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Robin Garr

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Feb 25, 1994, 4:48:16 PM2/25/94
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I used to know a fella from upstate New York (Troy, Ithaca, one of those
places with classical names) who drank this odd mix. Never saw it done
anywhere else, though, and I've traveled quite a bit.

Beer and lemonade, however, is popular among the Brits, who call it a
shandy, trimmed from shandygaff.


Tom Havey

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Feb 25, 1994, 1:28:49 PM2/25/94
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It's a good hang-over cure, with a bit of tabasco also!!
Also a good way to drink cheap beer.

Tom


Rich Harrington

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Feb 25, 1994, 2:58:06 PM2/25/94
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Darek Pullin (cca...@jazz.concert.net) wrote:
: In most parts of the world, it is known as a Red Eye. Great for morning
: hangovers, clogged bowels, or a daily dose of vitamin nutrients.

In Dayton Duncan's book _Out West_ he tells of how he first
encountered this drink in Nebraska, and called them Red Ones.
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Scott Lowrey

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Feb 25, 1994, 5:02:40 PM2/25/94
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ph...@cc.usu.edu wrote:
> Ewww, yuck!
> (disgusting and ruin of good beer)

Cut loose, Phil. Get out of Utah now and then. It's pretty hard to even
GET a mixed drink there.

And isn't "Ewww" one of those high-school-girl expressions?

If you can drink the traditional snit with a Bloody Mary, you can drink
beer and tomato juice.

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Geoffrey Spear

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Feb 26, 1994, 8:20:57 AM2/26/94
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ph...@cc.usu.edu writes:

> Ewww, yuck! I know that people (often young girls) mix beer with tomato juice
> because they do not like the taste and it is easier for them to drink. I
> would never try it (disgusting and ruin of good beer). I would also doubt that
> anywhere the favorite drink could be beer with tomato juice!

sounds more like a waste of good tomato juice to me.

everything goes well with vodka.

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Hawken Thomas B

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Feb 25, 1994, 10:57:07 PM2/25/94
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usai...@mmm.com (Scott Lowrey) writes:

>ph...@cc.usu.edu wrote:
>> Ewww, yuck!
>> (disgusting and ruin of good beer)

>Cut loose, Phil. Get out of Utah now and then. It's pretty hard to even
>GET a mixed drink there.

Way I heard it it is impossible to get A DRINK of any kind there... all those
Mormons and all...


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James Hursey

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Feb 25, 1994, 4:10:37 PM2/25/94
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In article <2kkr9n$r...@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> pac...@fermi.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
>From: pac...@fermi.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
>Subject: Beer and tomato juice?
>Date: 25 Feb 1994 12:35:03 GMT

>Somebody told me that in some parts of California, a favorite
>drink consists of beer mixed with tomato juice. True?

I dont know about now, but i can remember drinking that combination some 40
years ago. Seems to me there was a bit of a fad then among young people. Wasnt
bad, as I remember it. However, now being older and wiser, not to say more
solvent, I prefer good Scotch and fine wine.

Darwin Breland

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Feb 25, 1994, 3:00:31 PM2/25/94
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In article <2kkr9n$r...@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> pac...@fermi.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
>Somebody told me that in some parts of California, a favorite
>drink consists of beer mixed with tomato juice. True?
>
It's called, aproppriatley enough, Red-Beer, and is popular
with the ladies in Texas also. It allegedly eases the impact
on both mind and stomach.

TEX


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Feb 25, 1994, 11:26:22 AM2/25/94
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In article <2kkr9n$r...@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov>, pac...@fermi.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
> Somebody told me that in some parts of California, a favorite
> drink consists of beer mixed with tomato juice. True?
Ewww, yuck! I know that people (often young girls) mix beer with tomato juice
because they do not like the taste and it is easier for them to drink. I
would never try it (disgusting and ruin of good beer). I would also doubt that
anywhere the favorite drink could be beer with tomato juice!
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Darek Pullin

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Feb 25, 1994, 11:10:06 AM2/25/94
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In most parts of the world, it is known as a Red Eye. Great for morning
hangovers, clogged bowels, or a daily dose of vitamin nutrients.

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Barbara Hamel

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Feb 25, 1994, 6:36:29 PM2/25/94
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In a previous article, rg...@iglou.iglou.com (Robin Garr) says:

>Beer and lemonade, however, is popular among the Brits, who call it a
>shandy, trimmed from shandygaff.

Isn't it beer and gingerale that makes up a shandy?

Barbara "likes her beer with beer" Hamel
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Thomas G. Albright

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Feb 25, 1994, 10:59:45 AM2/25/94
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In article <2kkr9n$r...@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> pac...@fermi.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
>Somebody told me that in some parts of California, a favorite
>drink consists of beer mixed with tomato juice. True?
>

Pretty common in Wisconsin too. Hoosiers never heard of it though.

-Tom Albright
alb...@ucs.indiana.edu

Charles Packer

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Ken McNair

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Feb 25, 1994, 3:58:27 PM2/25/94
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When I were a lad, the girls used to put lime juice in their beer
to make it "more" (surely not ..ed) palatable - lager 'n lime (yukk)

Hawken Thomas B

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Feb 25, 1994, 12:34:52 PM2/25/94
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Darek Pullin <cca...@jazz.concert.net> writes:

>In most parts of the world, it is known as a Red Eye. Great for morning
>hangovers, clogged bowels, or a daily dose of vitamin nutrients.

Isn't a Red Eye beer and clamato juice? We always just say "beer and clam"
but I have heard it called a Red Eye too.

Val Shanahan

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Feb 25, 1994, 10:40:07 AM2/25/94
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I don't know about Calif., but I started drinking beer and tomato juice
while I still lived in Missouri and still drink it sometimes here in
Colorado, even had it in Ohio.

Val


rldawson on BIX

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Feb 27, 1994, 4:22:16 PM2/27/94
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Johann...@smtp.esl.com (Big O) writes:

>(Charles Packer) wrote:

>> Somebody told me that in some parts of California, a favorite
>> drink consists of beer mixed with tomato juice. True?

>It's great the morning after helping to drain the keg. And it isn't just
>limited to CA. When I was at the Univ. of New Mexico in the early 70's the
> locals call it "A Red One".


>Johann...@smtp.esl.com
I'll second that. Here in Texas we prefer spicy V-8 juice or
'Snap e Tom. For a while there was something called a 'BullShot'
that was a combination of beef bullion, tomato juice and beer/vodka.
Randy_...@bix.com

Linda Richards

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Feb 27, 1994, 9:47:24 PM2/27/94
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> Tom Havey writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <CLsM0...@boi.hp.com>
> References: <2kl64n$4...@ncar.ucar.edu>
> Posted: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 18:28:4
>
> Org. : Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho

>
>
>
> It's a good hang-over cure, with a bit of tabasco also!!
> Also a good way to drink cheap beer.
>
> Tom
>
>


We don't have this last problem in Canada.
We don't have cheap beer.


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bill nelson

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Feb 28, 1994, 3:56:00 AM2/28/94
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Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:
:
: We don't have this last problem in Canada.

: We don't have cheap beer.

True. But much of it is lousy - just like much of the US made stuff
that we call beer.

Bill "Homebrewer" Nelson

Steve Atkins

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Feb 28, 1994, 7:03:02 AM2/28/94
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In article <1994Feb25.2...@iglou.com>, rg...@iglou.iglou.com (Robin Garr) writes:
...

|>
|> Beer and lemonade, however, is popular among the Brits, who call it a
|> shandy, trimmed from shandygaff.
|>
I never knew shandy was an abbreviation, amazing what you find here....

A less common variant is ale and ginger-beer, a very pleasant, light drink.

Steve

Craig Adams

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Feb 28, 1994, 7:18:00 AM2/28/94
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>>Somebody told me that in some parts of California, a favorite
>>drink consists of beer mixed with tomato juice. True?

JH>I dont know about now, but i can remember drinking that combination some 40
JH>years ago. Seems to me there was a bit of a fad then among young people. Was
JH>bad, as I remember it. However, now being older and wiser, not to say more
JH>solvent, I prefer good Scotch and fine wine.

Bet it doesn't taste as good as beer & tomato!

hee hee: CJA

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Tim A. Dowd

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Feb 28, 1994, 10:10:57 AM2/28/94
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In article <39...@mindlink.bc.ca> Linda Richards,

Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca writes:
> We don't have this last problem in Canada.
> We don't have cheap beer.

So, you want we should send you some? It'll be in white cans with the
word "BEER" printed on 'em in black. And anyways, I think you mean that
you don't have inexpensive beer. Even the cheap stuff is expensive in
Canadia.

ObUL: Some fish-and-game head weenie in Canada was trying to plug one
of the lakes (Medicine lake?) so the fishing would be better when he
retired, but they found out and he got in trouble and stuff.

ObBeer&Tomato: I already voted by email (it's a Beer Crime in Cafilnora).

Tim "Big Rock beers be Good Stuff(tm), though." Dowd

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Thomas O'Donnell

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Feb 28, 1994, 10:24:35 AM2/28/94
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This would be the well known Red Eye enema?

Tom " a loose interpretation" O'Donnell
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[newsgroups trimmed, sorry]

In article <1994Feb25.1...@cc.usu.edu> , ph...@cc.usu.edu writes:
> Ewww, yuck! I know that people (often young girls) mix beer with tomato
juice
> because they do not like the taste and it is easier for them to drink.

At last someone has come up with a legitimate reason for this mix:
to make tomato juice palatable.

Hmmm. No, no, still doesn't work. Never mind.

ObUL: People commited suicide after/during the last round of layoffs here
at LMSC (when enough people were laid off to invoke the WARN act, forcing
the company to give two months notice). Various versions include in the
parking lot and at home.

Tim "I _still_ say it's a beer crime." Dowd

Ken McNair

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Feb 28, 1994, 12:47:00 PM2/28/94
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In article <jwhursey.1...@cd.columbus.oh.us>,
^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
which solvent ? what mixed ?

Ewww, yuck!

Henry Troup

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Feb 28, 1994, 2:58:57 PM2/28/94
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In article <2knk1n$i...@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>, fe...@cc.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld) writes:
|>
|> Beer mixed with tomato juice was a standard university drink in Canada
|> in the early 60s. Knowing no better, we called it "shandy"; and,
|> knowing no better, we drank a lot of it.

"redeye". Try V8, BTW.

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Bob McQueer

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Feb 28, 1994, 3:00:51 PM2/28/94
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In <1994Feb25.2...@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>,
dated Fri, 25 Feb 1994 20:00:31 GMT,

brel...@mot.com (Darwin Breland) writes:
> In article <2kkr9n$r...@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> pac...@fermi.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
> >Somebody told me that in some parts of California, a favorite
> >drink consists of beer mixed with tomato juice. True?
> >
> It's called, aproppriatley enough, Red-Beer, and is popular
> with the ladies in Texas also. It allegedly eases the impact
> on both mind and stomach.

I saw this stuff a couple decades ago in West Virginia, also called "Red
Beer". I was just visiting (I lived another state north in Pa. at the
time), but my impression was that it was rather popular in blue collar
type bars. Must have been fairly regional, because it was unknown in
bars of similar ilk up in Pa. (that was "a shot and a beer" territory).
Sounds like it has surfaced elsewhere, and gone somewhat upscale. Same
principal as drinking a bloody mary for breakfast, I guess. Personally,
I don't care that much for tomato juice, spiked or unspiked.

At least it's better than putting a raw egg in your beer - I've actually
seen somebody do this a couple of times. Bleh! I think that was popular
MANY years back - the couple of times I've seen the practice, it was
being done by old-timers. And there is an old saying about "what do you
want - egg in your beer?".

John Simutis

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Feb 28, 1994, 3:20:29 PM2/28/94
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I've had beer and tomato juice; not too bad.

My father tells me of a drink _he_ had in the 40's - called
a 'Cincinnati' - beer and root-beer. This was around Chicago
and East Chicago, Indiana.

Not sure I want to explore that one.

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Linda Richards

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Feb 28, 1994, 3:43:35 PM2/28/94
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> bill nelson writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <1994Feb28.0...@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>
> References: <39...@mindlink.bc.ca>
> Posted: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 08:56:0
>
> Org. : Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

>
> Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:
> :
> : We don't have this last problem in Canada.
> : We don't have cheap beer.
>
> True. But much of it is lousy - just like much of the US made stuff
> that we call beer.
>

Oh-ho! Now you've gone too far. Canadian beer *rocks*, I tell you. Canadian
beer is far superior to the yellow swill that passes for beer south of our
frozen borders.

Linda "harumph!" Richards

Paul Tomblin

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Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:

>> bill nelson writes:
>> Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:
>> :
>> : We don't have this last problem in Canada.
>> : We don't have cheap beer.
>>
>> True. But much of it is lousy - just like much of the US made stuff
>> that we call beer.
>>

>Oh-ho! Now you've gone too far. Canadian beer *rocks*, I tell you. Canadian
>beer is far superior to the yellow swill that passes for beer south of our
>frozen borders.

True - to the uncultured palete of a "store bought beer" type person. But to
a homebrewer like Bill or myself, or somebody who only buys microbrewery beer
if they buy beer at all, *much* of the store bought stuff is plain lousy - on
both sides of the border.

BTW: Anybody know where I can buy some Old Peculier in Ottawa?

Paul "Will buy Theakston's OP, Hart, or Upper Canada instead of food" Tomblin
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Sharen A. Rund

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Feb 28, 1994, 8:39:05 PM2/28/94
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Charles Packer (pac...@fermi.gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: Somebody told me that in some parts of California, a favorite

: drink consists of beer mixed with tomato juice. True?

yep - this is true - originally (yep, originally) called a
Bloody Mary this combo lost out to vodka & tom juice

its usually called a red eye nowdays

great way to start off the morning after the night before

..along with a couple of eggs over easy, rare steak & hash browns
or fried potatoes.....

I still like it every now & then - and, if I'm out of straight tom juice,
well then, V8, or clamato, or the zesty one (_NOT_ a bloody mary mix!!!!)
will do very well....

now, when I was little I used to like watching my Dad pour a beer into
a pilsner glass, crack a raw egg in it, add some salt & pepper on top &
drink - we all watched as he downed the yolk!!!!

I still

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In article <1994Feb28.2...@pony.Ingres.COM> bo...@Ingres.COM (Bob McQueer) writes:
>I saw this stuff a couple decades ago in West Virginia, also called "Red
>Beer". I was just visiting (I lived another state north in Pa. at the
>time), but my impression was that it was rather popular in blue collar
>type bars. Must have been fairly regional, because it was unknown in
^^^^^^^^

>bars of similar ilk up in Pa. (that was "a shot and a beer" territory).
>Sounds like it has surfaced elsewhere, and gone somewhat upscale.
^^^^^^^^

Regional? Let's see. Anyone that has even partially followed this
thread has seen posts from all over the U.S., and (I think) at least one
other country.

Surfaced? I first tired a "Red Beer" in Kansas in the mid '70's. It
was old hat then, and, based on the testimony of several posters, old
hat in other "regions."

Let's at least pretend we wade through 394 postings/day.

Bob Hiebert

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bill nelson

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Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:
: > : We don't have this last problem in Canada.
: > : We don't have cheap beer.
: >
: > True. But much of it is lousy - just like much of the US made stuff
: > that we call beer.
:
: Oh-ho! Now you've gone too far. Canadian beer *rocks*, I tell you. Canadian
: beer is far superior to the yellow swill that passes for beer south of our
: frozen borders.

Which only means that it is a little better piss than the US variety.

Bill "Now, Spinnaker Stout - that is a brew" Nelson

William VanHorne

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In article <ab401.762472038@freenet>,
Paul Tomblin <ab...@freenet.carleton.ca> wrote:

>BTW: Anybody know where I can buy some Old Peculier in Ottawa?

Well, you could .....

No, I can't. That's so good a straight line that it should stand on its
own and simply be admired.

---Bill "Yeah, well *you* try to write straight lines that good" VanHorne

Darek Pullin

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In article <CLxxH...@lehman.com> Thomas O'Donnell,

todo...@shearson.com writes:
>This would be the well known Red Eye enema?

A flushing of sorts, yes.

Scott Lowrey

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John Simutis (sim...@Ingres.COM) wrote:
> My father tells me of a drink _he_ had in the 40's - called
> a 'Cincinnati' - beer and root-beer. This was around Chicago
> and East Chicago, Indiana.

Holy Cow. You mean you've never had a Root Beer Barrel? They're pretty
good. Most of the bars I've been to serve them: a near-full glass of beer
with a shot glass full of root beer floating on top.

You have to "slam" it, drinking the entire beer and the contents of the
shot glass at the same time. After burping, you'd swear all you drank was
root beer - virtually no trace of regular beer taste.

Quite the novelty!

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Ken McNair

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Mar 1, 1994, 11:56:33 AM3/1/94
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In article <ab401.762472038@freenet>, ab...@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul

Tomblin) writes:
|>Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:
|>>> bill nelson writes:
|>>> Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:
|>>> :
|>>> : We don't have this last problem in Canada.
|>>> : We don't have cheap beer.
|>>>
|>>> True. But much of it is lousy - just like much of the US made stuff
|>>> that we call beer.
|>>>
|>
|>>Oh-ho! Now you've gone too far. Canadian beer *rocks*, I tell you. Canadian
|>>beer is far superior to the yellow swill that passes for beer south of our
|>>frozen borders.
|>
|>True - to the uncultured palete of a "store bought beer" type person.
But to
|>a homebrewer like Bill or myself, or somebody who only buys
microbrewery beer
|>if they buy beer at all, *much* of the store bought stuff is plain
lousy - on
|>both sides of the border.
|>
|>BTW: Anybody know where I can buy some Old Peculier in Ottawa?
|>
|>Paul "Will buy Theakston's OP, Hart, or Upper Canada instead of food" Tomblin
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Old Peculier, get it while you can !
Old Peculier, you'll be a better man !
It's the greatest thing, since the world began !
Try a drop of OP, and you'll feel grand !
Na na na naaa naaa naaa"

(chorus to a folk song, of which I can't remember the verses)



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Linda Richards

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> Paul Tomblin writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <ab401.762472038@freenet>
> References: <39...@mindlink.bc.ca>
> Posted: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 21:47:1
>
> Org. : Tomblin Computer Consulting, Ottawa, Ontario

>
> Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:
> >> bill nelson writes:
> >> Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:
> >> :
> >> : We don't have this last problem in Canada.
> >> : We don't have cheap beer.
> >>
> >> True. But much of it is lousy - just like much of the US made stuff
> >> that we call beer.
> >>
>
> >Oh-ho! Now you've gone too far. Canadian beer *rocks*, I tell you.
> Canadian
> >beer is far superior to the yellow swill that passes for beer south of our
> >frozen borders.
>
> True - to the uncultured palete of a "store bought beer" type person. But
> to
> a homebrewer like Bill or myself, or somebody who only buys microbrewery
> beer
> if they buy beer at all, *much* of the store bought stuff is plain lousy -
> on
> both sides of the border.
>

Exactly right: my uncultured tastebuds couldn't stand up to those of cultured
homebrewers like yourselves.

Linda "do you start with those little packages or step all over the hops with
your bare feet?" Richards

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Paul Tomblin

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usai...@mmm.com (Scott Lowrey) writes:

>You have to "slam" it, drinking the entire beer and the contents of the
>shot glass at the same time. After burping, you'd swear all you drank was
>root beer - virtually no trace of regular beer taste.

I could see how, with American beer, that would be considered a plus.

Paul "All the rice, and half the taste of our regular beer" Tomblin

Chris Jones

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Hmmm, this has sorted my head out some what! I observed this in Jackson Hole (?)
about 3 yrs ago. NO ONE HAS EVER BELEIVED ME OVER HERE.
What does is taste like?
(Tomatoes in beer?)
How did it start ?

Chrisj

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Christopher Choukalas

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mcn...@nneph114.BNR.CA (Ken McNair) writes:

>Ewww, yuck!
>
>>>I've never heard of that, but after a night of heavy beer drinking,
drinking tomato juice is supposed to help a hangover. Someone said
tomatoe (sorry mr. Quayle) tomato juice has a lot of glucose in it,
something beer must burn or remove. Anyway, that's the story.

Chris, Master of all that is Led

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cfb103

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Mar 1, 1994, 8:09:14 PM3/1/94
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In article <2l0lsq...@news.gac.edu>, ccho...@hermes.gac.edu (Christopher
Choukalas) says:

(lots of tomato juice and beer stories deleted)

>>>>I've never heard of that, but after a night of heavy beer drinking,
>drinking tomato juice is supposed to help a hangover. Someone said
>tomatoe (sorry mr. Quayle) tomato juice has a lot of glucose in it,
>something beer must burn or remove. Anyway, that's the story.

_I_ certainly wouldn't recommend it. Tomato juice is quite acidic, which (for
whatever reason) is bad for you when you have a hangover. Stick to water,
aspirin, and maybe some vitamins.

-Josh "I feel like Alex Stone..." Munn

Eponymous

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Mar 2, 1994, 10:11:37 AM3/2/94
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ab...@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Tomblin) writes:

[snip]

>I could see how, with American beer, that would be considered a plus.

>Paul "All the rice, and half the taste of our regular beer" Tomblin
>--
>Paul Tomblin - snide Canadian.

Snide, indeed.

ObBeerUL: The horse on the Rolling Rock beer label is the source
of the "secret ingredient".

Brett "I was told I wouldn't have to do Canadian/American beer
flames here" Grimes

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Scott Lowrey

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Mar 2, 1994, 11:31:21 AM3/2/94
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Paul Tomblin (ab...@freenet.carleton.ca) wrote:
> usai...@mmm.com (Scott Lowrey) writes:

> >You have to "slam" it, drinking the entire beer and the contents of the
> >shot glass at the same time. After burping, you'd swear all you drank was
> >root beer - virtually no trace of regular beer taste.

> I could see how, with American beer, that would be considered a plus.

Yup. A little root beer can only enhance the taste of your garden-variety
American skunk piss. This recipe should probably not be applied to the
more flavorful brews.

Incidentally, for the anti-American-beer bigots out there, be reminded that
every beer-brewing country on the planet makes at least one sucky beer,
including yours.

Paul Pantera

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Mar 2, 1994, 1:48:29 PM3/2/94
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A friend of mine invented (?) a drink called "strip and go naked." It is equal
parts of beer and lemonade (say 6 oz. of each) and a shot of vodka. It is
good - easy to drink. Girls seem to love them.

He invented it one night in a hot tub. He was trying to decide what to call it,
and someone asked "well, how does it make you feel?"

-Paul

Ignasi Palou-Rivera

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Mar 2, 1994, 3:50:18 PM3/2/94
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usai...@mmm.com (Scott Lowrey) writes:

> Incidentally, for the anti-American-beer bigots out there, be
> reminded that every beer-brewing country on the planet makes at
> least one sucky beer, including yours.

Let me say even more: in a majority of beer-brewing countries most of
the consumed beer is pretty bland. Some exceptions may be the Czech
Rep and Ireland.

ObBeerUL: Some people think that imported beer should taste skunked.

Ignasi "it's the rice" Palou
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Ted Krueger

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Mar 2, 1994, 5:39:27 PM3/2/94
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In article <1994Feb25.1...@cc.usu.edu> ph...@cc.usu.edu writes:

>In article <2kkr9n$r...@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov>, pac...@fermi.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
>> Somebody told me that in some parts of California, a favorite
>> drink consists of beer mixed with tomato juice. True?
>Ewww, yuck! I know that people (often young girls) mix beer with tomato juice
>because they do not like the taste and it is easier for them to drink. I
>would never try it (disgusting and ruin of good beer). I would also doubt that
>anywhere the favorite drink could be beer with tomato juice!

You don't do it with good beer!

Ted "takes a beer snob to know a beer snob" Krueger

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Alan J Rosenthal

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Mar 3, 1994, 8:38:10 AM3/3/94
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pa...@legoland.Eng.Sun.COM (Paul Pantera) writes:
>A friend of mine invented (?) a drink called "strip and go naked."

I've always wondered why people think that sexual names for drinks are clever.
They're never even at all subtle, just straightforward statements of sexual
acts.

Of course, removing one's clothes is not usually a sexual act, but I would
assume that this title is meant to be taken in that way.

Alan "I may not be very clever, but I'm clever than THAT" Rosenthal

Paul Tomblin

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Mar 3, 1994, 5:37:22 PM3/3/94
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ag...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Barbara Hamel) writes:

>>fl...@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) wrote:
>>>
>>> I've always wondered why people think that sexual names for drinks are clever.

>Perhaps, gentlemen, because buying a lady a drink is still a standard
>come-on, and buying her one with a suggestive name might direct the
>conversation towards more "interesting" topics.

So what does it say if I buy the lady a Zombie? Or a Black Velvet?

Paul "will buy Black Velvets with food" Tomblin


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Mark C. Orton

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Mar 3, 1994, 6:32:41 PM3/3/94
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In a previous article that I've lost track of, somebody writes:

> Beer and lemonade, however, is popular among the Brits, who call it a
> shandy, trimmed from shandygaff.

In article <1994Feb28....@inmos.co.uk>, atk...@inmos.co.uk (Steve
Atkins) writes:

> A less common variant is ale and ginger-beer, a very pleasant, light drink.

In article <MICWCLAR-0...@clark-michael.collins.indiana.edu.> MICW...@UCS.INDIANA.EDU writes:

>What kind of ale? Something like Bass? Or one of the Amber Ales that are
>popping up from American Breweries?

I have heard of (but haven't got round to trying) a shandy made with
Guinness and ginger beer.

The ginger beer has to be the spicy kind. Canada Dry and Schweppes
won't do - you might as well use soda water.
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Len Berlind

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Mar 3, 1994, 8:59:37 PM3/3/94
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>DATE: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:23:47 GMT
>FROM: Barbara Hamel <ag...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA>

[...]

>Perhaps, gentlemen, because buying a lady a drink is still a standard
>come-on, and buying her one with a suggestive name might direct the
>conversation towards more "interesting" topics.
>

>Picture yourself boldly looking into the eyes of the object of your desire
>and saying, "Would you like a Between The Sheets, m'dear?"

If the object of my desire responded to that kind of smarmosity by
doing anything other than tossing my drink in my face and puking on my
shoes, then I'd lose my desire right quick. I am shocked, _shocked_ that
any woman, let alone the estimable B. Hamel, would suggest such a thing.

--Len


Peter van der Linden

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Mar 3, 1994, 9:04:12 PM3/3/94
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Crabby old Alan J Rosenthal probably swallowed his monkey gland the wrong way:

> I've always wondered why people think that sexual names for drinks are clever.
> They're never even at all subtle, just straightforward statements of sexual
> acts.

I believe this idiom dates from the heyday of the cocktail (!) -- the 1930's
immediately after prohibition. Naming exotic drinks in this way gave gay
young blades permission to be saucy with the girls without being offensive.

Now it just seems silly, but is still common among the young who are working
out the boundaries of the permissible. God, I hate sounding like an old fart.


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I'll be sober in the morning!" / "Might as well -- can't get this hubcap off!"
/ "Welcome to Jamaica and have a nice day!" / "Can you put him up for Easter?"

William VanHorne

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Mar 3, 1994, 9:16:42 PM3/3/94
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In article <CM3y3...@freenet.carleton.ca>,

Barbara Hamel <ag...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
>
>Perhaps, gentlemen, because buying a lady a drink is still a standard
>come-on, and buying her one with a suggestive name might direct the
>conversation towards more "interesting" topics.
>
>Picture yourself boldly looking into the eyes of the object of your desire
>and saying, "Would you like a Between The Sheets, m'dear?"

Oh ferchrissakes! No wonder I never got anywhere with Old Crow!

*Now* you tell me.

---Bill "I just offer Old Grandad these days" VanHorne

Barbara Hamel

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Mar 3, 1994, 11:22:38 PM3/3/94
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In a previous article, wvh...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William VanHorne) says:
>Barbara Hamel <ag...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
>>
>>Perhaps, gentlemen, because buying a lady a drink is still a standard
>>come-on, and buying her one with a suggestive name might direct the
>>conversation towards more "interesting" topics.
>>
>>Picture yourself boldly looking into the eyes of the object of your desire
>>and saying, "Would you like a Between The Sheets, m'dear?"
>
>Oh ferchrissakes! No wonder I never got anywhere with Old Crow!
>
>*Now* you tell me.

I suppose you don't know about taking a lady out for dessert and coffee
after a show either. Gives you a chance to use one of the finest lines
in existence....

"What now, m'dear? Le Trop Chere for creme caramel? Or back to my place
for Sex In A Pan?"

Barbara "will enjoy Sex In A Pan with complete strangers" Hamel
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Paul Tomblin

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Mar 3, 1994, 11:32:10 PM3/3/94
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ma...@software.pulse.com (Mark C. Orton) writes:

>I have heard of (but haven't got round to trying) a shandy made with
>Guinness and ginger beer.

I've heard people ordering "Bitter Shandy" in pubs in Cheshire. But the
usual shandy is made with lager.

Paul "will not waste bitter in such a horrible manner" Tomblin

Ken McNair

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Mar 4, 1994, 8:29:49 AM3/4/94
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In article <ab401.762755530@freenet>, ab...@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul

Tomblin) writes:
|>ma...@software.pulse.com (Mark C. Orton) writes:
|>
|>>I have heard of (but haven't got round to trying) a shandy made with
|>>Guinness and ginger beer.

Try a "Gorilla's Armpit" - Guinness and Creme de Menthe !!!

|>
|>I've heard people ordering "Bitter Shandy" in pubs in Cheshire. But the
|>usual shandy is made with lager.
|>
|>Paul "will not waste bitter in such a horrible manner" Tomblin
|>--
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Ken "Gie us two pints o' creme de menthe, Jimmy" McNair


Mark Hodgson

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Mar 4, 1994, 9:43:30 AM3/4/94
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My parents used to run a pub and we had a regular customer whose
favourite drink was a pint of draught Guinness with a measure of
Pernod tipped in it. You could just see the Pernod sink through
the Guinness like a ball of snot. The customer reckoned it was
a really good drink.

Mark
m...@uniplex.co.uk

Christopher Choukalas

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Mar 4, 1994, 1:12:34 PM3/4/94
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usai...@mmm.com (Scott Lowrey) writes:

>Quite the novelty!


*******
This has nothing to do with this post, but it's good to see someone on the
net from Minnesota. I'm down in Saint Peter at Gustavus Adolphus College.
All I ever see on the net are people from far away places. Anyway, I
guess it's just nice to see a Minnesota resident. Have a good one
(typical Minnesota saying)

Linda Richards

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Mar 4, 1994, 6:41:36 PM3/4/94
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Chris, Master of all that is Led, writes:

> This has nothing to do with this post, but it's good to see someone on the
> net from Minnesota. I'm down in Saint Peter at Gustavus Adolphus College.
> All I ever see on the net are people from far away places. Anyway, I
> guess it's just nice to see a Minnesota resident. Have a good one
> (typical Minnesota saying)

Chris, do you have e-mail at your site?

Everywhere is far away from somewhere. For instance, *you* are far away from
*me*.

BTW, "have a good one" is not a typical Minnesota saying. It's a typical
saying. Everyone says it. In fact, I say it all the time and I've never even
been to Minnesota.

Linda "has anyone ever been to Minnesota or know someone who has?" Richards

bill nelson

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Mar 4, 1994, 8:49:46 PM3/4/94
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ma...@software.pulse.com (Mark C. Orton) writes:
:
: I have heard of (but haven't got round to trying) a shandy made with

: Guinness and ginger beer.
:
: The ginger beer has to be the spicy kind. Canada Dry and Schweppes
: won't do - you might as well use soda water.

With bottled Guinness, you might as well use turpentine. You won't notice
a difference in taste.

Bill "But - draft Guinness ..." Nelson

Len Berlind

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Mar 4, 1994, 10:51:43 PM3/4/94
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Linda Richards seems to be on to something:

[someone burbling about Minnesota]

>Everywhere is far away from somewhere. For instance, *you* are far away from
>*me*.

--Len

Derek Tearne

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Mar 5, 1994, 12:29:00 AM3/5/94
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In article <ab401.762472038@freenet> ab...@freenet.carleton.ca writes:
>
>BTW: Anybody know where I can buy some Old Peculier in Ottawa?

No, but I know several places where you can buy it in Auckland.

Derek "Sub-tropical climate, Theakstons beer, what more could one want.." Tearne


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consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.

bill nelson

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Mar 5, 1994, 2:31:54 AM3/5/94
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lin...@positive.eng.sun.com (Peter van der Linden) writes:
:
: ... God, I hate sounding like an old fart.

Why, you are rapidly becoming one.

Bill "Join the crowd" Nelson

Todd Larason

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Mar 5, 1994, 12:22:44 PM3/5/94
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lin...@positive.eng.sun.com (Peter van der Linden) writes:

[naming drinks after sexual acts]

>I believe this idiom dates from the heyday of the cocktail (!) -- the 1930's
>immediately after prohibition. Naming exotic drinks in this way gave gay
>young blades permission to be saucy with the girls without being offensive.

I'm not sure about the "heyday" of cocktails, but they first became
common during, not after, prohibition, when alcohol was strong but not
very good, and required mixing with other substances to be potable.
At least, that's what I've read.

"Welcome to Jamaica, and have a nice day." Todd Larason
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Terry Chan

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Mar 5, 1994, 9:48:09 PM3/5/94
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lin...@positive.eng.sun.com (Peter van der Linden) writes:
-:...God, I hate sounding like an old fart.

bi...@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
-Why, you are rapidly becoming one.

"Becoming?"

Terry "I can see the future, but I forgot what it looked like" Chan
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Bill Shoemaker

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Mar 6, 1994, 9:12:03 AM3/6/94
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>The ginger beer has to be the spicy kind. Canada Dry and Schweppes
>won't do - you might as well use soda water.

Try it with this "new" ginger ale, called Blenheim.

It's actually an old ginger ale, made in Blenheim, S.C., but they're
currently trying their hand at going "national."

Even the "pale" variety will make you cough. The "hot" has a half life.

Personally, I prefer Vernors, but I like to buy Blenheim now and then to
clear my sinuses. Great stuff. Some people I talked to, who substitute it
for ginger ale in mixed drinks, swear by it.

Bill Shoemaker

Linda Richards

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Mar 5, 1994, 9:23:36 PM3/5/94
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> Paul Pantera writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <mn9nrt...@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>
> References: <39...@mindlink.bc.ca>
> Posted: 2 Mar 1994 18:48:29 GMT
>
> Org. : Sun Microsystems, Inc.


Let's get this straight: Beer, lemonade and vodka makes you want to strip and
go naked? Hmmmm. I dunno.

Linda "maybe if you threw up all over your clothes" Richards

Paul Tomblin

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Mar 7, 1994, 9:28:25 AM3/7/94
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de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:

>In article <ab401.762755530@freenet> ab...@freenet.carleton.ca writes:
>>I've heard people ordering "Bitter Shandy" in pubs in Cheshire. But the
>>usual shandy is made with lager.

>In my youth one would ask for a shandy and expect a bitter shandy without
>question. Lager has, after all, been a recentish addition to the british
>beer palate.

I heard a rumour while I was there that the biggest selling beer in Britian
was Buttwiper^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HBudwieser. Such a shame. And nearly every
pub I visited had Labatt's Blue Light (just called "Labatt's") on tap.

>Or maybe it's a north south thing, with the southern heathens drinking
>lager shandies.

Cheshire isn't South. At least, I was working for North West Water, and
belonged to the North West Orienteering Association, so I *assume* Cheshire
is consided North West.

>Derek "The only good things about England are Banks' Mild Ale and the ozone
>layer" Tearne

I thought you drank Theakston's? The North Yorkshire is still part of
England.

Geographical Oddity time: Before I lived int eh UK, I lived between Wakefield
Quebec and Masham Quebec. And worked in Ottawa, known as "Fat City" to the
rest of Canada. Then I went to the UK, and one of the first Orienteering
meets I went to was between Wakefield and Masham, at a place called
Blubberhouses. I'm *not* making this up.

Paul "If you want, I can give you OS grid references" Tomblin

bill nelson

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Mar 7, 1994, 2:25:59 PM3/7/94
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ab...@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Tomblin) writes:
:
: I heard a rumour while I was there that the biggest selling beer in Britian
: was Buttwiper^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HBudwieser. Such a shame. And nearly every
: pub I visited had Labatt's Blue Light (just called "Labatt's") on tap.

Considering that they are about the same quality, you could mix them without
hurting either one significantly.

Bill

Derek Tearne

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Mar 6, 1994, 10:01:56 PM3/6/94
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In article <ab401.762755530@freenet> ab...@freenet.carleton.ca writes:
>ma...@software.pulse.com (Mark C. Orton) writes:
>
>>I have heard of (but haven't got round to trying) a shandy made with
>>Guinness and ginger beer.
>
>I've heard people ordering "Bitter Shandy" in pubs in Cheshire. But the
>usual shandy is made with lager.

I think you will find that this distinction has only be made relatively
recently and that people will ask for a lager shandy or bitter shandy.

In my youth one would ask for a shandy and expect a bitter shandy without
question. Lager has, after all, been a recentish addition to the british
beer palate.

Or maybe it's a north south thing, with the southern heathens drinking
lager shandies.

I have, however, never heard of anyone drinking a 'mild' shandy.

On the subjct of obscure combinations there is always a 'mackie and vimto'
which is made with Mackeson Stout (poor mans guiness) and 'Vimto' a
pink flavoured soda and probably the nearest british equivalent of root
beer, although it doesn't taste as much like a skin care product as as root
beer does.

Derek "The only good things about England are Banks' Mild Ale and the ozone
layer" Tearne

Tim A. Dowd

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Mar 7, 1994, 4:24:59 PM3/7/94
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In article <39...@mindlink.bc.ca> Linda Richards,

Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca writes:
> BTW, "have a good one" is not a typical Minnesota saying. It's a typical
> saying. Everyone says it. In fact, I say it all the time and I've never even
> been to Minnesota.

Minnesota, however, is practically Canada, in fact, for all intents and
dolphins^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hporpoises^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpurposes (whew) it
might as well be. So you see, it could be a typical Minnesota saying
that you say in Canadia (which is, in fact, part of Minnesota, or
vice versa). Or something. 'Cource, I guess BC is not particulately
close to Minnesota at this time, is it? Never mind then.

ObUL: The state bird of Minnesota is the mosquito.

Tim "Knew a girl from Minnesota once." Dowd

CAUTION: SUDDEN HIGH IMPACT NOISE MAY OCCUR WHEN RED LIGHT IS FLASHING

Tim A. Dowd

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Mar 7, 1994, 4:34:56 PM3/7/94
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In article <ab401.763050505@freenet> Paul Tomblin, ab...@freenet.carleton.ca
writes:

> I heard a rumour while I was there that the biggest selling beer in Britian
> was Buttwiper^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HBudwieser. Such a shame.

Which, the "King of Beers" or the "Beer of Kings"? There're two
Budweisers, and one is brewed in Europe.

Tim "I recommend St. Stans, myself." Dowd

Pattie Sisson

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Mar 7, 1994, 4:53:00 PM3/7/94
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MCO> I have heard of (but haven't got round to trying) a shandy made with
MCO> Guinness and ginger beer.
MCO>

While we are on this thread, I remember seeing Cheers a coupla decades ago,
and Carla made Diane an "Open Grave." One of MY friends said it was a "real"
drink. What is it?

Pattie "Snap-E-Tom" Sisson

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Peter van der Linden

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Mar 7, 1994, 11:15:03 PM3/7/94
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bi...@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
-Why, you are rapidly becoming one.

Terry "I can see the future, but I forgot what it looked like" Chan says:
"Becoming?"

Please! Lets revert to the Patrick Clark/Dan Wright terminology
of "Old Hat".

Peter " 10/6d " vdL


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inaccuracy, ignorance, and just plain fantasy that gets
displayed here on a daily basis." - PvdL " -- Len Berlind

Articulate Mandible

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Mar 7, 1994, 11:16:51 PM3/7/94
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Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:

>Linda "has anyone ever been to Minnesota or know someone who has?" Richards

Idunno about "been to", but I have friends FROM Minnesota. From just outside
the wrinkle in the map that conceals Lake Wobegone - Vesta and Redwood
Falls, to be exact.

ObUL: Folks from Minnesota don't like "A Prarie Home Companion"

Mark Hodgson

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Mar 8, 1994, 9:17:52 AM3/8/94
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Paul Tomblin (ab...@freenet.carleton.ca) wrote:

: I heard a rumour while I was there that the biggest selling beer in Britian

: was Buttwiper^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HBudwieser. Such a shame. And nearly every
: pub I visited had Labatt's Blue Light (just called "Labatt's") on tap.

Not surprised you saw a lot of Labatts in the North West. Greenall Whitley,
based in Warrington (Cheshire) are the licensed importers for the UK.
BTW Blubberhouses is nothing, there's a village called Pratt's Bottom
in Kent.

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Thomas O'Donnell

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Mar 8, 1994, 10:52:51 AM3/8/94
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In article 15...@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com, Tim A. Dowd <bo...@lmsc.lockheed.com> () writes:
>In article <39...@mindlink.bc.ca> Linda Richards,
>Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca writes:
>> BTW, "have a good one" is not a typical Minnesota saying. It's a typical
>> saying. Everyone says it. In fact, I say it all the time and I've never even
>> been to Minnesota.
>
>Minnesota, however, is practically Canada, in fact, for all intents and
>
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>
>ObUL: The state bird of Minnesota is the mosquito.
^^^^

>
>Tim "Knew a girl from Minnesota once." Dowd
>
Sorry. The mosquito is the Minnesota state airplane. They don't explode
after taking an Alka-Seltzer, but they will explode if filled with
hydrogen.

Tom "#include "infix.h"" O'Donnell


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Derek Tearne

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In article <ab401.763050505@freenet> ab...@freenet.carleton.ca writes:

>de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>
>>Derek "The only good things about England are Banks' Mild Ale and the ozone
>>layer" Tearne
>
>I thought you drank Theakston's? The North Yorkshire is still part of
>England.

I'll drink Old Peculier in preference to Budweiser any day. The beers I
prefer are the dark beers, in fact the beers I prefer are Ales...

There wasn't room in the middle name to list my favourite beers in order
although Marstons Merry Monk and Theakstons Old Peculier would be in there
right after Banks' Mild Ale and above Owd Rodger and the Smith brothers
brews.

One thing i've always wondered is, if a Peculier is one who pecules, what
exactly is peculing and does anyone still do it?

>Then I went to the UK, and one of the first Orienteering
>meets I went to was between Wakefield and Masham, at a place called
>Blubberhouses. I'm *not* making this up.

I went to a rather large folk/rock festival at Nostel Priory, near
Wakefield (headlined by Jethro Tull). It was between Wakefield and Masham
and sponsored by Theakston's Brewery. The stage was a huge affair dwarfed
only by the bar at the other end of the field, selling all manner of
Theakston's beverages.

Derek "I'll never forget the OP snakebites" Tearne

David DeLaney

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Mar 9, 1994, 12:15:15 AM3/9/94
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de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>One thing i've always wondered is, if a Peculier is one who pecules, what
>exactly is peculing and does anyone still do it?

Oh come now, Derek: obviously it's "one who engages in peculation".

ObUL: People hate to admit to using their dictionaries...

Dave "I just *posted* the `buys no cows' reference *yesterday*" DeLaney
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cask...@ix.wcc.govt.nz

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Mar 9, 1994, 2:17:07 AM3/9/94
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In article <1994Mar8.2...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>, de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
:In article <ab401.763050505@freenet> ab...@freenet.carleton.ca writes:
:I'll drink Old Peculier in preference to Budweiser any day. The beers I
:prefer are the dark beers, in fact the beers I prefer are Ales...
:
:There wasn't room in the middle name to list my favourite beers in order
:although Marstons Merry Monk and Theakstons Old Peculier would be in there
:right after Banks' Mild Ale and above Owd Rodger and the Smith brothers
:brews.
:
:One thing i've always wondered is, if a Peculier is one who pecules, what
:exactly is peculing and does anyone still do it?

Peculier is the French translation for "to peculate", of course. Old
Peculiers fiddle the books at the RSA (Returned Servicemen's Association).

Steve "either that, or it's what birds do to Bluebottle" Caskey
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Craig Adams

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Mar 9, 1994, 6:31:00 AM3/9/94
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Quoth Mr. Lowrey of Maplewood, MN:
US>Incidentally, for the anti-American-beer bigots out there, be reminded that
US>every beer-brewing country on the planet makes at least one sucky beer,
US>including yours.

BT
I'll have you know, sir, that MY country makes more than a
DOZEN of 'em. You Americans must stop underestimating Canadian
industry!

Cheers: CJA
BT
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Paul Tomblin

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Mar 9, 1994, 9:54:29 AM3/9/94
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de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:

>One thing i've always wondered is, if a Peculier is one who pecules, what
>exactly is peculing and does anyone still do it?

I think this came up once before. A Peculier is some sort of religious
functionary. Having studied the labels on bottled Old Peculier through
bleary eyes, I can attest that the label has the "Seal of the Peculier of
Masham" on it.

Paul "but it's better on draft" Tomblin

Donald Fisk

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Mar 9, 1994, 1:55:12 PM3/9/94
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Paul Tomblin (ab...@freenet.carleton.ca) wrote:
: de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:

: >One thing i've always wondered is, if a Peculier is one who pecules, what
: >exactly is peculing and does anyone still do it?

: I think this came up once before. A Peculier is some sort of religious
: functionary. Having studied the labels on bottled Old Peculier through
: bleary eyes, I can attest that the label has the "Seal of the Peculier of
: Masham" on it.

A peculier is an ecclesiastical court without a bishop. The label has
"Seal of the Official of the Peculier of Masham" in it"

: Paul "but it's better on draft" Tomblin

It is indeed better on draught. This seems to be generally the case for
real ales. But isn't there an urban legend about
a dead body being found in an Old Peculier vat?

Sid "will drink Old Peculier for food" Kandolf (mo bheachd fhe/in)
Email: don...@imst.bt.co.uk

Scott Lowrey

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Mar 10, 1994, 2:48:49 PM3/10/94
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Articulate Mandible (mand...@netcom.com) wrote:
> Linda_R...@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:

> ObUL: Folks from Minnesota don't like "A Prarie Home Companion"

Good one. What's-his-name is occasionally entertaining but, welllll,
my impression of him changed after I saw him on TV. This perpetual
scandahoovian-good-ol'-folks thing gets on my nerves after a while.

Bartender! Another round of root beer barrels for me and my buddy.

--
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Maplewood, MN Internet: sdlo...@mmm.com

Scott Lowrey

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Mar 10, 1994, 4:35:22 PM3/10/94
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> Cheers: CJA

Ah... the response I was looking for.

I didn't want to slam the Canadian brews outright - but most of them are
a bit overrated. This opinion, of course, ignores the fact that all
popular, by-the-case, freezing, fizzy, lightweight, piss-colored American
beers are also unacceptable. And many of the world's blast-it-with-a-
little-more-CO2, bottle-it-up, put-it-on-a-cold-boat-and-send-it-to-the-
states imported brews don't cut it either.

Let us drink flavorful, heart-warming beer drawn up from the basement with
a low brown head at 54 degrees Fahrenheit - and be happy.

Terry Smith

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Mar 11, 1994, 4:19:20 PM3/11/94
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Message <07 Mar 1994 03:01> Derek Tearne wrote to (crosspost 2) All:

DT> probably the nearest british equivalent of root beer,
DT> although it doesn't taste as much like a skin care product
DT> as as root beer does.

Nah then, when I was a lad in Langley, me mam used to get earthenware flagons of
fizz. Us kids had the choice of ginger beer or sarsparilla.

Sarsparilla = root beer.

The bottles made excellent hotties.

DT> Derek "The only good things about England are Banks' Mild
DT> Ale and the ozone layer" Tearne

And _real_ Bass.


Terry [will live in the Waikato for food] Smith.

Craig Adams

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Mar 12, 1994, 5:23:00 AM3/12/94
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Quoth Mr. Lowrey of Maplewood, MN:
US>Incidentally, for the anti-American-beer bigots out there, be reminded that
US>every beer-brewing country on the planet makes at least one sucky beer,
US>including yours.

BT
I'll have you know, sir, that MY country makes more than a
DOZEN of 'em. You Americans must stop underestimating Canadian
industry!

Cheers: CJA

cfb103

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In article <76343319...@sawasdi.apana.org.au>, mu...@sawasdi.apana.org.au

(Terry Smith) says:
>
>Message <07 Mar 1994 03:01> Derek Tearne wrote to (crosspost 2) All:
>
>DT> probably the nearest british equivalent of root beer,
>DT> although it doesn't taste as much like a skin care product
>DT> as as root beer does.
>
>Sarsparilla = root beer.

Not really, no. It tastes pretty similar (even more like birch beer), but it's
not identical.

-Josh "I prefer Mountain Dew" Munn

Ray Depew

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Mar 14, 1994, 3:27:42 PM3/14/94
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Terry Smith (mu...@sawasdi.apana.org.au) wrote:

: Sarsparilla = root beer.

In the USofA, that's close but not quite accurate. Root beer is a
mixture of several herbs, including sarsaparilla and sassafrass (both
of which have benzene rings -- tie-in! tie-in!). Actual recipes
differ and are trade secrets, but they include licorice, ginger, cinnamon,
vanilla, ...


Regards
Ray Depew
r...@fc.hp.com
"After all, we can't ALL discuss San Francisco and pus." -- Alan J. Rosenthal

ObRootBeerUL: Italians don't like root beer because it tastes like cough
syrup.
ObCoughSyrup: Italian cough syrup doesn't taste like any root beer I've
ever had.

Lee Rudolph

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Mar 14, 1994, 8:45:46 PM3/14/94
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r...@fc.hp.com (Ray Depew) writes:

>: Sarsparilla = root beer.

>In the USofA, that's close but not quite accurate. Root beer is a
>mixture of several herbs, including sarsaparilla and sassafrass (both
>of which have benzene rings -- tie-in! tie-in!). Actual recipes
>differ and are trade secrets, but they include licorice, ginger, cinnamon,
>vanilla, ...

Well, T.M. Griffiths's "Non-Secret Formulas" (St. Louis, 1910), has
some doozies. Sassafras, wild cherry bark, allspice, wintergreen bark,
hops, coriander seed, molasses, yeast; or, sarsaparilla, spice wood,
guaiacum chips, birch bark, ginger, sassafras, prickly ash bark, hops,
tincture of ginger, oil of wintergreen, alcohol.

Then, under "Blood Purifiers and Alteratives", there's "Syrup of Sarsa-
parilla with Iodide of Potash": 106 gallons sugar house syrup, 51
gallons spirits (188 per cent), 60 pounds iodide of potash, 34-1/2
gallons distilled water, 5 gallons fluid extract sarsap. co.,
2 gallons fluid extract dandelion, 2 gallons fluid extract senna,
2 gallons fluid extract columbo, 7-1/2 ounces oil sassafras, 3-3/4
ounces oil anise, 1-3/4 ounces oil wintergreen, 64 ounces burnt sugar
coloring. Whooee, talk about spring tonic, and plenty of it.

ObMixedDrink: someone from another newsgroup mentioned to me in
email that in Wisconsin he drinks maple syrup in beer.

Lee "still neither worried nor mixing" Rudolph

Paul Tomblin

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rud...@cis.umassd.edu (Lee Rudolph) writes:
>ObMixedDrink: someone from another newsgroup mentioned to me in
>email that in Wisconsin he drinks maple syrup in beer.

There is a brewing company in Niagara Falls, Ontario that every year comes up
with something new and different, and sells it in 750ml bottles. A few years
ago it was Eisbock (bock beer made by putting the beer outside till it
freezes and skimming the ice off - it was over 8% alcohol! A couple of
750ml bottles of that, and I was flying). The year before last, it was
"Maple Wheat Beer". They made a regular wheat beer, but instead of water,
they used maple sap (unboiled). If you drank it really warm, and
concentrated, you could just about catch the maple flavour. But if you drank
it cold, it tasted like regular wheat beer.

Paul "but I'm willing to experiment some more" Tomblin
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