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Re: Is there a good nntp client for Centos 6 that handles SSL native?
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Frank Jones
May 5, 2013, 4:21:38 AM5/5/13
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On Fri, 03 May 2013 23:08:53 +0000, Frank Jones wrote:
> $ yum --noplugins --showduplicates --enablerepo \* --disablerepo c6-media,
> \*-source,\*debug\* provides "*/knode"
>
> ==> Many matches but none are the Knode program we want.
Just to follow up on using Knode for posting to the free newsserver Mixmin,
the correct install command on Centos turned out to be:
$ sudo yum install kdepim -y
Unfortunately, that installs a lot of junk you don't want:
==> Installed: kdepim.x86_66:4.3.4-6.el6
==> Dependency Installed:
akonadi.x86_64 0:1.2.1-2.el6
kdelibs-experimental.x86_64 0:4.3.4-3.el6
kdepim-libs.x86_64 6:4.3.4-6.el6
kdepimlibs.x86_64 0:4.3.4-4.el6
kdepimlibs-akonadi.x86_64 0:4.3.4-4.el6
qt-mysql.x86_64 1:4.6.2-26.el6_4
But, worse yet, Knode didn't work for Mixmin. :(
$ knode -v
==> Qt: 4.6.2, KDE: 4.3.4 (KDE 4.3.4), KNode: 4.3.5
$ knode &
{Knode}Settings->Configure Knode->Identity->
Name = foo
Email Address = f...@is.invalid
{Knode}Settings->Configure Knode->Accounts->Newsgroup Servers->Add
Name = Mixmin
Server = news.mixmin.net
Port = 563
Encyryption = SSL
{Knode}Article->Post to Newsgroup
Groups = alt.test
Followups to = alt.test
Subject = test
Body = test
File->Send Now
Unfortunately, there is no error message (that I could see), yet it failed
to post. It even failed to obtain the group list.
To test, I set up Aioe.org, which worked just fine from Knode:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853710/img/12853710.png
So, it must be the Mixmin SSL setup that's bad.
But I don't see anything wrong with this Mixmin setup?
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853732/img/12853732.png
So, I moved on to xpn, which worked for Mixmin, first time.
XPN was so easy, I won't bother further with Knode, and, if asked,
I wouldn't recommend Knode either (mostly due to the extra junk installed
but also due to the lack of error message and the fact it failed on me).
$ yum --noplugins --showduplicates --enablerepo \* --disablerepo c6-media,\*-source,\*debug\* provides "*/xpn"
REPORTS: No Matches found
I downloaded version 1.2.6 from:
http://xpn.altervista.org/codice/xpn-1.2.6.tar.gz
As suggested, I simply extracted and executed "xpny.py" to start xpn,
and the setup was as easy as I would have expected an NNTP setup to be.
I simply set up the minimum user & server information:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853990/img/12853990.png
Fetched the list of available groups for that server:
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853992/img/12853992.png
And, then posted to the alt.test newsgroup:
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853993/img/12853993.png
Unlike Thunderbird & Knode (which were nntp-horrid for different reasons)
it was that easy (as it should be) on xpn to post using port 553 SSL native!
Thanks!
SUMMARY:
Linux native SSL NNTP clients:
a) xpn (worked on the first pass after a simple and intuitive NNTP setup)!
b) Knode (problematic - didn't work on first pass & provided no error messages)
c) Thunderbird (problematic - setup was not intuitive and didn't work for me)
d) Pan 0.136 (problematic - requires compilation - which often fails for me)
> $ yum --noplugins --showduplicates --enablerepo \* --disablerepo c6-media,
> \*-source,\*debug\* provides "*/knode"
>
> ==> Many matches but none are the Knode program we want.
Just to follow up on using Knode for posting to the free newsserver Mixmin,
the correct install command on Centos turned out to be:
$ sudo yum install kdepim -y
Unfortunately, that installs a lot of junk you don't want:
==> Installed: kdepim.x86_66:4.3.4-6.el6
==> Dependency Installed:
akonadi.x86_64 0:1.2.1-2.el6
kdelibs-experimental.x86_64 0:4.3.4-3.el6
kdepim-libs.x86_64 6:4.3.4-6.el6
kdepimlibs.x86_64 0:4.3.4-4.el6
kdepimlibs-akonadi.x86_64 0:4.3.4-4.el6
qt-mysql.x86_64 1:4.6.2-26.el6_4
But, worse yet, Knode didn't work for Mixmin. :(
$ knode -v
==> Qt: 4.6.2, KDE: 4.3.4 (KDE 4.3.4), KNode: 4.3.5
$ knode &
{Knode}Settings->Configure Knode->Identity->
Name = foo
Email Address = f...@is.invalid
{Knode}Settings->Configure Knode->Accounts->Newsgroup Servers->Add
Name = Mixmin
Server = news.mixmin.net
Port = 563
Encyryption = SSL
{Knode}Article->Post to Newsgroup
Groups = alt.test
Followups to = alt.test
Subject = test
Body = test
File->Send Now
Unfortunately, there is no error message (that I could see), yet it failed
to post. It even failed to obtain the group list.
To test, I set up Aioe.org, which worked just fine from Knode:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853710/img/12853710.png
So, it must be the Mixmin SSL setup that's bad.
But I don't see anything wrong with this Mixmin setup?
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853732/img/12853732.png
So, I moved on to xpn, which worked for Mixmin, first time.
XPN was so easy, I won't bother further with Knode, and, if asked,
I wouldn't recommend Knode either (mostly due to the extra junk installed
but also due to the lack of error message and the fact it failed on me).
$ yum --noplugins --showduplicates --enablerepo \* --disablerepo c6-media,\*-source,\*debug\* provides "*/xpn"
REPORTS: No Matches found
I downloaded version 1.2.6 from:
http://xpn.altervista.org/codice/xpn-1.2.6.tar.gz
As suggested, I simply extracted and executed "xpny.py" to start xpn,
and the setup was as easy as I would have expected an NNTP setup to be.
I simply set up the minimum user & server information:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853990/img/12853990.png
Fetched the list of available groups for that server:
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853992/img/12853992.png
And, then posted to the alt.test newsgroup:
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853993/img/12853993.png
Unlike Thunderbird & Knode (which were nntp-horrid for different reasons)
it was that easy (as it should be) on xpn to post using port 553 SSL native!
Thanks!
SUMMARY:
Linux native SSL NNTP clients:
a) xpn (worked on the first pass after a simple and intuitive NNTP setup)!
b) Knode (problematic - didn't work on first pass & provided no error messages)
c) Thunderbird (problematic - setup was not intuitive and didn't work for me)
d) Pan 0.136 (problematic - requires compilation - which often fails for me)
Ray Banana
May 5, 2013, 4:50:41 AM5/5/13
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Frank Jones wrote:
> Just to follow up on using Knode for posting to the free newsserver
> Mixmin, the correct install command on Centos turned out to be:
> $ sudo yum install kdepim -y
>
> Unfortunately, that installs a lot of junk you don't want:
That's the KDE bloat, you don't get KNODE without it.
> Just to follow up on using Knode for posting to the free newsserver
> Mixmin, the correct install command on Centos turned out to be:
> $ sudo yum install kdepim -y
>
> Unfortunately, that installs a lot of junk you don't want:
> But, worse yet, Knode didn't work for Mixmin. :(
>
> So, it must be the Mixmin SSL setup that's bad.
--
Too many ingredients in the soup, no room for a spoon.
Jeff-Relf.Me
May 5, 2013, 5:08:18 AM5/5/13
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Re: You ( Ray⋅Banana ) posting via KNode and "Mixmin.NET"; to wit:
news:km56hi$bak$1...@news.mixmin.net
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.free.newsservers/msg/3dbeca70b7bc0022
KNode can't crosspost properly, as I recall.
For example, you ( Ray⋅Banana ) posted to just one newsgroup,
"Alt.Free.Newsservers", and you directed all replies to "Alt.OS.Linux",
a group you don't read. Frank⋅Jones might not see it, D'oh !
P.S. "Marlboro Smooth" is candy⋅sweet peppermint chocolate;
ingredients include: Cocoa, Peppermint Oil, Licorice, Sugar, Menthol.
Nice !
news:km56hi$bak$1...@news.mixmin.net
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.free.newsservers/msg/3dbeca70b7bc0022
KNode can't crosspost properly, as I recall.
For example, you ( Ray⋅Banana ) posted to just one newsgroup,
"Alt.Free.Newsservers", and you directed all replies to "Alt.OS.Linux",
a group you don't read. Frank⋅Jones might not see it, D'oh !
P.S. "Marlboro Smooth" is candy⋅sweet peppermint chocolate;
ingredients include: Cocoa, Peppermint Oil, Licorice, Sugar, Menthol.
Nice !
Frank Jones
May 5, 2013, 2:55:37 PM5/5/13
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On Sun, 05 May 2013 02:08:18 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> KNode can't crosspost properly, as I recall.
Ooops. I had just sent a reply to only alt.os.linux because
> KNode can't crosspost properly, as I recall.
I had respected the followup.
Here's the repeat:
On Sun, 05 May 2013 10:50:41 +0200, Ray Banana wrote:
>> So, it must be the Mixmin SSL setup that's bad.
> that's not correct.
earth could I have set incorrectly since it only needs
2 things, the server (news.mixmin.net) & the port (563)?
Bearing in mind, my setup to Aioe.org worked just fine with
Knode, and that I'm posting using Mixmin on Pan with stunnel,
what's different here from your Mixmin setup?
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853732/img/12853732.png
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[Tor] Knoxy 2.02
May 5, 2013, 4:17:40 PM5/5/13
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On Sun, 5 May 2013 18:55:37 +0000 (UTC), Frank Jones wasted
alt.free.newsservers,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware's time with:
> On Sun, 05 May 2013 02:08:18 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> KNode can't crosspost properly, as I recall.
>
> Ooops. I had just sent a reply to only alt.os.linux because
> I had respected the followup.
>
> Here's the repeat:
>
> On Sun, 05 May 2013 10:50:41 +0200, Ray Banana wrote:
>>> So, it must be the Mixmin SSL setup that's bad.
>> that's not correct.
>
> I fully believe that Knode works for you; but what on
^^^^^^^
DING! DING! DING! DING!
DERBYSHIRE!!!! GET'IM!!!!!!1!
hehe
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alt.free.newsservers,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware's time with:
> On Sun, 05 May 2013 02:08:18 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> KNode can't crosspost properly, as I recall.
>
> Ooops. I had just sent a reply to only alt.os.linux because
> I had respected the followup.
>
> Here's the repeat:
>
> On Sun, 05 May 2013 10:50:41 +0200, Ray Banana wrote:
>>> So, it must be the Mixmin SSL setup that's bad.
>> that's not correct.
>
> I fully believe that Knode works for you; but what on
DING! DING! DING! DING!
> earth could I have set incorrectly since it only needs
> 2 things, the server (news.mixmin.net) & the port (563)?
>
> Bearing in mind, my setup to Aioe.org worked just fine with
> Knode, and that I'm posting using Mixmin on Pan with stunnel,
> what's different here from your Mixmin setup?
>
> http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853732/img/12853732.png
Whoa, hey Flash, it's one o' them tattletale semicolons! FRANK JONES IS
> 2 things, the server (news.mixmin.net) & the port (563)?
>
> Bearing in mind, my setup to Aioe.org worked just fine with
> Knode, and that I'm posting using Mixmin on Pan with stunnel,
> what's different here from your Mixmin setup?
>
> http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853732/img/12853732.png
DERBYSHIRE!!!! GET'IM!!!!!!1!
hehe
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Frank Jones
May 5, 2013, 4:31:46 PM5/5/13
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On Sun, 05 May 2013 16:17:40 -0400, [Tor] Knoxy 2.02 wrote:
> Whoa, hey Flash, it's one o' them tattletale semicolons! FRANK JONES IS
> DERBYSHIRE!!!! GET'IM!!!!!!1!
I have no idea what a Derbyshire is ... but if my use of proper
> Whoa, hey Flash, it's one o' them tattletale semicolons! FRANK JONES IS
> DERBYSHIRE!!!! GET'IM!!!!!!1!
English punctuation flags me somehow as unwanted, I'd hate to
see what happens to those illiterati who can't punctuate or spell!
:)
cipher
May 5, 2013, 6:16:48 PM5/5/13
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On Sun, 05 May 2013 20:31:46 +0000, Frank Jones Inscribed upon the Golden
Tablets of Usenet thusly:
Sounds like Paul...
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