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Kenn Mileski
ago and was talking with a co-worker about a topic that was on the Oprah
show. He brought up something that he claimed he witnessed in the
early 80's. At the time Oprah was co-host Baltimore's WJZ-TV's local
talk show, 'People Are Talking' and the guest was Don Tyson, the son of
John Tyson, the founder of Tyson Foods. At some point during the
interview Oprah asked Don "What do you say when people tell you that
you look like a chicken?" to which Mr. Tyson replied "What do you say
when people tell you that you look like a gorilla?" Oprah then walked
off the set.
True or not? I searched both www.urbanlegends.com and www.dejanews.com and
couldn't find anything.
Kenn "ski at the end of my name because I can't spell toboggan" Mileski
Crash
>
> I was working for a company in Greenbelt, Maryland, (USA) about 10 years
> ago and was talking with a co-worker about a topic that was on the Oprah
> show. He brought up something that he claimed he witnessed in the
> early 80's. At the time Oprah was co-host Baltimore's WJZ-TV's local
> talk show, 'People Are Talking' and the guest was Don Tyson, the son of
> John Tyson,
<>
We heard it was that guy that looks like Ross Perot, afually.
http://www.urbanlegends.com/tv/oprah_uls.html
would be a good place to start.
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Crash 'lost the memory of the name' Johnson
Bruce Tindall
Maybe Madeleine could help you remember. Or you could just hire
a couple of temps.
B "recherchez la femme" T
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Madeleine Page
: Crash <crash...@ezonline.com> wrote:
:>We heard it was that guy that looks like Ross Perot, afually.
:>Crash 'lost the memory of the name' Johnson
: Maybe Madeleine could help you remember. Or you could just hire
: a couple of temps.
Wow! Oprah had *Proust* on her show? I knew she liked books and all, but
that's simply amazing. Though I think she overestimates some authors --
sometimes I'm tempted to say that all her geese are Swanns.
: B "recherchez la femme" T
Madeleine "no one here but us chickens, Bruce" Page
Donald DiPaula
Kenn Mileski <pw...@palacenet.net> wrote:
!I was working for a company in Greenbelt, Maryland, (USA) about 10 years
!ago and was talking with a co-worker about a topic that was on the Oprah
!show. He brought up something that he claimed he witnessed in the
!early 80's. At the time Oprah was co-host Baltimore's WJZ-TV's local
!talk show, 'People Are Talking' and the guest was Don Tyson, the son of
!John Tyson, the founder of Tyson Foods. At some point during the
!interview Oprah asked Don "What do you say when people tell you that
!you look like a chicken?" to which Mr. Tyson replied "What do you say
!when people tell you that you look like a gorilla?" Oprah then walked
!off the set.
!
!True or not? I searched both www.urbanlegends.com and www.dejanews.com and
!couldn't find anything.
!
!Kenn "ski at the end of my name because I can't spell toboggan" Mileski
you might try searching for references to frank perdue. perdue farms
are based on maryland's eastern shore (delmarva peninsula), and as such
he would have been a much more accessible local figure than don tyson.
perdue is a respected businessman in maryland; my brother went to his
school[1], he's on the UM board of regents, etc. in particular, since he
starred in his own advertisements for years, he has a high face recognition
factor, which cannot be said of don tyson.
Donald "he does look like a chicken, and she does look like a gorilla, and
how would _you_ have responded to such a rude question?" DiPaula
[1] the Franklin P. Perdue College of Business at Salisbury State University,
_not_ Perdue University.
Crash
> Crash <crash...@ezonline.com> wrote:
> >We heard it was that guy that looks like Ross Perot, afually.
> >Crash 'lost the memory of the name' Johnson
> Maybe Madeleine could help you remember. Or you could just hire
> a couple of temps.
> B "recherchez la femme" T
> --
> Bruce Tindall :: tin...@panix.com
Yes, good idea. I have found a 'poulette' to assist me.
--
Crash 'she said she could give me a hand' Johnson
Crash
<>
> Wow! Oprah had *Proust* on her show? I knew she liked books and all, but
> that's simply amazing. Though I think she overestimates some authors --
> sometimes I'm tempted to say that all her geese are Swanns.
>
> : B "recherchez la femme" T
>
> Madeleine "no one here but us chickens, Bruce" Page
I always thought of her more as the Shake'n Bacon sort of a girl.
--
Crash 'tastes like rattlesnake' Johnson
Ben Walsh
>Wow! Oprah had *Proust* on her show? I knew she liked books and all, but
>that's simply amazing. Though I think she overestimates some authors --
>sometimes I'm tempted to say that all her geese are Swanns.
She actually had a Proustian scholar and clothing designer called Anton on
her show. Oprah had been displaying his new nightwear range until Anton
announced that a popular talk show hosted by a black woman would be a great
forum to announce his support for the Aryan Nations. They cut to
commercials, and when they came back, Anton and his nightgowns had been
removed from the set, prompting many to ask "ou sont les negligees d'Anton?"
ben "right there in the bucket, you fool" w.
JoAnne Schmitz
The story as I heard it, from the late 70's or early 80's, is with Frank Perdue.
I have mentioned it before on this newsgroup; I think Kenn is the first person
on AFU to have heard the story too. For what it's worth, I don't think it's
true.
I have seen/heard/read something like "what they say about Oprah and Frank
Perdue is not true" but I can't for the life of me remember where I heard this
contrary claim.
>Donald "he does look like a chicken, and she does look like a gorilla, and
>how would _you_ have responded to such a rude question?" DiPaula
The idea was not that Perdue was simply insulting her in return by commenting on
her appearance as unlovely, but that he was making a racist remark.
JoAnne "at least that's how it was related to me" Schmitz
Charles A. Lieberman
> Franklin P. Perdue College of Business at Salisbury State University,
Now I'm hungry.
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Phil Edwards
<snip 'Oprah meets Keats and Chapman'>
>
>ben "right there in the bucket, you fool" w.
They're a power for the hills.
P "we can't go on meeting like this" E
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John Francis
JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net> wrote:
>
>I have seen/heard/read something like "what they say about Oprah and Frank
>Perdue is not true" but I can't for the life of me remember where I heard this
>contrary claim.
Reminds me of the story I was told about Frank Perdue & his advertisements
(it takes a tough man to make a tender chicken). Frank delivered the line.
Supposedly a furniture manufacturer went to the same advertising agency,
and he too had some commercials made. They were *not* a success, probably
because the lines would probably have been delivered better by the furniture.
He complained to the ad. agency, and was told something like "Well, Frank
looks just like a chicken. But you don't look enough like a sofa."
Brian Sefton
> "Ben Walsh" <ben_...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
> <snip 'Oprah meets Keats and Chapman'>
> >
> >
Definatly OT, but this has been bothering me for a while.
Back in 1990 I met a Canadian in-tell-eck-chew-awl in Beijing, who
proceeded to tell me a variety of 'Keats and Chapman' jokes.
(sorry, can't remember any, but do recall they were
quite.......*droll*.)
He seemed surprised that I had never heard a Keats and Chapman joke,
kind of like an American would be if they met a person who had never
heard a blonde joke.
Never could tell if he was having me on, so that leaves me with the
question:
Has anyone else ever heard a Keats and Chapman joke?
Are K and C jokes common?
Brian
Ben Walsh
>He seemed surprised that I had never heard a Keats and Chapman joke,
>kind of like an American would be if they met a person who had never
>heard a blonde joke.
>Never could tell if he was having me on, so that leaves me with the
>question:
>Has anyone else ever heard a Keats and Chapman joke?
>Are K and C jokes common?
Well, any Irishman with any sort of literary pretensions has. It's part of
the licensing process. As to people abroad, I don't know. Myles has never
got the coverage he deserves, being overshadowed by lesser talents like
Yeats and Kavanagh. It is unlikely that many outside Ireland had access to
The Irish Times on a regular basis when Cruiskeen Lawn was published therein
(the 1940s), and I note that "The Best of Myles", wherein those columns are
collected, is out of print in the US. There is a small imprint called Dalkey
Archive Press (www.dalkeyarchive.com) who do not print it but might in the
future, but I suppose going to an Irish online bookstore such as
www.easons.ie, www.hannas.ie or www.hodges-figgis.ie would be your best bet.
The Amazon.uk site at www.amazon.co.uk would also probably do the trick.
Keats & Chapman have a whole section to themselves in "The Best of Myles",
and they're not even the star attractions. If you get yourself that book,
"The Third Policeman", "At Swim-Two-Birds" and "An Beal Bocht" ("The Poor
Mouth") then you have the most important literary canon in Irish literature.
http://www.fringeware.com/hell/flann.html is your only man, sure.
ben "is it about a bicycle?" w.
Fireball Snedeker
>Are K and C jokes common?
Keats and Chapman jokes have even be relayed on AFU from time to time.
They were popularized by the Irish writer Flan Something-or-other.
He also popularized the saying "... was a supporter of Ireland at
a time when it was neither popular nor profitable".
K&C jokes have a one or two paragraph set up, and end with a clever
pun. Frequently they involve a dialog between the two characters
Keats (the poetaster) and Chapman (who he?).
The FABULOUS Dennis Norden joke about "I think they're for 1a.m." is
a Keats & Chapman joke.
Fireball "and this isn't" Snedeker.
Alan Follett
wrote:
<much snippery>
> Frequently they involve a dialog between
> the two characters Keats (the poetaster)
> and Chapman (who he?).
Um...I may be demonstrating my semi-clueless demi-newbyism by taking the
question at face value -- but in this context, Chapman would surely be
George Chapman, the early 17th-century translator of Homer, as referred
to in Keats' "On First Looking into Chapman's Homer"?
Alan "Much have I travelled in realms of gold / while my luggage hath
ended up in realms of tin" Follett
JoAnne Schmitz
>In article <3695b546....@news.digex.net>,
>JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net> wrote:
>>
>>I have seen/heard/read something like "what they say about Oprah and Frank
>>Perdue is not true" but I can't for the life of me remember where I heard this
>>contrary claim.
>
>Reminds me of the story I was told about Frank Perdue & his advertisements
>(it takes a tough man to make a tender chicken). Frank delivered the line.
Uh, yes, there was an ad with that motto. Don't remember if Frank himself
delivered it. The joke is supposedly that, when translated into Spanish, it
says something like "it takes a manly man to make a chicken sexually
attractive." Or sommat like that.
>Supposedly a furniture manufacturer went to the same advertising agency,
>and he too had some commercials made. They were *not* a success, probably
>because the lines would probably have been delivered better by the furniture.
>He complained to the ad. agency, and was told something like "Well, Frank
>looks just like a chicken. But you don't look enough like a sofa."
Heh.
JoAnne "it takes a tough man to make a soft sofa" Schmitz
Kenn Mileski
about. I also recall the first name of the person who told me the story but
I still can't recall his last name. If I remember it, I may try to look him
up. He is a native of Baltimore while I have lived my whole life in
Wisconsin except for the 3 1/2 years that I lived in Maryland. The story
may already have been a UL in Maryland by the time I first heard it in 1988.
Kenn "I can't tell one chicken from another" Mileski
Ben Walsh
<8458-367...@newsd-122.bryant.webtv.net>...
fire...@afu.com ("Fireball" Snedeker)
wrote:
><much snippery>
>> Frequently they involve a dialog between
>> the two characters Keats (the poetaster)
>> and Chapman (who he?).
><and more of the same>
>
>Um...I may be demonstrating my semi-clueless demi-newbyism by taking the
>question at face value -- but in this context, Chapman would surely be
>George Chapman, the early 17th-century translator of Homer, as referred
>to in Keats' "On First Looking into Chapman's Homer"?
I believe that's the idea.
ben "silent, upon a peak in Darien" w.
Brian Sefton
Swim Two Birds and The Hard life. I eagerly await their arrival from
amazon.com.
Unfortunately, 'The Third Policeman" is out of print, anyone who knows
where to get a copy or wants to part with theirs please let me know.
Brian
Ben Walsh
> As Flann O'Brien, he wrote a number of novels that have been
> praised by the like of James Joyce, Graham Greene, Dylan Thomas
> and Brendan Behan. The best are _At Swim-Two-Birds_, _The Dalkey
> Archive_ and _The Hard Life_.
Oh, not the Dalkey Archive. That's a weak pastiche of "The Third Policeman"
and other stuff. "The Third Policeman" is his finest. In fact, he wrote it
as Myles but it has subsequently been published under the name "Flann
O'Brien", despite the fact that he wanted to abandon that name.
ben "inter omnium" w.
Eric Hocking
> may already have been a UL in Maryland by the time I first heard
Oh, I get it... Chicken Maryland.
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Phil Edwards
> As Flann O'Brien, he wrote a number of novels that have been
> praised by the like of James Joyce, Graham Greene, Dylan Thomas
> and Brendan Behan. The best are _At Swim-Two-Birds_, _The Dalkey
> Archive_ and _The Hard Life_.
You seem to have omitted a line there. Here, let me:
> and Brendan Behan. The best is _The Third Policeman_; also
> worth seeking out are _At Swim-Two-Birds_, _The Dalkey
> Archive_ and _The Hard Life_.
Phil "second favourites always win" Edwards
Emily Harrison Kelly
>Unfortunately, 'The Third Policeman" is out of print, anyone who knows
>where to get a copy or wants to part with theirs please let me know.
There are a few copies available from www.bibliofind.com, but they're
all 1st eds. of some sort and fairly expensive. Browse at your local
used book stores or try <gasp> your local library; the book's not quite
as uncommon as the web booksellers make it seem, and it's well worth
seeking out.
Emily "hi, Phil!" Kelly
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Ben Walsh
>Thanks for the great responses, I have purchased the Dalkey Archive, At
>Swim Two Birds and The Hard life. I eagerly await their arrival from
>amazon.com.
>where to get a copy or wants to part with theirs please let me know.
Any of these fine Irish bookshops will allow you to order over the web and
deliver right to your door, much like an amazon.com or a barnesandnoble.com
would:
Eason's (of O'Connell St): www.eason.ie
Fred Hanna's (of Nassau St): www.hannas.ie
Hodges Figgis (of Dawson St): www.hodgesfiggis.ie
There's also www.amazon.co.uk
ben
Phil Edwards
>Brian Sefton <mrb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>Unfortunately, 'The Third Policeman" is out of print, anyone who knows
>>where to get a copy or wants to part with theirs please let me know.
>
>Browse at your local
>used book stores or try <gasp> your local library; the book's not quite
>as uncommon as the web booksellers make it seem, and it's well worth
>seeking out.
Fine sentiments.
>Emily "hi, Phil!" Kelly
And now I say something aimed at *Ben*, right?
Phil "I think this is where I came in" Edwards
Nick Spalding
> The Irish Times on a regular basis when Cruiskeen Lawn was published therein
> (the 1940s),
It continued until a very short time before the Blessed Myles died in
1966.
--
Regards, Nick