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pavane
Oct 3, 2012, 4:07:09 PM10/3/12
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"Susan" <su...@nothanks.org> wrote in message
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> The continuing saga of Freddy the Freeloader, permanent house guest of the
> feline persuasion.
>
> Started out grossly obese at 22 lbs (he's not otherwise a large cat),
> diabetic with a constantly heady shedding thick, dense, faded coat and
> weepy, inflamed eyes and flakey dander all over the place.
>
> On 2 u of insulin with 1/2 can twice daily of very high protein, very low
> carb grain free food, no more dry overnight, he's losing steadily. Down to
> 19.7 today. Even before this loss, his coat is no longer shedding much at
> all, no more flaking skin, no more drippineess, crud under his eyes, and
> his coat has a nice, smooth texture instead of being all dry, faded with
> gobs of his hair everywhere. He's more energetic, alert, affectionate,
> playful and still way too fat. This is going to take a while, because he
> needs to lose like another 4 lbs or so.
>
> Will recheck him with a day at the animal hospital at the end of the month
> or early November to see if he's in remission and can come off of insulin
> as expected, since we got him under control in record time, according to
> the vet.
I hope you have heard of http://www.felinediabetes.com/
which is one of the great support groups on the internet.
Ferguson and I were there in the early '90s, and learned
all we needed to know about the whole diabetes nightmare.
In fact, I found out that I was becoming diabetic by sticking
myself instead of her (very easy to do) and taking readings
on my blood just for the hell of it. Yeah.
That sounds like a wonderful set of results so far. Best luck.
pavane
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pavane
Oct 3, 2012, 4:51:53 PM10/3/12
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> How did you test your cat? I was told it's done on the ear, but have not
> been successful.
On the ear, trying to pierce that tiny little vein that runs the
circumfrence. I ended up with my left finger behind the vein
and trying to poke it *very gently* with the lancette in my
right hand. Delicate work. I was fortunate in that Ferguson
decided to tolerate the entire procedure, rarely rebelled
at the piercing and then the injecting indignities. It is not
funny to see your cat running away from you with a lancette
in her ear. Well, it is funny, but you can't show it.
If you take a little flashlight and hold it behind Freddy's ear
you should be able to see the vein. That is step 1. I did a lot
of rubbing and cuddling Ferguson's ear which seemed to
let her tolerate its being touched somewhat better. That is
step 2.
I would really urge you to look at the feline diabetes website.
It is well-run and has a very active forum on all of the complexities
of treating and dealing with the poor little animals. And it goes
all the way from first signs of diabetes through (sigh) the Rainbow
Bridge. Ferguson's picture is there somewhere.
Thanks for the memories, my eyes are teary right now. Ask more
if you wish, I can go on for hours. You are entering quite an
experience.
pavane
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>
> On 10/3/2012 4:07 PM, pavane wrote:
>
>> I hope you have heard of http://www.felinediabetes.com/
>> which is one of the great support groups on the internet.
>
> I haven't. But so far, so good.
> On 10/3/2012 4:07 PM, pavane wrote:
>
>> I hope you have heard of http://www.felinediabetes.com/
>> which is one of the great support groups on the internet.
>
>
>> Ferguson and I were there in the early '90s, and learned
>> all we needed to know about the whole diabetes nightmare.
>> In fact, I found out that I was becoming diabetic by sticking
>> myself instead of her (very easy to do) and taking readings
>> on my blood just for the hell of it. Yeah.
>>
>> That sounds like a wonderful set of results so far. Best luck.
>
> Thank you.
>> Ferguson and I were there in the early '90s, and learned
>> all we needed to know about the whole diabetes nightmare.
>> In fact, I found out that I was becoming diabetic by sticking
>> myself instead of her (very easy to do) and taking readings
>> on my blood just for the hell of it. Yeah.
>>
>> That sounds like a wonderful set of results so far. Best luck.
>
>
> How did you test your cat? I was told it's done on the ear, but have not
> been successful.
On the ear, trying to pierce that tiny little vein that runs the
circumfrence. I ended up with my left finger behind the vein
and trying to poke it *very gently* with the lancette in my
right hand. Delicate work. I was fortunate in that Ferguson
decided to tolerate the entire procedure, rarely rebelled
at the piercing and then the injecting indignities. It is not
funny to see your cat running away from you with a lancette
in her ear. Well, it is funny, but you can't show it.
If you take a little flashlight and hold it behind Freddy's ear
you should be able to see the vein. That is step 1. I did a lot
of rubbing and cuddling Ferguson's ear which seemed to
let her tolerate its being touched somewhat better. That is
step 2.
I would really urge you to look at the feline diabetes website.
It is well-run and has a very active forum on all of the complexities
of treating and dealing with the poor little animals. And it goes
all the way from first signs of diabetes through (sigh) the Rainbow
Bridge. Ferguson's picture is there somewhere.
Thanks for the memories, my eyes are teary right now. Ask more
if you wish, I can go on for hours. You are entering quite an
experience.
pavane
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Cheri
Oct 3, 2012, 7:13:15 PM10/3/12
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"Susan" <su...@nothanks.org> wrote in message
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>
> The continuing saga of Freddy the Freeloader, permanent house guest of the
> feline persuasion.
>
> Started out grossly obese at 22 lbs (he's not otherwise a large cat),
> diabetic with a constantly heady shedding thick, dense, faded coat and
> weepy, inflamed eyes and flakey dander all over the place.
>
> On 2 u of insulin with 1/2 can twice daily of very high protein, very low
> carb grain free food, no more dry overnight, he's losing steadily. Down to
> 19.7 today. Even before this loss, his coat is no longer shedding much at
> all, no more flaking skin, no more drippineess, crud under his eyes, and
> his coat has a nice, smooth texture instead of being all dry, faded with
> gobs of his hair everywhere. He's more energetic, alert, affectionate,
> playful and still way too fat. This is going to take a while, because he
> needs to lose like another 4 lbs or so.
>
> Will recheck him with a day at the animal hospital at the end of the month
> or early November to see if he's in remission and can come off of insulin
> as expected, since we got him under control in record time, according to
> the vet.
>
> Susan
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> The continuing saga of Freddy the Freeloader, permanent house guest of the
> feline persuasion.
>
> Started out grossly obese at 22 lbs (he's not otherwise a large cat),
> diabetic with a constantly heady shedding thick, dense, faded coat and
> weepy, inflamed eyes and flakey dander all over the place.
>
> On 2 u of insulin with 1/2 can twice daily of very high protein, very low
> carb grain free food, no more dry overnight, he's losing steadily. Down to
> 19.7 today. Even before this loss, his coat is no longer shedding much at
> all, no more flaking skin, no more drippineess, crud under his eyes, and
> his coat has a nice, smooth texture instead of being all dry, faded with
> gobs of his hair everywhere. He's more energetic, alert, affectionate,
> playful and still way too fat. This is going to take a while, because he
> needs to lose like another 4 lbs or so.
>
> Will recheck him with a day at the animal hospital at the end of the month
> or early November to see if he's in remission and can come off of insulin
> as expected, since we got him under control in record time, according to
> the vet.
>
That's great news Susan, kudos to you for your care of Freddie. I know he'll
beglad to come off the insulin too. :-)
Cheri
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Cheri
Oct 4, 2012, 1:26:00 AM10/4/12
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"Susan" <su...@nothanks.org> wrote in message
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> On 10/3/2012 7:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> That's great news Susan, kudos to you for your care of Freddie. I know
>> he'll beglad to come off the insulin too. :-)
>>
>>
> He no longer notices it, hardly anyway.
> On 10/3/2012 7:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> That's great news Susan, kudos to you for your care of Freddie. I know
>> he'll beglad to come off the insulin too. :-)
>>
>>
>
> I'm kind of hoping he'll lose weight better off of it, and maybe be less
> hungry. You should hear him eating.
>
> Susan
Speaking for myself, I was constantly starving when I was on Lantus for the
couple of months that I used it. I would think it would matter for Freddie's
appetite too.
Cheri
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Jean B.
Oct 13, 2012, 11:56:41 PM10/13/12
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Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> The continuing saga of Freddy the Freeloader, permanent house guest of
> the feline persuasion.
>
> Started out grossly obese at 22 lbs (he's not otherwise a large cat),
> diabetic with a constantly heady shedding thick, dense, faded coat and
> weepy, inflamed eyes and flakey dander all over the place.
>
> On 2 u of insulin with 1/2 can twice daily of very high protein, very
> low carb grain free food, no more dry overnight, he's losing steadily.
> Down to 19.7 today. Even before this loss, his coat is no longer
> shedding much at all, no more flaking skin, no more drippineess, crud
> under his eyes, and his coat has a nice, smooth texture instead of being
> all dry, faded with gobs of his hair everywhere. He's more energetic,
> alert, affectionate, playful and still way too fat. This is going to
> take a while, because he needs to lose like another 4 lbs or so.
>
> Will recheck him with a day at the animal hospital at the end of the
> month or early November to see if he's in remission and can come off of
> insulin as expected, since we got him under control in record time,
> according to the vet.
>
> Susan
>
Woohoo! Great!
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>
> The continuing saga of Freddy the Freeloader, permanent house guest of
> the feline persuasion.
>
> Started out grossly obese at 22 lbs (he's not otherwise a large cat),
> diabetic with a constantly heady shedding thick, dense, faded coat and
> weepy, inflamed eyes and flakey dander all over the place.
>
> On 2 u of insulin with 1/2 can twice daily of very high protein, very
> low carb grain free food, no more dry overnight, he's losing steadily.
> Down to 19.7 today. Even before this loss, his coat is no longer
> shedding much at all, no more flaking skin, no more drippineess, crud
> under his eyes, and his coat has a nice, smooth texture instead of being
> all dry, faded with gobs of his hair everywhere. He's more energetic,
> alert, affectionate, playful and still way too fat. This is going to
> take a while, because he needs to lose like another 4 lbs or so.
>
> Will recheck him with a day at the animal hospital at the end of the
> month or early November to see if he's in remission and can come off of
> insulin as expected, since we got him under control in record time,
> according to the vet.
>
> Susan
>
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