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Fugitive

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Mar 30, 2002, 12:04:07 AM3/30/02
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I have to paint in Painter and PSP because I'm not good enough yet in
Painter to do everything, so what I want to do is this. It seems as
though painter likes it's rif format for water effects. I would like
to paint something in psp and then import to painter and get some nice
washes and bleeding going on. It seemed to me when I tried this on a
jpg done in psp that not much happened. Could I import the jpg,
convert to rif, and get better effects. If not that way, can you tell
me how.
TIA
greg

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Jinny Brown

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Mar 30, 2002, 10:16:09 AM3/30/02
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Greg,

You need to save files in Painter's native RIFF format in order to
retain Painter-specific information. You don't need to save the file in
RIFF format to begin working on it, though, using any of Painter's
brushes and features. Just remember to save the file as a RIFF when
you're finished, or if you're working for a long time, save in RIFF
frequently while you work.

In any Painter version, you can do a Clone painting using Water Color
brushes set to Clone Colors:

1. Open your .JPG image.

2. Use File > Clone to make an exact copy. In the File menu, notice that
when you choose Clone Source, the file name of your original .JPG image
is checked. This means that Painter will take color information from
that image when you paint on the Clone.

3. With the Clone active, save the Clone in Painter's native RIFF
format.

4. With the Clone still active, use Ctrl/Command+A to select the entire
Canvas, then use Ctrl/Command+X to clear the Canvas and leave it blank.

5. Use Ctrl/Command+T to turn on Tracing Paper and see a 50% opacity
view of your original .JPG image (or click the Tracing Paper icon in the
upper right corner of the image window, just above the Grid icon, to
toggle Tracing Paper on and off).

6. In the Brushes palette, choose the Water Colors Brush Category, then
choose a Water Color Variant.

7. In the Art Materials palette's Colors section, check the Clone Colors
box.

8. Begin painting. Whenever you want to check the progress of your
painting, use Ctrl/Command+T (or check the Tracing Paper icon) to toggle
Tracing Paper off, then back on again to continue painting.

If you're using Painter 7:

First do some testing on a blank white Canvas to learn how each of the
Water Color variants works. Be sure to test with various Papers as the
effect will be different with each of them. Once you get something you
like, note which Water Color Variant and Paper you used.

1. Open the .JPG image in Painter 7 and in the File menu, choose Clone.

2. Close the original .JPG image and save the Clone with a new name, in
Painter's native RIFF format, something like test01.rif (you may be
doing a series of tests, so name following files test02.rif, test03.rif
and so on).

3. With test01.rif active, in the Objects palette's Layers section menu,
choose Lift Canvas to Water Color Layer.

4. Choose the Water Color Variant and Paper you liked.

5. In the Objects palette's Layers section menu, choose Wet Entire Water
Color Layer, then sit back and watch your image change to what looks
more like a watercolor painting.

Fugitive

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Mar 31, 2002, 12:02:09 AM3/31/02
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Thank you, I already know how to clone but am trying to be more
original than that. Can I get the a bleeding and spreading on a newly
imported jpg? I don't get that part.
Greg

Jinny Brown

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Mar 31, 2002, 8:34:30 AM3/31/02
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Greg,

Using Clone painting can be as original as you want, depending on your
own imagination and use of Painter's brushes and other features. The end
result need not look like a copy of the original at all. It can be a
completely new painting. Clone painting is a convenience and used well
can result in some really lovely things.

You can get that "blending and spreading" using either of the two
methods I gave you and it will result in different effects depending on
the brushes you use and your own painting style.

You could also simply use your .JPG as a visual reference and repaint it
from scratch using whatever Water Color variants you like. Try doing
either of the following:

Open your .JPG then open a new Canvas, the same size and resolution as
the .JPG. Position both on the screen and use the .JPG as a visual
reference while you paint a new watercolor image.

OR...

In Painter 6, open your .JPG, lift it to a Layer, lower the Layer's
Opacity to about 30%, then paint on the Canvas using the Layer as a
reference to create a watercolor painting.

In Painter 7, create a New Water Color Layer and paint on the Water
Color Layer, using the image on the Canvas as a visual reference.


With these methods, you have plenty of options to choose from to create
a watercolor look.

If you still don't get it... try all of them and you'll begin to learn
how they work.

Jinny Brown

PixelAlley Links - Jin's Painter Classes
see http://www.pixelalley.com
or the PixelAlley Section Links Page at:
http://www.pixelalley.com/pixelalley-sections-pages.html
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Fugitive wrote:
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> On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 07:16:09 -0800, Jinny Brown
> <jinb...@mindspring.com> wrote:

<SNIP>

> Thank you, I already know how to clone but am trying to be more
> original than that. Can I get the a bleeding and spreading on a newly
> imported jpg? I don't get that part.
> Greg
>
> Greg

<SNIP>

Michael Clarke

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Mar 31, 2002, 9:05:43 AM3/31/02
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 05:02:09 GMT, Fugitive
<gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote:


>Thank you, I already know how to clone but am trying to be more
>original than that. Can I get the a bleeding and spreading on a newly
>imported jpg? I don't get that part.

Follow Jinnys steps, but once you have selected your water colour
brush, reduce its size and then hit 'effects->AutoClone'. You can
further reduce the brush size and play with the well parameters.

Mik

Mike

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Mar 31, 2002, 10:14:22 AM3/31/02
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Jinny Brown wrote:
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> Greg,
>
> Using Clone painting can be as original as you want, depending on your
> own imagination and use of Painter's brushes and other features. The end
> result need not look like a copy of the original at all. It can be a
> completely new painting.

There are other things that can be done to an image besides clone
painting to give an image a special look.

http://www.artistmike.com/ArtPhotos/ArtPhotos.html
http://www.artistmike.com/OregonPics/VacationPics1.html


http://www.artistmike.com/ArtPhotos2/ArtPhotos2.html
http://www.artistmike.com/ArtPhotos3/ArtPhotos3.html
http://www.artistmike.com/ArtPhotos4/1.html
http://www.artistmike.com/2001Shanaco/1.html

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Fugitive

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Mar 31, 2002, 12:56:51 PM3/31/02
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>
><SNIP>
Thank you, I will try these soon, I am getting Seven soon, will it
have even more neat watercolor stuff than 6?
greg

Jinny Brown

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Mar 31, 2002, 8:12:35 PM3/31/02
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Greg,

Painter 7 has an entirely new Water Color technology that's quite
amazing. You can download Painter Developer John Derry's A Visual Guide
to Corel Painter 7™ Water Color on my site at:

http://www.pixelalley.com/tutorials/jderry-guide-pdf-downloads.html

Here are a couple of sites where you can learn more about Painter 7:

http://www.computerarts.co.uk/news/painter7/

http://www.computerarts.co.uk/news/story.asp?newsFeature=30207

Jinny Brown

PixelAlley Links - Jin's Painter Classes
see http://www.pixelalley.com
or the PixelAlley Section Links Page at:
http://www.pixelalley.com/pixelalley-sections-pages.html

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Fugitive wrote:

<SNIP>

> Thank you, I will try these soon, I am getting Seven soon, will it
> have even more neat watercolor stuff than 6?
> greg

<SNIP>

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