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Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!  
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From: "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lord...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:09:25 -0400
Local: Thurs, May 15 2008 11:09 pm
Subject: Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'

"Rudy Canoza" <pi...@thedismalscience.not> wrote in message

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> All "vegans" begin their belief in "veganism" by
> subscribing to a logically fallacious argument:

>       If I eat meat, I cause harm to animals

>       I do not eat meat;

>       Therefore, I do not cause harm to animals.

> This argument contains a classic fallacy:  Denying the
> Antecedent.  It is obvious there are other ways to
> cause harm to animals.  The one that is much discussed
> in alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian/talk.politics.animals
> is collateral animal deaths in agriculture.  Uncounted
> millions of animals are slaughtered in the course of
> vegetable agriculture, either unintentionally as a
> result of mechanized farming, or intentionally by pest
> control.  Once "vegans" recognize the fact of animal
> CDs, the fallacy of the argument becomes clear.

> However, we still observe "vegans" spending tremendous
> time and mental energy trying to get rid of the last
> trace of animal parts from their diet.  I call this the
> Search for Micrograms, i.e., micrograms of animal parts
> in food.  The idea, of course, is to determine if there
> are any micrograms of animal parts in a food item, and
> if so, exclude it from their diet.

> Not long ago, in alt.food.vegan, a "vegan" posted a
> comment to the effect that canned black olives are in a
> juice that contains octopus ink, to make the juice
> dark.  She wasn't able to substantiate the rumor - it
> smacked of a very narrow, "vegan"-oriented urban legend
> - and none of the other participants seemed especially
> eager to eliminate canned black olives from their
> diets.  Nonetheless, it provided an excellent example
> of the bizarre, obsessive Search for Micrograms.

> Meanwhile, with only rare exceptions, the observation
> that "vegans" do virtually *nothing* to reduce the
> animal collateral death toll caused by the production
> and distribution of the foods they personally eat goes
> all but unchallenged.  What little challenge is mounted
> is not credible.  One "vegan" poster in a.a.e.v. and
> t.p.a., one of the more egregious sophists in the
> groups, claims that she is doing "all she can" by
> buying "locally produced" fruit and vegetables - as if
> the geographic locale of production has anything to do
> with the care farmers might take to ensure they don't
> kill animals.  It simply is not credible.

> How, then, to explain the bizarre Search for
> Micrograms?  It is as if, despite some of them knowing
> that the original argument is fallacious, "vegans"
> *still* accept it.

> I think it is pretty much a given that "veganism" is a
> form of religion.  Although "vegans" prefer to dwell on
> what they call "ethics", their devotion to the
> religious injunction - don't eat animals - gives them
> away.  In that light, the obsessive Search for
> Micrograms takes on the character of a religious
> ritual; sort of like performing the stations of the
> cross, or reciting a prayer 20 or 30 times.

Ooh! Ooh! Now do Global Warming!

LG (enjoyed that)
--
If you wonder how it came to be generally acknowledged "fact," accepted by
all men of good will, that Joe McCarthy was a monster, that Alger Hiss was
innocent, that mankind is causing global warming and that we're losing the
war in Iraq, try watching the rewriting of history nightly on MSNBC. - Ann
Coulter


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