Super Cloner Brush in Painter 7?
Jane Wilson
under Windows 95. My computer was recently stolen (although not the
software discs). My replacement system came with Windows XP and my
attempt to run Painter 5 wasn't successful. A call to Corel confirmed
that it won't run under XP.
Before I invest $300.00 Can. to upgrade to version 7, I would like to
know if the Super Cloner brush, introduced as a new brush in version 5,
exists in version 7. The tech person I consulted at Corel couldn't
find any reference to it.
I'm an amateur landscape painter using watercolours and oils. I take a
series of photos of a subject and then I use the Super Cloner brush to
try out various compositions. I scan in a base photo, use the Super
Cloner brush in offset mode to cover up objects I don't want in the
photo (telephone poles etc) with adjacent vegetation and then use the
scale mode to import objects (trees, rocks etc.) from other photos. Once
I have a composition I like, I print out the image and use it as the
reference for my painting. I really need this brush! Please tell me its
in Version 7. Thanks, Jane
Jinny Brown
I don't think the Super Cloner brush category is in Painter 7, or in the
Version 4, 5, and 6 default brush libraries that are installed with
Painter 7.
However, I believe you'll get the same functions, with more brush
variants, in Painter 7, just presented differently.
So you can compare, here's what's in the SUPER CLONERS BRUSH CATEGORY in
PAINTER 5, accessed in the BRUSHES PALETTE:
BRUSH CATEGORY
Super Clone
BRUSH VARIANTS
Normal (0)
Offset (1)
Rotate & Scale (2 point)
Scale (2 point)
Rotate (2 point)
Rotate & Mirror (2 point)
Rotate, Scale, Shear (3 point)
Bilinear (4 point)
Perspective (4 point)
Perspective Tiling (4 point)
METHOD
Cloning
(Other Methods available are: Buildup, Cover, Eraser, Drip, Mask
(Cover), Wet, and Plug-in)
SUBCATEGORY
Flat Cover
Soft Cover
Grainy Flat Cover
Grainy Soft Cover
Grainy Edge Flat Cover
Grainy Hard Cover
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In PAINTER 7, the CLONERS BRUSH CATEGORY and all of its BRUSH VARIANTS
are accessed in the BRUSHES PALETTE:
BRUSH CATEGORY
Cloners
BRUSH VARIANTS
Bristle Brush Cloner
Camel Impasto Cloner
Camel Oil Cloner
Chalk Cloner
Cloner Spray
Driving Rain Cloner
Felt Pen Cloner
Fiber Cloner
Flat Impasto Cloner
Flat Oil Cloner
Furry Cloner
Impressionist Cloner
Melt Cloner
Oil Brush Cloner
Pencil Sketch Cloner
Smeary Bristle Cloner
Smeary Camel Cloner
Smeary Flat Cloner
Soft Cloner
Splattery Clone Spray
Straight Cloner
Van Gogh Cloner
Water Color Cloner
Water Color Fine Cloner
Water Color Run Cloner
Water Color Wash Cloner
xBilinear 4P
xPerspective 4P
xPerspective Tiling 4P
xRotate 2P
xRotate, Mirror 2P
xRotate, Scale 2P
xRotate, Scale, Shear 3P
xScale 2P
The METHOD and SUBCATEGORY options are accessed in the BRUSH CONTROLS
PALETTE'S GENERAL SECTION:
METHOD
Cloning
(Other Methods available are: Buildup, Cover, Eraser, Drip, Mask
(Cover), Wet, and Plug-in)
SUBCATEGORY
These options vary, depending on the Brush Variant chosen. For the
Straight Cloner, for instance, the options are:
Hard Cover Cloning
Soft Cover Cloning
Grainy Hard Cover Cloning
Grainy Soft Cover Cloning
Drip Cloning
CLONE TYPE options are accessed in the BRUSH CONTROLS PALETTE'S CLONING
SECTION.
CLONE TYPE
Normal (0)
Offset (1)
Rotate & Scale (2 point)
Scale (2 point)
Rotate (2 point)
Rotate & Mirror (2 point)
Rotate, Scale, Shear (3 point)
Bilinear (4 point)
Perspective (4 point)
Perspective Tiling (4 point) is not listed as a Clone Type option.
However, the Painter 7 User Guide says 4-point tiling is available for
Bilinear or Perspective cloning, allowing you to repeat source imagery
acoross a larger area in the destination. The quadrilateral set by the
four clone source points defines an image tile. In the destination, the
tile is warped according to the relative positions of the source and
destination reference points, and repeated to cover the area.
There are endless numbers of ways to control brush settings in Painter
7, so if you don't see something you're accustomed to seeing, there's
probably still a way to get the result you want.
One exception is the Painter 7 Water Color technology which is all new
and different from earlier versions. Because of this, earlier version
Water Color variants, though they can be imported into Painter 7, won't
work the same. Even with this restriction, most of the time there are
other ways to get the results we're after.
As you can see, there are lots more Cloners variants. In addition,
almost any other brush variant can be set to paint as a Cloner.
Hope this information is helpful.
Jinny Brown
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Fugitive
This is great stuff. I copied and put it in my P7 folder.
greg
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KSperling
Are you cloning an identical bit from one part of the image to the other as you
arrange the composition? I have a hunch you mean either the Soft Cloner or the
Straight Cloner, both of which are in both Painter 6 and Painter 7. If not, as
Jinny pointed out, you can get a close approximation to the brush you are using
with any of the other cloner brushes. Also, if you click Use Clone Color in the
Colors palette and paint in a clone (File: Clone) you can make any brush a
cloner.
Karen Sperling
Editor/Publisher
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http://www.artistrymag.com
DLFrost
>know if the Super Cloner brush, introduced as a new brush in version 5,
> exists in version 7. The tech person I consulted at Corel couldn't
>find any reference to it.
The short and simple answer is, yes the supercloning methods in Painter 5 are
available. In fact, it's even better. You can also load the old
SuperCloners.brs becuse the older Painter 5 libraries are included on the CD.
When Painter 6 was created many of the old specialty brush types had their
behaviors intregrated into the brush engine itself so that any brush could use
them. For example, almost any brush can now paint onto a transparant layer--no
need for a special brush set. The special supercloner methods are now
available to any brush that is set to cloning by checking the Clone Color box.
This is much more useful than the previous arrangement. Painter 7 inherited
these changes and works the same way, excepting for the changes in the
watercolor system, of course.
Doug Frost