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Tim McDaniel

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Nov 18, 2009, 2:55:51 PM11/18/09
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Heard one from a cow-orker today. An airport tested a variety of
music to repel birds -- the most effective repellant was Britney
Spears.

It's a good story, but I don't find anything at snopes or
straightdope.com. Some Googling for
airport music "repel birds"
doesn't seem to find anything more than a much-copied article saying
that "airport officials have tried everything from loud music and
propane cannons to paintball guns and spraying Kool-Aid to repel
birds."

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Tim McDaniel, tm...@panix.com

Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-origins@moderators.isc.or­g

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Nov 20, 2009, 10:24:17 AM11/20/09
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I'm visiting from rasfw. What do we do now?

This is to keep birds away from airport runway and flight path? I
don't know if a well trained bird of prey or two will do the trick -
you know, like royalty in the old days would have such an animal for
hunting. Sounds as dull as golf to me really, and for a similar
reason, you sling the thing up in the sky and then watch what happens
a long way away - only golf balls don't come back to you unless it's
going /very/ badly. And, yeah, you have one special glove, and a
little cover to go over the head when the game is over... Anyway,
famously or apocryphally, Queen Victoria asked the Duke of Wellington
how to deal with small birds that got into the "Crystal Palace" all-
glass exhibition hall, and he said, "Sparrowhawks, ma'am."

As for sound, if aeroplanes don't scare them away then bird alarm
calls ought to have the effect. So what current music sounds most
like a flock of seagulls in distress? For that matter, are we talking
about Britney Spears singing, or dancing as well, in the video? She
does a lot of leaping around, and jumping out of high windows
sometimes which birds probably consider as cheating. I think in "Oops
I Just Hit a Wren" she's flying around on a cable.

But before that I'd try a South American lass named Shaky Ra. Some of
her moves must scare off more than birds.

David DeLaney

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:24:09 PM11/20/09
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Robert Carnegie: <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
>On Nov 18, 7:55�pm, t...@panix.com (Tim McDaniel) wrote:
>> Heard one from a cow-orker today. �An airport tested a variety of
>> music to repel birds -- the most effective repellant was Britney
>> Spears.
>>
>> It's a good story, but I don't find anything at snopes or
>> straightdope.com. �Some Googling for
>> � � airport music "repel birds"
>> doesn't seem to find anything more than a much-copied article saying
>> that "airport officials have tried everything from loud music and
>> propane cannons to paintball guns and spraying Kool-Aid to repel
>> birds."
>
>I'm visiting from rasfw. What do we do now?

We optionally discuss it; try to find cites (or anti-cites); apply logic to
it and see if it curls up shrieking; and in general do Skeptical Science to
it. And/or maek joek, or divert into another thread unexpectedly, such as
highway numbering via airport-runway numbering.

Dave "or sometimes it just gets no followups and vanishes; this is the most
active AFU has been in quite some time" DeLaney
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Nick Spalding

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:35:12 AM11/21/09
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David DeLaney wrote, in <slrnhgeob...@gatekeeper.vic.com>
on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:24:09 -0500:

> Robert Carnegie: <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 18, 7:55�pm, t...@panix.com (Tim McDaniel) wrote:
> >> Heard one from a cow-orker today. �An airport tested a variety of
> >> music to repel birds -- the most effective repellant was Britney
> >> Spears.
> >>
> >> It's a good story, but I don't find anything at snopes or
> >> straightdope.com. �Some Googling for
> >> � � airport music "repel birds"
> >> doesn't seem to find anything more than a much-copied article saying
> >> that "airport officials have tried everything from loud music and
> >> propane cannons to paintball guns and spraying Kool-Aid to repel
> >> birds."
> >
> >I'm visiting from rasfw. What do we do now?
>
> We optionally discuss it; try to find cites (or anti-cites); apply logic to
> it and see if it curls up shrieking; and in general do Skeptical Science to
> it. And/or maek joek, or divert into another thread unexpectedly, such as
> highway numbering via airport-runway numbering.
>
> Dave "or sometimes it just gets no followups and vanishes; this is the most
> active AFU has been in quite some time" DeLaney

And we can always fall back on Zip code numbering or Area Code
numbering.
--
Nick Spalding

Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-origins@moderators.isc.or­g

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:41:09 PM11/21/09
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I wrote:
> only golf balls don't come back to
> you unless it's going /very/ badly.

- oh, and the feathers are on the /inside/.

(If you're using that kind, that is.)

Moe Trin

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Nov 21, 2009, 8:32:13 PM11/21/09
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.folklore.urban, in article
<aeb138d5-67d3-4663...@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-o...@moderators.isc.or�g wrote:

NOTE: Posting from groups.google.com (or some web-forums) dramatically
reduces the chance of your post being seen. Find a real news server.

>Tim McDaniel, tm...@panix.com wrote:

>> a much-copied article saying that "airport officials have tried
>> everything from loud music and propane cannons to paintball guns
>> and spraying Kool-Aid to repel birds."

>This is to keep birds away from airport runway and flight path? I


>don't know if a well trained bird of prey or two will do the trick -
>you know, like royalty in the old days would have such an animal for
>hunting.

It's been tried - mixed results. The birds and handlers are
relatively expensive. Also tried is opening the airport/airfield
to hunters to thin the bird population (animal rights groups
objected, and the aircraft operators were afraid the hunters might
mistake aircraft for birds and shoot at them).

>As for sound, if aeroplanes don't scare them away then bird alarm
>calls ought to have the effect.

Also tried - mixed results. The birds tend to get conditioned to the
sounds and ignore them, just as they ignore propane cannon and other
noise makers..

One technique that produced significant reductions in bird strikes
was to stop renting out the land on the airport/airfield to farmers
who are using it to grow various crops - that attract vermin - that
attracts avian predators. The airport authority looses the income from
the crops, but the aircraft operators don't have to spend as much in
repairs. Similar results were observed as a result of closing refuse
disposal sites in the immediate vicinity of the airport. Another
technique (first used at Ascension Island during WW2) was to install
netting a short distance (0.3 meters/1 foot) above the the ground so
as to prevent the birds from nesting on the airfield. Obviously the
best technique at one facility may be useless at another.

Old guy

Ray

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:26:18 PM11/22/09
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ibup...@painkiller.example.tld (Moe Trin) wrote:

> One technique that produced significant reductions in bird strikes
> was to stop renting out the land on the airport/airfield to farmers
> who are using it to grow various crops - that attract vermin - that
> attracts avian predators.

I've read about some airports where they've changed the plants that
grow around the airport to species less attractive to birds.
Presumably that means avoiding grasses that make edible seeds and trees
that make edible fruits, but I don't remember the details.

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Ray
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Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:49:42 PM11/22/09
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And/or bird numbering: how many fewer birds _are_ there using Brittany
Spears music, compared, say, to Johnny Cash.

charles

David DeLaney

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:15:17 AM11/23/09
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Charles Wm. Dimmick <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>Nick Spalding wrote:
>> David DeLaney wrote

And presto: a circular word-runway! (Or 'ring of fire'.)

Dave

Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-origins@moderators.isc.or­g

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:24:13 AM11/23/09
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To remind yourself how to spell Britney Spears' name (if life isn't
too short), remember that it's an anagram of "Presbyterians".

Of course then you have to remember how to spell "Presbyterians".

R H Draney

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:53:53 PM11/23/09
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>
>To remind yourself how to spell Britney Spears' name (if life isn't
>too short), remember that it's an anagram of "Presbyterians".
>
>Of course then you have to remember how to spell "Presbyterians".

It's also an anagram for:

Spin betrayers
Banister's prey
Stripes nearby
Inert passerby
Binary presets
Pry it, bareness
Spry in rebates
Try bean spires
Barren piss yet
Absent prey, sir
Arrest by penis
Yep, insert bras

....r


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Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-origins@moderators.isc.or­g

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:08:47 AM11/24/09
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But then I'm assuming you want to spell it the same way that she
does. Maybe you don't.

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:44:10 PM11/24/09
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Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-o...@moderators.isc.or�g wrote:
> But then I'm assuming you want to spell it the same way that she
> does. Maybe you don't.

It is a man of poor imagination who can think of only one way to spell a
name.

Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-origins@moderators.isc.or­g

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:10:30 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 2:44 am, "Charles Wm. Dimmick" <cdimm...@snet.net> wrote:

> Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-orig...@moderators.isc.or­g wrote:
>
> > But then I'm assuming you want to spell it the same way that she
> > does.  Maybe you don't.
>
> It is a man of poor imagination who can think of only one way to spell a
> name.

I wonder what to make of the fact that people find new ways to spell
mine that never crossed my mind. And of course it is or was kind of a
famous (infamous) one.

Hatunen

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:14:02 PM11/25/09
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Isn't that a quote from William Shakspere?

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Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:07:20 PM11/25/09
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Hatunen wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:44:10 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
> <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>
>> Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-o...@moderators.isc.or�g wrote:
>>> But then I'm assuming you want to spell it the same way that she
>>> does. Maybe you don't.
>> It is a man of poor imagination who can think of only one way to spell a
>> name.
>
> Isn't that a quote from William Shakspere?
>
Close. It was Andrew Jackson.

Hatunen

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:17:26 PM11/25/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:07:20 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
<cdim...@snet.net> wrote:

Uh... Woosh?

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:52:24 PM11/25/09
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Hatunen wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:07:20 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
> <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>
>> Hatunen wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:44:10 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
>>> <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-o...@moderators.isc.or�g wrote:
>>>>> But then I'm assuming you want to spell it the same way that she
>>>>> does. Maybe you don't.
>>>> It is a man of poor imagination who can think of only one way to spell a
>>>> name.
>>> Isn't that a quote from William Shakspere?
>>>
>> Close. It was Andrew Jackson.
>
> Uh... Woosh?
>
http://www.quotegarden.com/grammar.html

It's a damn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word.
~Andrew Jackson

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way. ~Mark
Twain

Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-origins@moderators.isc.or­g

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Nov 26, 2009, 6:55:34 AM11/26/09
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On Nov 25, 9:17 pm, Hatunen <hatu...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:07:20 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
>
> <cdimm...@snet.net> wrote:
> >Hatunen wrote:
> >> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:44:10 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
> >> <cdimm...@snet.net> wrote:

>
> >>> Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-orig...@moderators.isc.or­g wrote:
> >>>> But then I'm assuming you want to spell it the same way that she
> >>>> does.  Maybe you don't.
> >>> It is a man of poor imagination who can think of only one way to spell a
> >>> name.
>
> >> Isn't that a quote from William Shakspere?
>
> >Close. It was Andrew Jackson.
>
> Uh... Woosh?

<http://shakespeareauthorship.com/name1.html> is from a site
"Dedicated to the Proposition that Shakespeare Wrote Shakespeare". I
leave it to you to guess the addresses of competing web sites with
alternative ideas (e.g. Queen Elizabeth herself or the Earl of Oxford,
who I suppose is the "Oxfordian" candidate). Anyway, Will seems to
have had about as much trouble with the name as one "Mr. Cartnagie"
has had, except of course that I haven't had a large and estimable
body of work attributed to somebody else after my death. Yet.

Stephen Hawking gets it too, I don't know whether J. K. Rowling does...

Hatunen

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:56:29 PM11/27/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:52:24 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
<cdim...@snet.net> wrote:

Um. Note my spelling of "Shakespeare", who is know to have
spelled his own name in several different ways.

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Nov 27, 2009, 5:02:19 PM11/27/09
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Hatunen wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:52:24 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
> <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>
>> Hatunen wrote:
>>>>> Isn't that a quote from William Shakspere?
>>>>>
>>>> Close. It was Andrew Jackson.
>>> Uh... Woosh?
>>>
>> http://www.quotegarden.com/grammar.html
>>
>> It's a damn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word.
>> ~Andrew Jackson
>>
>> I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way. ~Mark
>> Twain
>
> Um. Note my spelling of "Shakespeare", who is know to have
> spelled his own name in several different ways.
>
Oh, I did, I did. But I also remember [and will probably never forget]
that portion of your sig line which reads:

"My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps"

Charles

Hatunen

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Nov 27, 2009, 5:06:30 PM11/27/09
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:02:19 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
<cdim...@snet.net> wrote:

Curses. Hung by my one petard.

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Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Hatunen wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:02:19 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
> <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>
>> Hatunen wrote:
>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:52:24 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
>>> <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hatunen wrote:
>>>>>>> Isn't that a quote from William Shakspere?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Close. It was Andrew Jackson.
>>>>> Uh... Woosh?
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.quotegarden.com/grammar.html
>>>>
>>>> It's a damn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word.
>>>> ~Andrew Jackson
>>>>
>>>> I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way. ~Mark
>>>> Twain
>>> Um. Note my spelling of "Shakespeare", who is know to have
>>> spelled his own name in several different ways.
>>>
>> Oh, I did, I did. But I also remember [and will probably never forget]
>> that portion of your sig line which reads:
>> "My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps"
>
> Curses. Hung by my one petard.
>
That must be painful.

Hatunen

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:08:04 PM11/28/09
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:45:43 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
<cdim...@snet.net> wrote:

Nah. I'm one of the Dead End kids.

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