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Sqwertz

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Jul 19, 2009, 6:28:51 PM7/19/09
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Ingredients:

Toasted Onion Kaiser Roll: $.33
1/3 lb home-ground brisket: $.28
2 slices of HEB premium, thick sliced bacon $.40
1 thick slice of Finlandia Munster Cheese: $.17
1 pickled jalapeno, sliced thin: $.03
Sriracha mayo and ketchup: $.04

Method:

The bacon was cut in half to facilitate cooking and assembly. The
burger patty is one of 12 I ground from whole brisket and froze last
week. It was cooked from frozen state at the same time and in the
same pan as the bacon (I'll have to do that more often). The
jalapeno is sliced thin and placed on the burger and under the
cheese for the last minute of cooking. The sriracha must be mixed
with the mayo before spreading on the toasted bun.

Results:

Time to cook, assemble and clean up after this this "goremay $100.00
Burger" (the only kind Sam will eat [sic]): 11 minutes.

Cost of this $100.00 goremay Burger : $1.25.

Tastewise: You won't get anything this tasty from a drive thru.

My only regret is that I didn't make 2, or make it a double (which
would have only taken 1 minute longer).

Compare this to running out and grabbing a Quarter Pounder W/cheese
for $2.39 +tax and the choice is pretty clear.

-sw

D

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Jul 19, 2009, 7:22:15 PM7/19/09
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Sounds damn good, sw!

d

Pete C.

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Jul 19, 2009, 7:57:39 PM7/19/09
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Seconded. I've always done BK style ketchup and mayo, so I'll have to
try the sriracha mayo next time I make burgers.

JERRY

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Jul 19, 2009, 7:50:57 PM7/19/09
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
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Steve, any kindergartener will tell you that burger won't taste as good as
one you'll pay $100 dollar's for at a gourmet restaurant.

And my personal opinion is it won't taste as good as a quarter pounder.
Mcdonald's knows how to cook a damn good burger or they wouldn't be in
business all those year's.


Paco

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Jul 19, 2009, 10:43:30 PM7/19/09
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
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Fine, Mr. Fancy-schmancy show-off. I still think MY burger is the best,
even if it ain't gormay.

Pete C.

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Jul 19, 2009, 11:30:42 PM7/19/09
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McDonald's has been in business all those years by being everywhere and
by catering to hell spawn... er... kids. Both Burger King and Wendy's
have much better burgers.

Sqwertz

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Jul 19, 2009, 11:55:21 PM7/19/09
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:30:42 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

> McDonald's has been in business all those years by being everywhere and
> by catering to hell spawn... er... kids. Both Burger King and Wendy's
> have much better burgers.

Really. I don't even consider what McDonald's serves as burgers.
They've tweaked them so much over the years that they are no longer
recognizable as hamburgers tastewise. The QP with cheese, for
example, is nothing but mushy mass of overly sweet goo with no
texture except the lone pickle slice. You simply can't make
something like that at home - why would you?

-sw

Omelet

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Jul 20, 2009, 1:54:01 AM7/20/09
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In article <fhy53nsonwyu$.d...@sqwertz.com>,
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote:

> Compare this to running out and grabbing a Quarter Pounder W/cheese
> for $2.39 +tax and the choice is pretty clear.
>
> -sw

All it needed was some avocado... ;-d

I'd have ground some of that brisket too at $.87 per lb. but I did not
have the freezer space. :-(

I'd not seen it for that price in years...
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George Leppla

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Jul 20, 2009, 7:42:20 AM7/20/09
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"Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net> wrote

> McDonald's has been in business all those years by being everywhere and
> by catering to hell spawn... er... kids. Both Burger King and Wendy's
> have much better burgers.


If you are in the right area of the US, Whataburger blows them both away.
http://www.whataburger.com/

McDonalds is a great example of how advertising can create a perception and
customer loyalty.

George L

Sqwertz

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Jul 20, 2009, 8:03:32 AM7/20/09
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:42:20 -0500, George Leppla wrote:

> McDonalds is a great example of how advertising can create a perception and
> customer loyalty.

Imagine how cheap McBurgers would be if they didn't spend billions
of dollars on advertising campaigns.

The hamburgers would be so cheap everybody would literally be afraid
to buy them.

-sw

Sqwertz

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Jul 20, 2009, 8:04:46 AM7/20/09
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:54:01 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> I'd have ground some of that brisket too at $.87 per lb. but I did not
> have the freezer space. :-(

This was $.67/lb. The local Walmarts and HEBs were having a brisket
war that weekend.

-sw

Omelet

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Jul 20, 2009, 8:20:49 AM7/20/09
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In article <u324ce7f...@sqwertz.com>,
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote:

Cool. Our local Wal-mart evidently did not participate.
I have yet to see them compete with the meat prices.... Weird.

Nice score.

Pete C.

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Jul 20, 2009, 9:33:27 AM7/20/09
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I've always had two pickle slices on my QPs, perhaps they cut back
recently?

Pete C.

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Jul 20, 2009, 9:37:08 AM7/20/09
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George Leppla wrote:
>
> "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net> wrote
>
> > McDonald's has been in business all those years by being everywhere and
> > by catering to hell spawn... er... kids. Both Burger King and Wendy's
> > have much better burgers.
>
> If you are in the right area of the US, Whataburger blows them both away.
> http://www.whataburger.com/

I'm in the right area of the US, but I don't care for whataburger for
various reasons. The burgers at Sonic, also in this area, are fairly
decent. Of course going outside the fast food thing, Fudruckers does a
pretty good burger.

Still, it's difficult to top a home made burger using fresh ground
non-oxidized meat promptly cooked over very hot charcoal to crispy
outside, rare inside.

>
> McDonalds is a great example of how advertising can create a perception and
> customer loyalty.

It's all about the marketing and hype, although even that sometimes
fails as was the case when Krispy Creme came to the northeast and failed
within a couple years.

blake murphy

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Jul 20, 2009, 10:05:11 AM7/20/09
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i have no doubt that *you* could not make a better burger than mcdougal's.
but steve is not an idiot.

blake

blake murphy

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Jul 20, 2009, 10:08:11 AM7/20/09
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:42:20 -0500, George Leppla wrote:

well, there's also consistency. you can get the same consistently crappy
burger from alaska to florida. or (god help us) paris or tokyo.

your pal,
blake

George Leppla

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Jul 20, 2009, 10:15:18 AM7/20/09
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"Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net> wrote

> I'm in the right area of the US, but I don't care for whataburger for
> various reasons. The burgers at Sonic, also in this area, are fairly
> decent. Of course going outside the fast food thing, Fudruckers does a
> pretty good burger.

Sonic is perry good, but I don't like eating in my car.

> Still, it's difficult to top a home made burger using fresh ground
> non-oxidized meat promptly cooked over very hot charcoal to crispy
> outside, rare inside.

Agreed. And I don't have to tell someone PLEASE.... NO MUSTARD ON MY
BURGER!!!

George L

George Leppla

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Jul 20, 2009, 10:21:43 AM7/20/09
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"blake murphy" <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I was in Brazil a few years ago and a local cab driver gave me excellent
service over the space of two weeks. She was scheduled to take me to the
airport for my flight home and I told her to pick me up early and I would
take her to lunch on the way... and she chose to eat at McDonalds. Same
stuff they have here, except that in addition to Apple and Cherry pies...
they also had banana. The McDonalds was in the same shopping center as
Wal-mart. I might as well have been in New Jersey.

George L

Dimitri

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Jul 20, 2009, 11:00:07 AM7/20/09
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
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> Ingredients:
>
> Toasted Onion Kaiser Roll: $.33
> 1/3 lb home-ground brisket: $.28
> 2 slices of HEB premium, thick sliced bacon $.40
> 1 thick slice of Finlandia Munster Cheese: $.17
> 1 pickled jalapeno, sliced thin: $.03
> Sriracha mayo and ketchup: $.04
>
> Method:
>
> The bacon was cut in half to facilitate cooking and assembly. The
> burger patty is one of 12 I ground from whole brisket and froze last
> week. It was cooked from frozen state at the same time and in the
> same pan as the bacon (I'll have to do that more often). The
> jalapeno is sliced thin and placed on the burger and under the
> cheese for the last minute of cooking. The sriracha must be mixed
> with the mayo before spreading on the toasted bun.
>
> Results:
>
> Time to cook, assemble and clean up after this this "goremay $100.00
> Burger" (the only kind Sam will eat [sic]): 11 minutes.
>
> Cost of this $100.00 goremay Burger : $1.25.
>
> Tastewise: You won't get anything this tasty from a drive thru.


Never had an In-N-Out have you?

Dimitri

Dimitri

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Jul 20, 2009, 11:05:53 AM7/20/09
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
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> Ingredients:
>
> Toasted Onion Kaiser Roll: $.33
> 1/3 lb home-ground brisket: $.28

Brisket @ 84 cents per pound? R I G H T!

Dimitri

Pete C.

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Jul 20, 2009, 11:12:45 AM7/20/09
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Yep, but only in Texas.

Omelet

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Jul 20, 2009, 12:04:27 PM7/20/09
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In article <8cxljurygy7z.r...@40tude.net>,
blake murphy <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:

> > Steve, any kindergartener will tell you that burger won't taste as good as
> > one you'll pay $100 dollar's for at a gourmet restaurant.
> >
> > And my personal opinion is it won't taste as good as a quarter pounder.
> > Mcdonald's knows how to cook a damn good burger or they wouldn't be in
> > business all those year's.
>
> i have no doubt that *you* could not make a better burger than mcdougal's.
> but steve is not an idiot.
>
> blake

And Steve knows how to cook.
Sauk is too lazy to learn.

But, I doubt Sauks jaded tastes would know a good burger if they tripped
over it. He's a junk food junkie.

Steve eats REAL food most of the time.

Omelet

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Jul 20, 2009, 12:06:17 PM7/20/09
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In article <bJ%8m.10673$E61....@newsfe09.iad>,
"Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net> wrote:

Hm. I still have the one in the freezer that is $.87 per lb.
I'll be happy to take a jpeg since I've not cooked it yet!

They had a MAJOR sale over the 4th of July holiday.

Sqwertz

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Jul 20, 2009, 12:20:09 PM7/20/09
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:33:27 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>> The QP with cheese, for
>> example, is nothing but mushy mass of overly sweet goo with no
>> texture except the lone pickle slice. You simply can't make
>> something like that at home - why would you?
>

> I've always had two pickle slices on my QPs, perhaps they cut back
> recently?

They just slice them paper thin. The last QP I got had the two
slices, but they were folded in half right next to each other making
them appear as one.

-sxw

Sqwertz

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Jul 20, 2009, 12:23:27 PM7/20/09
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Like I explained, it was only $.67/lb.

Such haters and doubters out here lately.

-sw

brooklyn1

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Jul 20, 2009, 3:33:45 PM7/20/09
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"Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <bJ%8m.10673$E61....@newsfe09.iad>,
> "Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
>> news:fhy53nsonwyu$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>> > Ingredients:
>> >
>> > Toasted Onion Kaiser Roll: $.33
>> > 1/3 lb home-ground brisket: $.28
>>
>> Brisket @ 84 cents per pound? R I G H T!
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> Hm. I still have the one in the freezer that is $.87 per lb.
> I'll be happy to take a jpeg since I've not cooked it yet!
>
> They had a MAJOR sale over the 4th of July holiday.
>
>

Sale schmale... gots to be mighty gristlely meat when the burger costs less
than the roll... that Sqwartz booger cost less than 1/3 the price of a 3 oz
can of gourmet cat food... my cats eat better than that furschluganeh
mextexican. LOL LOL

And only a TIADer would use muenster cheese on a burger, schtinks like toe
cheese. hehe And he makes fun of me... heck, a third pound of grilled SPAM
costs like three times his gristley booger .

I don't believe him anyway, when he says he ground the meat his ownself and
he shoulda made two burgers... no one is going to dirty a grinder for a 1/3
lb of meat... that's why he didn't post a picture, he never made that
burger, no way, no how... the dwarf prolly made up this disney tale as an
alibi for his mugging a three year old for a Happy Meal! <G>

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .

Sqwertz

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Jul 20, 2009, 4:23:55 PM7/20/09
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:33:45 GMT, brooklyn1 wrote:

> that Sqwartz booger cost less than 1/3 the price of a 3 oz
> can of gourmet cat food...

You spend over $20 a pound on cat food while you eat Spam three
times a week and you have the balls to call somebody else a fool?

> I don't believe him anyway, when he says he ground the meat his ownself and
> he shoulda made two burgers... no one is going to dirty a grinder for a 1/3
> lb of meat...

Yeah - you got me there. I bought 2 briskets and cut off 1/3rd of a
pound to grind.

I guess you missed this part:

"The bacon was cut in half to facilitate cooking and assembly. The
burger patty is one of 12 I ground from whole brisket and froze last
week"

Dumbass. And that doesn't include the 2 1-lb packages of ground
beef for other uses.

Why do stupid people always assume that everybody is as stupid as
themselves? This is why I love Usenet so much: it makes you
realize that you could be a hell of a lot worse off.

And Sheldon always pops up in response to my posts like a chihuahua
with a hard-on. And soon goes limp.

-sw

brooklyn1

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Jul 20, 2009, 4:57:53 PM7/20/09
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
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Had you done all you now claim you'd have said so originally. You lie like
a rug.


Robert

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"JERRY" <jerr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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What Kindergartener do you know that has the allowance or the transportation
to eat at a Gourmet restaurant

> And my personal opinion is it won't taste as good as a quarter pounder.
> Mcdonald's knows how to cook a damn good burger or they wouldn't be in
> business all those year's.
>
>

Your opinion referring to his creation or the one from the gourmet
restaurant?

Robert


Robert

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Jul 20, 2009, 6:25:39 PM7/20/09
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"brooklyn1" <grave...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Try attending the remedial reading class. He stated he ground up and froze
12 patties last week (4 pound total). he only cooking one frozen patty for
that sandwich.

Robert


D

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Jul 20, 2009, 7:17:50 PM7/20/09
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Pete C. wrote:

>
> McDonald's has been in business all those years by being everywhere and
> by catering to hell spawn... er... kids. Both Burger King and Wendy's
> have much better burgers.

Did you catch that Wendy's "Better than fast food" thing? I guess they
are trying to say they aren't fast food anymore.

d

D

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Jul 20, 2009, 7:20:00 PM7/20/09
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Fuddrucker's has beer so they get a pass in my book!

d

Robert

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"D" <inter...@gmail34.com> wrote in message
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Oh no, you done it now!

Robert


Sqwertz

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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:57:53 GMT, brooklyn1 wrote:

> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
> news:aacsq4kb...@sqwertz.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:33:45 GMT, brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> I guess you missed this part:
>>
>> "The bacon was cut in half to facilitate cooking and assembly. The
>> burger patty is one of 12 I ground from whole brisket and froze last
>> week"
>>
>> Dumbass. And that doesn't include the 2 1-lb packages of ground
>> beef for other uses.
>

> Had you done all you now claim you'd have said so originally. You lie like
> a rug.

I said it in the original post to the this thread.

Duh.

This is actually working out well. I don't even have to post about
how lame Sheldon is any more. I just post something on-topic, and
he comes out of nowhere begging to make an ass out himself time
after time.

-sw

Sqwertz

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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:41:12 -0600, Gloria P wrote:

> Dimitri wrote:
>>
>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
>
>>>

>>> Cost of this $100.00 goremay Burger : $1.25.
>>>
>>> Tastewise: You won't get anything this tasty from a drive thru.
>>
>> Never had an In-N-Out have you?
>

> I KNEW someone was gonna say that.

Figures it would take somebody as brain-dead as Dimitri.

In and Out is the most over-rated hamburger on the planet. Yes,
I've had them plenty of times, and no, I never thought it was worth
it - no matter what covert phrases you use when you order it that
enable them to try and make it so that you'll like it.

And those fires simply suck. Well-done or not. Not to mention the
damn religious slogans on all the packaging.

I will give them credit for paying their employees well, though.
That was the only thing I admired about I&O. But that has pretty
much been negated by all their internal family squabbles.

Nothing beats a home-cooked burger - at least not at my house. If
you can't beat I&O - or McDonald's - in your own home then you
simply can't cook.

-sw

Mark Thorson

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Jul 20, 2009, 10:36:12 PM7/20/09
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Sqwertz wrote:
>
> This is actually working out well. I don't even have to post about
> how lame Sheldon is any more. I just post something on-topic, and
> he comes out of nowhere begging to make an ass out himself time
> after time.

Shame on you for teasing a mental cripple this way! :-(

Paco

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"D" <inter...@gmail34.com> wrote in message
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Here we go again!

nospam

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Jul 21, 2009, 4:17:41 AM7/21/09
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George Leppla wrote:
>
> "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net> wrote

>
>> McDonald's has been in business all those years by being everywhere and
>> by catering to hell spawn... er... kids. Both Burger King and Wendy's
>> have much better burgers.
>
>
> If you are in the right area of the US, Whataburger blows them both away.

If you are not in the area served by whataBJberger with GL as the one to
serve you then it BLOWS twice as good otherwise whatabj blows three
times as good just ask faggory morrow and you get a crappy burger on the
side.

JERRY

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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:30:42 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>
> > McDonald's has been in business all those years by being everywhere and
> > by catering to hell spawn... er... kids. Both Burger King and Wendy's
> > have much better burgers.
>
> Really. I don't even consider what McDonald's serves as burgers.
> They've tweaked them so much over the years that they are no longer
> recognizable as hamburgers tastewise. The QP with cheese, for

> example, is nothing but mushy mass of overly sweet goo with no
> texture except the lone pickle slice. You simply can't make
> something like that at home - why would you?
>
> -sw

Steve, knock off your damn lying just once. Millions of people eat
Mcdonald's burgers every day, so obviously they taste really good.


JERRY

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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
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Uhh wait a minute, hold the damn phone right there steve...

You said you only eat at mcdonald's twice a year yet... not one day after
the subject of pickle's comes up about mcdonald's burger, you instantly
recall your last experiene with mcdoanld's pickles? Not only did you happen
to know exactly how many pickle slices there was, but THIER DAMN ARRANGEMENT
ON THE BUN?????

Something's wrong here steve. There's no fucking way you eat thier two
times a year. You eat thier every damn day.


Robert

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"Paco" <kiss_m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It's the bottom of the fourth inning. The Sauk is headed for a shutout. Doug
is at the plate, but Oh no....?

Robert


Robert

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"JERRY" <jerr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jerry millions of people use mayo on their burgers every day, so obviously
it tastes really good and your a fool for not liking it!!

Robert


Bobo Bonobo®

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Jul 21, 2009, 8:55:26 AM7/21/09
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Cross posting from the fast food group allowed you to bring your alter
ego to RFC.

Why else would you have x-posted to begin with?

Everyone should notice the deliberate misuse of apostrophes and
homophones.

If you read Jerry's posts over time you will see that he is not real,
but merely a fictional character.

Steve, of course, denies this.

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo®

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Jul 21, 2009, 9:03:53 AM7/21/09
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On Jul 20, 8:37 am, "Pete C." <aux3.DO...@snet.net> wrote:

> Of course going outside the fast food thing, Fudruckers does a
> pretty good burger.
>

A very good burger.

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo®

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On Jul 20, 9:05 am, blake murphy <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:50:57 -0500, JERRY wrote:
> > "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
> >news:fhy53nsonwyu$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
> >> Ingredients:
>
> >> Toasted Onion Kaiser Roll: $.33
> >> 1/3 lb home-ground brisket: $.28
> >> 2 slices of HEB premium, thick sliced bacon $.40
> >> 1 thick slice of Finlandia Munster Cheese: $.17
> >> 1 pickled jalapeno, sliced thin: $.03
> >> Sriracha mayo and ketchup: $.04
>
> >> Method:
>
> >> The bacon was cut in half to facilitate cooking and assembly. The
> >> burger patty is one of 12 I ground from whole brisket and froze last
> >> week. It was cooked from frozen state at the same time and in the
> >> same pan as the bacon (I'll have to do that more often).  The
> >> jalapeno is sliced thin and placed on the burger and under the
> >> cheese for the last minute of cooking.  The sriracha must be mixed
> >> with the mayo before spreading on the toasted bun.
>
> >> Results:
>
> >> Time to cook, assemble and clean up after this this "goremay $100.00
> >> Burger" (the only kind Sam will eat [sic]): 11 minutes.
>
> >> Cost of this $100.00 goremay Burger : $1.25.
>
> >> Tastewise:  You won't get anything this tasty from a drive thru.
>
> >> My only regret is that I didn't make 2, or make it a double (which
> >> would have only taken 1 minute longer).
>
> >> Compare this to running out and grabbing a Quarter Pounder W/cheese
> >> for $2.39 +tax and the choice is pretty clear.
>
> >> -sw
>
> > Steve, any kindergartener will tell you that burger won't taste as good as
> > one you'll pay $100 dollar's for at a gourmet restaurant.
>
> > And my personal opinion is it won't taste as good as a quarter pounder.
> > Mcdonald's knows how to cook a damn good burger or they wouldn't be in
> > business all those year's.
>
> i have no doubt that *you* could not make a better burger than mcdougal's.
> but steve is not an idiot.

Steve authors the Jerry posts. It's one of his hobbies.
>
> blake

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo®

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On Jul 20, 11:04 am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <8cxljurygy7z.rfywlszursg9....@40tude.net>,

>  blake murphy <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > Steve, any kindergartener will tell you that burger won't taste as good as
> > > one you'll pay $100 dollar's for at a gourmet restaurant.
>
> > > And my personal opinion is it won't taste as good as a quarter pounder.
> > > Mcdonald's knows how to cook a damn good burger or they wouldn't be in
> > > business all those year's.
>
> > i have no doubt that *you* could not make a better burger than mcdougal's.
> > but steve is not an idiot.
>
> > blake
>
> And Steve knows how to cook.
> Sauk is too lazy to learn.
>
> But, I doubt Sauks jaded tastes would know a good burger if they tripped
> over it. He's a junk food junkie.

He is a sock puppet.


>
> Steve eats REAL food most of the time.

Steve *is* "REAL." Jerry is a fictitious character.

> --
> Peace! Om
>
--Bryan

Pete C.

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Jul 21, 2009, 9:54:03 AM7/21/09
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Millions of people eat them for one of two reasons:

- They're fast and conveniently located so they settle, not having time
for a better burger.

- They've only ever eaten McD's burgers or uncle Bob's incinerated
burgers at the family cook out and don't know any better.

Sqwertz

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Jul 21, 2009, 10:55:45 AM7/21/09
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:06:01 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo� wrote:

> Steve authors the Jerry posts. It's one of his hobbies.

Sam is so busted <yawn>.

And that <yawan> was for real. Between the Sam, Steve, PVC and
Graeme posts I get no sleep at all.

-sw

brooklyn1

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Jul 21, 2009, 10:58:21 AM7/21/09
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"JERRY" <jerr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, not really... the swartz dwarf buys his golden arches boogers by the
gross and freezes them to eat at home... then the texass snake attempts to
convince us how he prepares his own. Hey, didja ever see his rendition of a
chicken hide soccer ball... goooooooooooal!

Ahahahahahahaha. . . .


blake murphy

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Jul 21, 2009, 11:19:14 AM7/21/09
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you're nuts.

blake

cybercat

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Jul 21, 2009, 11:21:32 AM7/21/09
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"blake murphy" <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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He's also stupid, and an animal abuser.


blake murphy

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Jul 21, 2009, 1:50:17 PM7/21/09
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it's a nasty job, but someone has to do it.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy

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Jul 21, 2009, 1:56:07 PM7/21/09
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it's nice that sheldon has a skill.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy

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Jul 21, 2009, 1:57:57 PM7/21/09
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once again, geniuses of a feather flock together.

blake

D

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Jul 21, 2009, 7:42:11 PM7/21/09
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What?

d

D

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Jul 21, 2009, 7:45:38 PM7/21/09
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Sqwertz wrote:

> Figures it would take somebody as brain-dead as Dimitri.
>
> In and Out is the most over-rated hamburger on the planet. Yes,
> I've had them plenty of times, and no, I never thought it was worth
> it - no matter what covert phrases you use when you order it that
> enable them to try and make it so that you'll like it.
>
> And those fires simply suck. Well-done or not. Not to mention the
> damn religious slogans on all the packaging.
>
> I will give them credit for paying their employees well, though.
> That was the only thing I admired about I&O. But that has pretty
> much been negated by all their internal family squabbles.
>
> Nothing beats a home-cooked burger - at least not at my house. If
> you can't beat I&O - or McDonald's - in your own home then you
> simply can't cook.
>
> -sw

Homemade burgers are always the best, but In & Out (and Jack In The Box
and Steak N Shake) are all very good FF burgers IMO.

d

D

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Jul 21, 2009, 7:51:01 PM7/21/09
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I either do the K&M thing or the Lettuce, Tomato, Pickle, and Mayo. I
prefer to not mix ketchup and mustard with mayo. If bacon is on the
burger, I go the mayo route (BLT thing, I guess). I'd love to find a FF
restaurant that has decent bacon. It has gotten so thin it's like paper
and you don't have the option for extra bacon.

d

Scott

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Kids will argue about the darndest things

JERRY

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Jul 22, 2009, 5:00:38 PM7/22/09
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Who in the hell is "Steve"?

(And why are you reading yet another post in this thread, sf?)

-sw

Bob Muncie

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Jul 22, 2009, 5:45:58 PM7/22/09
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Funny you should post to that concept. The analogy that came to my mind
is that this is like having a couple of dogs in adjoining yards, that
will never have access to the other due to the fence in between. And yet
they continue to yap at each other no mater what.

Bob

projectile vomit chick

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Jul 22, 2009, 6:29:12 PM7/22/09
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On Jul 19, 5:28 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote:
> Ingredients:
>
> Toasted Onion Kaiser Roll: $.33
> 1/3 lb home-ground brisket: $.28
> 2 slices of HEB premium, thick sliced bacon $.40
> 1 thick slice of Finlandia Munster Cheese: $.17
> 1 pickled jalapeno, sliced thin: $.03
> Sriracha mayo and ketchup: $.04

Thank you SO much for not putting bread crumbs into your patty and
making in into meatloaf! It just drives me nuts, all the people that
do that.

Anyway, sounds good. I might make this later.

projectile vomit chick

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Jul 22, 2009, 6:29:59 PM7/22/09
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On Jul 19, 6:50 pm, "JERRY" <jerrys...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> And my personal opinion is it won't taste as good as a quarter pounder.
> Mcdonald's knows how to cook a damn good burger or they wouldn't be in
> business all those year's.

lol....what, do you work there or something? hehhhhhh

projectile vomit chick

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Jul 22, 2009, 6:33:37 PM7/22/09
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On Jul 20, 9:15 am, "George Leppla" <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote:
>
> Sonic is perry good, but I don't like eating in my car.

Yeah, those frozen patties make a delicious treat. I think you must
be suffering from what Sheldon refers to as "Taste In Ass Disease".

Bobo Bonobo®

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Jul 22, 2009, 9:01:18 PM7/22/09
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I quit having much to do with the fast-food NG, mostly because of the
Jerry persona. It seems obvious that Mr. Wertz created Jerry as a
sock puppet.

Steve, please leave Jerry in a.f.f-f, and quit x-posting to r.f.c just
to bring in your sock puppet.
>
> Bob

--Bryan

U.N.

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Jul 23, 2009, 12:51:07 AM7/23/09
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On Jul 20, 7:03 am, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:42:20 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
> > McDonalds is a great example of how advertising can create a perception and
> > customer loyalty.
>
> Imagine how cheap McBurgers would be if they didn't spend billions
> of dollars on advertising campaigns.
>
> The hamburgers would be so cheap everybody would literally be afraid
> to buy them.
>
> -sw

I don't care how much they cost, I'm still afraid to buy them.


This thread makes me want to buy a meatgrinder attachment for my
Kitchenaid though.
-J

JERRY

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Jul 23, 2009, 3:26:41 AM7/23/09
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"Robert" <racemaildro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "JERRY" <jerr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:w6ednSJNsou3Lv7X...@supernews.com...

> >
> > "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
> > news:fhy53nsonwyu$.dlg@sqwertz.com...

> >> Ingredients:
> >>
> >> Toasted Onion Kaiser Roll: $.33
> >> 1/3 lb home-ground brisket: $.28
> >> 2 slices of HEB premium, thick sliced bacon $.40
> >> 1 thick slice of Finlandia Munster Cheese: $.17
> >> 1 pickled jalapeno, sliced thin: $.03
> >> Sriracha mayo and ketchup: $.04
> >>
> >> Method:

> >>
> >> The bacon was cut in half to facilitate cooking and assembly. The
> >> burger patty is one of 12 I ground from whole brisket and froze last
> >> week. It was cooked from frozen state at the same time and in the
> >> same pan as the bacon (I'll have to do that more often). The
> >> jalapeno is sliced thin and placed on the burger and under the
> >> cheese for the last minute of cooking. The sriracha must be mixed
> >> with the mayo before spreading on the toasted bun.
> >>
> >> Results:
> >>
> >> Time to cook, assemble and clean up after this this "goremay $100.00
> >> Burger" (the only kind Sam will eat [sic]): 11 minutes.
> >>
> >> Cost of this $100.00 goremay Burger : $1.25.
> >>
> >> Tastewise: You won't get anything this tasty from a drive thru.
> >>
> >> My only regret is that I didn't make 2, or make it a double (which
> >> would have only taken 1 minute longer).
> >>
> >> Compare this to running out and grabbing a Quarter Pounder W/cheese
> >> for $2.39 +tax and the choice is pretty clear.
> >>
> >> -sw
> >
> > Steve, any kindergartener will tell you that burger won't taste as good
as

> > one you'll pay $100 dollar's for at a gourmet restaurant.
> >
>
>
> What Kindergartener do you know that has the allowance or the
transportation
> to eat at a Gourmet restaurant

I never said that one did. STFU troll.


JERRY

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"D" <inter...@gmail34.com> wrote in message
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> Pete C. wrote:
>
> >
> > McDonald's has been in business all those years by being everywhere and
> > by catering to hell spawn... er... kids. Both Burger King and Wendy's
> > have much better burgers.
>
> Did you catch that Wendy's "Better than fast food" thing? I guess they
> are trying to say they aren't fast food anymore.
>
> d

Actually, Wendy's can both be better then other fast-food restourant's yet
still be fast-food itself. So it's a true thing to say.


JERRY

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"Robert" <racemaildro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "JERRY" <jerr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vZWdneVZK-k-GfjX...@supernews.com...

> >
> > "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote in message
> > news:6c2t4cgpm2xp$.dlg@sqwertz.com...

> >> On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:30:42 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
> >>
> >> > McDonald's has been in business all those years by being everywhere
and
> >> > by catering to hell spawn... er... kids. Both Burger King and Wendy's
> >> > have much better burgers.
> >>
> >> Really. I don't even consider what McDonald's serves as burgers.
> >> They've tweaked them so much over the years that they are no longer
> >> recognizable as hamburgers tastewise. The QP with cheese, for

> >> example, is nothing but mushy mass of overly sweet goo with no
> >> texture except the lone pickle slice. You simply can't make
> >> something like that at home - why would you?
> >>
> >> -sw
> >
> > Steve, knock off your damn lying just once. Millions of people eat
> > Mcdonald's burgers every day, so obviously they taste really good.
> >
> >
> Jerry millions of people use mayo on their burgers every day, so obviously
> it tastes really good and your a fool for not liking it!!
>
> Robert


Well, wrong, sorta. I don't eat mayo because personally I don't like it.
But, amny people DO like it, which is why millions of people put it on the
burgers. LIKEWISE, billions of people like mcdonalds', which explains why
they have sold billions of burger's.


D

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Jul 23, 2009, 9:00:17 PM7/23/09
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If you are better than something you can't also be the same thing. For
example, if a blueberry pie is better than an apple pie, it can't be an
apple pie. I'm sure you get it now.

It's good advertising, I guess, but it would make people thing they
aren't serving food as fast, anymore.

d

D

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Jul 23, 2009, 9:01:41 PM7/23/09
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The MC DLT used to have mayo, right? IIRC, they were pretty good burgers!

d

JERRY

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Jul 24, 2009, 2:02:40 AM7/24/09
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"D" <inter...@gmail88.com> wrote in message
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> JERRY wrote:
> > "D" <inter...@gmail34.com> wrote in message
> > news:6f6dnRyaUuiwZvnX...@giganews.com...
> >> Pete C. wrote:
> >>
> >>> McDonald's has been in business all those years by being everywhere
and
> >>> by catering to hell spawn... er... kids. Both Burger King and Wendy's
> >>> have much better burgers.
> >> Did you catch that Wendy's "Better than fast food" thing? I guess they
> >> are trying to say they aren't fast food anymore.
> >>
> >> d
> >
> > Actually, Wendy's can both be better then other fast-food restourant's
yet
> > still be fast-food itself. So it's a true thing to say.
> >
> >
>
> If you are better than something you can't also be the same thing. For
> example, if a blueberry pie is better than an apple pie, it can't be an
> apple pie. I'm sure you get it now.

Wrong. The reason why a blueberry pie is not a apple pie is because
blueberry's aren't apple's.

BUT, Wendy's sells fast-food and mcdonald's sells fast-food. Irregardless
the fact that wendy's fast-food is better then Mcdonald's, fast food, they
are both fast-food.


Robert

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"D" <inter...@gmail44.com> wrote in message
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Implying Wendy's is no longer fast food will get jerry all worked up calling
you a lire then referring to you as another puppet of Steve's.

Robert


Robert

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Jul 24, 2009, 6:27:01 AM7/24/09
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"JERRY" <jerr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes you did, if he never had a gourmet burger how can he know what it taste
like. You said he would know the difference. No one will know the difference
unless they had tasted both to compare.

Robert


Robert

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"D" <inter...@gmail88.com> wrote in message
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Give it up Doug, He won't listen!


Robert

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Jul 24, 2009, 6:28:43 AM7/24/09
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"JERRY" <jerr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Their Doug, That's what I meant by you had it now!

Robert


D

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Jul 24, 2009, 7:58:26 PM7/24/09
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You are right except they don't word it that way. They even say they
are "way" better than fast food (not better than *other* fast food).
It's marketing, of course, but they are implying they are no longer a
fast food restaurant.

d

D

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Jul 24, 2009, 7:59:40 PM7/24/09
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I'm not anyone's puppet and I still think Wendy's is fast food. They
are just telling people there aren't because they are better.

d

D

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Jul 24, 2009, 8:00:36 PM7/24/09
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Why not? He seems reasonable and this is the forum to discuss these
subjects.

d

Robert

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Jul 24, 2009, 10:14:40 PM7/24/09
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"D" <inter...@gmail88.com> wrote in message
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Let the debate begin then.

Robert


Robert

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Jul 24, 2009, 10:13:14 PM7/24/09
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"D" <inter...@gmail88.com> wrote in message
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I agree with you but I had a very long conversation about the same subject
with him. He proclaimed victory closed the discussion then called me a troll
when I keep replying to the discussion and then he accused me of being
Steve.

Robert


Paco

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Jul 25, 2009, 12:35:44 AM7/25/09
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"Robert" <racemaildro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Who isn't "Steve"? The McCarthyism of A.F.F-F.

Paco

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Jul 25, 2009, 12:38:52 AM7/25/09
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"D" <inter...@gmail88.com> wrote in message
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"They are just telling people there aren't because they are better." Uh,
"Doug", that 'there' should be 'they'. Just sayin', Jerry, err, "Doug".

Paco

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Jul 25, 2009, 12:40:01 AM7/25/09
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"Robert" <racemaildro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Again. Fuck this shit.

Robert

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Jul 25, 2009, 4:44:14 AM7/25/09
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"Paco" <kiss_m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Some people just won't listen they have to experience it themselves!

Robert


Robert

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"Paco" <kiss_m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Steve is not Steve he is everybody else!

Robert


Paco

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Jul 25, 2009, 9:37:30 PM7/25/09
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"Robert" <racemaildro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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That must be the answer to 139,000 readers of this group. They are all
Steve!

D

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Jul 25, 2009, 9:50:47 PM7/25/09
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About Wendy's? It pretty straightforward stuff.

d

D

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Jul 25, 2009, 9:52:26 PM7/25/09
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Thanks. My grammar, at that time, was courtesy of Budweiser!

d

JERRY

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"Robert" <racemaildro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Most kindergartener's that I know, thier PARENTS feed them and drive them
around. I pray that your not a parent yourself since you seem to be unaware
of that fact.


JERRY

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"D" <inter...@gmail88.com> wrote in message
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no they aren't, at all. they arent implying anything. they are straight
out SAYING they are better then other fast-food restouarant's, which is a
thing most people agree with.


Omelet

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Jul 26, 2009, 10:45:31 AM7/26/09
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In article
<a2b53be5-3ab2-4cd9...@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Bobo Bonobo� <clas...@brick.net> wrote:

> On Jul 20, 8:37�am, "Pete C." <aux3.DO...@snet.net> wrote:
>
> > Of course going outside the fast food thing, Fudruckers does a
> > pretty good burger.
> >
> A very good burger.
>
> --Bryan

I love Fudruckers! I can dress the burger the way I want, and they let
me order it sans bun. ;-d
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

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Sqwertz

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Jul 26, 2009, 4:52:57 PM7/26/09
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:45:31 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> I love Fudruckers! I can dress the burger the way I want, and they let
> me order it sans bun. ;-d

How hard is it to remove the bun from an undressed burger? Take it
home and feed it to your barn animals of the day.

-sw

Sqwertz

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Jul 26, 2009, 4:58:45 PM7/26/09
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:08:46 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo� wrote:

> On Jul 20, 11:04�am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> But, I doubt Sauks jaded tastes would know a good burger if they tripped
>> over it. He's a junk food junkie.
>
> He is a sock puppet.

You don't know what a Sauk puppet is, do you.

>> Steve eats REAL food most of the time.
>
> Steve *is* "REAL." Jerry is a fictitious character.

And just what proof's do you have of this?

(I think Bobo feels rejected and needs some attention - just like
how Jerry started out).

-sw

Bob Muncie

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Jul 26, 2009, 5:37:24 PM7/26/09
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Steve - So if you poke him, does he not cry?

Equating him to something else other than just another Inet soul is
disrespectful. How would you like to be considered "someone's sock puppet"?

Be nice unless you need to be otherwise. That is my motto.

Your friend,

Bob

D

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Jul 26, 2009, 6:57:22 PM7/26/09
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JERRY wrote:

>>> BUT, Wendy's sells fast-food and mcdonald's sells fast-food.
> Irregardless
>>> the fact that wendy's fast-food is better then Mcdonald's, fast food,
> they
>>> are both fast-food.
>>>
>>>
>> You are right except they don't word it that way. They even say they
>> are "way" better than fast food (not better than *other* fast food).
>> It's marketing, of course, but they are implying they are no longer a
>> fast food restaurant.
>>
>> d
>
> no they aren't, at all. they arent implying anything. they are straight
> out SAYING they are better then other fast-food restouarant's, which is a
> thing most people agree with.
>
>

If that was true, they would say "Better than other fast food" but they
don't say that. Trust me, their marketing department and their
advertising firm chose their words very carefully.

d

Omelet

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Jul 26, 2009, 9:53:16 PM7/26/09
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In article <mcvhmd8ql0ef$.s...@sqwertz.com>,
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote:

Actually, Pauli the emu would enjoy that bun. :-)
So would the border collie.

I just prefer not to mess with it.

Paco

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"D" <inter...@gmail88.com> wrote in message

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> Paco wrote:
>>
>>
>> "D" <inter...@gmail88.com> wrote in message
>> news:vJadnTR-wqlq1_fX...@giganews.com...

>>>


>>> I'm not anyone's puppet and I still think Wendy's is fast food. They
>>> are just telling people there aren't because they are better.
>>>
>>> d
>>
>> "They are just telling people there aren't because they are better." Uh,
>> "Doug", that 'there' should be 'they'. Just sayin', Jerry, err, "Doug".
>
> Thanks. My grammar, at that time, was courtesy of Budweiser!
>
> d

Well, "Doug", it appears that you are new to Usenet. A word of advice.
Just like "Don't drink and drive." "Don't drink and post." People will
confuse you as being Jerry. Unless you ARE Jerry.

Paco

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"Robert" <racemaildro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Yeah. And we all suffer for it. Fuck this shit.

Paco

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"JERRY" <jerr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Just how many kindergarteners do you know? Hanging around schoolyards
again, shorteyes? Run out of 12 year old neighbor boys, pervert?

JERRY

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"D" <inter...@gmail88.com> wrote in message
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But, it doesnt prove that they are wrong to say "better then fast-food" and
yet they still are fast food. I ate at Wendy's today, and I had custom
order's, (no mayo) and they were EXTREMELY fast. And it tasted better then
other fast-food.

But you are correct, they very carefully don't say better then OTHER fast
food, not to say they aren't fast-food, but to cater to idiot's like YOU who
"refuse" to east fast-food just because it's fast food. So just as long as
you beliebe what you want to believe, FINE, as long as wend'ys gets thier
business from you, and I get my fast-food from them.


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