Satanic Mason John H Shaw "comes clean" and tells more lies

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Honesty, Integrity, Frankness and Candor (Coming Clean)

This is my attempt at telling the truth about myself. I feel that many
here have put up with it long enough and have earned an
explanation. Today, of all days, I became sick of lying and defending
myself from the onslaught for no damn reason, whatsoever. I was
ashamed of the things I have done in the past and I wanted to,
somehow, force my fantasies upon those that went against me, or
something. I really have no excuse. I am just sick of it. There are
too many things in my life happening for the good right now to be
using my time keeping track of stories. It just wasn?t fun anymore,
really. I wanted to engage in convos about Satanic and/or
interesting subjects when I first got here and that is what I would like
to do now, as well. Here goes:

My name is John Shaw. I have never been one to turn and face my
problems. I have always pushed them away or hid them deeper
inside to use when I was pounding

someone?s head in or lifting weights. Not anymore. Nobody likes
their dirty laundry exposed for all to see, but in the time I have posted
here, I learned very much. I don?t care anymore about it. Most here
are very smart people who I have learned much from, whether they
know it or not. You will find NO LIES here.

I have been a Satanist since I can remember. I picked up a copy of
the Satanic Bible and like most, found the words to be all I ever
thought of. It was amazing to me that one man could have put the
words together to what I have been feeling all along. I learned that
Satanism demands study, not worship, so I learn more and more,
everyday. You know the story?anyway, when I learned of the internet,
I searched for Satanic items and found a very few. I ordered things
from Hell?s Kitchen, only to receive them 8 months later and
damaged. I ordered things from satannet.net, only to receive them 6
months later. No lie. So, I decided to start SatanicSupplies.com
because I was told that I make an excellent wall plaque of Baphomet
and make excellent candles. I made my own and friends I met
locally and through the internet. They paid shipping and it was my
gift to some, etc. Anyway, the suggestion came to me and I started it
up from what I learned in school about coding websites.

I am a High School graduate and I attended a local college for
Computer Networking and graduated. There, I learned the aspects
of networking computers and software, such as Win95/98 and Office
products. I, then attended a University to attain my Bachelor?s in
Software Engineering. I did not complete the course, due to having
children and various other reasons, not important to the point. I
received no degree from that university, but I learned much about
HTML and Javascript and graphic design, which I utilized on many
websites I have done.

I, originally, contacted Peter Gilmore with an opportunity for the CoS.
We spoke on the phone a couple of times and traded much email
pertaining to SatanicSupplies.com. Most of what he kept talking
about was a 10% of sales for all Baphomet related items. Inside, I
wanted to help the organization that the man I admired had founded,
but I found Gilmore to be ugly about it. After all, the Baphomet was of
my own design, which he said to have admired. So, I sent some
items to Blanche Barton, per his request. Some time went by and in
my lack of patience, I inquired as to what she thought about them,
etc. I mean weeks and weeks went by. I was excited about starting
SatanicSupplies.com, but didn?t want to step on toes. Two days
later, I received the items back, one of them broken in half and
including a nasty letter from her saying that I said some wrongful
things to her via email. I have never emailed her, spoke to her or
even about her, ever before that. I didn?t understand. So, in my
anger and rage, I opened it up and starting selling many items. I
couldn?t believe the orders that came in. 100?s of orders a day?no
lie. I was working hard at filling orders by myself. I, regret to admit,

that it got out of hand for me. I was busy with other companies I had
started with friends. I started a sign shop and a knife shop. The
sign shop went downhill, due to our lack of attention to it. We never
went out and drummed up business for it. The knife shop continues
to flourish today, really. Slow, but growing.

Anyway, when I encountered alt.Satanism, I was thrown into the
whirlpool of onslaughts of insults, etc. The only thing I could think of
to do was retaliate with crazy stories in a vain attempt at looking
important or something. That went over like a fart in church. I don?t
really remember anymore. I made up story after story and it got way
out of hand. I should have just said hello first. I don?t know what
else to say, really. I just want it to stop. Here is a list of things I want

to address:

1.. I have no degree or certs other than my degree from the first
college in Computer Networking, as far as school goes.
2.. I never made it to my Bachelor?s degree, but it was the program
I signed up for.
3.. Al-Jilwah magazine is not published, yet, but I have 100?s of
articles and pictures that were submitted for publication. I just don?t
have the funds to devote to the publishing of it, yet. I truly want to
publish it and have the magazine. Coming soon, right?
4.. New Church of Satan has approximately 42 members, no lie. I
did it in a vain attempt to change what the current CoS was about. I
never thought ANYONE would join, but those who helped found it. I
really don?t have the time or energy to continue it. I am not the only
person who started it. The main reason that it wasn?t opened up for
the general public was because I was fighting it inside myself. I
knew it was wrong to do, but did it anyway. No excuse. I was
receiving flack for doing it and flack for not doing it. I?ve decided,
after two frickin years, to not do it.
5.. I DO have my 2nd degree Black Belt in Jeet Kune Do. That was
not a lie. I spent most of my life working on my physical appearance
and my self-defense skills. I attended Chinese Shaolin Kung Fu
when I was 12 years old for about 2 years. I attended Tae Kwon Do
when I was 14 for about a year and a half. I studied Judo for about 6
months one year at the local Boys Club. I went to High School and
met some pretty nice friends there who introduced me to Jeet Kune
Do. I studied with my instructor privately, as well as group classes
for close to 11 years and received my 2nd Degree Black. After that, I
studied alone and practiced and taught some children and friends
through the years. I had two friends from the Navy Seals teach me
some dirty tricks time and again,
which were wonderful to know.
6.. I never was going to fight in the UFC, although I would like to.
The reason I made that up was because my friend here signed me
up for Rage in the Cage. I didn?t fight there, though. I always felt I
needed a reason to hurt someone physically. You know, they had to
do something to me or my loved ones first, so I may retaliate. I am
muscular and some say, very intimidating in person, but I am not a
raging lunatic about it. I work out for the therapy of it, mentally. The

release. The fatigue. The results, physically, of course, but for
me?and my lady.
7.. I never appeared in Pitch Black 2. There was a rumor about me
doing it, so I went with it. I am a client of one of the local agencies in

Scottsdale. They blew smoke up my ass about sending my stuff to
the film company on that movie. Those places don?t really do much,
though. They make you pay $90 and take pics of you and that?s it.
There was a picture of me from that agency on here once.
8.. I never posted here anonymously. I always used my computer
and used my internet service, so my IP always showed it was me. I
am aware of two instances, that I can remember, where someone
spoofed an IP or
something. I don?t know how they did that.
9.. I never joined the CoS. I was never a member. I wanted to be a
member at some time, but never actually sent them 100 skins. I
heard too many rumors and stories about the goings-on and didn?t
want to lose $100 to an org that may not be in my best interest.
10.. We were robbed, but they were not CoS members. I was
continuing my anger with the CoS, but my hissy fit is over. Done.
Many things were stolen and broken, etc. That is the reason why we
closed up for awhile. I have been trying to recover from that for some
time. There was no insurance. No record with the police station
because I was sharing the storage with someone that owned some
illegal items, which I believe, personally, that they were after these
items and found some Satanic-related things to destroy, in their
wonderful christian duty. Anyway, we kept our stuff at a local
run-o-the-mill storage facility. We felt the padlock was good
enough?not enough, I guess.
11.. I do not own my own home. One can only hope that I will in
time. It?s hard with two children and income only sourcing from me
and my endeavors, however failing or thriving they may be. It never
seems to
be enough, though.
12.. I have been in various rock bands throughout my life. That was
true. I played out in many places up and down the East
Coast?mostly New York and Connecticut. I started rapping when I
was 17. I literally, have notebooks full of lyrics. Friends of mine say
that I should make it and want to know why am I not doing anything
with it. I really just want to sell my lyrics and not have to do any
touring, etc. I never wanted to get caught up in that life.
13.. I sold drugs. I was arrested for selling drugs, yes. I never
spent one minute in a jail cell or prison cell, though. It was my first
offense and I had a wonderful lawyer. Drugs were not found on my
person and I had a concealed weapons permit for my gun. I made
many mistakes in life, yes, like most who live on this planet. I was
never proud of doing it, but I knew many people and saw them
buying all kinds of drugs, so I said to myself that they should be
buying it from me, then. I made a lot of money doing it, but the party
was over 9 years ago. Since then, I left my old neighborhood and
supposed friends behind and moved here to start a new life. I,
currently, do not use drugs and haven?t for 9 years. I went to the
colleges mentioned above and begat two beautiful daughters. My
lady is my best friend. Yes, her name is Marlene. I made a website
for a clinic that her father was a practicing physician at. Look, I?m
not proud of some things that I did in my life. We live and we learn. I
am proud of many things in my life, as well. All this is for is to set the

record straight. Now, we can go from there, instead of being caught
in a stagnant conversation about the same story over and over, if
anyone would like to. I deserve most of what I get from some people
here, I guess.

I apologize to certain people here that I may have wrongfully
attacked. Most were right about me in some ways.

This is not an attempt to sweep it under the rug?if anyone wants to
address anything I?ve said, that?s fine, by all means, please do.
I?m not running off somewhere?I?ll be right here, where I always
was. I just wanted to be in touch with other Satanists and engage in
some intelligent conversations. That blew up in my face like a
cardhouse in the wind! I?m not playing a victim, either. All that has
happened to me was because I allowed it to happen to me. The
fault is mine. My friends here were putting me up to a lot of the
things I said here. They thought it to be a big joke and it was all
supposed to be here, but got out of hand and the only one suffering
was me, not them. No more of that crap. Yes, Jason Shank is a real
person who used to reside next door to me, but no longer lives here
and I no longer have contact with him, since he moved. His real
name is Jason Shannon. I attended the University mentioned above
with him and told him about the low-priced apartment complex in
Scottsdale. That may have been a mistake, as he did not pay his
last month?s rent before he left. I nick-named him Shank in school
because of his pencil. It was made of steel.

Anyway, I only hope that people here can forgive me for being such
an ass the past two years here. If not, I fully understand. I am
simply happy that I do not have to lie or exaggerate any longer. The
weight is
lifted!

John Shaw
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The .comical at the end of the email address posting that shows that it
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flame and make people THINK things about their "supposed" enemies...

It's quite sad, really.

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> The .comical at the end of the email address posting that shows
> that it wasn't me posting it. Many people fake posts, emails,
> spoof IP's, etc. to flame and make people THINK things about their
> "supposed" enemies...
>
> It's quite sad, really.
>

Why argue the toss? If you don't want to be able to deny your own
posts, just sign them.

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> > The .comical at the end of the email address posting that shows
> > that it wasn't me posting it. Many people fake posts, emails,
> > spoof IP's, etc. to flame and make people THINK things about their
> > "supposed" enemies...
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> > It's quite sad, really.
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> Why argue the toss? If you don't want to be able to deny your own
> posts, just sign them.

I would if I knew how. I'm not denying posts made by me, I'm denying posts
that have been changed and/or forged by others...there are 1000's of them.
These people have been doing these things for years.

JB

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> I would if I knew how. I'm not denying posts made by me, I'm
> denying posts that have been changed and/or forged by
> others...there are 1000's of them. These people have been doing
> these things for years.
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Fair enough. Everyone has to start somewhere.

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"Peachy Carnehan" <rafo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> The .comical at the end of the email address posting that shows that it
> wasn't me posting it. Many people fake posts, emails, spoof IP's, etc. to
> flame and make people THINK things about their "supposed" enemies...
>
> It's quite sad, really.

This is quite sad. the IP on the big apology message is NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20

The IP on this message you just made right now is NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20

Of course, eventually you will apologize and say you didn't make THIS post either. You'll try to convince Tani that you weren't trashing her like some gutter mouthed vulgar pimp. You will try to convince Ben that you never questioned his Mason status. We all can't wait. LOLOLOL.

What is sad is that after making the big apology, you turn around and do it all over again and then think that all Satanists are complete idiots. We can see that the Masons are complete idiots for believing you LOLOL.

Does someone want to explain to John, who took up a computer course in college to learn how to do html (LOLOLOL) - why this post he made is NOT FAKE?

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> > > The .comical at the end of the email address posting that shows
> > > that it wasn't me posting it. Many people fake posts, emails,
> > > spoof IP's, etc. to flame and make people THINK things about their
> > > "supposed" enemies...
> > >
> > > It's quite sad, really.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Why argue the toss? If you don't want to be able to deny your own
> > posts, just sign them.
>
> I would if I knew how. I'm not denying posts made by me, I'm denying posts
> that have been changed and/or forged by others...there are 1000's of them.
> These people have been doing these things for years.

No, you have been LYING for years.

This is the IP on the apology
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20

This is the IP on the post that you just made right now
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20

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"Peachy Carnehan" <rafo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> The .comical at the end of the email address posting that shows that it
> wasn't me posting it. Many people fake posts, emails, spoof IP's, etc. to
> flame and make people THINK things about their "supposed" enemies...
>
> It's quite sad, really.

What is "quite sad really" is that you think Satanists are stupid idiots. Anyone can put "comical" in place of "com." on a post.

THIS is what proves you posted it.

NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20
That appears on the big apology.

Got it? Furthermore, heh, you apparently had email communication with people about this "big apology" you made. You made it.

No one faked over 2 thousand messages you posted on here. NO one faked your apology.

This message you made right here shows this NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20

This can NOT be faked. Do you think people are that stupid? Satanists aren't stupid. But we sure can see a bunch of Masons that are stupid if they believe a word you say.

Apparently you don't know how to read a header.

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George

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> > > spoof IP's, etc. to flame and make people THINK things about their
> > > "supposed" enemies...
> > >
> > > It's quite sad, really.
> > >
> >
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> > Why argue the toss? If you don't want to be able to deny your own
> > posts, just sign them.
>
> I would if I knew how. I'm not denying posts made by me, I'm denying posts
> that have been changed and/or forged by others...there are 1000's of them.
> These people have been doing these things for years.

No, you have been LYING for years.

This is the IP on the apology
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20

This is the IP on the post that you just made right now
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20

>

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In article <lXvUc.26098$9Y6....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
"Peachy Carnehan" <rafo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>

> "JB" <masoni...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:109278243...@despina.uk.clara.net...
> >
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > "Peachy Carnehan" <rafo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:_HvUc.5143$3O3...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > The .comical at the end of the email address posting that shows
> > > that it wasn't me posting it. Many people fake posts, emails,
> > > spoof IP's, etc. to flame and make people THINK things about their
> > > "supposed" enemies...
> > >
> > > It's quite sad, really.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Why argue the toss? If you don't want to be able to deny your own
> > posts, just sign them.
>
> I would if I knew how. I'm not denying posts made by me, I'm denying posts
> that have been changed and/or forged by others...there are 1000's of them.
> These people have been doing these things for years.

No, you have been LYING for years.

This is the IP on the apology
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20

This is the IP on the post that you just made right now
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20

>

Peachy Carnehan

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Aug 17, 2004, 10:14:25 PM8/17/04

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Tani, people spoof IP's all day long.

Why don't you stick to the subject and answer a question...?:

Why is the name of the book that my design magically appeared in 200 years
before I designed it?

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"YOU are a white man and a Christian. You have NO understanding." - Tani
Jantsang

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Peachy Carnehan

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Aug 17, 2004, 10:16:31 PM8/17/04

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LOL! Now I KNOW it's you TANI. You said the exact same thing to me about
another person in an email you once sent to me...LMAO! Gotcha!

You are pathetic. You even told me about the time you posed as a concerned
parent and called the Christian Coalition on someone in the CoS. Get a
life...

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Peachy Carnehan

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Aug 17, 2004, 11:41:33 PM8/17/04

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Thank you JB.

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Peachy Carnehan

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Aug 17, 2004, 11:42:20 PM8/17/04

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Ever heard of IP spoofing Tani? I refuse to believe that in all your years,
you haven't heard of this...

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"YOU are a white man and a Christian. You have NO understanding." - Tani
Jantsang

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Peachy Carnehan

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Aug 17, 2004, 11:42:27 PM8/17/04

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Ever heard of IP spoofing Tani? I refuse to believe that in all your years,
you haven't heard of this...

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"YOU are a white man and a Christian. You have NO understanding." - Tani
Jantsang

"Tarapia Tapioco" <comes...@ntani.firenze.linux.it> wrote in message
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Peachy Carnehan

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Ever heard of IP spoofing Tani? I refuse to believe that in all your years,
you haven't heard of this...

--

"YOU are a white man and a Christian. You have NO understanding." - Tani
Jantsang

"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" <mixm...@remailer.privacy.at> wrote in
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Tarapia Tapioco

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Aug 17, 2004, 11:53:57 PM8/17/04

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I challenge anyone to fake the entire header of this post right here. I challenge anyone to fake the entire header of any posts John Shaw has just made.

In article <8IvUc.5145$3O3....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
"Peachy Carnehan" <rafo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>

> The .comical at the end of the email address posting that shows that it
> wasn't me posting it. Many people fake posts, emails, spoof IP's, etc. to
> flame and make people THINK things about their "supposed" enemies...
>
> It's quite sad, really.

What is "quite sad really" is that you think Satanists are stupid idiots. Anyone can put "comical" in place of "com." on a post.

THIS is what proves you posted it.

NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20
That appears on the big apology.

NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20
That appears on your posts right here.

Got it? Furthermore, heh, you apparently had email communication with people about this "big apology" you made. You made it.

No one faked over 2 thousand messages you posted on here. NO one faked your apology.

No one is faking you trash talking people on here like some trash from the gutter. You are making these posts. No one is faking posts where you are insising that a Cos member that's also a Mason has to be lying, therefore de facto calling him a liar.

All of them have the same IP on them, which is not being faked
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.39.20

Peachy Carnehan

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Aug 18, 2004, 12:09:22 AM8/18/04

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http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/I/IP_spoofing.html

http://www.networkcommand.com/docs/ipspoof.txt (scroll down to IP spoofing
paragraph)

http://www.iss.net/security_center/advice/Underground/Hacking/Methods/Technical/Spoofing/default.htm

http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue63/sharma.html

http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=48&a=14 (scroll down to IP spoofing
paragraph)

Need I say more?

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Jantsang

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Aug 18, 2004, 2:34:07 AM8/18/04

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In article <SDAUc.26338$9Y6...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
"Peachy Carnehan" <rafo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/I/IP_spoofing.html
>

A technique used to gain unauthorized access to computers, whereby the intruder sends messages to a computer with an IP address indicating that the message is coming from a trusted host. To engage in IP spoofing, a hacker must first use a variety of techniques to find an IP address of a trusted host and then modify the packet headers so that it appears that the packets are coming from that host.

I challenge you to spoof the IP on this message right here. I challenge you to spoof the IP on Kevin Filan's messages.

That is referring to complex hacking. Are you accusing Tani or anyone else of hacking into your computer?

You are the biggest liar to have ever hit all of usenet.

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Anonymous

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Aug 18, 2004, 5:06:15 AM8/18/04

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"Peachy Carnehan" <rafo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tani, people spoof IP's all day long.

John, showing himself to still be a complete moron with his Tani, Tani, Tani, Tani, Tani. Watch out! Tani is under the bed!

>
> Why don't you stick to the subject and answer a question...?:
>

>To that statement, which Ben Schultz confirmed, John Shaw declared to the world:
>
>Wrong. He cannot be both...the two principles are at odds with one another. he either lied to the CoS or he lied to his Brothers. Simple.
>
>Now will you please enlighten us all, and enlighten John Shaw on this issue? John Shaw is a Secretary of a Masonic Lodge. You can see what he has said.
>
Ben's sockpuppet Dagon Productions said,
"Simple fact is that he is currently both... at issue with John is a
dogmatic perception of Masonry. A Chaos Magician can be a Satanist, a Mason and a practioner of Vodun simultaneously... and accomplish such with honor and integrity... belief is a tool... much can be learned from believing anything... positive or negative
to one's point of perception wherein lays the foundation for exploring ones anathemas."

-Douglas

>What I find comical is seeing the Satanists all petting him, nice doggy, as if they believe a word he's saying about the IP.

Dagon Productions said, "Ever consider that no one believes John"

And then Douggie the mouthpiece for Ben imagines TANI everywhere on here and thinks something is "bugging" her. LOLOLOL.

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Aug 18, 2004, 8:45:11 AM8/18/04

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"Peachy Carnehan" <rafo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>

> Tani, people spoof IP's all day long.

John, showing himself to still be a complete moron with his Tani, Tani, Tani, Tani, Tani. Watch out! Tani is under the bed!
>

> Why don't you stick to the subject and answer a question...?:
>

Anonymous

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Aug 18, 2004, 10:32:10 AM8/18/04

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The news server guarantees that the true originating IP number will
show up in the headers. IPs cannot be "spoofed" on Usenet unless
the person doing the spoofing has access to every single worldwide
server that contributes/reads Usenet. And of course we are not
talking about a few messages we are talking about THOUSADS of
messages with Shaw's IP number. John played this kind of game
before when he insisted that his sock puppet Jason Shank was an
actual person. John is obviously hoping that his fellow Masonic
brothers are going to buy his cock and bull story.

The Scottsdale Lodge 43 and the Arizona Grand Lodge need to run
a little background check on Shaw.

Peachy Carnehan

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Aug 18, 2004, 11:20:22 AM8/18/04

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I don't know how to do that and never would, so I can't be challenged to do
it...why don't you ask those who have done it to me and others on here in
the past? Do you think that they would be stupid enough to do it now?
Tani, are you really this stupid? Why do you defend yourself so much with
anons? Why don't you post as yourself? You aren't fooling anyone...

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"YOU are a white man and a Christian. You have NO understanding." - Tani
Jantsang

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Peachy Carnehan

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Aug 18, 2004, 11:37:22 AM8/18/04

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I don't know how to do that and never would, so I can't be challenged to do
it...why don't you ask those who have done it to me and others on here in
the past? Do you think that they would be stupid enough to do it now?
Tani, are you really this stupid? Why do you defend yourself so much with
anons? Why don't you post as yourself? You aren't fooling anyone...

--

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Jantsang

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Peachy Carnehan

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Aug 18, 2004, 11:37:23 AM8/18/04

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"Anonymous" <nob...@paranoici.org> wrote in message
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> The news server guarantees that the true originating IP number will
> show up in the headers. IPs cannot be "spoofed" on Usenet unless
> the person doing the spoofing has access to every single worldwide
> server that contributes/reads Usenet. And of course we are not
> talking about a few messages we are talking about THOUSADS of
> messages with Shaw's IP number. John played this kind of game
> before when he insisted that his sock puppet Jason Shank was an
> actual person. John is obviously hoping that his fellow Masonic
> brothers are going to buy his cock and bull story.

The news server CANNOT guarantee that. This is the internet. It happens
ALL DAY LONG. Nobody is going to believe your cock and bull story because
it has and will continue to be done.

> The Scottsdale Lodge 43 and the Arizona Grand Lodge need to run
> a little background check on Shaw.

They don't perform background checks for one, and B, it wouldn't matter what
was done in the PAST. It is the FUTURE that matters, kiddo. I expected you
to know that, Tani. You clearly have no knowledge of Freemasonry.

_|||||||_

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Aug 18, 2004, 12:41:59 PM8/18/04

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You are delusional. I never said anything remotely like that in the, what
is it? FOUR emails I ever mailed you in those many years. FOUR. Maybe 2
more
from www.com. SIX. That's it. And that would be over the entire time you
splashed and thrashed on alt.s. I never told you any such thing. You are a
LIAR and I hope Ben brings you up on charges within Masonry for being the
TOTAL ASS you are.

I wish on you a cat 4 hurricane, plus tornado, plus earthquake, plus plague.

GO AWAY. I DO NOT post anon. I FLAME under my own name. I find it very
interesting all the anons here since I couldn't get on - and all the "poo
regulars" RESPONDING to them, like fucking morons who claim they killfile
the anons. Looks like they pay very close attention to the anons. Heh.

GO AWAY. Yeah, this IS Tani.

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Aug 18, 2004, 12:53:14 PM8/18/04

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Riiiiiight...we believe ya...

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George

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