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Gaggia Coffee vs. Baby vs. Starbucks Barista???

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@hotmail.com persa

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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I want opinions here.
If yo had the chance to buy the three at the same price, which would you buy
?

Gaggia Coffee (not classic)
Gaggia Baby
Starbucks Barista (not stainless)

please give reasons why...


thanks!

Dan White

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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Many on this NG will, I'm sure, steer you toward the Gaggia
Baby because it has a 3-way solenoid valve the other two
don't have. I've never owned a machine with a 3-way
solenoid, so I can't comment on the utility or the
differences. I currently own and use both a Coffee and a
Barista. I use the Coffee at home and the Barista at the office.

Between the Coffee and the Barista, I would say buy the
Coffee given the price is the same. While both machines
appear to be constructed of heavy duty materials, the Coffee
has a portafilter that makes the Barista's pale. I believe
the Coffee consistently delivers a much, much better quality
shot than does the Barista.

All of this assumes an equally good grinder, by the way.

Good Luck.

@hotmail.com persa

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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I'm also considering the Krups Novo 3000... I know many people don't think t
hey can compare but it is half the price ($100).

Anyone have any experience with these vs the Gaggia Coffee?

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David Strom

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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I would go for the baby.

It is the most solid of the 3. It has the same internals as the classic,
including the 3 way solenoid valve (which neither of the other 2 have).

I have used the Barista and the Classic, and IMHO there is no comparison.
The Barista is an OK machine, but the Classic outclasses it. More steam
power, and better overall construction.
David

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James

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Mar 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/6/00
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I have a Gaggia Classic which i believe is very similar to the Baby. I have
also owned a Krups Uno (old) and let me tell you straight, the Krups is not in
the same league. Whether the 3000 is a good machine or not, i dont know. It
does look pretty cool with its stainless steal face. But hey, if you're after
looks, maybe the Silvia or Classic is the way to go. If however you're after a
good shot i think the Gaggia may be the way to go.


Al Shing

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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On this subject, I have an old Baby Gaggia that is probably on its last
legs. It has been in the shop a couple of times, and could probably be taken
back in for yet another refurbishing.

However, I am wondering if I would be better off retiring it and buying
either a Coffee Gaggia or a Gaggia Classic.

I can buy a new Coffee Gaggia locally for $299. However,
http://www.best-of-italy.com has the Gaggia Classic for $345. Locally, the
Classic is $449.

So, what is the best option - refurbishing the Baby, buying a Coffee Gaggia
locally, or buying a Gaggia Classic from Italy over the net?

Has anybody tried best-of-italy.com? How is their service? Their web site
says they were picked as a top shopping site by Newsweek and Business Week.

Al Shing

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David Leone

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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I think the Classic is identical to the Baby except that it has the cup
warmer - and one other small difference I can't remember, whereas the
Coffee is a lower grade machine than either Baby or Classic.

David

Antony Prince

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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In article <38D619CB...@home.com>, fdl...@home.com says...

> I think the Classic is identical to the Baby except that it has the cup
> warmer - and one other small difference I can't remember, whereas the
> Coffee is a lower grade machine than either Baby or Classic.
>
> David
>

I thought the only difference between the Coffee and the Classic Coffee
was the Classic had the 3-way valve and a nicer exterior.


Antony Prince
Manchester, UK

David Leone

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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Coffee's pump slightly less powerful (16 bar as opposed to 17.5 for
Classic) - no solenoid valve - turbo frother is plastic instead of
chrome plated brass - weighs 3 lbs. less (not sure why this matters just
thought I'd throw it in).

Here's a comparison chart for all the Gaggia's:
http://www.wholelattelove.com/forms/gaggia_comp.htm

David

Gaggia Dave

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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I think the best thing about the 3-way valve is the ability to
back flush the machine - but I haven't been able to do that since
I don't have a blind basket, which is another thing I have on my
wish list.

David L.

In article <MPG.1340d74d6...@news.demon.co.uk>,
Cof...@bloodmoon.deletethis.demon.co.uk (Antony Prince) wrote:
>In article <38D6AFD0...@home.com>, fdl...@home.com
says...


>> Coffee's pump slightly less powerful (16 bar as opposed to
17.5 for
>> Classic) - no solenoid valve - turbo frother is plastic
instead of
>> chrome plated brass - weighs 3 lbs. less (not sure why this
matters just
>> thought I'd throw it in).
>>
>

>Thanks for that :)
>
>I almost bought a Baby a few months back, but seeing as though I
did not
>have a decent grinder, I figured why blow all my budget on
*just* a
>machine, so I settled for the Coffee and MDF
>
>I almost wish I had the solenoid sometimes, as my Coffee tends
to dribble
>quite a lot :(
>
>
>
>Antony Prince
>Manchester, UK
>
>>
>
>


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D. Ross

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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David Leone <fdl...@home.com> wrote:

| Coffee's pump slightly less powerful (16 bar as opposed to 17.5 for
| Classic)

So they say. When I replaced the pump on a Coffee some years back I got a
Baby pump (complete with some extra electrical connections not used by the
Coffee) and could detect no difference at all in the operation.

| turbo frother is plastic instead of
| chrome plated brass

I have one of each, and the plastic is an improvement; the higher air hole
results in a creamier froth. Of course, one generally just removes the
froth tube altogether.

- David R.

Antony Prince

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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> Coffee's pump slightly less powerful (16 bar as opposed to 17.5 for
> Classic) - no solenoid valve - turbo frother is plastic instead of

Antony Prince

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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In article <38d6bab5...@robinson.math.hawaii.edu>,
ro...@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu says...

> When I replaced the pump on a Coffee some years back I got a
> Baby pump (complete with some extra electrical connections not used by the
> Coffee) and could detect no difference at all in the operation.
>

From where did you acquire the pump, Gaggia?

Antony Prince
Manchester, UK

D. Ross

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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Electra-craft, who is the authorized Gaggia repair depot in the US. Likely
they have a UK counterpart, though it is not certain they will deal with the
end user, the UK corporate model being what it is.

- David R.

Ken Wilson

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Mar 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/22/00
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Antony Prince wrote

>I almost wish I had the solenoid sometimes, as my Coffee tends to dribble
>quite a lot :(


So does mine - do you think its an age thing? or do i need descaling.

ken

(sorry)

enoughspam

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Mar 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/24/00
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Speaking of which, Where the hell does one acquire a blind basket for
a Gaggia anyway?
-Ed
In article <03fae1a0...@usw-ex0104-031.remarq.com>,

Gaggia Dave <fdleone...@home.com.invalid> wrote:
> I think the best thing about the 3-way valve is the ability to
> back flush the machine - but I haven't been able to do that since
> I don't have a blind basket, which is another thing I have on my
> wish list.
>
> David L.
>
> In article <MPG.1340d74d6...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> Cof...@bloodmoon.deletethis.demon.co.uk (Antony Prince) wrote:
> >In article <38D6AFD0...@home.com>, fdl...@home.com
> says...
> >> Coffee's pump slightly less powerful (16 bar as opposed to
> 17.5 for
> >> Classic) - no solenoid valve - turbo frother is plastic
> instead of
> >> chrome plated brass - weighs 3 lbs. less (not sure why this
> matters just
> >> thought I'd throw it in).
> >>
> >
> >Thanks for that :)
> >
> >I almost bought a Baby a few months back, but seeing as though I
> did not
> >have a decent grinder, I figured why blow all my budget on
> *just* a
> >machine, so I settled for the Coffee and MDF
> >
> >I almost wish I had the solenoid sometimes, as my Coffee tends
> to dribble
> >quite a lot :(
> >
> >
> >
> >Antony Prince
> >Manchester, UK
> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
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David Leone

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Mar 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/24/00
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Last time I spoke with Jim @ 1st-Line, I thought he said he had them -
also I'm assuming that Electra-Craft would have them.

David L.

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