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Kenny A. Chaffin

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Aug 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/22/00
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In article <lzOjOfJCiECdz9...@4ax.com>,
cybe...@zzzhushmail.com says...
> Does anybody know how Deep Paint stacks up against Painter?
>
>

Oh gawd, not again....okay here's my opinion. Deep Paint is/was only a
cheap imitator of painter's capability and was a shot at grabbing a bunch
of bucks as an "artistic" plugin for photoshop.

KAC
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DLFrost

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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In article <MPG.140ce6306...@news.dimensional.com>,

ke...@kacweb.com (Kenny A. Chaffin) wrote:
> In article <lzOjOfJCiECdz9...@4ax.com>,
> cybe...@zzzhushmail.com says...
> > Does anybody know how Deep Paint stacks up against Painter?

> Oh gawd, not again....okay here's my opinion. Deep Paint is/was only
a
> cheap imitator of painter's capability and was a shot at grabbing a
bunch
> of bucks as an "artistic" plugin for photoshop.

It wasn't as bad as that. For Photoshop users who just don't have the
time to learn Painter's way of doing things, Deep Paint provides
painterly cloning effects with a mild learning curve. But I do agree
that Painter--esp. version 6--is better. The current version supports
multiple layers of Impasto (3d bump-mapping) effects, and the new
brushes are better.

If you (the original poster) want to tell us what kind of work you have
it mind to do, we'd be glad to advise you further.

Doug Frost


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grasshopper

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Aug 25, 2000, 9:20:01 PM8/25/00
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My goal is to create large format 'paintings' of scenery. Starting
with a sketch in Illustrator followed by the use of Painter or Deep
Paint, plus the use of Photoshop along with filters and plug-ins.

Glenn Pechacek

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Aug 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/29/00
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Deep Paint is a side product of their 3D Paint program which is their main
software product. So the paint engine is actually geared more towards 3D
then 2D usage. I have both Painter 6 and Deep Paint, they are similar but
different. Actually the Deep Paint engine was superior to Painter before
the release of Painter 6.

Glenn

Kenny A. Chaffin <ke...@kacweb.com> wrote in message
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> In article <lzOjOfJCiECdz9...@4ax.com>,
> cybe...@zzzhushmail.com says...
> > Does anybody know how Deep Paint stacks up against Painter?
> >
> >
>
> Oh gawd, not again....okay here's my opinion. Deep Paint is/was only a
> cheap imitator of painter's capability and was a shot at grabbing a bunch
> of bucks as an "artistic" plugin for photoshop.
>

Kenny A. Chaffin

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Aug 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/30/00
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In article <DYRq5.2212$On2.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
g.pec...@worldnet.att.net says...

So what changed between 5.5 and 6 in Painter that made the "engine"
better? On what basis was the "engine" better?

Glenn Pechacek

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Aug 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/30/00
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I'm not privy to the code changes so any discussion of what changed would be
a guess on my part.

To answer your second question, better can be subjective but for one the
paint speed is improved with Painter version 6.

Glenn

Kenny A. Chaffin

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Aug 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/30/00
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In article <awar5.1388$U41.1...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
g.pec...@worldnet.att.net says...

Thanks.

Kenny A. Chaffin

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Aug 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/30/00
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In article <8ok9is$qdb$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, dfr...@planetc.com says...
> In article <awar5.1388$U41.1...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

> "Glenn Pechacek" <g.pec...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > I'm not privy to the code changes so any discussion of what changed
> would be
> > a guess on my part.
> >
> > To answer your second question, better can be subjective but for one
> the
> > paint speed is improved with Painter version 6.
> >
> > Glenn
>
> > >
> > > So what changed between 5.5 and 6 in Painter that made the "engine"
> > > better? On what basis was the "engine" better?
> > >
> > > KAC
>
> Extensions were made to the brush engine so that brushes are more
> realistic and smoother, and have new abilities--brush loading,accurate
> tilt/rotation behavior, painting with patterns and grads. (Deep
> Paint's brushing engine is still based on the simple dab model used in
> previous versions of Painter.)
>
> The Impasto feature was opened up from being a plug-in so that it can
> be used anywhere, canvas or miltiple layers (impasto work does not need
> to be 'committed' like before); also several new-generation brushes
> were added that allow modification of depth (bump-map), recoloring,
> erasing, etcetera. Impasto lighting can also be changed at any time.
> These additions give Painter 6 the same abilities as Deep Paint with
> respect to the 3D painterly look, but with better brush quality.

>
> Doug Frost
>
>
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> Before you buy.
>
Thanks Doug. I'm getting the urge to get back to doing some digital are
(if I can get this wacom hooked up to this laptop). It might be worth
upgrading to 6.

BTW anyone want to buy this 6x8 serial wacom pad -- I'd perfer to get the
usb one at this point. Make me an offer.

Best Wishes,

DLFrost

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Aug 30, 2000, 8:41:04 PM8/30/00
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Glenn Pechacek

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Aug 31, 2000, 11:17:26 AM8/31/00
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Ken I have both serial and USB pads. I would not spend the money for just a
side ways move to USB 6x8, it really does not make that much, if any
difference.

Painter 6 is a very good upgrade.
Glenn


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Kenny A. Chaffin

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In article <aGur5.4759$On2.2...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
g.pec...@worldnet.att.net says...
Glenn, thanks for the input. The problem is really a hardware issue. I'm
currently using a laptop that only has one serial port and my MS
Activesync to my winCE nino tends to want that serial port exclusively,
thus the desire to move to usb....

Reed Sprunger

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Sep 1, 2000, 11:14:25 AM9/1/00
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I have an Intuos 6x8 USB and I love it. If there is a problem with the
driver (very rare, esp. compared to the ArtzII on a serial port I had), I
just unplug it and plug it in again. Seems to fix it with no rebooting, and
it doesn't even take another power outlet. I've had a lot less conflicts
with it.

Reed Sprunger


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Glenn Pechacek

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Sep 10, 2000, 7:17:58 PM9/10/00
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How about one of whose serial to USB connections ? Maybe try one if you
have trouble selling your serial pad.

Glenn

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Kenny A. Chaffin

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Sep 11, 2000, 6:33:22 AM9/11/00
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In article <GEUu5.137198$eS6.1...@news1.rdc1.md.home.com>,
pech...@home.com says...
Glenn,
I tried that last week and the wacom drivers wouldn't see the added
serial port for some reason. (the thing I didn't try though before
returning it was to see if the nino/activesync would use it.) I've pretty
much decided to go back to a desktop asap, so in the mean time I'll just
have to make do...

Thanks!

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