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WildernessGuy

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Apr 28, 2008, 4:15:36 PM4/28/08
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My family owns a 3,000 acre ranch in Northern California and with the
decline of timber prices we are starting to look into alternative
incomes. We already lease much of the ranch to cattle ranchers, but we
would like to learn of more profitable practices. The timber is
composed mostly of fur, as well as some oak and ponderosa pine. The
elevation is about 3500-4200 feet. I was just wondering if anyone has
had luck with any secondary forest products? Thanks for the input.

Joe

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Apr 28, 2008, 6:02:49 PM4/28/08
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You could grow some fine weed.... er, uh....just joking.
Joe


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clea...@excite.com

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Apr 28, 2008, 7:20:57 PM4/28/08
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In article
<8ec256a9-8c36-477d...@b9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
WildernessGuy <Wildern...@gmail.com> wrote:

The USDA put out a publication several years ago that describes many
types of secondary forest products. The pub gives an overview of the
types of products, how they are processed and packaged, equipment needs,
and the status of the market at that time.

It may give you some ideas to research further.


http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/usda/agib666/aib666.pdf

United States Department of Agriculture
Forest Service
Agriculture Information Bulletin 666
Washington, D.C
May 1993
Income Opportunities in Special Forest Products
Self-Help Suggestions for
Rural Entrepreneurs
Margaret G. Thomas David R. Schumann, retired
Midwest Research Institute State and Private Forestry
425 Volker Boulevard Forest Service
Kansas City, MO U.S. Department of Agriculture
One Gifford Pinchot Drive
Madison, WI

mhagen

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Apr 28, 2008, 8:29:31 PM4/28/08
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That depends on just where in N. Cal he is. I've had friends in
Humboldt Co make very good incomes on that, or garlic. Both beat the
typical "nontimber forest products" you'll find ion the ag literature.
Most of them are pretty seasonal and a lot of hard work.

There are at least two ex Northern Cal foresters on board here. Where
are you?

WildernessGuy

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Apr 30, 2008, 6:10:56 PM4/30/08
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On Apr 28, 5:29 pm, mhagen <mha...@nospamolympus.net> wrote:
> Joe wrote:
> > You could grow some fine weed.... er, uh....just joking.
> > Joe
>
> > "WildernessGuy" <WildernessD...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:8ec256a9-8c36-477d...@b9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> >> My family owns a 3,000 acre ranch in Northern California and with the
> >> decline of timber prices we are starting to look into alternative
> >> incomes. We already lease much of the ranch to cattle ranchers, but we
> >> would like to learn of more profitable practices. The timber is
> >> composed mostly of fur, as well as some oak and ponderosa pine. The
> >> elevation is about 3500-4200 feet. I was just wondering if anyone has
> >> had luck with any secondary forest products? Thanks for the input.
>
> That depends on just where in N. Cal he is. I've had friends in
> Humboldt Co make very good incomes on that, or garlic. Both beat the
> typical "nontimber forest products" you'll find ion the ag literature.
> Most of them are pretty seasonal and a lot of hard work.
>
> There are at least two ex Northern Cal foresters on board here. Where
> are you?

Haha I am in fact in Humboldt County... but prefer to avoid the
marijuana business. You're right though... everyone around here does
grow the stuff... and some of them do make a lot of money. I am more
interested in expanding on the real value of the land, rather than
making a quick buck. Haven't heard much about garlic up here... I'll
have to look into that. BTW clear thanks for the link to that
publication... it has some really good information on it.

mhagen

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Apr 30, 2008, 8:02:35 PM4/30/08
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I lived there in the late 70's and loved it. If there had been a way to
make a decent living, I'd have stayed. The USFS did not pay at that
rate though.

You could talk to the NRCS in Arcata. They might know what has worked
and what's not. Pulp and chips are still ok here.

symplastless

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May 12, 2008, 9:01:49 PM5/12/08
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The Mississippi Valley Laboratory in St. Louis was established in 1899. Dr.
Herman von Schrenk was the director. Studies on wood decay and discoloration
were done mostly. In time, the studies drifted toward wood products. In 1907
the lab was discontinued and the Forest Products Laboratory at Madison,
Wisconsin took over. The major focus of the lab was on wood products decay.
Tree biology never had a chance.


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John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
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and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.


D. Staples

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May 13, 2008, 12:32:52 AM5/13/08
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You rattle to hear your self speak, your answer has nothing to do with the
original post. Typical.

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> Consulting Butter cup> http://home1.ccil.org/~treeman
> and www.treedictionary1.com

symplastless

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"D. Staples" <fores...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You rattle to hear your self speak, your answer has nothing to do with the
> original post. Typical.
>>> Midwest Research Institute State and Private Forestry
>>> 425 Volker Boulevard Forest Service
>>> Kansas City, MO U.S. Department of Agriculture
>>> One Gifford Pinchot Drive
>>> Madison, WI
>>
>> The Mississippi Valley Laboratory in St. Louis was established in 1899.
>> Dr. Herman von Schrenk was the director. Studies on wood decay and
>> discoloration were done mostly. In time, the studies drifted toward wood
>> products. In 1907 the lab was discontinued and the Forest Products
>> Laboratory at Madison, Wisconsin took over. The major focus of the lab
>> was on wood products decay. Tree biology never had a chance.
>>
Wrong as usuall.


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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.

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