Newserver Stats - the HTML gorilla vs Giganews @ 3200 pounds "heavy"
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Whiskers <catwhee... @operamail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:27:41 +0100
Local: Sat, Aug 29 2009 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: Newserver Stats - the HTML gorilla vs Giganews @ 3200 pounds "heavy"
On 2009-08-29, Robb <--r
... @shared-secrets.com> wrote:
> Frequency of Domain as Origination:
> 8/27/2009
[...]
> As the counts are sampled often, these totals are a snapshot
With or without spam? Over what period of time and in which groups?
It would be particularly interesting to know what proportion of the posts
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Whiskers <catwhee... @operamail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:14:35 +0100
Local: Sat, Aug 29 2009 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: Newserver Stats - the HTML gorilla vs Giganews @ 3200 pounds "heavy"
On 2009-08-29, Robb <--r
... @shared-secrets.com> wrote:
> Whiskers wrote:
>>On 2009-08-29, Robb <--r... @shared-secrets.com> wrote:
>>> 8/27/2009
>>> As the counts are sampled often, these totals are a snapshot
>>With or without spam? Over what period of time and in which groups?
> Certainly including spam, it's the whole shinola.
Binaries too? If so the numbers are very low.
>>It would be particularly interesting to know what proportion of the posts
>>originating from Google are spam.
> I have it, I'm kinda reluctant to post that, my intent isn't to slam anyone
I think it might be hilarious to see how much spam comes from Google ;))
> seen that long list yet?
Message-ID: <6pli95lclgjdldn2lsc02dv7k93mm033v5@shared-secrets.com>?
Striking that more than half the 'posters' managed only one post!
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Aioe <est... @aioe.org> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:43:43 +0200
Local: Sat, Aug 29 2009 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: Newserver Stats - the HTML gorilla vs Giganews @ 3200 pounds "heavy"
Robb wrote:
what are 'Domains as Originators' in technical words?
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Tony <T... @TheDeli.Sandwich> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:48:46 -0400
Local: Sat, Aug 29 2009 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: Newserver Stats - the HTML gorilla vs Giganews @ 3200 pounds "heavy"
389 posts from the twats out west... the dumbest *fuckers* on Earth.
Robb wrote:
> Frequency of Domain as Origination:
> 8/27/2009
> As the counts are sampled often, these totals are a snapshot
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Aratzio <a6ahly... @sneakemail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:15:07 -0700
Local: Sat, Aug 29 2009 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: Newserver Stats - the HTML gorilla vs Giganews @ 3200 pounds "heavy"
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:43:43 +0200, in the land of
alt.free.newsservers, Aioe <est
... @aioe.org> got double secret
probation for writing:
>Robb wrote:
>> Frequency of Domain as Origination:
>what are 'Domains as Originators' in technical words?
Sourced from a specific Universal Resource Locator.
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From: _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid
Date: 30 Aug 2009 06:10:58 GMT
Local: Sun, Aug 30 2009 2:10 am
Subject: High volume posters skewed Robb's report.
High volume posters skewed Robb's report:
I solve that problem by limiting each nym/nym·shifter to its last 30 and
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Whiskers <catwhee... @operamail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:19:54 +0100
Local: Sun, Aug 30 2009 9:19 am
Subject: Re: High volume posters skewed Robb's report.
On 2009-08-30, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid <_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid> wrote:
>
> High volume posters skewed Robb's report:
> giganews.com 68,409 17.1
> astraweb.com 52,434 13.1
> tweaknews.nl 19,111 4.8
> googlegroups.com 18,037 4.5
> I solve that problem by limiting each nym/nym·shifter to its last 30 and
Depends whether you want to count 'how many people posting' or 'how many
posts'. Combining both stats gives an indication of what the prolific
posters tend to use, which might be an indication of what is the easiest
to post with (but possibly not what is most efficient to read with).
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From: _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid
Date: 31 Aug 2009 04:22:21 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 31 2009 12:22 am
Subject: attention == dollars
Google is raking in the cash, and Google·Groups is part of that.
How do Astra·Web and Giga·News compare ? no one really knows.
I'm not tracking band·width (I can't, for one thing),
Lately, in Alt.Free.Newsservers, it's been:
Only those who posted in the last 9 days are listed.
1. 21 1/, slrn, Mixmin.NET; Steve•Crook, steve·@mixmin.net
3. 3/, Forté, Shared-Secr; Robb, --robb·@shared-secrets.com
5. 2/, Micro·Soft, Alt.NET; Gregory•Hall, greghall·@home.fake
7. 2/, trn, Eternal-Sep; undertow·@news.vrx.net, Box•of•Frogs
9. 14 , slrn, Individual.; Whiskers, catwheezel·@operamail.com
11. 14 , Pan, Octanews.CO; Lenny_Nero, lennyUNDERSCOREnero·@hotmail
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From: _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid
Date: 31 Aug 2009 10:47:42 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 31 2009 6:47 am
Subject: Junior·@tioat uses slrn, he's probably Geoff Brozny (Glorb's admin).
I wrote:
“ 1. 21 1/, slrn, Mixmin.NET; Steve•Crook, steve·@mixmin.net
2. 2/, •, Tioat.NET; Son•of•Serpent•Esq, junior·@tioat.net ”.
Junior·@tioat uses slrn, he's probably Geoff Brozny (Glorb's admin).
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From: _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid
Date: 31 Aug 2009 13:09:08 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 31 2009 9:09 am
Subject: Lately, in Sci.Physics, those drawing the most attention were:
Lately, in Sci.Physics, those drawing the most attention were:
[ Note: JSH made only 17 posts in the last 1.1 months (10 thousand posts);
Only those who posted in the last 9 days are listed.
1. 6/, Gecko, X-Privat.OR; Phil Bouchard, phil·@fornux.com
3. 10/, Google·, Google·; PD, thedraperfamily·@gmail.com
5. 3/, MSN·TV, MSN·TV; herbertglazier·@webtv.net, G=EMC^2 Glazier
7. 5/, Google·, Google·; oriel36, kelleher.gerald·@gmail.com
9. 16 1/, Gecko, Zen.CO.UK; Mark Murray, w.h.oami·@example.com
11. 3/, Google·, Google·; Benj, bjacoby·@iwaynet.net
read more »
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eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos... @gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:41:18 -0800
Local: Mon, Aug 31 2009 12:41 pm
Subject: Re:  Lately, in Sci.Physics, those drawing the most attention were:
_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
[snip all, unread]
GET THE FUCK BACK INTO THE KILLFILE
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tommy <to... @no.such.user> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:25:59 +0200
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 8:25 am
Subject: Re: Newserver Stats - the HTML gorilla vs Giganews @ 3200 pounds "heavy"
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:06:07 -0500, wrote Robb:
> Frequency of Domain as Origination:
> 8/27/2009
> As the counts are sampled often, these totals are a snapshot so it's not
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tommy <to... @no.such.user> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:29:03 +0200
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 8:29 am
Subject: Re: Newserver Stats - the HTML gorilla vs Giganews @ 3200 pounds "heavy"
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:25:59 +0200, wrote tommy:
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:06:07 -0500, wrote Robb:
>> Frequency of Domain as Origination:
>> 8/27/2009
>> As the counts are sampled often, these totals are a snapshot so it's
Lol had nothing better to say. Anyway nice to see some different
statistics instead of what is currently presented as the top1000.
T.
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From:
Ray Banana <ray... @banana.shacknet.nu> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 13:06:43 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 9:06 am
Subject: Re: Newserver Stats - the HTML gorilla vs Giganews @ 3200 pounds "heavy"
* Robb wrote:
> Frequency of Domain as Origination:
> 8/27/2009
> As the counts are sampled often, these totals are a snapshot
What is the source of these statistics? In a way it reminds me
of the statistics published at
http://www.newsadmin.com/postservice.asp
which are quite arbitr^Wselective, as they seem to ignore a considerable
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moro... @world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 18:03:29 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 2:03 pm
Subject: Re:  Lately, in Sci.Physics, those drawing the most attention were:
eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos
... @gmail.com> writes:
>_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
>[snip all, unread]
>GET THE FUCK BACK INTO THE KILLFILE
Jeff is easy to killfile. Just kill on the nonstandard UTF Byte Order
Mark he always sticks in the Subject: line (and body) of all his
posts. Just don't announce doing so, else he'll whine "You said 'Uncle'"
about it.
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eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos... @gmail.com> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:33:49 -0800
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 3:33 pm
Subject: Re:  Lately, in Sci.Physics, those drawing the most attention were:
Michael Moroney wrote:
> eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos
... @gmail.com> writes:
>>_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
>>GET THE FUCK BACK INTO THE KILLFILE
> Jeff is easy to killfile. Just kill on the nonstandard UTF Byte Order
Do you have a regular expression that can match that? That seems to be the
only option for KNode.
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From: _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 20:02:22 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 4:02 pm
Subject: Eric Gisse cries ·whaaa·plonk·whaaa· everytime I post to Sci.Phyics.
Gisse's kill·file doesn't work;
Moroney looks at the charset specified in my header:
then he looks at the UTF·8·signature in my “Subject:” line (U+FeFF):
“ In particular, in UTF-16 plain text,
When concatenating two strings,
Also, some specifications mandate
then he thinks to himself:
“ UTF+FeFF is white·space, same as ASCII 32 or U+00A0 (hard·space).
www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM/X.CPP
Then, naturally, he concludes:
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From: _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 20:31:27 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 4:31 pm
Subject: Sorting by who/what·posted·the·most makes no sense.
Sorting by who/what·posted·the·most makes no sense.
Sorting by date makes sense,
Unless you're a high·quality poster,
If I don't know who you are, or I just don't like you,
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moro... @world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 20:50:15 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 4:50 pm
Subject: Re:  Lately, in Sci.Physics, those drawing the most attention were:
eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos
... @gmail.com> writes:
>Michael Moroney wrote:
>> eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos
... @gmail.com> writes:
>>>_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
>>>GET THE FUCK BACK INTO THE KILLFILE
>> Jeff is easy to killfile. Just kill on the nonstandard UTF Byte Order
I'm not familiar with KNode. What is the syntax to kill a certain string
in the Subject: line? Also, how KNode interprets Jeff's subject lines
affects things. Look at any of his posts. Do you see anything before the
plain text of his subjects? (" Lately, in Sci.Physics,.." for this
thread)? KNode may try to fix the subject (it does in your replies). If
so you'll see the RFC-2047 string "=?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BB=BF?=" or
"=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=EF=BB=BF?=" when viewing his post. Kill on that phrase.
Or it may try to interpret it as text, and it will appear as 3 characters,
likely an "i" with two dots/umlaut, a double greater-than sign and
upside-down question mark if interpreted as ISO-8859-1 or Windows-1252.
Kill on that 3 character string. Here it is, if it doesn't get mangled in
transit: //
These will kill some, but not all, replies to his posts as the various
Or just kill on "Jeff_Relf" in the From: line.
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moro... @world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 21:10:46 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 5:10 pm
Subject: Re:  Lately, in Sci.Physics, those drawing the most attention were:
_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid writes:
[reinsert part of my post]
>> Jeff is easy to killfile. Just kill on the nonstandard UTF Byte Order
[snip Jeff's mis-imagining my thought process]
Nope. I said it was nonstandard because:
1) it's not compliant with RFC-2047 (Header Extensions for Non-ASCII Text)
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From: _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:55:36 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 6:55 pm
Subject: Are you lame, Michael Moroney ?
Are you lame, Michael Moroney ?
Why are you re·posting my “Subject:” line
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moro... @world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 01:52:17 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 9:52 pm
Subject: Re:  Lately, in Sci.Physics, those drawing the most attention were:
> Why are you reposting my Subject: line
Apparently you didn't notice that it was Eric Gisse's newsreader that
created that subject line, and I didn't feel like repeating your whine
about being killfiled by Eric you had in your last subject, so I simply
reused an old subject.
It's amusing how different newsreaders choke on your borken Subject:
(and it's ISO-8859-1 encoded, not Windows-1252. Not that there's much
p.s. Eric, I told you he'd whine about being killfiled.
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From: _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 02:57:11 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Sep 1 2009 10:57 pm
Subject: Eric Gisse cries ·whaaa·plonk·whaaa· everytime I post to Sci.Phyics.
First lame·Moroney thinks my “Subject:” line is Windows·1252 encoded,
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moro... @world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:26:01 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Sep 2 2009 8:26 am
Subject: Re:  Lately, in Sci.Physics, those drawing the most attention were:
> First lame Moroney thinks my Subject: line is
No, I think your br0ken Subject: line looks better this way. I think I'll
keep it.
> then he talks to Eric like he was here, reading Alt.Free.Newsservers
Eric asked a question of me (help to killfile your posts) and at the same
time set Followup-To: to alt.free.newsservers (no such group as
Alt.Free.Newsservers BTW). I assumed he followed that group or at minimum
this thread, so I respected his followup, as this thread doesn't belong in
sci.physics. (It's off topic to alt.free.newsservers as well, but I
digress) Either he's following this or it's he that is being lame by
asking a question and setting Followup-To: to a group he doesn't read.
And, of course, you being lame just by being you.
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