless cross postery
Hmmmm - the only "bones" we have in our lodge ceremonies are processed
remains of paleolithic materials, (from an era much closer to mine)
otherwise, real genuine plastic.
--
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Save our precious CO2 - plant many trees
Darth Simian
Secrets and lies: Its the Masonic way.
--
"The highest degree of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, the
Meritorious Degree, the Degree of the Illuminati, whose motto is "Ordo
Ab Chao" or "Out of Chaos Comes Order"--which literally means if they
break down the existing structure and cause the population to cry out
for order, they will emerge as the rulers and will have the world that
they seek."
Aaron
>On 2009-09-21 14:36:32 -0600, Darth Simian said:
>
>> Yes they do. How will Grand Masters Larry, Aaron, Rob and Drivel
>> defend this despicable practice? Surely there is a more dignified way
>> to teach “the inevitability of death and the fragility of life."? The
>> truth is only evil Luciferian cults get up to this sort of carry on.
>
>8kb of snipperetery and loss of much useless cross postery
>
>Hmmmm - the only "bones" we have in our lodge ceremonies are processed
>remains of paleolithic materials, (from an era much closer to mine)
>otherwise, real genuine plastic.
Jesus used a real lamb bone during the Passover seder that he
conducted at the last supper (yes, one day early). God commanded the
slaughter of animals for each sin. It seems that Darth Simian does
not like the way God does things, and thinks that God is "Luciferian"
(despite the fact that there is no such thing as Lucifer).
I have seen a several uneducated people use the word "Luciferian," as
if this meant something. It does not mean anything other than to
demonstrate the ignorance of the people using the word. There is no
such things as "lucifer," and there never was. The King James Bible
contains an error translating "haylel," the Hebrew of the morning star
(the planet venus) as "Lucifer." The prophecy is addressed to the
King of Babylon and names him by titles he used: "Son of the Dawn" and
"Morning Star." These titles were used because Babylon was the most
eastern nation known, and the kings of Babylon portrayed themselves as
supernatural.
Even in Catholic mythology Lucifer became Satan. In the Bible, an
angel, a leader among the Watchers, did fall prior to the flood
becoming "Satan." His name prior to his fall was only mentioned in a
book that the Jewish Council of Yavneh left out of the Tanakh for fear
that study of the fall of Satan would provide material for occultists
to use. Christians originally included the book in the Christian
Bible, but later removed because of their fear that it would generate
misogyny. Since Darth Simian and the other antis are so spiritually
weak, I will not give the title of the book or the name. They are too
close to being drawn into the occult as it is. They obviously spend a
lot of time reading about the occult and then imagining that Masons
are neglecting to invite them to the "party."
Alex
Hi Aaron.
I'd like to contact you back channel if that is OK by you. You can reply
direct to me via email....
--
Alex Fisher
Lodge Caledonian No. 14
United Grand Lodge of Queensland
Darth Simian
> Jesus used a real lamb bone during the Passover
your horned and cloven footed master will be embarrassed when he reads
that.
--
“The original Templars' rite of the Fifth degree symbolically guided
the candidate through the Devil's Pass in the mountains separating the
East from the West (the Yezidi domain). At the fork of the trail the
candidate would make an important decision: either to retain his
present identity, or strike out on the Left-Hand Path to Shambhala,
where he might dwell in Satan's household, having rejected the foibles
and hypocrisies of the everyday world.
A striking parallel to this rite is enacted within the mosques of the
Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, an order
reserved for thirty-second degree Masons. The Nobles have gracefully
removed themselves from any implication of heresy by referring to the
place beyond the Devil's Pass as the domain where they might "worship
at the shrine of Islam."
Once the celebrant has taken this degree, he embarks upon the Left
Hand Path and chooses Hell in place of Heaven.”
Aaron
>That is pathetic Grand Master Aaron, even by your low standards. Even
>your horned and cloven footed master will be embarrassed when he reads
>that.
Darth Simian, you seem to object to the fact that you have been caught
calling Jesus a "Lucirferian," but I am not sure if you object to your
occult practices being connected with Jesus, whose teachings you
obviously hate, or if you are offended by the idea that there may not
be any occult at all.
Darth Simian
occult practices. It is Freemasons who have had human remains
confiscated from their temples, not I.
--
When a freemason is being initiated into the third degree he is struck
on the forhead in the dark, falling back either into a coffin or onto
a coffin shape design. His fellow masons lift him up and when he opens
his eyes he is confronted with a human skull and crossed bones. Under
this death threat how can any freemason of third degree or higher be
trusted, particularly in public office? He is hoodwinked literally and
metaphorically, placing himself in a cult and under a curse.
Jim Bennie
news:kl5ib51rb36peccsd...@4ax.com...
> you seem to object to the fact that you have been caught
> calling Jesus a "Lucirferian,"
Don't these guys realise how silly when they make idiotic claims.
Has he posted evidence of this "grave-robbing", such as dates, times,
places, case numbers for convictions and that sort of thing? You know, real
proof. Or is he just trolling?
Maybe he should worry about about that other anonymous guy who says "We
should discover and expose all secrecies" revealing who he is.
Jim
Jim Bennie
news:2009092114564816807-Nospam@neverever...
> Hmmmm - the only "bones" we have in our lodge ceremonies are processed
> remains of paleolithic materials, (from an era much closer to mine)
> otherwise, real genuine plastic.
I've seen a number of the poultry variety on a plate after a Lodge meeting.
Jim, Vancouver
Aaron
You make a claim with no proof.
You seem fascinated by the possibility that the occult exists. You
seem to see occultism everywhere even when there is nothing to see.
Many of the antis, like you, see occultism when there is nothing but
references to parts of the Bible that they have not bothered to read.
Jesus instructed His followers to "Remove the log from your eye before
you attempt to remove the speck from your neighbor's eye." Since all
your accusation are based on the fact that you do not know the Bible,
it seems that you should worry about getting an education before you
worry about exposing secrets that you only imagine exist.
Jim Bennie
> You make a claim with no proof.
Aaron, I hereby declare your correspondent is none other than famed film
director Ed Wood.
Look at the facts.
Ed Wood's script in Plan 9 From Outer Space talks about "grave-robbers from
outer space" and the opening scene takes place in a grave. Your
correspondent has the same hang up above graves and disturbing the dead.
In an earlier Wood movie, the hero comes face-to-face with himself in the
mirror.. and he's a monkey. Your correspondent leaves a clue by calling
himself "Simian." It's too much to think that's a mere coincidence. Why else
would he have chosen that unusual name? If it was usual, other people would
be using it, right?
Oh, I know you're saying Ed Wood is dead. But it's apparent he faked his own
death because he knew too much about the U.S. government's conspiracy to
keep quiet about the existence of U.F.Os. And the Masons and media must be
in on it, too, because a whole bunch of web sites and books say they're part
of it.
Isn't it remarkable what you can dream up when you use the exact same
"logic" as you read in kook-posts?
Jim, Vancouver
Darth Simian
--
“European aristocrats transferred their lighted candles from Christian
altars to Masonic lodges. The flame of occult alchemists, which had
promised to turn dross into gold, reappeared at the center of new
"circles" seeking to recreate a golden age: Bavarian Illuminists
conspiring against the Jesuits, French Philadelphians against
Napoleon, Italian charcoal burners against the Hapsburgs.”
Aaron
Yes, you provided no proof at all.
You cut and pasted an e-mail message that seems to have been posted to
a couple of bulliten board webpages. Claiming that the article was
printed is not proof of anything. Even if the article was actually
printed, it would have to comtain proof, and the article that you
posted contained no proof. There is no police record cited, only an
excuse why one would not exist. The newspaper in question does not
seem to have such an article archived. Have YOU found it on an
official archive? Have you found an actual police record?
No. If you had any proof, you would have posted it.
Mudge
But then, Jesus was not a Christian, or a Mason, was he ???
Mudge
> I've seen a number of the poultry variety on a plate after a Lodge meeting.
That can be quite fowl !!!!
Aaron
He was not a Mason.
He was/is a Jew. However all Christian denominations claim that they
follow Him despite the fact that they often accuse each other of
doctrinal errors so extreme as to prevent the salvation of members of
other denominations. Which is why I recomend reading the Bible,
preferably in Hebrew and Greek, and making up your own mind rather
than following men.
Mudge
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:46:48 GMT, Mudge wrote:
>> But then, Jesus was not a Christian, or a Mason, was he ???
>
> He was not a Mason.
>
> He was/is a Jew. However all Christian denominations claim that they
> follow Him despite the fact that they often accuse each other of
> doctrinal errors so extreme as to prevent the salvation of members of
> other denominations. Which is why I recomend reading the Bible,
> preferably in Hebrew and Greek, and making up your own mind rather
> than following men.
How about women - don't they count - and they are not Masons either !
Rob Sandilands
>
> But then, Jesus was not a Christian, or a Mason, was he ???
>
>
... a Mason, no, although Masons from a Christian background as well as
many others believe that his life was worthy of emulation and his
teachings were truly a way to the brotherhood of man under the
fatherhood of God ...
... a Christian? ... ah, now there's a point we could debate ... it
could be said that he was the 'first' Christian ...
Rob Sandilands
> On 2009-09-22 10:36:01 -0600, "Jim Bennie" said:
>
>> I've seen a number of the poultry variety on a plate after a Lodge
>> meeting.
>
> That can be quite fowl !!!!
>
Rob Sandilands
responses ... not to mention that if you do a Google search, it turns
out that he is a prolific poster in a number of unrelated newsgroups ...
he obviously enjoys stirring up trouble ... and getting responses ...
but virtually all of his posts are simply cut and pastes of negative
articles or comments, and show no sign of original thought or
discrimination in that thought ...
... like our friend pmd who seems to believe that Ronayne is genuine,
despite the fact that the 'masonic oath' with which he signs his posts
is a complete fabrication, his 'facts' are those that suit his mindset
and preconceived beliefs, as well as being those which will provoke his
'readers' ... his continued railing against anyone or anything that
dares to disagree with him is even less rational than some of the claims
of our friend Keith who sees Masonic connections is everything,
including apparently flights of geese, although that episode was a
little before my time here, or our old and now apparently retired friend
kansan1225 who anti-Masonic fervour somehow morphed into an obsession
with a supermodel ... and then there's our friend Sam, who is absent at
present, but who seems to believe that punching random phrases into a
'myth calculator' and adjusting the words, spelling and grammar until it
achieves an agreeable numerical result is a form of prophecy ...
... the ape does not want to discuss ... only to provoke and prove his
own superiority to his own satisfaction ...
... I gather that some of the correspondents in the various football
groups to which he crossposts have simply decided to ignore his
provocations and prevarications, hence his branching out into other
groups to continue gaining the level of response ...
... sadly, many of the antis don't want to find the truth about real
Freemasonry ... the myths and conspiracies are much more fun ...
Parakletus
>>
>> Jesus used a real lamb bone during the Passover
>That is pathetic Grand Master Aaron, even by your low standards. Even
>your horned and cloven footed master will be embarrassed when he reads
>that.
Well, of course we desecrate human remains. Everyone knows that Masons
and Shriners like to end their meetings with a cold one.
Aaron
>On 2009-09-22 19:00:13 -0600, Aaron said:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:46:48 GMT, Mudge wrote:
>
>>> But then, Jesus was not a Christian, or a Mason, was he ???
>>
>> He was not a Mason.
>>
>> He was/is a Jew. However all Christian denominations claim that they
>> follow Him despite the fact that they often accuse each other of
>> doctrinal errors so extreme as to prevent the salvation of members of
>> other denominations. Which is why I recomend reading the Bible,
>> preferably in Hebrew and Greek, and making up your own mind rather
>> than following men.
>
>How about women - don't they count - and they are not Masons either !
What are you trying to say?
Aaron
It is more accurate to say He is a Jew.
Hexen666
Hex
Darth Simian
Darth Simian
ptk1071
> - Albert Pike - (All around good guy)
Please stop repeating yourself it is very boring for the reader.
Please come up with something new for me to share with friends. We do
do have so much fun and laughter with your posts....
Bill A.
NY Mason
Larry The Mason From Holbrook
<great_sage_eq...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yes they do.
Since you and the rest of the world seem to know that bones are used in
Masonic rituals, you will kindly point out those rituals and their
source.
I will point out that Duncan's Ritual and Monitor is in print and
available at your local bookstore, and that the ritual therein is
practiced today in at least one Masonic jurisdiction. You should have
no problem pointing out the exact page and line where bones are used.
I will also point out that a version of Nevada ritual is available on
the web. You again should have no problem pointing out the exact part
of the ritual where bones are used.
I will further point out that at least one other version of the Masonic
ritual is available online, giving you yet another opportunity to point
out chapter and verse where bones are used.
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