I have been unemployed for 1 year. I am an IT person. Jobs in IT are hard to come by these days. And in particular being more on the mainframes, makes it that much more difficult to obtain gainful employment.
So, it is time for me to explore other types of employment to keep the banker, grocery store, insurance and oil companies happy.
20 years ago, when I was more inclined to stop in a bar for a couple, to shoot pool, shoot bull or meet woman, there was an individual that stopped by occasionally to sell his BBQ chicken wings. And people seemed to like them. I didn't, cause they were very salty, but others couldn't wait for the chicken wing guy to stop by.
From what I remember, he was able to use or rent facilities from some place having a commercial oven, avoiding the expense of property and large expensive equipment.
He carried the wings, wrapped in foil bags, in a hot box of some sort and would just stop by, pretty much when he felt like it. Nothing regular or scheduled. He would go around to other local taverns during the evening. He did this for years from what I was told. I no longer live around that area and no longer stop in bars often. This was in a metro area. And I am too.
To shorten things up a bit, I am looking for advice on what folks here think about such an endeavor, using spare ribs, chicken legs, pulled pork or brisket instead of wings. Not sure what I need to pay to get these at a wholesale price. Checked out babybacks and the few places I called, price for 30 LBS or so was not much cheaper than the grocery store. Heck, I think I could get them cheaper at SAMS club.
The main idea here is to BBQ something that could be sold for $2.00 or so and still allow me to make a profit. He sold his wings for $1.00 and they were packaged 3 wings to a bag. But this was 20 years ago.
Have at it folks. All advice, pro or con, is welcome. The immediate financial goal is to keep myself financially above water. Longer term goals are to be determined.
> I have been unemployed for 1 year. I am an IT person. Jobs in IT are > hard to come by these days. And in particular being more on the > mainframes, makes it that much more difficult to obtain gainful employment.
> So, it is time for me to explore other types of employment to keep the > banker, grocery store, insurance and oil companies happy.
> 20 years ago, when I was more inclined to stop in a bar for a couple, to > shoot pool, shoot bull or meet woman, there was an individual that > stopped by occasionally to sell his BBQ chicken wings. And people seemed > to like them. I didn't, cause they were very salty, but others couldn't > wait for the chicken wing guy to stop by.
> From what I remember, he was able to use or rent facilities from some > place having a commercial oven, avoiding the expense of property and > large expensive equipment.
> He carried the wings, wrapped in foil bags, in a hot box of some sort > and would just stop by, pretty much when he felt like it. Nothing > regular or scheduled. He would go around to other local taverns during > the evening. He did this for years from what I was told. I no longer > live around that area and no longer stop in bars often. This was in a > metro area. And I am too.
> To shorten things up a bit, I am looking for advice on what folks here > think about such an endeavor, using spare ribs, chicken legs, pulled > pork or brisket instead of wings. Not sure what I need to pay to get > these at a wholesale price. Checked out babybacks and the few places I > called, price for 30 LBS or so was not much cheaper than the grocery > store. Heck, I think I could get them cheaper at SAMS club.
> The main idea here is to BBQ something that could be sold for $2.00 or > so and still allow me to make a profit. He sold his wings for $1.00 and > they were packaged 3 wings to a bag. But this was 20 years ago.
> Have at it folks. All advice, pro or con, is welcome. The immediate > financial goal is to keep myself financially above water. Longer term > goals are to be determined.
I ain't tryin' to be mean in general, but you shoulda been looking for some sort of gainful employment about a year ago.
Sounds like you're in a jam right now and are needing a quick fix. Mama always told me the best place to go when you were broke was work.
The wings were a seller because there ain't much meat on 'em to fill a drinkin' man up, and they were OK with the bar because they were salty and caused customers to drink more.
What area of the country are you going to attempt this endeavor? Locale will have a large effect on what will sell in taverns.
I can't recommend anything, cause food ain't on my mind when I'm in a bar. It would have to be something unique and damn good to entice me away from my glass. Maybe Atomic Wolf turds®
> I ain't tryin' to be mean in general, but you shoulda been looking for some > sort of gainful employment about a year ago.
TFM, you ain't being mean. I been looking for gainful employment for the last year. But it has been geared toward the IT industry. Now, I need to start earning a check, regardless or my preferred industry.
> Sounds like you're in a jam right now and are needing a quick fix. Mama > always told me the best place to go when you were broke was work.
I am not in a jam, yet. I will be able to have housing and groceries for 6 months for sure and probably 9 months. The mortgage holder does not yet know my income is ZERO dollars. I am sure they don't even care, as long as the payment is made as it has been for a dozen years, on time.
> The wings were a seller because there ain't much meat on 'em to fill a > drinkin' man up, and they were OK with the bar because they were salty and > caused customers to drink more.
Exactly my thoughts. And my idea is to at least provide something a little more meaty.
> What area of the country are you going to attempt this endeavor? Locale > will have a large effect on what will sell in taverns.
I am in the upper midwest, Minnesota to be exact.
> I can't recommend anything, cause food ain't on my mind when I'm in a bar. > It would have to be something unique and damn good to entice me away from my > glass. Maybe Atomic Wolf turds®
It's not meant to be a meal per say. More like H'ordevoures(sp is bad on friday nights :-) or a snack.
> I have been unemployed for 1 year. I am an IT person. Jobs in IT are > hard to come by these days. And in particular being more on the > mainframes, makes it that much more difficult to obtain gainful employment.
Do you know how to run a news server? From my experience, BellSouth.net needs to hire someone that does!
bbq wrote in message ... >I have been unemployed for 1 year. I am an IT person. Jobs in IT are >hard to come by these days.
Yep, First Data Resources in Omaha, NE just laid off well over a hundred people. And Quest made cuts a few weeks ago.
>20 years ago, when I was more inclined to stop in a bar for a couple, to >shoot pool, shoot bull or meet woman, there was an individual that >stopped by occasionally to sell his BBQ chicken wings. And people seemed >to like them. I didn't, cause they were very salty, but others couldn't >wait for the chicken wing guy to stop by.
Here in Omaha, NE we have a PizzaGuy that visits bars all over town, I mean from one end to the other and we have alot of bars. He carries 2-3 pizzas in hot bag. Some times he makes a sale or two, and some times not. I guess this could actually be a cash business for him, so without taxes maybe he's making an income.
> From what I remember, he was able to use or rent facilities from some >place having a commercial oven, avoiding the expense of property and >large expensive equipment.
>He carried the wings, wrapped in foil bags, in a hot box of some sort >and would just stop by, pretty much when he felt like it. Nothing >regular or scheduled. He would go around to other local taverns during >the evening. He did this for years from what I was told. I no longer >live around that area and no longer stop in bars often. This was in a >metro area. And I am too.
>To shorten things up a bit, I am looking for advice on what folks here >think about such an endeavor, using spare ribs, chicken legs, pulled >pork or brisket instead of wings. Not sure what I need to pay to get >these at a wholesale price. Checked out babybacks and the few places I >called, price for 30 LBS or so was not much cheaper than the grocery >store. Heck, I think I could get them cheaper at SAMS club.
Hmm, what keeps better longer, what's more portable, and with what can you profit the most? How many bars would allow you to sell? Sorry, no answers here, just open thoughts.
>The main idea here is to BBQ something that could be sold for $2.00 or >so and still allow me to make a profit. He sold his wings for $1.00 and >they were packaged 3 wings to a bag. But this was 20 years ago.
Personally, I'd look to setup a sidewalk stand/wagon. One or two individuals make a killing in downtown Omaha, selling hotdogs, sausages, chips, and sodas. You might also consider catering parties, or seeing if the local food stores would allow you setup shop in the parking lot.
>Have at it folks. All advice, pro or con, is welcome. The immediate >financial goal is to keep myself financially above water. Longer term >goals are to be determined.
Ever think of relocating.......or retraining to the PC world? (yuck).
Answer me this......I was considering going to a computer school a while back to be certified in some field or another. It appears this would have been a waste of time and money. Where is the money in computers these days?
I enjoy building and repairing them. Is there a future in that, or am I stuck pounding nails the rest of my life?
The Fat Man®²°°³ wrote: > Answer me this......I was considering going to a computer school a while > back to be certified in some field or another. It appears this would have > been a waste of time and money.
A better way to describe it would be that you just missed getting on a plane that ended up flying into a mountain. I think you should be very comfortable with your decision.
> Where is the money in computers these days?
Security is at the top of the list. It's not an easy field, especially with the amount of competition. I specialized in it for several years and really didn't enjoy it because of it's inherently paranoid nature.
> I enjoy building and repairing them. Is there a future in that, or am I > stuck pounding nails the rest of my life?
Funny you should mention pounding nails. I have a friend that was laid off last year (after being promised by mgmt this would never happen). His carpentry skills saved him from foreclosure and now he's actually doing pretty well. Maybe carpentry and remodeling is stronger is the SF are than in your part of Florida.
I take it you've scoped out all the possibilites for moving up within your field (hiring a crew, etc) instead of switching altogether?
-- Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com
bbq wrote: > 20 years ago, when I was more inclined to stop in a bar for a couple, > to shoot pool, shoot bull or meet woman, there was an individual that > stopped by occasionally to sell his BBQ chicken wings. And people > seemed to like them. I didn't, cause they were very salty, but others > couldn't wait for the chicken wing guy to stop by.
20 years ago, that was prolly a good business enterprise but I doubt most taverns would let you do that now. They prolly have wings and ribs themselves. We won't even go into the health department issue with all their food handling & storage requirements. -- -frohe Life is too short to be in a hurry
>>I have been unemployed for 1 year. I am an IT person. Jobs in IT are >>hard to come by these days. And in particular being more on the >>mainframes, makes it that much more difficult to obtain gainful employment.
> Do you know how to run a news server? From my experience, BellSouth.net needs > to hire someone that does!
There are lots of companies that _need_ IT help, but none of them are hiring. They won't hire until the cost of providing poor service is a lot greater than the cost of fixing the problem.
Matthew (who has worked 7 weeks in the last 25 months)
> The main idea here is to BBQ something that could be sold for $2.00 or > so and still allow me to make a profit. He sold his wings for $1.00 and > they were packaged 3 wings to a bag. But this was 20 years ago.
I'm looking at this like you're going bar to bar with your wares. I'm also thinking "barroom" as a smoky place where people get drunk, a local tavern, a dive, whatever. To me that kind of environment and culture is a bit more "underground" than most establishments.
Anyway, wings is a good idea, but grilled chicken drumsticks would be better. You can take a bite out of one and still have some left. A buck apiece. Keep in mind that if it catches on, you'll experience a wave of popularity with your product before it becomes the same old shit.
Good Luck, I'm glad I engage in the 3rd oldest profession in the world which many times morphs into the 1st.
> Answer me this......I was considering going to a computer school a while > back to be certified in some field or another. It appears this would have > been a waste of time and money. > Where is the money in computers these days?
> I enjoy building and repairing them. Is there a future in that, or am I > stuck pounding nails the rest of my life?
TFM
Six years ago or so, I knew an individual that paid 5K to go to school for Computer repair. After completing courses took test to become A++ Certified. The job qualified him for a job at a Comp USA repair desk. About $10 per hour. Not good in my opinion. Where is a good place to start in the IT industry, I don't know. I suspect that you want to get away from the pounding nails, but also need to find something that you enjoy and could get you back to wages your accustomed to making, in a short time.
Good money can be made in network administration. But at this time, jobs are scarce. Will it bounce back? I certainly hope so, but do not when.
Around here there was a shortage of IT folks around 97 or so. Our wonderful leaders in Washington started letting immigrants come in and get these jobs. Sometimes, these folks were very minimally qualified and of course their ability to communicate clearly in english was also limited. Now there is a shortage of jobs and the folks I see unemployed are citizens. For some reason, the non-english speaking folks are still employed it appears to me.
If you are serious about building a resume with IT skills, I would suggest going to Comp USA and buying a book or books on becoming A++ certified. Study it, study it and study it again. Take the test and see what happens. I think you have enough knowledge of the makings and workings of PC's to be able to get through the test by studying the books and not going to classes at considerable cost. If this goes well consider going to school and get some training in networks. MSCE is a common certification people get. Cisco training is very good to, but also very expensive. You will need to find a job with the right company that is willing to spend some $$$ on training.
> Ever think of relocating.......or retraining to the PC world? (yuck).
I have some Unix training and experience, but it is limited. Relocating for a job in my area of expertise is highly unlikely. Both because I do not want to and an employer is not likely to offer enough to make it worth my while, even if there were a shortage of people.
>>> I have been unemployed for 1 year. I am an IT person. Jobs in IT are >>> hard to come by these days. And in particular being more on the >>> mainframes, makes it that much more difficult to obtain gainful >>> employment.
>> Do you know how to run a news server? From my experience, >> BellSouth.net needs >> to hire someone that does!
> There are lots of companies that _need_ IT help, but none of them are > hiring. They won't hire until the cost of providing poor service is a > lot greater than the cost of fixing the problem.
This is precisely what is happening at my former employer. Some new clown came in and implemented more hoops to get things done(with less people). Plus, nothing can be done without his approval.
There was a serious outage recently and he was on vacation. Without him around, the right people got involved immediately and the problems were fixed. If he had been around that day, it may have taken until the next day to get the issues resolved.
> Matthew (who has worked 7 weeks in the last 25 months)
bbq <b...@nospam.com> wrote in message <news:PZ96b.275188$Oz4.73215@rwcrnsc54>... > I have been unemployed for 1 year. I am an IT person. Jobs in IT are > hard to come by these days. And in particular being more on the > mainframes, makes it that much more difficult to obtain gainful employment.
> So, it is time for me to explore other types of employment to keep the > banker, grocery store, insurance and oil companies happy.
> 20 years ago, when I was more inclined to stop in a bar for a couple, to > shoot pool, shoot bull or meet woman, there was an individual that > stopped by occasionally to sell his BBQ chicken wings. And people seemed > to like them. I didn't, cause they were very salty, but others couldn't > wait for the chicken wing guy to stop by.
> From what I remember, he was able to use or rent facilities from some > place having a commercial oven, avoiding the expense of property and > large expensive equipment.
> He carried the wings, wrapped in foil bags, in a hot box of some sort > and would just stop by, pretty much when he felt like it. Nothing > regular or scheduled. He would go around to other local taverns during > the evening. He did this for years from what I was told. I no longer > live around that area and no longer stop in bars often. This was in a > metro area. And I am too.
> To shorten things up a bit, I am looking for advice on what folks here > think about such an endeavor, using spare ribs, chicken legs, pulled > pork or brisket instead of wings. Not sure what I need to pay to get > these at a wholesale price. Checked out babybacks and the few places I > called, price for 30 LBS or so was not much cheaper than the grocery > store. Heck, I think I could get them cheaper at SAMS club.
> The main idea here is to BBQ something that could be sold for $2.00 or > so and still allow me to make a profit. He sold his wings for $1.00 and > they were packaged 3 wings to a bag. But this was 20 years ago.
> Have at it folks. All advice, pro or con, is welcome. The immediate > financial goal is to keep myself financially above water. Longer term > goals are to be determined.
> Thank You
> Happy Q'en
> BBQ
I'd sell the house in Minnesota. TF cold up there. Take the proceeds, buy a ticket to Hawaii, and sell some Q. The tourist dollar is stronger, and folks are more receptive to buying edibles from some stranger bearing foil pouches of food. Get yourself a tan, a straw hat, and a guayabera shirt too. That should complete your marketing. Try and ditch the Minnesota accent, while you're at it. Practice some southern dialects. Louisiana(Cajun) comes to mind. Might friendly folks. A fiddle isn't necessary IMO. Let us know how Hawaii works out.
>> Ever think of relocating.......or retraining to the PC world? (yuck).
> I have some Unix training and experience, but it is limited. Relocating > for a job in my area of expertise is highly unlikely. Both because I do > not want to and an employer is not likely to offer enough to make it > worth my while, even if there were a shortage of people.
> Thanks for the suggestions,
> Happy Q'en
> BBQ >> Cheers, >> Jim
If you know unix it isn't that much of a stretch to make the leap to linux. A lot of servers are now running linux. I know a guy that sets up networks for small businesses and does their backups, maintenance and troubleshooting. No degree, just know how.
And if you are a computer nerd and you don't know pc's, well, that is just plain sad. I have never been employed as a comuter nerd and I have built my last three computers and have a network in my house. How hard can it be?
Good luck, be creative. I would go for the combination, sell them hot wings, ribs and pickled eggs. And troubleshoot their computer.
> Six years ago or so, I knew an individual that paid 5K to go to school > for Computer repair. After completing courses took test to become A++ > Certified. The job qualified him for a job at a Comp USA repair desk. > About $10 per hour. Not good in my opinion. > Where is a good place to start in the IT industry, I don't know. I > suspect that you want to get away from the pounding nails, but also need > to find something that you enjoy and could get you back to wages your > accustomed to making, in a short time.
No pain, no gain. $5K is cheap for school tuition. Compare that to medicine, law, or engineering/architecture, et al. Whaddya expect, $40k a year? On a certification?? Let's talk licensure and then you've got real paper.
> Good money can be made in network administration. But at this time, jobs > are scarce. Will it bounce back? I certainly hope so, but do not when.
I certainly hope so, too.
> Around here there was a shortage of IT folks around 97 or so. Our > wonderful leaders in Washington started letting immigrants come in and > get these jobs. Sometimes, these folks were very minimally qualified and > of course their ability to communicate clearly in english was also > limited. Now there is a shortage of jobs and the folks I see unemployed > are citizens. For some reason, the non-english speaking folks are still > employed it appears to me.
Maybe they work cheap. Ask your bosses why they still have jobs. Maybe they're good at what they do and work inexpensively. I've been active in employing people for 15 years and it's been my experience that you don't lay off the creme de la creme, unless they're wayyyy overpaid. A good businessman is going to cut the fat and get by with what will work best, the result of business decisions, not government. Overhead bad, profit good; nothing sinister there.
> If you are serious about building a resume with IT skills, I would > suggest going to Comp USA and buying a book or books on becoming A++ > certified. Study it, study it and study it again. Take the test and see > what happens. I think you have enough knowledge of the makings and > workings of PC's to be able to get through the test by studying the > books and not going to classes at considerable cost. If this goes well > consider going to school and get some training in networks. MSCE is a > common certification people get. Cisco training is very good to, but > also very expensive. You will need to find a job with the right company > that is willing to spend some $$$ on training.
You will not make good money without investing serious effort. If it looks easy, it's probably going to be short term.
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:35:59 GMT, bbq <b...@nospam.com> wrote: >I have been unemployed for 1 year. I am an IT person. Jobs in IT are >hard to come by these days. And in particular being more on the >mainframes, makes it that much more difficult to obtain gainful employment.
>So, it is time for me to explore other types of employment to keep the >banker, grocery store, insurance and oil companies happy.
>BBQ
I have read this whole unhappy thread through and am saddened at how many of you well trained folks are unemployed.
One year looking for work? Nobody needs that ego boosting trip.
I have two neighbours in IT - one is a large systems guy & works for the Big Blue. He is run off his feet and his boss has been looking "forever" to beef up the Department. My neighbour hopes it happens soon so that he can stand down from being constantly On Call . The other is self employed and running like crazy.
If my tech weenie wasn't a client, I'd have to kiss his ass in order to get emergency support - he's that busy.
Any computer guy worth anything can quickly find work here in Calgary.
FatMan - the best advice I've seen for you is suggesting you move to Western Canada. Bring your tool box, you'll be busy. The Okanagan Valley [BC]; the Kootenays BC], and the Crowsnest Path [AB] have suffered grievous fire damage. Calgary builders cannot keep up with demand. Journeymen write their own ticket.
Unemployment is not a familiar around concept here.
>>Six years ago or so, I knew an individual that paid 5K to go to school >>for Computer repair. After completing courses took test to become A++ >>Certified. The job qualified him for a job at a Comp USA repair desk. >>About $10 per hour. Not good in my opinion. >>Where is a good place to start in the IT industry, I don't know. I >>suspect that you want to get away from the pounding nails, but also need >>to find something that you enjoy and could get you back to wages your >>accustomed to making, in a short time.
> No pain, no gain. $5K is cheap for school tuition. Compare that to > medicine, law, or engineering/architecture, et al. Whaddya expect, $40k a > year? On a certification?? Let's talk licensure and then you've got real > paper.
Maybe 5K is cheap to you, but for the school I thought it was expensive. I attended the same type of school(Vo-tech) from 86-89 and it was about 1500 per year full-time, plus books. I attended part-time. Not expecting $40K for a repair technician, starting out, but hopefully $25 - $30K.
>>Good money can be made in network administration. But at this time, jobs >>are scarce. Will it bounce back? I certainly hope so, but do not when.
> I certainly hope so, too.
>>Around here there was a shortage of IT folks around 97 or so. Our >>wonderful leaders in Washington started letting immigrants come in and >>get these jobs. Sometimes, these folks were very minimally qualified and >>of course their ability to communicate clearly in english was also >>limited. Now there is a shortage of jobs and the folks I see unemployed >>are citizens. For some reason, the non-english speaking folks are still >>employed it appears to me.
> Maybe they work cheap. Ask your bosses why they still have jobs.
I currently do not have a boss to ask. Maybe
> they're good at what they do and work inexpensively.
My last job, do not know what others made. I guessed I was in the middle. Some made more for more experience and some made less for less experience.
I've been active in
> employing people for 15 years and it's been my experience that you don't lay > off the creme de la creme, unless they're wayyyy overpaid.
I worked for an organization that paid an individual above the pay range. He was very valuable. But when reorganizing came around, even though he probably was not at risk, he quit anyway.
A good
> businessman is going to cut the fat and get by with what will work best, the > result of business decisions, not government. Overhead bad, profit good; > nothing sinister there.
My last job, they brought in a hatchet man. And the hatchet man is making the division horrible to work in. So the better folks still there are now starting to leave. The CEO does not have a clue yet, cause the hatchet man reports everything is OK.
>>If you are serious about building a resume with IT skills, I would >>suggest going to Comp USA and buying a book or books on becoming A++ >>certified. Study it, study it and study it again. Take the test and see >>what happens. I think you have enough knowledge of the makings and >>workings of PC's to be able to get through the test by studying the >>books and not going to classes at considerable cost. If this goes well >>consider going to school and get some training in networks. MSCE is a >>common certification people get. Cisco training is very good to, but >>also very expensive. You will need to find a job with the right company >>that is willing to spend some $$$ on training.
> You will not make good money without investing serious effort. If it looks > easy, it's probably going to be short term.
Agreed. And my advice to TFM was to get the A++ certification and if it went well to continue getting schooling, until he is able to become employed at a wage he is comfortable with. I don't know what he makes as a framer, but I would guess he needs to be employed at a minimum of $30-35K to start a different line of work. I think this is possible in the network area of IT. But the IT industry for jobs needs to open up a bit.
> >I have been unemployed for 1 year. I am an IT person. Jobs in IT are > >hard to come by these days. And in particular being more on the > >mainframes, makes it that much more difficult to obtain gainful employment.
> >So, it is time for me to explore other types of employment to keep the > >banker, grocery store, insurance and oil companies happy.
> >BBQ
> I have read this whole unhappy thread through and am saddened at how > many of you well trained folks are unemployed.
> One year looking for work? Nobody needs that ego boosting trip.
> I have two neighbours in IT - one is a large systems guy & works for > the Big Blue. He is run off his feet and his boss has been looking > "forever" to beef up the Department. My neighbour hopes it happens > soon so that he can stand down from being constantly On Call . The > other is self employed and running like crazy.
> If my tech weenie wasn't a client, I'd have to kiss his ass in order > to get emergency support - he's that busy.
> Any computer guy worth anything can quickly find work here in > Calgary.
> FatMan - the best advice I've seen for you is suggesting you move to > Western Canada. Bring your tool box, you'll be busy. The Okanagan > Valley [BC]; the Kootenays BC], and the Crowsnest Path [AB] have > suffered grievous fire damage. Calgary builders cannot keep up with > demand. Journeymen write their own ticket.
> Unemployment is not a familiar around concept here.
>>I have been unemployed for 1 year. I am an IT person. Jobs in IT are >>hard to come by these days. And in particular being more on the >>mainframes, makes it that much more difficult to obtain gainful employment.
>>So, it is time for me to explore other types of employment to keep the >>banker, grocery store, insurance and oil companies happy.
>>20 years ago, when I was more inclined to stop in a bar for a couple, to >>shoot pool, shoot bull or meet woman, there was an individual that >>stopped by occasionally to sell his BBQ chicken wings. And people seemed >>to like them. I didn't, cause they were very salty, but others couldn't >>wait for the chicken wing guy to stop by.
>> From what I remember, he was able to use or rent facilities from some >>place having a commercial oven, avoiding the expense of property and >>large expensive equipment.
>>He carried the wings, wrapped in foil bags, in a hot box of some sort >>and would just stop by, pretty much when he felt like it. Nothing >>regular or scheduled. He would go around to other local taverns during >>the evening. He did this for years from what I was told. I no longer >>live around that area and no longer stop in bars often. This was in a >>metro area. And I am too.
>>To shorten things up a bit, I am looking for advice on what folks here >>think about such an endeavor, using spare ribs, chicken legs, pulled >>pork or brisket instead of wings. Not sure what I need to pay to get >>these at a wholesale price. Checked out babybacks and the few places I >>called, price for 30 LBS or so was not much cheaper than the grocery >>store. Heck, I think I could get them cheaper at SAMS club.
>>The main idea here is to BBQ something that could be sold for $2.00 or >>so and still allow me to make a profit. He sold his wings for $1.00 and >>they were packaged 3 wings to a bag. But this was 20 years ago.
>>Have at it folks. All advice, pro or con, is welcome. The immediate >>financial goal is to keep myself financially above water. Longer term >>goals are to be determined.
>>Thank You
>>Happy Q'en
>>BBQ
> I'd sell the house in Minnesota. TF cold up there. Take the proceeds, > buy a ticket to Hawaii, and sell some Q. The tourist dollar is > stronger, and folks are more receptive to buying edibles from some > stranger bearing foil pouches of food. > Get yourself a tan, a straw hat, and a guayabera shirt too. That > should complete your marketing. Try and ditch the Minnesota accent, > while you're at it. Practice some southern dialects. > Louisiana(Cajun) comes to mind. Might friendly folks. A fiddle isn't > necessary IMO. > Let us know how Hawaii works out.
Sure sound nice. I spent a week there in 98 and sure enjoyed it, even though I had to work during the day. Evenings were mine for the most part.
But on the serious side, I would expect housing to be much more expensive than I am comfortable with. Also not sure how to develop a Louisiana accent in Hawaii. Spent 8 years in CA and when I returned for visits, was told I had an accent. Don't hear that any more. Been back over 20 years.
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