New to painter (5.5 web edition) need help with watercolors
*syd and her chibis*
goodness knows, i sure need it.
I want to use watercolors to color either scanned sketches or doodles done
in painter itself. (i do have 6.0/6.03 but cant get it to work because of
glitches and what not)
I followed a tutorial and painted (watercolors-simple water) the background
first. Then I dried the canvas and when to paint the skin tones and all it
did was blend with the bg. I kept trying to dry the canvas, and nothing
worked.
Ive been asking for help but not getting anything that can really help me. I
would be /so/ appreciative for any help i can get.
Thank you so much for your time.
Sincerely,
*sydney*
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http://www.mangamaniac.com/sydney
my mailing list--if you dare ^^; :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sydart
delias and my combo site ^_~
http://www.mangamaniac.com
KSperling
Not sure what you mean.
When you paint with watercolors in Painter 5, then choose Canvas: Dry, then
paint again, you should find that the colors don't in fact blend, but that the
new colors paint like a glaze over the dried ones.
Maybe you could be more specific about what you mean when you say the colors
blended with the background after you dried the canvas.
Also, did you try this just once? Sometimes Painter gets jumbled and if you've
been working in it for awhile during a session, sometimes quitting and
relaunching helps it to work better.
Karen Sperling
Editor/Publisher
Artistry Painter Tutorials
http://www.artistrymag.com
*syd and her chibis*
"KSperling" <kspe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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thank you so much for replying! Ive been pulling my hair out ^^;
And ive been using the canvas-->dry option but it never works.
Let me see if i can find a good way to explain (im so sorry my thoughts are
jumbled) I have a doodle that I did in painter. Then with the watercolors,
simple water, i painted a dark purple-ish background. Once I was done, I
went to canvas-->dry and then went to paint a skin color over the dried
background. Instead of showing up as a more solid skin tone, it looked as
if it was just blending with the background color (so it came out this odd
color, instead of the skin color over the background) Ive tried saving it
as a .Rif and closing it and coming back to it, nothing works. Although,
one time, it worked, and i dont know what I did differently, but when i
saved it, it went back to what it was doing before. I have wanted to use
this program for so long and I just cant figure what Im doing wrong.
I hope that made sense ^^;
Thank you so much for responding :)
Jinny Brown
It might be a good idea to install the 6.1 patch to iron out some of the
glitches. Below my response to your question, I'll paste some
instructions you'll need to follow carefully. You can download the patch
at: ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/Painter/6.1.
About your painting problem: It's going to be hard to say what's causing
it without knowing what brush variants you're using after drying the
Canvas. If you had to keep drying the Canvas, it's likely that you were
still using a Water Color variant. Otherwise, there would be no reason
for the Canvas to be wet. If the Canvas is dry, the moment you touch the
Canvas with a Water Color brush variant, it's wet again (or, to be more
precise, there's an invisible Wet Layer created).
If you can give us more details, maybe we can help.
Here are the instructions for adding the 6.1 patch:
To Uninstall Painter 6, reinstall Painter 6 and the 6.1 patch, and
create a backup copy of the Painter 6 default files:
1. Move any files you created to a folder outside of the main Painter
folders.
2. Uninstall Painter 6.
3. Manually delete any remaining Painter 6 installed folders and files.
4. Reboot.
5. Install Painter 6, then immediately install the Painter 6.1 patch.
6. Reboot.
7. Before launching Painter even one time, create a new folder outside
of the Painter 6 folders and name it something like "Painter 6 Default
Files Backup".
8. Go to the main Painter 6 folder and copy all of the default Painter 6
files.
9. Go to the "Painter 6 Default Files Backup" folder and paste the
copied default Painter 6 files into it.
Now you have a backup set of Painter 6 default files so when one of them
becomes corrupted, which happens on occasion, **with Painter closed** go
to the "Painter 6 Default Files Backup" folder, make a copy of the
appropriate file, then go to the main Painter 6 folder and paste the
copied file into it. This will save your having to Uninstall and
reinstall Painter 6 and the 6.1 patch again if a file becomes
corrupted... and save frustration, too!
Have fun, and please come visit us at In Depth Discussions in the
Painter Forum. You'll find a lot of good company there and lots of help
and inspiration.. along with our images posted in the message threads.
Lots of sharing and learning going on there! The URL is below my
signature. :o)
Jinny Brown
PixelAlley's Section Links:
http://www.pixelalley.com/pixelalley-sections-pages.html
(Painter 5 and 6 tutorials, Painter 7 info, tutorials, PDF downloads,
brushes)
Contact: jinb...@pixelalley.com or,
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Jinny Brown
It sounds like you are either painting the skin tones with a Water Color
brush, or you're using one of the brush variants that has the Method set
to Buildup. The Crayons' Variants would be an example. Look in the
Brushes palette, under Method to see what it says. Then either choose a
Brush Variant that is not set to Buildup Method or change the Method to
Cover and try again.
Good luck,
Jinny Brown
PixelAlley's Section Links:
http://www.pixelalley.com/pixelalley-sections-pages.html
(Painter 5 and 6 tutorials, Painter 7 info, tutorials, PDF downloads,
brushes)
Contact: jinb...@pixelalley.com or,
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*syd and her chibis* wrote:
>
KSperling
I did what you described and see what you mean.
That's a feature, not a bug.
I drew a quick face with black with the Pens' Scratchboard Tool.
Then with the watercolors simple water I painted the face and the area around
it with the darkish purple.
Then I chose Canvas: Dry.
Then I painted "skin color"-I'm assuming you mean a beige (there are many skin
colors of course <g>).
The beige doesn't hide the purple, it merely glazes over it. It does appear to
blend with it.
The nature of the watercolors is to gently darken colors as you canvas: dry
them. If you painted with the same purple color after you dry, you'd find you
get a deeper purple tone, without changing the color in the Colors palette.
It's a way to paint wet on dry, so to speak.
The solution: If you are trying to get the beige color to hide the purple, use
a different brush, like the Artist Pastel Chalk in the Chalk brush category
(it's in Dry Media in later versions of painter, we're talking painter 5 here,
for others reading this). To get a smoother, watercolory look from the Artist
Pastel Chalk, smoosh it around with the water category's Just Add Water
(Liquid's category in later versions).
Hope this helps.
Karen Sperling
<<"KSperling" <kspe...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20011031015355...@mb-mm.aol.com...
> Hi Sydney,
> Not sure what you mean.
> When you paint with watercolors in Painter 5, then choose Canvas: Dry,
then
> paint again, you should find that the colors don't in fact blend, but that
the
> new colors paint like a glaze over the dried ones.
> Maybe you could be more specific about what you mean when you say the
colors
> blended with the background after you dried the canvas.
> Also, did you try this just once? Sometimes Painter gets jumbled and if
you've
> been working in it for awhile during a session, sometimes quitting and
> relaunching helps it to work better.
> Karen Sperling
> Editor/Publisher
> Artistry Painter Tutorials
> <A HREF="http://www.artistrymag.com">http://www.artistrymag.com</A>
*syd and her chibis*
news:3BDFEE91...@mindspring.com...
> sydney,
>
> It sounds like you are either painting the skin tones with a Water Color
> brush, or you're using one of the brush variants that has the Method set
> to Buildup. The Crayons' Variants would be an example. Look in the
> Brushes palette, under Method to see what it says. Then either choose a
> Brush Variant that is not set to Buildup Method or change the Method to
> Cover and try again.
>
> Good luck,
>
>
> Jinny Brown
>
> PixelAlley's Section Links:
> http://www.pixelalley.com/pixelalley-sections-pages.html
> (Painter 5 and 6 tutorials, Painter 7 info, tutorials, PDF downloads,
> brushes)
> Contact: jinb...@pixelalley.com or,
> Painter Forum at In Depth Discussions:
> http://www.critical-depth.com/cgi-bin/idd/
Thank you so much for your help :) I had it on the okay settings, Im
guessing I just thought from someones tutorial that I could do something
that this proggie may not do ^^:
I would like to ask one more question if i havent bothered you enough yet
^_~
Is there a way to doodle something in painter, make it a transparent floater
and then color underneath it? I guess im just desperate for the painter
look in my cg works. What confuses me is that it seems that everyone else
that uses painter is able to get the effect and i feel like im the only one
that cant ^^; I know thats silly to say but im loosing hope ^^;
Anywah, thank you so much :)
*syd and her chibis*
Thank you for those hints! Ive tried them and will definatley play around
with them :) I for some reason, still cant get it to work right....and of
course, my luck, the mini tutorial that was up, is down now, so I have no
reference @_@
I really appreciate all the help....i definately need it ^^;
KSperling
Karen
<<Subject: Re: New to painter (5.5 web edition) need help with watercolors
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Date: Wed, Oct 31, 2001 1:35 PM
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*syd and her chibis*
take it all in ^_~
"KSperling" <kspe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Sceadu
underneath.
Sceadu
Jinny Brown
Someone's probably already answered this but I'll do it too, just in
case:
1. Do your line art on a white Canvas.
2. Select All, then click inside the selection with the Floater Adjuster
tool to lift your line art to a Floater.
3. With the Floater highlighted, in the Controls:Adjuster palette,
choose Gel from the Composite Method drop down list.
This makes white areas of the Floater transparent. Now you can paint on
the Canvas.
Jinny Brown
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http://www.pixelalley.com/pixelalley-sections-pages.html
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*syd and her chibis* wrote:
>
Jinny Brown
Yes, that works too, but remember that in Painter 5.5 when you create a
Transparent Layer you'll need to change the Brush Method to Plugin and
the Subcategory to Transparent Layer Brush, and do this each time you
change to a different Brush Variant.
Jinny Brown
PixelAlley's Section Links:
http://www.pixelalley.com/pixelalley-sections-pages.html
(Painter 5 and 6 tutorials, Painter 7 info, tutorials, PDF downloads,
brushes)
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