All You Sheila Bashing Cowards...
Nat Turner
I hope you guys are proud of yourselves. And the next time a visitor calls
you a bunch of effete snobs I don't want to hear a mumbling word. I mean
it, this is the worst case of Sheila bashing I've seen yet. The whole lot
of you tumbling over each to get your nasty licks in. Real stand-up guys,
all of you. Not one of you with enough intestinal fortitude to fill the
belly button of fruit fly. And isn't it so typical? The whole 80s male
sensitivity thing has passed you meatheads right by, hasn't it? Zoom --
male chauvinism, gender equality? "Who?" "Where?" "Say what?"
A woman comes to this group, shows a little spunk and there you go with
your Neanderthal schtickola. And you women who've been apart of this thing
are too contemptible for words. There's a special place in hell reserved
for grinning, grunting, lickspittle geeks like you. Hey, guess what, hon?
Sheila's a woman too. I mean, did it ever occur you that when you egg-on
these apes it's like cutting off your nose to spite your own face? Or
maybe you like to see guys ganging up and beating down woman who don't
know their place? Is that it, honey? Is that why you stand buy and let 'em
rip and tear at her?
Anyway, don't bother to flame me or run your stupid Deja Vu checks on me,
or any of your other silly shit, I'm out of here. The stench of the place
is even too much for my stainless steel nose....
BARD
--
Tony Lima
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
NT> I hope you guys are proud of yourselves. And the next time a visitor calls
NT> you a bunch of effete snobs I don't want to hear a mumbling word. I mean
NT> it, this is the worst case of Sheila bashing I've seen yet. The whole lot
NT> of you tumbling over each to get your nasty licks in. Real stand-up guys,
[snip]
Uh, Nat, care to rephrase that sentence? - Tony "or perhaps it
was intentional" Lima
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Nat Turner, late of Australopithecene fame, wrote:
>
> <snip 'noble defender of woman' rant>
>
> Anyway, don't bother to flame me or run your stupid Deja Vu checks on me,
> or any of your other silly shit, I'm out of here. The stench of the place
> is even too much for my stainless steel nose....
>
> BARD
how odd - he got more respect here than he seems to have garnered in any
other newsgroup [ah, those stupid dejanews checks -they just take you to
depths you never thought possible]
-- Linda 'you'd think BARD would feel right at home with eau d'sewergator
and dead cat deodoriser sprays'
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Nat Turner
Excuse, me, Miss, I wrote the above post because I resent very much the
way the fellows of this group have singled out a female to gang up on.
We'd expect that as a female yourself you'd respect what I'm doing or
at least, keep your incredible wit to yourself. Obviously, you're no
Jacqueline Kennedy or maybe it is you take a goulish delight in seeing a
member of your gender chased through the streets and stoned the way Sheila
has been here. I hope this is not the case.
BARD
--
Madeleine Page
Nat Turner wrote:
[the usual unamusing flamebait]
Yawn.
Madeleine "run along, now, Nat, and welcome to my killfile" Page
Kim
>Excuse, me, Miss, I wrote the above post because I resent very much the
>way the fellows of this group have singled out a female to gang up on.
Oh how KIND of you, good sir, to come to the aid of us poor defenseless
females.
-- Kim
Joe Boswell
In article <5mq72n$rhk$1...@news.smart.net>, Nat Turner
<tur...@smarty.smart.net> writes
>Excuse, me, Miss, I wrote the above post because I resent very much the
>way the fellows of this group have singled out a female to gang up on.
>at least, keep your incredible wit to yourself.
Amazing. Note that 'royal we', a feature seen in other posts lately, but
even better, the total certainty that all women must be in his debt for
the effort he has made on their behalf, and they should all show due
respect and deference.
--
Joe Boswell * If I cannot be free, I'll be cheap.
DaveHatunen
In article <5mpeip$npe$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
[...]
>Anyway, don't bother to flame me or run your stupid Deja Vu checks on me,
>or any of your other silly shit, I'm out of here. The stench of the place
>is even too much for my stainless steel nose....
Gee. isn't that stainless steel nose a little cold on your spincter?
--
********** DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@netcom.com) **********
* Daly City California: *
* where San Francisco meets The Peninsula *
* and the San Andreas Fault meets the Sea *
*******************************************************
Justin D. Bukowski
In article <5mqhf1$sj3$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>In article <5ncMRLA5...@bigbad.demon.co.uk>,
>Joe Boswell <j...@Xbigbad.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <5mq72n$rhk$1...@news.smart.net>, Nat Turner
>><tur...@smarty.smart.net> writes
>>>Excuse, me, Miss, I wrote the above post because I resent very much the
>>>way the fellows of this group have singled out a female to gang up on.
>>Amazing. Note that 'royal we', a feature seen in other posts lately, but
>>even better, the total certainty that all women must be in his debt for
>>the effort he has made on their behalf, and they should all show due
>>respect and deference.
[more of Nat's crap]
Please don't follow up to Nat's crap. He's just trying
to yank your chain.
Justin
--
Hi, I've been out of the states for a while and when I returned I couldn't
believe this woman was still doing her ridiculous schtickola. I say,
nothing wrong with this lady a shot of sperm wouldn't cure... Please add
me to your list... - Nat Turner, one of "people wanting Sheila to go away"
DaveHatunen
[...]
>You got something on you mind just come on out and say. Don't fool around.
>In case you didn't get the message, I don't like the way you meatheads
>gang up on the female in question and its gonna stop. From now on anyone
If we don't gang up on the females as well as the males, AFU Inc could
find itself in deep doodoo with the EEOC.
>who bothers her will have me to contend with. Now, let's see how tough
>mugs are when you're not ganging up on girls.
What about the gangers who ARE girls?
Christine Malcom
I know a troll when I see one, MISTER Hatunen. You're just trying to get
me to flash my headlights.
Christine "Sports bra, nothin' ta see here" Malcom-Dept. of Anthropology
____________________________________________________________________________
The depiction of nasal discharges in prominent public contexts is alien to
Western religious traditions. - RL Burger
Nat Turner
In article <hatunenE...@netcom.com>,
DaveHatunen <hat...@netcom.com> wrote:
>In article <5mpeip$npe$1...@news.smart.net>,
>>or any of your other silly shit, I'm out of here. The stench of the place
>>is even too much for my stainless steel nose....
>
>Gee. isn't that stainless steel nose a little cold on your spincter?
>
>
And this is exactly the type of scatological attack I'm talking about.
You see, here's a fellow who attributes to me not only what I cannot do,
but something I'd surely not imagine in my most twisted dreams. All of
which speaks volumes about the caliber of man the typical Sheila basher
is.
BARD
--
Nat Turner
In article <5mql1j$d...@panix2.panix.com>,
Hmm, I'd have thought you especially would understand where I'm coming
from. I'll not overestimate your sense of fair play again.
BARD
--
Nat Turner
In article <5mqj8t$b...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Justin D. Bukowski <j...@condor.cchem.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>In article <5mqhf1$sj3$1...@news.smart.net>,
Yeah, but I was so impressed with the way she returned and slam-dunked
everybody, I've changed my mind -- Sheila is a fighter which is more
than I can say for the raft of you nattering nabobs of negativism who
think it's such grand sport to seek out and destroy a woman because she
has enough gumption to refuse to kow-tow to the elitist claptrap you guys
shovel by the bucket-full around here.
I'm with Sheila and I urge everyone else who's sick and tired of the
narcissism that reigns rampant around here to join me in supporting this
courageous woman!
BARD
--
Nat Turner
In article <17B7F130F7S...@msu.edu>, Kim <2132...@msu.edu> wrote:
>>Excuse, me, Miss, I wrote the above post because I resent very much the
>>way the fellows of this group have singled out a female to gang up on.
>
>Oh how KIND of you, good sir, to come to the aid of us poor defenseless
>females.
>
>-- Kim
Only ladies, I'm afraid.
BARD
--
DaveHatunen
In article <5mqqjp$tjh$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>Yeah, but I was so impressed with the way she returned and slam-dunked
>everybody, I've changed my mind -- Sheila is a fighter which is more
>than I can say for the raft of you nattering nabobs of negativism who
>think it's such grand sport to seek out and destroy a woman because she
>has enough gumption to refuse to kow-tow to the elitist claptrap you guys
>shovel by the bucket-full around here.
Coem come, now. She's either a wimpy little thing that needs special
care or she's a shit-kickin' lady that doesn't need your pity. Which is
it?
--
********** DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@netcom.com) **********
RIZLEY79
so i maybe ignorant or just a plain arkansas hillbilly chasing my granny
and sister through the woods looking for a date but just who the HELL is
this sheila character or did i have a brain fart and miss out on something
here?
Rick Tyler
On 31 May 1997 15:02:49 GMT, tur...@smarty.smart.net (Nat Turner)
wrote:
:I'm out of here. The stench of the place
:is even too much for my stainless steel nose....
Bye!
-- Rick
-----------------------------------------
There's no "killspam" in my real adress.
Nat Turner
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>
>>Yeah, but I was so impressed with the way she returned and slam-dunked
>>everybody, I've changed my mind -- Sheila is a fighter which is more
>>than I can say for the raft of you nattering nabobs of negativism who
>>think it's such grand sport to seek out and destroy a woman because she
>>has enough gumption to refuse to kow-tow to the elitist claptrap you guys
>>shovel by the bucket-full around here.
>
>Coem come, now. She's either a wimpy little thing that needs special
>care or she's a shit-kickin' lady that doesn't need your pity. Which is
>it?
>
>
>
My relationship with Sheila is certainly none of your business and I'd
appreciate it if you'd restrict yourself to matters that don't concern the
particulars of such things.
BARD
--
Nat Turner
In article <EB2rx...@midway.uchicago.edu>,
Christine Malcom <cm...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>DaveHatunen <hat...@netcom.com> wrote:
>>What about the gangers who ARE girls?
>
>I know a troll when I see one, MISTER Hatunen. You're just trying to get
>me to flash my headlights.
>
>Christine "Sports bra, nothin' ta see here" Malcom-Dept. of Anthropology
>____________________________________________________________________________
This is one of the most shameless episodes of self-advertizing I've yet
seen on the information highway. Young lady, I refer you to
soc.culture.bikers. There, I'm sure, flashing your headlights, what of
them there are, would be far more appreciated than in a thread
that attempts to redress the wrongs committed against a member of
your gender. Now put your clothes back on and go to church, it's Sunday
for Pete's sake.
BARD
--
Nat Turner
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>In article <hatunenE...@netcom.com>,
>>DaveHatunen <hat...@netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>Anyway, don't bother to flame me or run your stupid Deja Vu checks on me,
>>>>is even too much for my stainless steel nose....
>>>
>
>>
>>You see, here's a fellow who attributes to me not only what I cannot do,
>>but something I'd surely not imagine in my most twisted dreams. All of
>>which speaks volumes about the caliber of man the typical Sheila basher
>>is.
>
No you're not, like most of the cretins in this group you secretly find
Sheila desirable -- you know you do. You need to own up to this. All of
you Sheila bashers need to. Bottom-line, you all want a strong,
no-nonsense woman like her but are too wimpish to admit it. You're only
bashing me because I'm man enough to do what you won't. Now, admit it --
that's the truth of the thing, isn't it?
BARD
--
DaveHatunen
In article <5mrrh5$1m0$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>In article <hatunenE...@netcom.com>,
>DaveHatunen <hat...@netcom.com> wrote:
[...]
>>Coem come, now. She's either a wimpy little thing that needs special
>>care or she's a shit-kickin' lady that doesn't need your pity. Which is
>>it?
>My relationship with Sheila is certainly none of your business and I'd
>appreciate it if you'd restrict yourself to matters that don't concern the
>particulars of such things.
There is no mention of YOUR relationship; it is all about OUR
relationship. Maybe you need some memory pills...
--
********** DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@netcom.com) **********
DaveHatunen
In article <5mrsf0$1ok$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
[...]
>No you're not, like most of the cretins in this group you secretly find
>Sheila desirable -- you know you do. You need to own up to this. All of
>you Sheila bashers need to. Bottom-line, you all want a strong,
>no-nonsense woman like her but are too wimpish to admit it. You're only
>bashing me because I'm man enough to do what you won't. Now, admit it --
>that's the truth of the thing, isn't it?
No, love. It's YOU I find desirable. To hell with stong, no-nonsense
women...
U, "Nat" isn't short for "Natalie", is it?
Kim
>>>Coem come, now. She's either a wimpy little thing that needs special
>>>care or she's a shit-kickin' lady that doesn't need your pity. Which is
>>>it?
>>My relationship with Sheila is certainly none of your business and I'd
>>appreciate it if you'd restrict yourself to matters that don't concern the
>>particulars of such things.
>There is no mention of YOUR relationship;
of his "relationship with Sheila" ... be it real or imagined?
Elizabeth Jones
In article <5mqhf1$sj3$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>
>You got something on you mind just come on out and say. Don't fool around.
>In case you didn't get the message, I don't like the way you meatheads
>gang up on the female in question and its gonna stop. From now on anyone
>mugs are when you're not ganging up on girls.
>
>
Ahh, how I do love the scent of testosterone poisoning on a sunday
morning...
Ebeth "do you lift your leg on fire hydrants, per chance?" Jones
--
"You keep confusing your personal problems for the subject,
which is how the limitation of your privilege is in no way
shape or form a crime against you when such has been, and
remains, obviously excessive." --- Sheila the Word Warrior
Nat Turner
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>No you're not, like most of the cretins in this group you secretly find
>>Sheila desirable -- you know you do. You need to own up to this. All of
>>you Sheila bashers need to. Bottom-line, you all want a strong,
>>no-nonsense woman like her but are too wimpish to admit it. You're only
>>bashing me because I'm man enough to do what you won't. Now, admit it --
>>that's the truth of the thing, isn't it?
>
>No, love. It's YOU I find desirable. To hell with stong, no-nonsense
>women...
>
>U, "Nat" isn't short for "Natalie", is it?
>
>
>
Hmmm, the specter of homosexuality. This fellow is more confused than I
thought. Step away from the terminal, Dave. Put your schlong back in your
trousers where it belongs. Now remove the gerbil, wash it off, return it
to its cage and repeat after me, "Macho, Macho man...I wanna be, a macho
man!"
Make this your personal mantra. By in by, you'll notice the dimunition of
your moral degeneracy and so will your pet gerbil who'll be ever grateful
to you for it.
BARD
--
DaveHatunen
In article <5mqs7b$tp3$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>In article <hatunenE...@netcom.com>,
>DaveHatunen <hat...@netcom.com> wrote:
[...]
>>>Anyway, don't bother to flame me or run your stupid Deja Vu checks on me,
>>>or any of your other silly shit, I'm out of here. The stench of the place
>>>is even too much for my stainless steel nose....
>>
>>Gee. isn't that stainless steel nose a little cold on your spincter?
>And this is exactly the type of scatological attack I'm talking about.
>
>You see, here's a fellow who attributes to me not only what I cannot do,
>but something I'd surely not imagine in my most twisted dreams. All of
>which speaks volumes about the caliber of man the typical Sheila basher
>is.
Don't be silly. I'm not bashing Sheila. I'm bashing you.
--
********** DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@netcom.com) **********
Lon Stowell
SNatCH Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>the streets and stoned the way Sheila has been here.
I've always considered the WOD to be unconstitutional at worst
and misguided at best, but if we can prevent even as little
as ONE more Sheila, I could be convvinced to offer unconditional
support.
DaveHatunen
In article <5msbfl$30a$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>In article <hatunenE...@netcom.com>,
>DaveHatunen <hat...@netcom.com> wrote:
>>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>No you're not, like most of the cretins in this group you secretly find
>>>Sheila desirable -- you know you do. You need to own up to this. All of
>>>you Sheila bashers need to. Bottom-line, you all want a strong,
>>>no-nonsense woman like her but are too wimpish to admit it. You're only
>>>bashing me because I'm man enough to do what you won't. Now, admit it --
>>>that's the truth of the thing, isn't it?
>>
>>No, love. It's YOU I find desirable. To hell with stong, no-nonsense
>>women...
>>
>>U, "Nat" isn't short for "Natalie", is it?
>Hmmm, the specter of homosexuality. This fellow is more confused than I
"Spectre"? Are you haunted by the thought?
>thought. Step away from the terminal, Dave. Put your schlong back in your
>trousers where it belongs. Now remove the gerbil, wash it off, return it
>to its cage and repeat after me, "Macho, Macho man...I wanna be, a macho
>man!"
I don't want to repeat after you. You just keep saying it all alone.
I'm sure you need the re-assurance. And don't worry. Macho macho men
are very attractive.
>Make this your personal mantra. By in by, you'll notice the dimunition of
>your moral degeneracy and so will your pet gerbil who'll be ever grateful
>to you for it.
Don't be silly. I love beiong morally degenerate. Now tell me more
about what a macho macho man you are.
But you didn't answer my question: "Nat" isn't short for "Natalie",
is it?
--
Nat Turner
In article <5mse08$b...@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com>,
If this is your attempt at wry wit, allow me to inform me you over-did
it.
You've made it so wry, there's not a drop of wit left in it.
BARD
--
Glen Quarnstrom
tur...@smarty.smart.net (Nat Turner) wrote:
>I'm with Sheila and I urge everyone else who's sick and tired of the
>narcissism that reigns rampant around here to join me in supporting this
>courageous woman!
Goodbye, TrollBoy. Better luck next newsgroup.
--
"Inaccurate/inapplicable; fallacious regardless."
-- Sheila explains her debating style.
Barbara Mikkelson
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
> Anyway, don't bother to flame me or run your stupid Deja Vu checks on me,
> or any of your other silly shit, I'm out of here. The stench of the place
> is even too much for my stainless steel nose....
$20 on the under.
Barbara "this week Tuesday's child will be full of *something* (definitely
not grace though" Mikkelson
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Barbara Mikkelson
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
> Excuse, me, Miss, I wrote the above post because....
You haven't got the hang of this snubbing thing yet.
Barbara "$30 richer" Mikkelson
--
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bmik...@fas.harvard.edu | - Aaron A. Collins
Clive D.W. Feather
>My relationship with Sheila is certainly none of your business and I'd
>appreciate it if you'd restrict yourself to matters that don't concern the
>particulars of such things.
Hmm. Sheila wouldn't be the name of your AUSTROLOPITHECINE, would it ?
In which case, it *is* our business !
Clive "or weren't you asking for money after all ?" Feather
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Nat Turner
In article <73.194...@toadhall.com>,
Tony Lima <tony...@toadhall.com> wrote:
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>
>NT> I hope you guys are proud of yourselves. And the next time a visitor calls
>NT> you a bunch of effete snobs I don't want to hear a mumbling word. I mean
>NT> it, this is the worst case of Sheila bashing I've seen yet. The whole lot
>NT> of you tumbling over each to get your nasty licks in. Real stand-up guys,
>[snip]
>
>Uh, Nat, care to rephrase that sentence? - Tony "or perhaps it
>was intentional" Lima
>
> * RM 1.31 2547 *
>
>
I'm sure I don't know what in the world you're talking about.
BARD
--
Nat Turner
In article <wqf+oHAB...@on-the-train.demon.co.uk>,
Clive D.W. Feather <cl...@demon.net> wrote:
>In article <5mrrh5$1m0$1...@news.smart.net>, Nat Turner
><tur...@smarty.smart.net> writes
>>My relationship with Sheila is certainly none of your business and I'd
>>appreciate it if you'd restrict yourself to matters that don't concern the
>>particulars of such things.
>
>Hmm. Sheila wouldn't be the name of your AUSTROLOPITHECINE, would it ?
>In which case, it *is* our business !
>
>Clive "or weren't you asking for money after all ?" Feather
>
>--
>Clive D.W. Feather | Director of Software Development | Home email:
Somehow I expected it. Making associations that have nothing in common at
all. This if the kind of fellow when given an ink-blot test keeps
repeating, "Dolly Parton...Dolly Parton...Dolly Parton..." Then after when
you go to lunch and ask him what he wants replies, "I dunno, how about
a double vanilla milk-shake."
Hmmm, I'm not sure this is quite as funny as I was trying for, but it'll
have to do, I'm afraid.
BARD
--
Glen Quarnstrom
bmik...@fas.harvard.edu (Barbara Mikkelson) wrote:
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>
>> Anyway, don't bother to flame me or run your stupid Deja Vu checks on me,
>> or any of your other silly shit, I'm out of here. The stench of the place
>> is even too much for my stainless steel nose....
>
>The only thing I love more than a good Norma Desmond of a grand exit
>is when the twit who resorted to it keeps slinking back to add to the
>performance. Entertainment like that money just can't buy.
Ain't that the truth. In fact, the more heated and grandiloquent the
protestations of leaving, the more sure you can be that the twit will
be back the next day, and the next, and...
There's probably a formula for this, somewhere.
>Tell me again how you're "out of here," Nat.
Yeah, I'm collecting these swan songs. It should make an interesting
book.
DaveHatunen
In article <5mvrv9$iiv$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>You mean you're trying to be funny? You're so cute...
>And there you go again with your bad imitation of a cool gay guy. Y'know,
Gee. I never thougth of myself as cool. Do you think gay guys are cool?
>it would a far better thing if you'd be a bit more forthright about your
>sexual orientation. No reason to be shy. Whatever the depth of your moral
>erosion you'll yourself in good company here.
You know. You sound kind of intersted in this moral erosion stuff. Why
else would you keep responding to me?
Anyone else out there with gaydar that this guy registers on?
Or does "Nat" stand for "Natalie"?
DaveHatunen
In article <5mvv03$j4n$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>In article <19970601082...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
>the net. Men, it seems, are drawn to her like bees to honey, and so,
You seem to have misplet "flies to shit".
>although her heart is big as all out-doors, she is, of course, only
>capable of giving so much of herself to the hungry horde. Thus she
>has hit on a exceedingly clever way of teasing these salivating baboons.
>She has incorporated a collection of stock phrases into her posts that
>have been dazzling in their ability to extend her hypnotic affect; that
>is, drive the levels of testosterone so boiling hot in these
>ignorant apes that it lately has been erupting from their noses, ears, eye
>sockets and at least two other orifices and steaming out of their cages
>like ape shit (which is what most apes shit) into the streets and gutters
>of this fair newsgroup.
Gee. You're really obssessed by this sex stuff...
>Alarmed and disgusted by the sticky mess, some of the more conservative
>members of this group declared all out war on the lady, and seemed
>at first set in this martial resolve until, a las, they could not stop
>the green goo from spilling from both sides of their own mouths as they
>stood and made such grand displays of delivering their simpering "me too"
>condemnations of this foul menace to society, this cruel Svengali-like
>creature, this impossibly evil woman known as Sheila "Word Warrior"
>Greenn....
Are you turned on by goo dripping out of the sides of yoru mouth?
>And that in a nutshell is what this Sheila thing is all about.
Tell us more about how you seem to get off on the image of goo dripping
form the sides of mouths...
Nat Turner
In article <5ms4gn$7...@universe.digex.net>,
Elizabeth Jones <eb...@universe.digex.net> wrote:
>In article <5mqhf1$sj3$1...@news.smart.net>,
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>
>>You got something on you mind just come on out and say. Don't fool around.
>>In case you didn't get the message, I don't like the way you meatheads
>>gang up on the female in question and its gonna stop. From now on anyone
>>who bothers her will have me to contend with. Now, let's see how tough
>>mugs are when you're not ganging up on girls.
>>
>>BARD
>>
>
>Ahh, how I do love the scent of testosterone poisoning on a sunday
>morning...
>
>Ebeth "do you lift your leg on fire hydrants, per chance?" Jones
>
>
>--
Hmmm, it seems extraordinary that someone with a name as elegant as
"Elizabeth" would give us such vulgar imagery. You, madam, are neither a
lady or a scholar....
BARD
--
Nat Turner
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>In article <hatunenE...@netcom.com>,
>>DaveHatunen <hat...@netcom.com> wrote:
Hmm, and now we see what's known in some circles as the homosexual "death
march." This is similar to what George Foreman does in the ring, folks. No
wit, no technique, just a zombie-like stalking of the moving blur in
front. Indeed, it was in fact persistence like this that made AIDS a
household word.
BARD
--
DaveHatunen
In article <5n07i2$ke5$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>In article <5ms4gn$7...@universe.digex.net>,
>Elizabeth Jones <eb...@universe.digex.net> wrote:
[...]
>>Ebeth "do you lift your leg on fire hydrants, per chance?" Jones
>Hmmm, it seems extraordinary that someone with a name as elegant as
>"Elizabeth" would give us such vulgar imagery.
You are apparently ignorant of the nature of Elizabethan times.
>You, madam, are neither a
>lady or a scholar....
>
>BARD
And you are not a bard. What's your point?
--
********** DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@netcom.com) **********
* Daly City California: *
Owen
On 3 Jun 1997 04:52:59 GMT, tur...@smarty.smart.net (Nat Turner)
wrote:
>
>I'll wager you my paid-up net account to your John Tesh recond collection
>9 out of 10 AFU subscribers never heard of Norma Desmond.
I'm not getting into the bashing, but I believe Norma Desmond was the
main character from the movie "Sunset Boulevard", as well as the
Broadway adaptation. Carol Burnett did a parody as well featuring
"Nora Desmond".
I'll go back to my seat now .....
"Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never --
in nothing, great or small, large or petty...never give in except
to convictions of honor and good sense."--Winston Churchill
DaveHatunen
In article <5n0tld$n4v$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>In article <hatunenE...@netcom.com>,
>DaveHatunen <hat...@netcom.com> wrote:
[...]
>>Don't be silly. I love beiong morally degenerate. Now tell me more
>>about what a macho macho man you are.
>>
>>But you didn't answer my question: "Nat" isn't short for "Natalie",
>>is it?
>Hmm, and now we see what's known in some circles as the homosexual "death
>march." This is similar to what George Foreman does in the ring, folks. No
>wit, no technique, just a zombie-like stalking of the moving blur in
>front. Indeed, it was in fact persistence like this that made AIDS a
>household word.
AIDS has indeed been a household word for me. You should tread
carefully here.
You seem to have an overt homophobia. A little repressed, eh? But it
kind of turns you on, doesn't it?
Dave Blake
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> treats us to the following...
>Simply put, Sheila Green is one of the most interesting personalities on
>the net.
You're using the word "interesting" as an euphemism, right?
>Men, it seems, are drawn to her like bees to honey,
... or flies to shit.
>and so,
>although her heart is big as all out-doors, she is, of course, only
>capable of giving so much of herself to the hungry horde.
What a shame. We all so look forward to her pearls of wisdom.
>Thus she
>has hit on a exceedingly clever way of teasing these salivating baboons.
>She has incorporated a collection of stock phrases into her posts that
>have been dazzling in their ability to extend her hypnotic affect;
Yes, hundreds if not thousands of readers have been fumbling around
their keyboards mumbling "Where's the killfile? Wehere's the killfile".
>that
>is, drive the levels of testosterone so boiling hot in these
>ignorant apes that it lately has been erupting from their noses, ears, eye
>sockets and at least two other orifices and steaming out of their cages
>like ape shit (which is what most apes shit) into the streets and gutters
>of this fair newsgroup.
>
It is not too late to see a therapist, you know.
>Alarmed and disgusted by the sticky mess, some of the more conservative
>members of this group declared all out war on the lady, and seemed
>at first set in this martial resolve until, a las, they could not stop
>the green goo from spilling from both sides of their own mouths as they
>stood and made such grand displays of delivering their simpering "me too"
>condemnations of this foul menace to society, this cruel Svengali-like
>creature, this impossibly evil woman known as Sheila "Word Warrior"
>Greenn....
>
>And that in a nutshell is what this Sheila thing is all about.
Ahem, bollocks. All members of AFU want to do is to try to keep posts
reasonably on topic. If you and Sheila want to post some signal, we'll
be happy to read your posts. If you want to continue to ramble on in
your confused and insulting manner all you will do is force more of us
to try to remember how our killfile files work.
--
Dave Blake
London Mitcham Southminster
"This was an example of carefully wrought STUPIDITY
supported by EXTENSIVE RESEARCH."
- Kevin T Keith 1997
Laurence Doering
In article <5mvv03$j4n$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>
>Simply put, Sheila Green is one of the most interesting personalities on
>although her heart is big as all out-doors, she is, of course, only
>
>And that in a nutshell is what this Sheila thing is all about.
Sheesh, BARD, why don't you and Sheila just get a *room* already?
I do admit the sight of you attempting to woo her via Usenet is
moderately entertaining (though it's a mystery to me why anyone
would want to get close to someone who's likely to start shouting,
"Irrelevant/inapplicable; fallacious regardless" at the drop of
a hat), but don't you think you might have better luck with a
more personal approach via email?
Larry "advice to the [understandably] lovelorn" Doering
Christine Gazak
>In article <5mqqjp$tjh$1...@news.smart.net>,
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>
>>Yeah, but I was so impressed with the way she returned and slam-dunked
>>everybody, I've changed my mind -- Sheila is a fighter which is more
>>than I can say for the raft of you nattering nabobs of negativism who
>>think it's such grand sport to seek out and destroy a woman because she
>>has enough gumption to refuse to kow-tow to the elitist claptrap you guys
>>shovel by the bucket-full around here.
They're so cute when they're desperate for a fuck. I bet some kind of poem is
next.
Christine
Ted Wong
I should resist in replying, but as part of the Great Wite Male
Konspiratory Kabal (ironic smile suppressed) I can't.
Nat Turner wrote:
> Simply put, Sheila Green is one of the most interesting personalities on
> the net. Men, it seems, are drawn to her like bees to honey, and so,
> although her heart is big as all out-doors, she is, of course, only
> capable of giving so much of herself to the hungry horde. Thus she
> has hit on a exceedingly clever way of teasing these salivating baboons.
Men? I think you might want to check with the M. Pages, J. Schmitzes,
and B. Mikkelsons of the world before pursuing this thread.
Oh wait. A further review of your posts shows that your still retain
some archaic notions about what correctly defines a woman, namely that
she be demure, genteel, and willing to put up with whatever drivel comes
over the newsfeed. And that she requires a Man (TM) to defend her honor
rights, being incapable of doing so for herself. Never mind.
> She has incorporated a collection of stock phrases into her posts that
> have been dazzling in their ability to extend her hypnotic affect;
:
Or how about this: "She has incorporated a collection of stock phrases
into her posts that have been illuminating of her inability to carry on
a meaningful intellectual discourse. She has also demonstrated the
willingness to misrepresent the views of her opponents to support her
simple-minded arguments."
> Alarmed and disgusted by the sticky mess, some of the more conservative
> members of this group declared all out war on the lady, and seemed
> at first set in this martial resolve until, a las, they could not stop
> the green goo from spilling from both sides of their own mouths as they
> stood and made such grand displays of delivering their simpering "me too"
> condemnations of this foul menace to society, this cruel Svengali-like
> creature, this impossibly evil woman known as Sheila "Word Warrior"
> Greenn....
>
> And that in a nutshell is what this Sheila thing is all about.
It seems that you're smoking the same stuff as Shelia is. The evidence:
1. Resorting to sweeping generalizations to push an otherwise untenable
position. For WW, it's "all whites and other non-supporters of AA are
racists". For you "everyone hates Shelia 'cause she's a woman".
2. Rapid descent into ad hominem remarks utterly unconnected with any
available evidence. Oh, and by the way, calling people gay isn't much of
an insult these days; just ask Ge*r*e John*ton (who odly doesn't post
much here anymore).
3. Claiming to speak for an oppressed class that is probably better off
without your advocacy.
So let me sum this up for you:
Alarmed and disgusted by the off-topic and generally vapid posts
emmanating from the WW, the denizens of AFU, *of varying shades and
sexes*, responded with a tidal wave of condemnation. A self-appointed
white knight with a curiously one-dimensional point of view stepped in
to recast a "sense vs. stupidity" problem into a "man vs. woman", and so
provoked the denizens again.
And that in a nutshell is what this BARD thing had become.
Ted "idiocy is clearly an equal-opportunities employer" Wong
--
Ted Wong | DISCLAIMER: Cornell's opinions do
<tm...@cornell.edu> | not necessarily reflect mine.
Information Technology Section | WARNING: Reading this posting may be
Mann Library, Cornell University | hazardous to your productivity.
Nat Turner
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>In article <5ms4gn$7...@universe.digex.net>,
>>Elizabeth Jones <eb...@universe.digex.net> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>>Ebeth "do you lift your leg on fire hydrants, per chance?" Jones
>
>>Hmmm, it seems extraordinary that someone with a name as elegant as
>>"Elizabeth" would give us such vulgar imagery.
>
>You are apparently ignorant of the nature of Elizabethan times.
>
>>You, madam, are neither a
>>lady or a scholar....
>>
>>BARD
>
>And you are not a bard. What's your point?
>
>
Excuse me, Dave, don't do that. My post was a direct reply to someone who
made a direct reply to something I posted. You've now made it difficult
for her to continue the dialog. I promise you I'll resist butting into
your dialogs(something I'd never be as rude to do in any event).
BARD
--
Barbara Mikkelson
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
> I'll wager you my paid-up net account to your John Tesh recond collection
> 9 out of 10 AFU subscribers never heard of Norma Desmond.
You've got to be kidding. Who *hasn't* heard of Marilyn Monroe?
Barbara "I *am* big. It's the *pictures* that got small" Mikkelson
--
Barbara Mikkelson | Well, it wouldn't be folklore if I had
bmik...@fas.harvard.edu | details. - Charles Copeland
DaveHatunen
In article <5n34bc$v1q$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>In article <hatunenE...@netcom.com>,
>DaveHatunen <hat...@netcom.com> wrote:
>>In article <5n07i2$ke5$1...@news.smart.net>,
>>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>>In article <5ms4gn$7...@universe.digex.net>,
>>>Elizabeth Jones <eb...@universe.digex.net> wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>>Ebeth "do you lift your leg on fire hydrants, per chance?" Jones
>>
>>>Hmmm, it seems extraordinary that someone with a name as elegant as
>>>"Elizabeth" would give us such vulgar imagery.
>>
>>You are apparently ignorant of the nature of Elizabethan times.
>>
>>>You, madam, are neither a
>>>lady or a scholar....
>>>
>>>BARD
>>
>>And you are not a bard. What's your point?
>Excuse me, Dave, don't do that. My post was a direct reply to someone who
>made a direct reply to something I posted. You've now made it difficult
>for her to continue the dialog. I promise you I'll resist butting into
>your dialogs(something I'd never be as rude to do in any event).
Post on Usenet and it's fair game for everyone. That's what Usenet is
all about. Personal communications are made by email.
Feel free to butt into any dialogue I have on Usenet.
How come your language suddenly got so calm?
--
********** DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@netcom.com) **********
* Daly City California: *
DaveHatunen
In article <5n42ut$2ft$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>In article <5n3lhm$e8p$1...@nntp2.ba.best.com>,
>Barbara Mikkelson <bmik...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll wager you my paid-up net account to your John Tesh recond collection
>>> 9 out of 10 AFU subscribers never heard of Norma Desmond.
>>
>>You've got to be kidding. Who *hasn't* heard of Marilyn Monroe?
>>
>>Barbara "I *am* big. It's the *pictures* that got small" Mikkelson
>The trick with writing humor, dearie, is making sure folks get your gag.
>Obscure references don't accomplish this -- generally speaking, that is.
Boy, are you in the wrong group. This group specializes in obscure
references. If you would just drop your poseur attitude and try it, you
might like it.
There's LOTS of things you might like if you just tried them.
>If this were a film group Norma Desmond might work, but it isn't, so the
>reference was a poor one. However, I think it almost worked. And there are
>times when obscure references work beautifully; but this wasn't one of
>them. The reference, as I say, was just a tad too far-stretched...only a
It worked for me.
>tad, mind you. In fact, come to think of it, I could be completely wrong
>here. I *am* taking a chance, see. Kinda like the way the offending poster
>did. Let's wait for the feedback. This one may be too close to call. I
>have no interest in playing king of Pyrrhus to your Punchinello.
Elizabeth Jones
In article <5n34bc$v1q$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>
>Excuse me, Dave, don't do that. My post was a direct reply to someone who
>made a direct reply to something I posted. You've now made it difficult
>for her to continue the dialog. I promise you I'll resist butting into
>your dialogs(something I'd never be as rude to do in any event).
>
I didn't think I needed to continue the dialogue once I had a
chivalrous knight to defend my maidenly honor.
Ebeth "was that lady-like enough?" Jones
--
"You keep confusing your personal problems for the subject,
which is how the limitation of your privilege is in no way
shape or form a crime against you when such has been, and
remains, obviously excessive." --- Sheila the Word Warrior
DaveHatunen
In article <5n4ddi$4...@universe.digex.net>,
Elizabeth Jones <eb...@universe.digex.net> wrote:
>In article <5n34bc$v1q$1...@news.smart.net>,
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>
>>Excuse me, Dave, don't do that. My post was a direct reply to someone who
>>made a direct reply to something I posted. You've now made it difficult
>>for her to continue the dialog. I promise you I'll resist butting into
>>your dialogs(something I'd never be as rude to do in any event).
>>
>>BARD
>>
>I didn't think I needed to continue the dialogue once I had a
>chivalrous knight to defend my maidenly honor.
>
>Ebeth "was that lady-like enough?" Jones
If I could but have a token, milady, a handkerchief perhaps...
Nat Turner
In article <01bc70f2$e5c94260$e98d...@JamesLinn.bnr.ca>,
James Linn <james...@nortel.com> wrote:
>
>
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote in article
><5n34bc$v1q$1...@news.smart.net>...
>>
>> Excuse me, Dave, don't do that. My post was a direct reply to someone who
>> made a direct reply to something I posted. You've now made it difficult
>> for her to continue the dialog. I promise you I'll resist butting into
>> your dialogs(something I'd never be as rude to do in any event).
>
>to other people's dialogs?
>
>James Linn
>My opinions are MINE,MINE,MINE!!!
No, sir, I never butt into an ongoing dialog; moreover, I've responded to
each of Dave's posts immediately. But more importantly, he added nothing
worth reading to the exchange Elizabeth and I were having. The only thing
he managed to do was send the exchange in an entirely oblique direction.
BARD
--
Nat Turner
>Elizabeth Jones <eb...@universe.digex.net> wrote:
>>In article <5n34bc$v1q$1...@news.smart.net>,
>>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>made a direct reply to something I posted. You've now made it difficult
>>>for her to continue the dialog. I promise you I'll resist butting into
>>>your dialogs(something I'd never be as rude to do in any event).
>>>
>>>
>>I didn't think I needed to continue the dialogue once I had a
>>chivalrous knight to defend my maidenly honor.
>>
He's having a hard enough time defending his own maidenly honor.
BARD
>
>--
>
>
> ********** DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@netcom.com) **********
> * Daly City California: *
> * where San Francisco meets The Peninsula *
> * and the San Andreas Fault meets the Sea *
> *******************************************************
>
--
lla...@bellatlantic.net
(Nat Turner) wrote:
>
> DaveHatunen wrote:
> >Nat Turner wrote:
> >>Elizabeth Jones wrote:
> >>>Ebeth "do you lift your leg on fire hydrants, per chance?" Jones
> >>Hmmm, it seems extraordinary that someone with a name as elegant as
> >>"Elizabeth" would give us such vulgar imagery.
> >You are apparently ignorant of the nature of Elizabethan times.
> >>You, madam, are neither a
> >>lady or a scholar....
> >>BARD
> >And you are not a bard. What's your point?
> Excuse me, Dave, don't do that. My post was a direct reply to someone who
> made a direct reply to something I posted. You've now made it difficult
> for her to continue the dialog. I promise you I'll resist butting into
> your dialogs(something I'd never be as rude to do in any event).
Sheeeeit. Yo Dave, whassa matter wit'you, man? Y'tink this is Usenet or
sometin *public* like dat? I knew you was crude, but dis is low even fer
you.
Somebody go get Mr. Smoothie to 'splain good manners to Dave here, or if
Justin ain't around, see if youse can find Jeffrey. Dave always listens
to Jeffrey's wise advice.
--
Linda 'f.k.a. Marchioness Wallowin Buttinski' Lawson
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Jerry Bauer
In article <339599...@unix.tamu.edu>,
David Martin <k29...@unix.tamu.edu> wrote:
>Nat Turner wrote:
>
>> The trick with writing humor, dearie, is making sure folks get your gag.
>> Obscure references don't accomplish this -- generally speaking, that is.
>> reference was a poor one. However, I think it almost worked. And there are
>> times when obscure references work beautifully; but this wasn't one of
>> them. The reference, as I say, was just a tad too far-stretched...only a
>> here. I *am* taking a chance, see. Kinda like the way the offending poster
>> did. Let's wait for the feedback. This one may be too close to call. I
>> have no interest in playing king of Pyrrhus to your Punchinello.
>
>while after following Sheila into the group, you would know that there
>is a fair degree of knowledge and sophistication represented in the
>group. If you had followed the bunny wars or official animal nonsense,
>you'd know that even the juvenile debates on AFU involve a level of
>intellectual interplay uncommon on usenet. If you had lurked at all
>you would also know that Barbara knows her audience quite well.
>
>David "I'm ready for my close-up" Martin
Erudition is best presented with dignity. Admiration is most
satisfying when it is honorably earned.
An aptitude for winning "Trivial Pursuit" is nice, as far as it goes,
but knowledge is not wisdom.
It is disheartening to see people post articles just to compete in
some kind of social-dominance scenario. Much more pleasant and
enjoyable is the good-natured wordplay and banter that most of the
"regulars" engage in.
I don't know who played the king of Pyrrus, but Erik Estrada played
Punchinello, didn't he? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Barbara.
Jerry Randal Bauer
Richard Brandt
Nat Turner wrote:
> It don't matter. Her reference still doesn't work. Again, it comes across
> as elitist in anything but a film group.
Oh, puh-leez. You're saying no one outside a film group is competent to
recognize a reference to Norma friggin' Desmond? Talk about elitist.
You'll excuse me, I have to hop over to alt.cult-movies and delete all
the "FARGO SUCKS!" headers.
> Mind you, I'm not saying that the
> writer most write for the proverbial 9th or 10th grade reading level, but
> that the reference is just too obviously an attempt at snobbery. Nothing
> wrong with snobbery, however, if it's done right -- with wit. Hers hadn't
> any.
I get it now. You're a twit, aren't you?
Richard "Besides, everyone knows Norma Desmond Taylor was murdered ages
ago"
Brandt
==============================================================
http://rgfn.epcc.edu/users/af541/virtual.htm
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and lots of foul language because New Yorkers just can't help
themselves." -- CNN Online's Paul Tatara
Lon Stowell
Responding to our budding BARD, Christine Gazak <cga...@dfpm.utah.edu> wrote:
>
>They're so cute when they're desperate for a fuck. I bet some kind of poem is
>next.
>
Lawrence Kubicz
Nat Turner wrote:
>
> In article <5n3lhm$e8p$1...@nntp2.ba.best.com>,
> Barbara Mikkelson <bmik...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
> >Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I'll wager you my paid-up net account to your John Tesh recond collection
> >> 9 out of 10 AFU subscribers never heard of Norma Desmond.
> >
> >You've got to be kidding. Who *hasn't* heard of Marilyn Monroe?
> The trick with writing humor, dearie, is making sure folks get your gag.
> Obscure references don't accomplish this -- generally speaking, that is.
> If this were a film group Norma Desmond might work, but it isn't, so the
> reference was a poor one. However, I think it almost worked. And there are
> times when obscure references work beautifully; but this wasn't one of
> them. The reference, as I say, was just a tad too far-stretched...only a
> tad, mind you.
Nine out of ten of us got it.
> This one may be too close to call. I
> have no interest in playing king of Pyrrhus to your Punchinello.
What's that you were saying about obscure references?
Larry "Lecturing Babs on how to be funny -- now THAT's funny!" Kubicz
Lon Stowell
>The self-proclaimed "BARD" Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>Hmmm, it seems extraordinary that someone with a name as elegant as
>>"Elizabeth" would give us such vulgar imagery.
No, this is the faustus lurkers have heard that this would be
a surprise. Why canterbury this tired old tale and leave
us alone, for we have chaucer subjects to discuss.
I've always wanted to say "AROINT THEE" to someone, this seems
an appropriate excuse.
Rick Tyler
On Tue, 03 Jun 1997 10:02:54 -0400, Ted Wong <tm...@cornell.edu> wrote:
:I should resist in replying, but as part of the Great Wite Male
:Konspiratory Kabal (ironic smile suppressed) I can't.
:
:Nat Turner wrote:
:
:> Simply put, Sheila Green is one of the most interesting personalities on
:> the net. Men, it seems, are drawn to her like bees to honey, and so,
<great snippage>
:
:Alarmed and disgusted by the off-topic and generally vapid posts
:emmanating from the WW, the denizens of AFU, *of varying shades and
:sexes*, responded with a tidal wave of condemnation. A self-appointed
:white knight with a curiously one-dimensional point of view stepped in
:to recast a "sense vs. stupidity" problem into a "man vs. woman", and so
:provoked the denizens again.
:
:And that in a nutshell is what this BARD thing had become.
:
I've pretty much concluded that Turner is this week's Swamp Fox.
*plonk*
-- Rick "The wheel just keeps on turning" Tyler
-----------------------------------------
There's no "killspam" in my real address.
DaveHatunen
In article <5n4j3i$49k$1...@news.smart.net>,
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>In article <339599...@unix.tamu.edu>,
>David Martin <k29...@unix.tamu.edu> wrote:
>>Nat Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Obscure references don't accomplish this -- generally speaking, that is.
>>> If this were a film group Norma Desmond might work, but it isn't, so the
>>> reference was a poor one. However, I think it almost worked. And there are
>>> times when obscure references work beautifully; but this wasn't one of
>>> them. The reference, as I say, was just a tad too far-stretched...only a
>>> here. I *am* taking a chance, see. Kinda like the way the offending poster
>>> have no interest in playing king of Pyrrhus to your Punchinello.
>>
>>while after following Sheila into the group, you would know that there
>>is a fair degree of knowledge and sophistication represented in the
>>group. If you had followed the bunny wars or official animal nonsense,
>>you'd know that even the juvenile debates on AFU involve a level of
>>intellectual interplay uncommon on usenet. If you had lurked at all
>>you would also know that Barbara knows her audience quite well.
>>
>>David "I'm ready for my close-up" Martin
>
>
To whom? You? Wellll, sure...
>Again, it comes across as elitist in anything but a film group.
But AFU is elitist. But it's a meritist elitism.
>Mind you, I'm not saying that the
>writer most write for the proverbial 9th or 10th grade reading level, but
>that the reference is just too obviously an attempt at snobbery. Nothing
>wrong with snobbery, however, if it's done right -- with wit. Hers hadn't
>any.
Oh, I think even she'd admit it wasn't her best. But it still worked.
You need to lurk around the group some more instead of sticking to yoru
pet threads.
--
********** DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@netcom.com) **********
Barbara Mikkelson
Hey, I'm like Louella Parsons -- give me an Ince and I'll take a column.
Barbara "the hearst of both worlds"
--
| I have hope for the world. For the first
Barbara Mikkelson | time ever in the history of civilization,
bmik...@fas.harvard.edu | someone is being berated for not being a
| redneck. - Bo Bradham
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Nat Turner
In article <33963bfb....@news.concentric.net>,
Rick Tyler <rty...@concentric.net.killspam> wrote:
>On 4 Jun 1997 20:27:30 GMT, tur...@smarty.smart.net (Nat Turner)
>wrote:
>
>:>Your mistake is to under-estimate the audience. If you had lurked a
>:>is a fair degree of knowledge and sophistication represented in the
>:>group. If you had followed the bunny wars or official animal nonsense,
>:>you'd know that even the juvenile debates on AFU involve a level of
>:>intellectual interplay uncommon on usenet. If you had lurked at all
>:>you would also know that Barbara knows her audience quite well.
>:>
>:>David "I'm ready for my close-up" Martin
>:
>:as elitist in anything but a film group. Mind you, I'm not saying that the
>:writer most write for the proverbial 9th or 10th grade reading level, but
>:that the reference is just too obviously an attempt at snobbery. Nothing
>:wrong with snobbery, however, if it's done right -- with wit. Hers hadn't
>:any.
>
>Pearls before swine.
>Pearls before swine.
>
>-- Rick
And you say precisely nothing above, Rick. You obviously wouldn't no wit
if it walked up to you and belched right in your face.
BARD
>-----------------------------------------
>
>There's no "killspam" in my real address.
--
Nat Turner
In article <339627...@cris.com>, Richard Brandt <rsbr...@cris.com> wrote:
>Nat Turner wrote:
>
>> It don't matter. Her reference still doesn't work. Again, it comes across
>> as elitist in anything but a film group.
>
>recognize a reference to Norma friggin' Desmond? Talk about elitist.
Yes, that's approximately correct.
>
>You'll excuse me, I have to hop over to alt.cult-movies and delete all
>the "FARGO SUCKS!" headers.
This is important information we needed to know?
>
>> Mind you, I'm not saying that the
>> writer must write for the proverbial 9th or 10th grade reading level,
but
>> that the reference is just too obviously an attempt at snobbery. Nothing
>> wrong with snobbery, however, if it's done right -- with wit. Hers hadn't
>> any.
>
>I get it now. You're a twit, aren't you?
>
There you go with those obscure references again.
BARD
>Richard "Besides, everyone knows Norma Desmond Taylor was murdered ages
>ago"
>Brandt
>==============================================================
>http://rgfn.epcc.edu/users/af541/virtual.htm
>"'Night Falls on Manhattan' contains one very bloody shooting,
>and lots of foul language because New Yorkers just can't help
>themselves." -- CNN Online's Paul Tatara
--
Nat Turner
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>>In article <339599...@unix.tamu.edu>,
>>David Martin <k29...@unix.tamu.edu> wrote:
>>>Nat Turner wrote:
>>>
>>>> The trick with writing humor, dearie, is making sure folks get your gag.
>>>> Obscure references don't accomplish this -- generally speaking, that is.
>>>> If this were a film group Norma Desmond might work, but it isn't, so the
>>>> reference was a poor one. However, I think it almost worked. And there are
>>>> times when obscure references work beautifully; but this wasn't one of
>>>> them. The reference, as I say, was just a tad too far-stretched...only a
>>>> tad, mind you. In fact, come to think of it, I could be completely wrong
>>>> here. I *am* taking a chance, see. Kinda like the way the offending poster
>>>> did. Let's wait for the feedback. This one may be too close to call. I
>>>> have no interest in playing king of Pyrrhus to your Punchinello.
>>>
>>>while after following Sheila into the group, you would know that there
>>>is a fair degree of knowledge and sophistication represented in the
>>>group. If you had followed the bunny wars or official animal nonsense,
>>>you'd know that even the juvenile debates on AFU involve a level of
>>>intellectual interplay uncommon on usenet. If you had lurked at all
>>>you would also know that Barbara knows her audience quite well.
>>>
>>>David "I'm ready for my close-up" Martin
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>>wrong with snobbery, however, if it's done right -- with wit. Hers hadn't
>>any.
>
>You need to lurk around the group some more instead of sticking to yoru
>pet threads.
>
>
>
Hmm, well at least you've dropped your homosexual "Night of the Living
Dead" routine. What was that all about anyway? Do you mean to tell me that
kind of low-grade het-baiting actually passed as wit around here?
BARD
--
lla...@bellatlantic.net
In article <5n5rgq$jr0$1...@nntp2.ba.best.com>,
bmik...@fas.harvard.edu (Barbara Mikkelson) wrote:
>
> Hey, I'm like Louella Parsons -- give me an Ince and I'll take a column.
>
> Barbara "the hearst of both worlds"
> --
Now you're showing off, right? So I can ask what or who is Ince without
being banned from the elite?
--
Linda 'fondly recalling the adventures of Tania myself' Lawson
[oops, 'i' or 'y'? damn, they always say the vowels are the first to go]
lla...@bellatlantic.net
(Nat Turner) wrote:
>
> In article <hatunenE...@netcom.com>,
> DaveHatunen <hat...@netcom.com> wrote:
> >In article <5n4j3i$49k$1...@news.smart.net>,
> >Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
> >>In article <339599...@unix.tamu.edu>,
> >>David Martin <k29...@unix.tamu.edu> wrote:
> >>>Nat Turner wrote:
<snip meaningful dialogue>
> Hmm, well at least you've dropped your homosexual "Night of the Living
> Dead" routine. What was that all about anyway? Do you mean to tell me that
> kind of low-grade het-baiting actually passed as wit around here?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nobody *means* to tell you anything - that's what elitism is all about.
And this is my last free clue for you Bard, after this they're going back
to the regular price of two-fifty each.
--
Linda 'and you misplet "rampant pendancy" ' Lawson
Lon Stowell
David Martin <k29...@unix.tamu.edu> wrote:
>
>Your mistake is to under-estimate the audience. If you had lurked a
>while after following Sheila into the group, you would know that there
>is a fair degree of knowledge and sophistication represented in the
>group. If you had followed the bunny wars or official animal nonsense,
>you'd know that even the juvenile debates on AFU involve a level of
>intellectual interplay uncommon on usenet. If you had lurked at all
>you would also know that Barbara knows her audience quite well.
If our budding BARD had lurked even longer he might have figured
out that rec.org.mensa is populated solely by those poor
individuals who can't hack the higher standards of AFU, where
reality is an issue.
Lon Stowell
Rick Tyler <rty...@concentric.net.killspam> wrote:
>
>Sigh.
>Pearls before swine.
>Pearls before swine.
>-- Rick
Good luck with the slander lawsuit the American Association
of Dumb Swine has just filed against you for that comparison.
Nat Turner
In article <01bc71bf$4043ab00$e98d...@JamesLinn.bnr.ca>,
James Linn <james...@nortel.com> wrote:
>
>
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote in article
><5n4ht0$43s$1...@news.smart.net>...
>> In article <01bc70f2$e5c94260$e98d...@JamesLinn.bnr.ca>,
>> James Linn <james...@nortel.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote in article
>> ><5n34bc$v1q$1...@news.smart.net>...
>> >>
>> >> Excuse me, Dave, don't do that. My post was a direct reply to someone
>who
>> >> made a direct reply to something I posted. You've now made it
>difficult
>> >> for her to continue the dialog. I promise you I'll resist butting into
>> >> your dialogs(something I'd never be as rude to do in any event).
>> >
>in
>> >to other people's dialogs?
>> >
>> >James Linn
>> >My opinions are MINE,MINE,MINE!!!
>>
>>
>> No, sir, I never butt into an ongoing dialog; moreover, I've responded to
>> each of Dave's posts immediately.
>
>didn't start it, or reply to one of Sheila's posts.
Actually, I did start it.
>
>>But more importantly, he added nothing
>> worth reading to the exchange Elizabeth and I were having.
>
>Thats an opinion and a value judgement. And given the tone and tenor some
>of your recent postings, I value Dave's judgement more than yours, even
>when he shows a propensity to flame me (perhaps deservedly sometimes).
>
Of course it's an opinion and value judgment -- what else would it be?
>
>>The only thing
>> he managed to do was send the exchange in an entirely oblique direction.
>
>Such is the nature of usenet. Been here long??
>
It may be, but this is not the point. As I say, I've answered all of his
follow-up posts immediately. My purpose in doing this is to insure our
exchanges are as direct as possible. I was only attempting to do the same
with Elizabeth when he butt-in with an entirely off-the-wall comment.
The result of this is that Elizabeth winds up responding to his comment
rather than my follow-up. Does he have the right to do this? Yes. Is there
anything I can do to stop him? No. Do I have a right to ask him not to do
it? Yes. And that's all I'm doing. Now what exactly are you doing?
BARD
>
>James Linn
>My opinions are MINE,MINE,MINE!!!
>
--
Alan Krueger
In article <5n52pa$g...@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com>,
Lon Stowell <lsto...@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com> wrote:
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> highly confused about the
>differences between a public newsgroup and private email, wrote:
>>
>>Excuse me, Dave, don't do that. My post was a direct reply to someone who
>>made a direct reply to something I posted. You've now made it difficult
>>for her to continue the dialog. I promise you I'll resist butting into
>>your dialogs(something I'd never be as rude to do in any event).
>
> surprised if all those millions of users on millions of hosts
> in the internet respond.
>
> We would think you were just another Word Worrier alias, but
> frankly, you lack her originality and wit.
>
Well, at least we can understand what he's saying. He can write complete,
comprehensible sentences.
--
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Graduate Student |--------------------------------------------------------
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Nat Turner
In article <8655413...@dejanews.com>, <lla...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>(Nat Turner) wrote:
>>
>> In article <hatunenE...@netcom.com>,
>> DaveHatunen <hat...@netcom.com> wrote:
>> >In article <5n4j3i$49k$1...@news.smart.net>,
>> >Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> wrote:
>> >>In article <339599...@unix.tamu.edu>,
>> >>David Martin <k29...@unix.tamu.edu> wrote:
>> >>>Nat Turner wrote:
>
><snip meaningful dialogue>
>
>> Hmm, well at least you've dropped your homosexual "Night of the Living
>> Dead" routine. What was that all about anyway? Do you mean to tell me that
>> kind of low-grade het-baiting actually passed as wit around here?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Nobody *means* to tell you anything - that's what elitism is all about.
>
>And this is my last free clue for you Bard, after this they're going back
>to the regular price of two-fifty each.
>
>--
>Linda 'and you misplet "rampant pendancy" ' Lawson
>
"Two-fifty each." Is that what you pay people to listen to your sophistry?
BARD
--
Barbara Mikkelson
lla...@bellatlantic.net wrote:
> Now you're showing off, right? So I can ask what or who is Ince without
> being banned from the elite?
The tongue-in-cheek answer is that Thomas Ince was a producer/director in
the 1920's. He was known for his Westerns.
Boring, right? Okay, there's a *bit* more to it than that.
It's a tale of scandal and mayhem, the very rich and the very ambitious,
the beautiful, the famous and the untouchable. A mysterious death and a
columnist who was rumoured to have made her career from having seen it all
and then known what price to demand for her silence. Like I said, give
Louella an Ince and she'd take a column.
http://www.snopes.com/movies/other/ince.htm for all the scandalous detail
of it. Still very much a draft, but what the heck.
Barbara "oneida shade" Mikkelson
--
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bmik...@fas.harvard.edu | - Brian Jones
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Elizabeth Jones
Alas, all I have on hand is a slightly used kleenex...
Ebeth "it is allergy season after all" Jones
Bob Church
In article <8655375...@dejanews.com>,
lla...@bellatlantic.net wrote:
>
>Now you're showing off, right? So I can ask what or who is Ince without
>being banned from the elite?
>
Bwahahaha! Now, when Barbara answers, I'll find out too, only I didn't let
the whole world know that it went over my head and, uh, oh shoot.
Bob Church
Richard Brandt
Helge Moulding wrote:
> obvious, but I don't know who Ince was, and am waiting for Ms Name-
> dropper to explain herself.
Oh, fer Chrissake, enough already. Thomas Ince just had a movie added to
the National Film Registry this year.
Richard "youse have forced me to play my hand" Brandt
--
Rick Tyler
On Thu, 05 Jun 1997 16:03:46 -0600, Helge Moulding
<h...@slc.unisys.com> wrote:
:lla...@bellatlantic.net wrote:
:> bmik...@fas.harvard.edu (Barbara Mikkelson) wrote:
:> > Hey, I'm like Louella Parsons -- give me an Ince and I'll take a
:> > column.
:> > Barbara "the hearst of both worlds"
:> Now you're showing off, right? So I can ask what or who is Ince
:> without being banned from the elite?
:
:Yeah, she's showing off. Strangely enough I was just browsing through
:my ancient copy of _The People's Almanac_, when the pages fell open
:to an article about _Citizen Cane_, which told me what the connection
:was between Randolph Hearst and Louella Parsons.
I thought _Citizen Cane_ was about Louis Dole, the Hawaiian sugar and
pineapple baron. He was also famous for his efforts to initiate a
public relief program for Polynesian workers laid off when mechanized
sugar harvesters were introduced to the islands in 1922.
-- Rick "Etymology *and* history" Tyler
Anton Sherwood
Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> writes
: I'll wager you my paid-up net account to your John Tesh recond collection
: 9 out of 10 AFU subscribers never heard of Norma Desmond.
I may or may not have heard of Norma Desmond, but, my memory being
what it is, I couldn't prove it either way.
--
Anton Sherwood *\\* +1 415 267 0685 *\\* DASher at netcom point com
"How'd ya like to climb this high WITHOUT no mountain?" --Porky Pine 70.6.19
Susan Mudgett aka little gator
DaveHatunen (hat...@netcom.com) wrote:
: Or does "Nat" stand for "Natalie"?
I doubt it. If it did, Nat would be more knowledgeable about things
like perfect 34 cups and dresses around the ankles.
David A Shulman
I'm ready for my close up Mr. Devile (sp?).
Anton Sherwood (das...@netcom.com) wrote:
: Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> writes
--
DaveHatunen
In article <5nfs8o$s7j$1...@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu>,
Cruella's brother?
--
********** DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@netcom.com) **********
Sarra Wright
>Nat Turner <tur...@smarty.smart.net> writes
>: I'll wager you my paid-up net account to your John Tesh recond collection
>: 9 out of 10 AFU subscribers never heard of Norma Desmond.
>
Sunset Boulevard, that Norma Desmond?
Sarra "her I've heard of, but who's John Tesh?" Wright