definition of the word "freak"
LykeMike
particular newsgroup, everyone else out there has a totally different meaning
for this word than I do. Is anybody out there a freak? tell me why & how
you're freaky.
lykemike
Your Regular Mafioso
I breathe.
--
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Your Regular Mafioso
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Tananda
LykeMike wrote in message <19990514043809...@ng-cl1.aol.com>...
> What do you consider a "freak" to be? according to what I've seen in this
>particular newsgroup, everyone else out there has a totally different
meaning
>for this word than I do. Is anybody out there a freak? tell me why & how
>you're freaky.
Well, for me, it's kind of a cross between interests and lifestyle... I am
into goth, medieval reenactment, vampire roleplaying and folklore, SF, and
lots of computer crap. I guess what differentiates mere interests from true
freakishness in my book is taht I kind of live my life that way - at work, I
am almost never seen in any colors but black, white, shades of gray, and the
occasional splash of red. I have a livingroom covered in cobwebs, gargoyles,
and candles while at the same time I have a full 100BaseT Ethernet with 5
computer systems winding its way through my house. I go to SF cons, but
never get around to the actual events because I am too busy partying with my
"freak friends" ( http://www.black-pages.net/freakevents/ ) and generally
making a nuisence of myself. While I don't drink blood or believe I am some
immortal creature, I am extrememly attracted to the vampyre asthetic, and
love freaking people out by wearing my fangs on a regular basis.
The usual response I get from 'normals' is, "You're such a freak." It used
to bother me when I was a kid, but I have learned to 'take ownership' of it
and now, I wear that title as a badge of honor. So now, I identify with it
and seek out the same kinds of qualities in my friends and relations.
With all that said, I think "Freakness" is in the individual - everyone who
wears that "badge of honor" probably defines "freak" in a unique manner.
Most of all, I think its about being able to make up your own rules of who
you are and how you respond to this twisted world.
Tananda
The Velvet Elvis
>Well, for me, it's kind of a cross between interests and lifestyle... I am
>into goth, medieval reenactment, vampire roleplaying and folklore, SF, and
>lots of computer crap. I guess what differentiates mere interests from true
>freakishness in my book is taht I kind of live my life that way - at work, I
>am almost never seen in any colors but black, white, shades of gray, and the
>occasional splash of red.
This doesn't mean you're a freak, this shows that you are BORING.
Goths. *yawn*
Black, black, and more black.
That is sooooooooo original. Gee, you ought to be institutionalized before you
change the world of fashion upside down with your boldness.
>With all that said, I think "Freakness" is in the individual - everyone who
>wears that "badge of honor" probably defines "freak" in a unique manner.
>Most of all, I think its about being able to make up your own rules of who
>you are and how you respond to this twisted world.
You're a freak if you wear a giant bowling pin costume and do the Moonwalk.
--
~Velvet Elvis
|| "i was rude: IN FACT I HAD THE SAME OMEN FOR A SORT OF LOVE AFFAIR ONE OF
THE FATALS AND ... IT ALL MESSED UP WITH NEPTUNE TRANSITTING PLUTO, AN OLD
WITCH, MUTUAL ORGASMS AND voodoo PSHCHOSIS" ||
The Velvet Elvis
>
>Spinning on its wheel, the hamster in LykeMike's head shouted:
>
>>particular newsgroup, everyone else out there has a totally different meaning
>>for this word than I do. Is anybody out there a freak? tell me why & how
>>you're freaky.
>
No, you're a freak if you want to be "like Mike".
They should just leave us decent fraeks alone.
bastet
more powerful computer system. I also don't do vampire roleplaying. Being a
"freak" in my city means lots of black, alternative music, usually superbright
people with a few hangers-on, piercings, things tattooed, and just generally
behaving and holding opinions different from the mainstream. Or almost any of
the above-I have nothing pierced, no tattoos. dress somewhat conservatively at
work (my idea of conservative, slightly different from the higher-ups), but I
also like very dark music like NIN, Korn, KMFDM, and am into gothic things like
vampires (have a dentist made set of fangs on a partial plate), and I go to sci
fi conventions. It's a very personal thing. I just can't stand the things that
mundanes enjoy, like tole-painting, flowered dresses, manicured lawns, and
worrying about wearing white shoes in the winter. (I don't own white shoes, so
no prob.) It is about rules-who makes them, and who obeys them, and what happens
if you break them. I don't totally ignore all rules of society and proper
behaviour-I just ignore the silly ones like no hats indoors after 6 pm and your
purse/bag having to match your shoes. I don't use bad language in public, don't
pick my nose, and I cover my mouth when I cough. I hold doors for people and
give them my seat on the bus. Mostly being a freak is about knowing how screwed
up this world really is and still choosing to live in it, but on your own terms.
Tananda wrote:
> Well, for me, it's kind of a cross between interests and lifestyle... I am
> into goth, medieval reenactment, vampire roleplaying and folklore, SF, and
> lots of computer crap. I guess what differentiates mere interests from true
> freakishness in my book is taht I kind of live my life that way - at work, I
> am almost never seen in any colors but black, white, shades of gray, and the
> occasional splash of red. I have a livingroom covered in cobwebs, gargoyles,
> and candles while at the same time I have a full 100BaseT Ethernet with 5
> computer systems winding its way through my house. I go to SF cons, but
> never get around to the actual events because I am too busy partying with my
> "freak friends" ( http://www.black-pages.net/freakevents/ ) and generally
> making a nuisence of myself. While I don't drink blood or believe I am some
> immortal creature, I am extrememly attracted to the vampyre asthetic, and
> love freaking people out by wearing my fangs on a regular basis.
>
> The usual response I get from 'normals' is, "You're such a freak." It used
> to bother me when I was a kid, but I have learned to 'take ownership' of it
> and now, I wear that title as a badge of honor. So now, I identify with it
> and seek out the same kinds of qualities in my friends and relations.
>
> With all that said, I think "Freakness" is in the individual - everyone who
> wears that "badge of honor" probably defines "freak" in a unique manner.
> Most of all, I think its about being able to make up your own rules of who
> you are and how you respond to this twisted world.
>
> Tananda
The Velvet Elvis
Hmm...just one question.
>Hey Tananda! You sort of sound like me, except for the cobwebs and your much
>more powerful computer system. I also don't do vampire roleplaying. Being a
>"freak" in my city means lots of black, alternative music, usually superbright
>people with a few hangers-on, piercings, things tattooed, and just generally
>behaving and holding opinions different from the mainstream.
If being a "freak" is that easy, considering the word "freak" itself, how the
hell can you classify one so easily?
Oh, I see...dress in uninspired, bland clothing, listen to "alternative" (yet
highly disposable) music like NIN and Korn, get the usual piercings and tattoos
JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, and then...and then...you can be DIFFERENT.
Ah, it all makes perfect sense now.
>I just can't stand the things that
>mundanes enjoy, like tole-painting, flowered dresses, manicured lawns, and
>worrying about wearing white shoes in the winter. (I don't own white shoes,
so
>no prob.)
"Insane in the mundane."
You elistist twat.
Hey, right now I am listening to some imported French pop music, and I am
LOVING it, so there!
>Mostly being a freak is about knowing how screwed up this world really is and
>still choosing to live in it, but on your own terms.
And don't forget 'conformity', of course. The most important thing about being
a freak is Conformity.
Pris Batty
Velvet Elvis) wrote:
>Tananda (tan...@mediaone.net) escribió:
>
>>Well, for me, it's kind of a cross between interests and lifestyle... I am
>>into goth, medieval reenactment, vampire roleplaying and folklore, SF, and
>>lots of computer crap. I guess what differentiates mere interests from true
>>freakishness in my book is taht I kind of live my life that way - at work, I
>>am almost never seen in any colors but black, white, shades of gray, and the
>>occasional splash of red.
>
>This doesn't mean you're a freak, this shows that you are BORING.
>
>Goths. *yawn*
>
>Black, black, and more black.
>
>That is sooooooooo original. Gee, you ought to be institutionalized before you
>change the world of fashion upside down with your boldness.
>
>>With all that said, I think "Freakness" is in the individual - everyone who
>>wears that "badge of honor" probably defines "freak" in a unique manner.
>>Most of all, I think its about being able to make up your own rules of who
>>you are and how you respond to this twisted world.
>
>You're a freak if you wear a giant bowling pin costume and do the Moonwalk.
Hey Kidz, Im Baaaaaaaaak after a d-drive wipeout. Guess what
V-elvis, Tananda Is one of my friends from the re-enactment society I
belong to. And truuuuuuuust me, she gets weirder things in her
breakfast cerial.... Ive seen her in more compromising positions
than some one wearing a bowling pin costume. Ditch the anti goth
sentiment will ya. Its old.
And Tananda is one of the few folk Id call truly genuine.
Pris Batty
> What do you consider a "freak" to be? according to what I've seen in this
>particular newsgroup, everyone else out there has a totally different meaning
>for this word than I do. Is anybody out there a freak? tell me why & how
>you're freaky.
>lykemike
Okay, this individual said "tell me why & how you're freaky."
calling for OPINNIONS about ones self, NOT opinions about who's
opinions are right or wrong. sheesh.
(pris lumbers over to her library, climbs ladder~REALLY~ grabs
dictionaries, chases away cat and THUD!, THUD!)
Britannica,1956 (for "historical" viewpoint) Noun 1.A sudden
causeless change of mind: a whim. 2. A malformation; monstrosity.
3. A splash; streak. See synonyms under whim. OR verb 1. To mark
with spots or flecks; streak. (compare Freckle)
...
Websters Ninth, 1986 (more contemporary) (origin unknown) (1563)
(WOWIE! like three hundred words... herm... to edit.)
1: a. a sudden and odd or seemingly pointless idea or turn of mind.
b.capricious action or event. 2: . archaic: whimsical quality or
disposition. 3: .one that is markedly abnormal or unuisual: as A.
person or animal with physical oddity. B. slang, a sexual deviate
c. Hippie... d. an ardent enthusiast... e. an atypical postage
stamp...
FREAK, vi (1965) 1: to withdraw from reality... 2: to experience
nightmarish hallucinations... 3: to beahve irrationally or
unconventionally... (note 1, 3, and 3, ended with "either under, or as
if under the influence of drugs") ~vt 1: to put under the influence
of psychadelic drug (as in "freak out") 2: to disturb the composure
of: upset.
MAYHAPS, I see the point of all this badgering given the very last
deffinition.
Anybody got this years dictionary or program? Curious how the word
has evolved.
Pris Batty
> What do you consider a "freak" to be?
Now MY editorial.
A "freak" by any other name, is still part of a crowd. No one is
"origonal", nothing is "new". You coment that you observe that it
seems that each individual has a diff deffinition of the word freak.
EXAKKETTELLY!!!
We are talking here about societal freaks. Not those with physical
deformities.
I beleive that it is our societal freaks that are both the forgers of
the next generation of thought, and the canaries that warn of the
degradation of society.
Evry new face, conveying a re-examination of an idea, has been labled
"odd" and deviat by their own society, and called a genious by the
next.
Evry societal group dvelopes its own sub groups, which mature, grow
and change again. Back to the simple rule of fractal existance.
A freak, usually has one thing in common with all other freaks, the
desire to de-construct "reality", and define him/her self. To realise
their own uniqueness and potential.
Freaks come in all shapes, sizes, colors, fettishes, obsessions,
mentalities, economic groups etc etc.
Foot sniffers, latex wearers, painters, serial killers (betcha thought
id spell it Cerial killers didntcha!), authors, psycologists,
students, bottle cap collectors, porn junkies, junk junkies,
schitzophrenics, truck drivers, bikers, olympic level athelets,
homosexuals, smokers, non smokers, single moms, stay at home dads, etc
etc...
blah blh blah, and insomnia reighns in my world, Im off to drink tea.
Pris
bastet
The Velvet Elvis wrote:
Thanks for nothing. Did I mention that being a freak also includes acceptance of
others differences? I don't wear all black, nor do I consider myself to be a goth,
vampire fangs notwithstanding. I also listen to Cesaria Evora, Nina Simone, and
Allan Sherman, none of which I consider disposable. I once knew an old lady who
said she was "noisy on the inside" when everyone commented how quiet she was. I
guess maybe some people are freaks on the inside
P Fucking S-did I mention I am 30 and teach high school math?
John Brain 01
Velvet Elvis) wrote:
>Tananda (tan...@mediaone.net) escribió:
>
>>Well, for me, it's kind of a cross between interests and lifestyle... I am
>>into goth, medieval reenactment, vampire roleplaying and folklore, SF, and
>>lots of computer crap. I guess what differentiates mere interests from true
>>freakishness in my book is taht I kind of live my life that way - at work, I
>>am almost never seen in any colors but black, white, shades of gray, and the
>>occasional splash of red.
>
>This doesn't mean you're a freak, this shows that you are BORING.
>
>Goths. *yawn*
>
>Black, black, and more black.
>
>That is sooooooooo original. Gee, you ought to be institutionalized before you
>change the world of fashion upside down with your boldness.
>
>>With all that said, I think "Freakness" is in the individual - everyone who
>>wears that "badge of honor" probably defines "freak" in a unique manner.
>>Most of all, I think its about being able to make up your own rules of who
>>you are and how you respond to this twisted world.
>
>You're a freak if you wear a giant bowling pin costume and do the Moonwalk.
Dear Velvet Elvis,
Sometimes a person is wrong.
Sometimes a person is VERY wrong.
Sometimes a person is very VERY wrong.
You Velvit Elvis, are Lord High Empress and High Preistess of the
wrong people.
Tananda is one of the few non affected freaks I have EVER had the good
fortune to meet.
She is an AMAZON in all ways (except for the surgery part.) .
She makes Lucy Lawless look like Barney Fife.
When wearing her leather gear, she carries a claymore and weilds it as
though it were a tooth pick.
When camping, whilst others see fit to wallow in canvas and nylon
sisterns, she rests languidly in her one bedroom castle that she
constructs out of wood, with power tools.
And talk about freaks, she has a REAL job, where she makes REAL money,
and would NEVER offer an unkind word to any passers by. Though in
your case, I think she should make an exception!
She is the quintessential deffinition of freak, for she grasps life
and sucks the marrow out of it, very much on her own terms!
Velvit Elvis, you are a freak because you hurll half wittisisms and
insults at undeserving targets like a chimp throwing lawn darts off
the empire state building.
Let me expalin that analogy to you. (Ill use small words) Your
narrow minded comtempt and your niave refusal to expand past your own
limmited deffinition of "goth" compells you to blindly insult people
who may include the word goth as part of describing themselves.
Its hurtfulll and petty and is a bennefit to no one.
Once again you ignore the majority of the text and fixate on one word.
Your future ruler
John Brain 01
The Velvet Elvis
>Hey Kidz, Im Baaaaaaaaak after a d-drive wipeout. Guess what
>V-elvis, Tananda Is one of my friends from the re-enactment society I
>belong to. And truuuuuuuust me, she gets weirder things in her
>breakfast cerial.... Ive seen her in more compromising positions
>than some one wearing a bowling pin costume. Ditch the anti goth
>sentiment will ya. Its old.
>And Tananda is one of the few folk Id call truly genuine.
Nice to see you back, Pris. ;-) In fact, I was thinking of you, and hoping
I'd draw you back out of the woodwork with my gawth antagonism. Of course, I
still stand by what I wrote....
Anyway, keep posting here.
The Velvet Elvis
I'm forced to disregard every insipid remark you offer, based on this alone-
>Your future ruler
>John Brain 01
Have a quaint and unoriginal life.
luuv, Velvit E.
The Velvet Elvis
>P Fucking S-did I mention I am 30 and teach high school math?
No, but now that you mention it, I'd like to point out that I always found math
to be extremely boring, too.
The Velvet Elvis
Usenet, and look what flames leap back toward me. I love to stir things up.
Some have accused me of carrying an "anti-goth sentiment" in my breast; this is
simply not true. As Emerson wrote, "All great men are misunderstood." I am
being misunderstood by all you "freaks". Now, aren't I a great man?
Just as all of you hyper-defensive goths are coming out of the blue (or black,
rather- out of the blue and into the black) to reproach me because you think I
insulted your friend, and so you want to 'set me straight' about how 'freaky'
and authentic your friend Tamanda is, the same is true for my cohorts that are
reading this thread. They realize how silly and wrong you are. Narrow-minded?
Ha! I wasn't attacking anyone in particular with my posts, or the person you
all apparently feel the need to protect and defend. Try to see things from
both sides, and your hypocrisy: I am not a simple bigot that you can easily
admonish for insulting you; there is a much more colorful and fuller picture
that you are missing, and my friends reading now realize this, as well as
taking into account my sense of humor and occasional abrasiveness. And yet,
you are guilty of countering my "half-wittisicisms" against Tamanda with the
very same kind of personal assumptions that you wrongfully accuse me of making
about her!
And so, now I have to explain my _real_ opinions on the subject. Truthfully, I
have nothing against "goths", per se. It's the shallow and superficial
Goth-prototype(tm) that gets my goat. There are many similar and equally empty
trends that are interchangeable for the Goth fad.
-"Alternative"; baggy jeans, sneakers, 'grunge' music, angst
-"Punk"; leather, loud clothes, metallic effects, dyed hair, Green Day and
Offspring
-"Gangsta"; Tupac, Tommy H., Snoop Dawgy, baggier clothes yet, weapons, Addias
-"Jock"; clean cut, buff, althetic jersey, dumb, homophobic, Nike
-"Hippie"; Phish/Dead fan, marijuana, tie-die, scruffy clothes, dead-locks
-"Yuppie/Sorority Girl"; Aberwhatever&Felch, CK, designer jeans, blond hair
-"Mod", black and chic hair, retro-clothes, indie-rock, tall boots
-a hundred others
And of course, let's not forget Goth-by-numbers:
-half black/brown hair, chains and spikes, all black clothes, some black lace
for flamboyance, 'spooky' stuff, Marilyn Manson, white makeup
I'm sure you'd agree that for you, the Goth lifestyle is much more than this.
But you are so defensive that anything which remotely slags the word 'goth'
sets you off. I think we'd agree that there are people who choose from one of
the above because they ache to fit into some group, and somewhere, but they
don't want to be creative and think for themselves. Their adherence to these
fashions is as short-lived and loose as a puff of smoke.
Then there are those who naturally gravitate towards authentic tastes and
preferences that others LABEL as being for "freaks", or what have you. Myself,
and many of my friends, would fit into a number of the above categories, if we
were to be categorized by ignorant people who don't know the slightest things
about us. That is exactly my point-- these disposable categories should be
discarded and eliminated. And definitely not passed off as the
"real thing". Unfortunately, people on both sides adhere to them. What I was
insulting and attacking was NOT necessarily your friend, but the whole generic
idea of Goth-- that which I see on the street being sported by clueless
teenagers, by the media, by the cosmetic industry, by MTV, and all of their
ilk. There is no point in trying to defend something as shallow as that.
If people just HAPPEN to drift towards what is seen as Goth tendencies, then so
be it. But when people try to find something artificial that suits them and
conform to it, I get uppity when they try to assert to ME how "different" and
"freaky" they are, when they are nothing more than unoriginal and boring. Case
in point- someone saying they are "Goth" just because they dress in black and
listen to crappy pseudo-EN music. Johnny Cash dressed all in black. So do
people at a funeral. It is a pet peeve of mine when people try to convince
themselves and others that they are somehow different by wearing nothing but
boring black, when in reality there is nothing that could make them even more
similar and the SAME. The truth is, people in general are self-deluded.
So you see, I wasn't trolling by any means. I was doing exactly what you all
claim as a right and almost an obligation of freakdom- having opinions that are
DIFFERENT. And if you can't at least understand the intended meanings of my
words, then at least learn to deal with them.
The Velvet Elvis
>>Velvit Elvis, you are a freak because you hurll half wittisisms and
>>insults at undeserving targets like a chimp throwing lawn darts off
>>the empire state building.
>
>Don't underestimate the power of VelvEt Elvis, bubba. Or her armies of
>loyal monkey-turd-throwing followers.
And don't forget dear, as the Royal Zookeeper, you are responsible for the
upkeep of said monkeys and their "ammunition".
Not a job that I would particularly want, but if it makes you happy...
The Velvet Elvis
>Also, it is not possible for me to get excited, in, you know, THAT way,
>because whenever I do my uvula expands to about the size of a plantain and
>blocks my throat, keeping me from breathing. When I was younger I had a
>breathing hole installed to keep me from choking. This was after they
>determined that they couldn't remove the uvula, or it would kill me.
>Anyway, now that I'm older I just take some medicine to keep the swelling
>from occuring.
Have you seen the movie "Freeway"? Man, I just love that movie. In it, Keifer
Sutherland has one of those horrid breathing-throat-holes, and this hideous
twisted smile frozen on his face. In this one scene, he's at a restaurant
smoking out of the hole in his throat, and he turns to the waitress with the
deformed part of his face and says, "Give me some soup. With a fucking straw,
please."
Anyway, growing up in Chicago, my best friend across the street had a
grandfather who had throat cancer or something like that, and he had one of
those operations, as well as this creepy electronic voice. I always thought it
was rather weird.
>Probably as a result of this, I also have an asphyxiation fetish. One of
>the most erotic things in the world for me is seeing a woman being
>strangled. Naturally, most people aren't very understanding about this
>kind of thing, and given that it's impossible for me to achieve any kind
>of gratification anyway, it's probably just as well.
Hey, do chicks with severe asthma turn you on?
Your Regular Mafioso
>Your Regular Mafioso (mela...@mindless.com) escribió:
>>
>>Spinning on its wheel, the hamster in LykeMike's head shouted:
>>
>>> What do you consider a "freak" to be? according to what I've seen in this
>>>particular newsgroup, everyone else out there has a totally different meaning
>>>for this word than I do. Is anybody out there a freak? tell me why & how
>>>you're freaky.
>>
>>I breathe.
>
>No, you're a freak if you want to be "like Mike".
No, I mean, I breathe. It's a simple statement that I thought
everyone would be glad to hear.
>They should just leave us decent fraeks alone.
Eh. Who called obsessing on corn being decent?
Your Regular Mafioso
>You're a freak if you wear a giant bowling pin costume and do the Moonwalk.
But not if you bowl with midgets.
Pris Batty
wrote:
>If I am a freak for any reason, it's because, despite being an Internet
>junkie, I am utterly uninterested in roleplaying, science fiction, goths,
>libertarianism, polyamory, medieval culture, MENSA, paganism, anime, or
>really much of anything outside the rarefied realms of breakfast cereal,
>dental hygiene, elevator inspection techniques, libraries, mixed drink
>recipes, personality assessment through the analysis of expectoration
>patterns, chunky white legs, Andrall Pearson, children's books featuring
>Japanese monkeys, and Muppert X.
yep, you are a freak. sound like a subgenious to me.
Pris Batty
wrote:
>Yeah yeah yeah, but can she YODEL?
actually, the bedouin trill is muuuuuch more difficult to achieve.
Ive heard her do that across the fire pits.
Pris
bastet
John Brain 01 wrote:
> On 15 May 1999 03:15:39 GMT, christlik...@mailexcite.com (The
> Velvet Elvis) wrote:
>
> >
> >This doesn't mean you're a freak, this shows that you are BORING.
> >
> >Goths. *yawn*
> >
> >Black, black, and more black.
> >
> >That is sooooooooo original. Gee, you ought to be institutionalized before you
> >change the world of fashion upside down with your boldness.
> >
> >>With all that said, I think "Freakness" is in the individual - everyone who
> >>wears that "badge of honor" probably defines "freak" in a unique manner.
> >>Most of all, I think its about being able to make up your own rules of who
> >>you are and how you respond to this twisted world.
> >
> >You're a freak if you wear a giant bowling pin costume and do the Moonwalk.
>
> Dear Velvet Elvis,
>
> Sometimes a person is wrong.
> Sometimes a person is VERY wrong.
> Sometimes a person is very VERY wrong.
> You Velvit Elvis, are Lord High Empress and High Preistess of the
> wrong people.
> Tananda is one of the few non affected freaks I have EVER had the good
> fortune to meet.
> She is an AMAZON in all ways (except for the surgery part.) .
> She makes Lucy Lawless look like Barney Fife.
>
> When wearing her leather gear, she carries a claymore and weilds it as
> though it were a tooth pick.
>
> When camping, whilst others see fit to wallow in canvas and nylon
> sisterns, she rests languidly in her one bedroom castle that she
> constructs out of wood, with power tools.
>
> And talk about freaks, she has a REAL job, where she makes REAL money,
> and would NEVER offer an unkind word to any passers by. Though in
> your case, I think she should make an exception!
>
> She is the quintessential deffinition of freak, for she grasps life
> and sucks the marrow out of it, very much on her own terms!
>
> Velvit Elvis, you are a freak because you hurll half wittisisms and
> insults at undeserving targets like a chimp throwing lawn darts off
> the empire state building.
>
> Let me expalin that analogy to you. (Ill use small words) Your
> narrow minded comtempt and your niave refusal to expand past your own
> limmited deffinition of "goth" compells you to blindly insult people
> who may include the word goth as part of describing themselves.
>
> Its hurtfulll and petty and is a bennefit to no one.
>
> Once again you ignore the majority of the text and fixate on one word.
>
> Your future ruler
> John Brain 01
Dear John
Thank you. Being new to newsgroups( since Thursday) I had just about decided that
every newsgroup was full of nasty, mean-minded jackasses who weren't worth listening
to. I get quite enough abuse every day in the classroom and the staffroom and have
no desire to put up with this sort of shit (A)after working hours and (B)without
being paid. Apparently Velvet Elvis is as tacky and stupid as his name.
Pris Batty
Velvet Elvis) wrote:
>Nice to see you back, Pris. ;-) In fact, I was thinking of you, and hoping
>I'd draw you back out of the woodwork with my gawth antagonism. Of course, I
>still stand by what I wrote....
>
>Anyway, keep posting here.
PS: again ATTENTION TO DETAIL, my D-drive crashed headlong into my
psyche and you had my e-mail so there! Im back cos I got a new news
reader, some free time, and saw a friends name. Thpbtttt!!!!
Im not gonna argue the goth thing again, but I will stand fast by my
sister in arms.
As for 'John Brain', you chose the quote of his cartoon character
counterpart to de-qualify his letter. BRILLIANT WATSON !!!
Must go now, the cats eagerly awaits a game of laser mouse...
Pris
atr...@shoggoth.uoregon.edu
> What is "tole-painting"? It sounds like an activity I might enjoy.
Tole painting is a sort of folky art-y painting style. Sort of a
Scandinavian thing, you know, with bright colors and stylized flowers
and distilfinks. Those big folk art abstract birds, you know. It looks
really cool.
Anyway, over time it has degenerated to mean "painting those goddamn
Mary Englbrhdht people and sunflowers and cows and angels and
pseudo-folk images on every surface that doesn't move, while waiting for
your doctor husband to come home from work and dose the kids with more
Ritalin so they don't touch your Beanie Babies." But at one point it
was actual neat folk art.
We have a bunch of little tole painted things at home from various
long-dead great-aunts (Intersting Trivia: 4 out of 5 old, dead
Scandinavian ladies are named Anna) and once I embroidered a denim shirt
with little tole doodads and distilfinks (I really like satin stitch,
and all the big blocky shapes were perfect for it).
It might also be a Penn. Dutch thing. There are two ways you can go
with tole painting: blocky, geometric shapes, or stuff that intertwines
other stuff and winds around. Both are cool.
Angels and cows and anything that a craft magazine tells you how to
paint step by step so that it looks "cute" and "folk art" painted on
stuff SUCKS. The current concept of "craft" as "something sugar-sweet
that looks handmade but there are a thousand EXACTLY like it made by
other zombies who get Nutshell News and can't change ONE step to make it
unique" is EVIL.
I hate women.
Annna
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Alica
david lynch wrote:
> I look like all of the above. What does that say for me?
>
You're a freak. Plain and simple. I fit into almost every category up there...I
think a freak is someone who can be his/her own person and not have to fit into some
group. We all gravitate towards others like ourselves (unless we are trying to "fit
in" somewhere else). When I was in high school I didn't have a group until my senior
year, and those were the people that I held my after school job with. We all had
that one thing in common. So for the goths or the preps or whatever, that one little
thing holds them together. There were other factors that kept my friends and I
together, we discovered we had many of the same likes/dislikes. But a lot of the
time, you take one of those people out of their group...and they have no idea where
they are or what they are doing. It's crazy really...I've seen it so many times (at
least at frat parties...like fish out of water....errr...out of the keg or
something).Anyways, to me that's what a freak is. Someone who can be a part of
almost any preformed group, but, still manage to retain his/her own values. A freak
isn't necessarily a bad thing. Actually, to me, being called a freak is a
compliment. My friend Nicole calls me a freak all the time, and I always say thank
you. It's *sniffle* such an honor.
>
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Jahweh W
>david lynch wrote:
>> What is "tole-painting"? It sounds like an activity I might enjoy.
>
>Tole painting is a sort of folky art-y painting style. Sort of a
>Scandinavian thing, you know, with bright colors and stylized flowers
>and distilfinks. Those big folk art abstract birds, you know. It looks
>really cool.
Oh. I thought it was kind of a craft-type thing. I don't know, painting
twirly tassels all kinds of different colors, or something. I don't really
have any skill at painting distilfinks, or even spelling it. I guess you
might be talking about the big-ass mural over by the back entrance to the
local Kroger, though, which has really huge leaves and animals and stuff in a
style that I'd call "socialist realism" if the term wasn't already taken.
>Anyway, over time it has degenerated to mean "painting those goddamn
>Mary Englbrhdht people and sunflowers and cows and angels and
>pseudo-folk images on every surface that doesn't move, while waiting for
>your doctor husband to come home from work and dose the kids with more
>Ritalin so they don't touch your Beanie Babies." But at one point it
>was actual neat folk art.
That's the other thing. Why only paint on surfaces that don't move?
>Angels and cows and anything that a craft magazine tells you how to
>paint step by step so that it looks "cute" and "folk art" painted on
>stuff SUCKS. The current concept of "craft" as "something sugar-sweet
>that looks handmade but there are a thousand EXACTLY like it made by
>other zombies who get Nutshell News and can't change ONE step to make it
>unique" is EVIL.
>
>I hate women.
I hate those types of people who go in for the angels and all that stuff.
That really kind of disturbs me. If I had to choose between a faithful viewer
of the PAX network and some kind of weirdo Sandman-loving goth chyk, well, I'd
probably stay home in my room and brood, but I guess that's the kind of guy I
am.
--
"When you were establishing your personal relationship with God didn't He
tell you that CLUELESS PEOPLE MAKE BABY JESUS CRY?"- Steve Sullivan
Jahweh W
>On 15 May 1999 18:08:09 GMT, david lynch <dfly...@louisville.edu>
>wrote:
>
>>If I am a freak for any reason, it's because, despite being an Internet
>>junkie, I am utterly uninterested in roleplaying, science fiction, goths,
>>libertarianism, polyamory, medieval culture, MENSA, paganism, anime, or
>>really much of anything outside the rarefied realms of breakfast cereal,
>>dental hygiene, elevator inspection techniques, libraries, mixed drink
>>recipes, personality assessment through the analysis of expectoration
>>patterns, chunky white legs, Andrall Pearson, children's books featuring
>>Japanese monkeys, and Muppert X.
>
>yep, you are a freak. sound like a subgenious to me.
I used to be, but I schismed. Which I guess in some way means I still am.
Whatever.
Jahweh W
>Dear John
>Thank you. Being new to newsgroups( since Thursday) I had just about decided that
>every newsgroup was full of nasty, mean-minded jackasses who weren't worth listening
>to.
Actually, you're pretty much right there. This is a very good attitude to
have as concerns Usenet.
> I get quite enough abuse every day in the classroom and the staffroom and have
>no desire to put up with this sort of shit (A)after working hours and (B)without
>being paid. Apparently Velvet Elvis is as tacky and stupid as his name.
I think we all could use a little stress relief exercise. OK? Great. Now,
everybody, hold hands and think of your favorite member of the "A-Team"?
Are we feeling a little less obstreperous now?
Jahweh W
>bastet (bas...@fundy.net) escribió:
>
>>P Fucking S-did I mention I am 30 and teach high school math?
>
>No, but now that you mention it, I'd like to point out that I always found math
>to be extremely boring, too.
I had a crush on one of my math teachers once.
Jahweh W
>Hey, do chicks with severe asthma turn you on?
I don't know. Can they play the guitar?
The Velvet Elvis
>>Anyway, keep posting here.
>
>PS: again ATTENTION TO DETAIL, my D-drive crashed headlong into my
>psyche and you had my e-mail so there! Im back cos I got a new news
>reader, some free time, and saw a friends name. Thpbtttt!!!!
I read what you wrote about your computer crashing. I haven't had time to read
my email lately, let alone send it. In fact, these past two weeks I haven't
had time to eat or sleep much either.
>As for 'John Brain', you chose the quote of his cartoon character
>counterpart to de-qualify his letter. BRILLIANT WATSON !!!
Um, no.
The Velvet Elvis
>Dear John
>Thank you. Being new to newsgroups( since Thursday) I had just about decided
that
>every newsgroup was full of nasty, mean-minded jackasses who weren't worth
listening
>to.
Here's an idea. Then don't fucking "listen" to me.
>I get quite enough abuse every day in the classroom and the staffroom and have
>no desire to put up with this sort of shit (A)after working hours and
(B)without
>being paid.
Awww....pobrecito. Just consider this 'extra credit'.
>Apparently Velvet Elvis is as tacky and stupid as his name.
I'm glad we have you here to be the Emperor of Taste for all people. Not to
mention a capable judge of intelligence.
Learn how to edit. And feel free to continue failing our nation's youth with
your incompetance.
'born to be adored by women',
The Velvet Elvis
The Velvet Elvis
>> Hey, do chicks with severe asthma turn you on?
>
>Oh god yes....those inhalers.....*Boioioioioioioinnnnggg....*
Wow, then I guess I would be the woman of your dreams. I've had chronic asthma
since I was four years old.
The Velvet Elvis
>
>Thus spake The Velvet Elvis:
>
>
Why wouldn't they be able to (given that they aren't allergic to the strings)?
The Velvet Elvis
>> simply not true. As Emerson wrote, "All great men are misunderstood."
>
>Keith Emerson never wrote that.
But Raul Walter Emerson did. Heh.
>> Just as all of you hyper-defensive goths are coming out of the blue (or
black,
>
>As a proud black man, I'm insulted by your insinuation that my race is
>something I need to "come out of".
Well do you think I was dissin' Smurfs as well? Take it up with my lawyer.
>> -"Alternative"; baggy jeans, sneakers, 'grunge' music, angst
>> -"Punk"; leather, loud clothes, metallic effects, dyed hair, Green Day and
>> Offspring
>> -"Gangsta"; Tupac, Tommy H., Snoop Dawgy, baggier clothes yet, weapons,
Addias
>> -"Jock"; clean cut, buff, althetic jersey, dumb, homophobic, Nike
>> -"Hippie"; Phish/Dead fan, marijuana, tie-die, scruffy clothes, dead-locks
>> -"Yuppie/Sorority Girl"; Aberwhatever&Felch, CK, designer jeans, blond hair
>> -"Mod", black and chic hair, retro-clothes, indie-rock, tall boots
>> -a hundred others
>> And of course, let's not forget Goth-by-numbers:
>> -half black/brown hair, chains and spikes, all black clothes, some black
lace
>> for flamboyance, 'spooky' stuff, Marilyn Manson, white makeup
>
>I look like all of the above. What does that say for me?
That you ARE the essence of PLAID. Congradulations, Dave.
Jim Vandewalker
atr...@shoggoth.uoregon.edu wrote:
{
{ Tole painting is a sort of folky art-y painting style. Sort of a
{ Scandinavian thing, you know, with bright colors and stylized flowers
{ and distilfinks. Those big folk art abstract birds, you know. It looks
{ really cool.
{
{ It might also be a Penn. Dutch thing.
Distilfinks ARE Pennsylvania Dutch. Part of an elaborate iconography of hex
signs to keep malign influences out of barns. The Little People who dry up
cows and sour milk.
--
Jim "The Dead Guy" van de Walker
(Who is not Pennsylvania Dutch, because he is of Nederlandish extraction,
and the "Dutch" in Pennsylvania Dutch is really "Deutsch" and means
"German". My ancestors were all indentured servants in New Holland (later
New York).
Jahweh W
>Jahweh W (gay...@catholic.org) escribió:
>>
>>Thus spake The Velvet Elvis:
>>
>>>Hey, do chicks with severe asthma turn you on?
>>
>>I don't know. Can they play the guitar?
>
>Why wouldn't they be able to (given that they aren't allergic to the strings)?
You got me. I was just asking, is all.
Jahweh W
>In article <373DEE...@gladstone.uoregon.edu>,
>atr...@shoggoth.uoregon.edu wrote:
>{
>{ Tole painting is a sort of folky art-y painting style. Sort of a
>{ Scandinavian thing, you know, with bright colors and stylized flowers
>{ and distilfinks. Those big folk art abstract birds, you know. It looks
>{ really cool.
><snip>
>{
>{ It might also be a Penn. Dutch thing.
>
>
>Distilfinks ARE Pennsylvania Dutch. Part of an elaborate iconography of hex
>signs to keep malign influences out of barns. The Little People who dry up
>cows and sour milk.
What's wrong with drying up sour milk?
Jahweh W
>In article <37403480...@news.newsguy.com>, gay...@catholic.org
>(Jahweh W) wrote:
>
>> I think we all could use a little stress relief exercise. OK? Great. Now,
>> everybody, hold hands and think of your favorite member of the "A-Team"?
>
>Mr. T!! Mr. T!!
Fuck that, man. Murdock was THE SHIT.
Jahweh W
>When I got here all it was was a random flamepit.
>Some dick comes in, bitches about some social minorty, is never heard from
>again, while lots of other people who are never heard from again respond
>to his flame with intelligent remarks like "d00de" or "fuk u u thnk ur so
>kuul".
Well, then, we have something to transcend, don't we?
>...and then youse pink floyd people showed up...
I believe the proper term is "Pink Floyd Porno Weirdos".
>> > Your future ruler
>>
>> Not unless you come up with a better solution to traffic gridlock, you
>> aren't.
>
>I got it!!!!
>When there's a jam, blow the shit out of them.
A, uh.... blue one?
Jahweh W
>david lynch (dfly...@louisville.edu) escribió:
>
>>> simply not true. As Emerson wrote, "All great men are misunderstood."
>>
>>Keith Emerson never wrote that.
>
>But Raul Walter Emerson did. Heh.
I thought his name was "Wendy" since he had the sex change operation.
>>> Just as all of you hyper-defensive goths are coming out of the blue (or
>black,
>>
>>As a proud black man, I'm insulted by your insinuation that my race is
>>something I need to "come out of".
>
>Well do you think I was dissin' Smurfs as well? Take it up with my lawyer.
Why? Is she a smurf?
>That you ARE the essence of PLAID. Congradulations, Dave.
Is that marketable?
Jahweh W
>I wear lots of plaid flannel.
>What am I?
Is this a riddle?
Uh, I guess "Yesterday's Newspaper". Do I win?
Q the Counter-antipope
>
> What do you consider a "freak" to be? according to what I've seen in this
>particular newsgroup, everyone else out there has a totally different meaning
>for this word than I do. Is anybody out there a freak? tell me why & how
>you're freaky.
I once ate so many carrots in a short period of time that I began to
turn orange.
\ /
-Q-
|
Q the Counter-antipope
gay...@catholic.org (Jahweh W) says:
>
>What's wrong with drying up sour milk?
>
Nothing, as long as you don't cry when you spill it.
And that's harder than it sounds.
\ /
-Q-
|
Q the Counter-antipope
>>
>>>P Fucking S-did I mention I am 30 and teach high school math?
>>
>>No, but now that you mention it, I'd like to point out that I always
>>found math to be extremely boring, too.
Fine. Insult the one thing I can do with any proficiency. I'll have
you know that Semenov-Tian-Shansky's theorem never fails to get me
on the edge of my seat!
>
>I had a crush on one of my math teachers once.
>
Thinking back, there was only one math teacher I had in school
that would've been a candidate for a crush. But it never happened.
Who can say why?
\ /
-Q-
|
Your Regular Mafioso
>Are we feeling a little less obstreperous now?
I think we're all in a great need of an obstretician on this
newsgroup.
--
Non-Jerome: Lame.
Your Regular Mafioso
The Jérôme Chronicles: http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.riopel/jerome/chronicles/
Your Regular Mafioso
>I had a crush on one of my math teachers once.
I only had one woman as a math teacher, and her last name was
Hendricks. Close enough, I guess.
Your Regular Mafioso
shouted:
>I once ate so many carrots in a short period of time that I began to
>turn orange.
My uncles once dared me to eat my height in corn. I did. 14. I
didn't see much of the following day.
Mumthra
wrote:
:LykeMike <lyke...@aol.com> wrote:
:> What do you consider a "freak" to be? according to what I've seen in this
:> particular newsgroup, everyone else out there has a totally different meaning
:> for this word than I do. Is anybody out there a freak? tell me why & how
:> you're freaky.
:
:Actually, I'll fess up. I'm not a freak at all. I just post to this
:newsgroup because Kevan said it was OK. Sorry if I've disappointed
:anyone.
Me neither. Not freak here. Nope. I am SO MUCH not a freak that my
definition of "freak" is "anyone who is not me."
Jahweh W
>Spinning on its wheel, the hamster in Jahweh W's head shouted:
>
>>Are we feeling a little less obstreperous now?
>
>I think we're all in a great need of an obstretician on this
>newsgroup.
Give birth to a smile, Jerome.
Pris Batty
Velvet Elvis) wrote:
>Here's an idea. Then don't fucking "listen" to me.
You cant assume that all men/women have the same ego of stone as you
might poses.
I believe in the concept, "do unto others..." and the rule of thrice
the Karma.
>Learn how to edit. And feel free to continue failing our nation's youth with
>your incompetance.
Take this for example, its WAAAAAAAY out of line. Just mean.
Teaching is one of the few 'noble' professions left. NOBODY goes into
teaching for the money. Anyone who continues to TRY to teach is a
saint in my book. Even if they arent "perfect".
You just LOVE to argue don't you?!?
Pris
Pris Batty
response on this topic. Nor to my sociological observances of this
topic or others. Hrmmmmm, well, what does that say about this
group... Not much good. Maybe other groups are more worth vested
efforts. Shame people don't try to expand themselves much in this
world. I hate people. What a disappointing race on a whole.)
Pris
The Velvet Elvis
>>And don't forget dear, as the Royal Zookeeper, you are responsible for the
>>upkeep of said monkeys and their "ammunition".
>>
>>Not a job that I would particularly want, but if it makes you happy...
>>
>Ick. I don't do monkeys.
Even if they had purple wings and were wearing a fez?
The Velvet Elvis
>>Are we feeling a little less obstreperous now?
>
>I think we're all in a great need of an obstretician on this
>newsgroup.
I gave birth to desire. The labor pains were tremendous.
The Velvet Elvis
>
>On 16 May 1999 04:34:47 GMT, christlik...@mailexcite.com (The
>Velvet Elvis) wrote:
>
>>Here's an idea. Then don't fucking "listen" to me.
>You cant assume that all men/women have the same ego of stone as you
>might poses.
>I believe in the concept, "do unto others..." and the rule of thrice
>the Karma.
Speaking of Karma and "do unto others"...that is exaclty what I did:
>>Learn how to edit. And feel free to continue failing our nation's youth with
>>your incompetance.
>Take this for example, its WAAAAAAAY out of line. Just mean.
Okay. And what about (to quote your friend)-
>nasty, mean-minded jackasses who weren't worth listening to.
>Apparently Velvet Elvis is as tacky and stupid as his name.
Does that seem "appropriate" or "nice" to you? But I suppose you'd like to
ignore that.
My remark was to prove a point. Personal insults to be followed by personal
insults, which is exactly what you just said to me.
Anyhow, not any longer, because I don't care; it's not important.
>Teaching is one of the few 'noble' professions left. NOBODY goes into
>teaching for the money. Anyone who continues to TRY to teach is a
>saint in my book. Even if they arent "perfect".
Teaching is besides the point. I have nothing against good teachers.
>You just LOVE to argue don't you?!?
Not particularly. However, I do think many people take themselves to
seriously, especially on the net.
Me, I'm getting sucked into that parallel universe again. Language is all
starting to sound the same to me. I can't tell the difference between Chinese
and Italian and English lately. It's all blending into some weird kind of
meaningless frequency. This began to happen at work, of course, where all weird
things begin and end.
The Velvet Elvis
I see I'm not the only one who goes through a major misanthropic phase in the
middle of May.
Your Regular Mafioso
>Thus spake Your Regular Mafioso:
>
>>Spinning on its wheel, the hamster in Jahweh W's head shouted:
>>
>>>Are we feeling a little less obstreperous now?
>>
>>I think we're all in a great need of an obstretician on this
>>newsgroup.
>
>Give birth to a smile, Jerome.
But it'll make my face GROW OLD!
BlueFaille
freak, The Velvet Elvis wrote:
>Oh, I see...dress in uninspired, bland clothing, listen to "alternative" (yet
>
>highly disposable) music like NIN and Korn, get the usual piercings and
>tattoos
>JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, and then...and then...you can be DIFFERENT.
I blame Mark Rein-Hagen for this whole goth thing. He just couldn't bear to
leave those geeks playing D&D in the band room alone... Oh, no! He had
something better, and it would make him King of All Geeks.
I knew back in high school he was up to no good.
Faille
Jahweh W
>(mental note to self... nobody posted a reply to my researched
>response on this topic. Nor to my sociological observances of this
>topic or others. Hrmmmmm, well, what does that say about this
>group... Not much good. Maybe other groups are more worth vested
>efforts. Shame people don't try to expand themselves much in this
>world. I hate people. What a disappointing race on a whole.)
I honestly don't remember it. Probably it was too erudite for me, or
something.
April
On Sat, 15 May 1999, Your Regular Mafioso wrote:
>But not if you bowl with midgets.
What if you bowl between your legs, backwards? I scored more
than 160 doing it that way.
April
On Mon, 17 May 1999, Captain Busternaut wrote:
>That's because sociology sucks.
No, that's because long posts suck. Quite honestly, I would NEVER
attempt to do a sociological study of alt.freaks. It's too diverse
-- no one falls into any easily-defined stereotypes.
Your Regular Mafioso
Don't worry. When I score, it's usually between my legs too.
kevbob
news:7hkd69$a0o$3...@hermes.louisville.edu...
> If I am a freak for any reason, it's because, despite being an
Internet
> junkie, I am utterly uninterested in
<snip>
> mixed drink recipes,
dave,
yer idea of a mixed drink recipe is to mix whiskey and vodka in a hollow
plastic heart.
THAT is what makes you a freak,
spoonhat notwithstanding.
Your Regular Mafioso
shouted:
>Read that last line.....THAT's why sociology sucks.
>An entire science based on generalizing people...pheh!
Well, most people can be thrown in one or another category. Cultures
and subcultures usually imply that there are a number of people with
common features.
And some sociologists rawk. Like my girlfriend's father. He's one
bad-ass sociologist, you know.
April
Jerome wrote:
>Don't worry. When I score, it's usually between my legs too.
I guess I left myself wide open for that.
;)
April
>Well, most people can be thrown in one or another category. Cultures
>and subcultures usually imply that there are a number of people with
>common features.
Right, exactly. You put it much better than I did.
>And some sociologists rawk. Like my girlfriend's father. He's one
>bad-ass sociologist, you know.
Yeah, and *me*. I'm a sociologist and I rawk. I should meet more
bad-ass sociologists, though. There aren't nearly enough of them.
--
My uncles once dared me to eat my height in corn. I did. 14. I
didn't see much of the following day. -- Jerome
April
>Read that last line.....THAT's why sociology sucks.
>An entire science based on generalizing people...pheh!
Well, we couldn't generalize if people were, by nature, such sheep.
April
>Well, we couldn't generalize if people were, by nature, such sheep.
You know... that should be "weren't".
D'oh.
April
On 16 May 1999, Q the Counter-antipope wrote:
>Thinking back, there was only one math teacher I had in school
>that would've been a candidate for a crush. But it never happened.
>Who can say why?
She could not be swayed from her Newtonian view of the world?
(Yeah, I realize this is REALLY old. I'm cleaning out my "postponed
messages" folder.)
April
Captain Busternaut wrote:
>>Read that last line.....THAT's why sociology sucks.
>>An entire science based on generalizing people...pheh!
Jerome wrote:
>Well, most people can be thrown in one or another category. Cultures
>and subcultures usually imply that there are a number of people with
>common features.
I love you, Jerome. You sure you won't marry me? I mean, I have
lots of books!
(I'm a "rawkin'" sociologist, too, Cap'n. Just ask me.)
Q the Counter-antipope
>
>
>On 16 May 1999, Q the Counter-antipope wrote:
>>Thinking back, there was only one math teacher I had in school
>>that would've been a candidate for a crush. But it never happened.
>>Who can say why?
>
>
>
>She could not be swayed from her Newtonian view of the world?
>
I never even got that far :)
>
>
>(Yeah, I realize this is REALLY old. I'm cleaning out my "postponed
>messages" folder.)
Sokay. I like the idea of ressurecting ancient threads. Gives the group
a better sense of its own history.
\ /
-Q-
|
April
>Does someone here know why black people seem to have stronger genes
>than white people?
No, but I remember it being used as evidence that Adam and Eve
_couldn't_ have been white. This has important implications as
to the "color" of god (given he made them in his own image) as well
as for evolution.
See, here's the thing. You can take a black man and a black woman
and breed them together for years and years and years and you'll
end with some of them being fair-skinned whites. BUT... you
can't breed two white people together for the same length of time
and get a black person.
So, hypothetically, if you believe that we all stemmed from Adam
and Eve, they had to be black to account for the variety of
ethnicities found on the planet.
If you don't believe in Adam and Eve, though, then you can pretty
much attribute all ethnic differences to climate differences and
other environmental factors.
If I remembered anything about genes, I could've answered your
question better, I think.
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