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Bonnie Timmons

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Aug 29, 2001, 4:27:49 PM8/29/01
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I can't get the pooling on the edges of brush strokes that was so good
in Painter 6. Manual says to "adjust the Wet Fringe slider" in the
water section of brush controls.
There is no such slider.

Jinny Brown

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Aug 30, 2001, 3:42:15 AM8/30/01
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Bonnie,

I haven't had much time to experiment so far but in the past few minutes
playing around with the settings found in the Painter 7 Water controls,
the best I've found is getting that lovely pooling when I paint over
existing wet paint. Independant brush strokes don't want to produce that
effect... or I haven't figured out how yet.

Here's what I did to get pooling when painting over existing brush
strokes, just one example as I didn't write things down and these are
the last settings I used (if I thought this was worth the bother, I'd
post the XML file but I'm not sure I want to save the variant yet and
this'll take just a minute to set up):

Painted over a white Canvas using R:255 G:11 B:6 (this is a fully
saturated red but painted an interesting tan or light brown.... has a
kind of antique look that I like.. so thanks for the excuse to play).

Water Color's Dry Camel
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Well settings:

Resat: 26%
Bleed: 45%

Water Controls settings:

Wetness: 139
Pickup: 15%
Dry Rate: 0%
Evap Rate: 80%
Diffuse Amt: 20%
Cap Factor: 0.000
Grn Soak-In: 100%
Accurate Diffusion: box checked
Wind settings: left at default

That's all I changed from the default settings. Let me know if it's at
all useful and if you find a way to get the pooling effect you're
looking for, please share it. I'd like to find that also.

Good luck, :o)

Jinny Brown
http://www.pixelalley.com
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DLFrost

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Aug 31, 2001, 5:45:43 AM8/31/01
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I saw a post elsewhere to the effect that you have to turn the slider on in the
customize setting for (I assume) the brush controls. Whether or not it works
would depend on if you're using a pre-version 7 brush. The new watercolor
brushes don't use this setting at all, but use the wind/gravity/time stuff.

Doug Frost

Jinny Brown

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Aug 31, 2001, 4:35:21 PM8/31/01
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Doug,

Yes, the difficulty is finding a way, in Painter 7, to create the
pooling effect at the edges of a Water Color brush stroke. It's no
problem in Painter 6 and Painter 5.

We're working on it.. Paulo, some others, and I and when we get
something satisfactory.. you'll probably hear about it all over the
Painter community. <g>

Although the Painter 7 User Guide instructs the reader to use the Wet
Fringe slider to get the pooling effect, the Wet Fringe slider is not in
the Brush Controls palette's Water section. Wet Fringe is, however in
the Brushes palette's Control menu/Custom Palette/Water dialog box as
one of two check boxes, neither of which do anything at all.. much less
add to the Controls palette (which is what they did in Painter 6).

It appears that function was missed when the programmers and writers
were working on Painter 7 and its documentation.

Thanks, and have a wonderful weekend,

Jinny Brown
http://www.pixelalley.com
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