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David Lesher
Jan 1, 2012, 8:02:25 PM1/1/12
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<http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/01/us/florida-celebratory-gunfire/index.html>
(CNN) -- A west Florida boy is in critical condition after a
bullet apparently fired skyward during a New Year's celebration
went into his head, authorities said Sunday.
The 12-year-old boy was sitting in the front yard of his Ruskin,
Florida, home watching fireworks around 1 a.m. Sunday when he
fell to the ground, bleeding from the nose and eyes, Larry
McKinnon of the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office said Sunday
in a statement.
The victim's mother drove him to South Bay Hospital in Sun City
Center, where doctors determined that a gunshot had gone through
the top of the boy's head. The child was then transported to
Tampa General Hospital, where he was in critical condition
Sunday afternoon with the bullet still lodged in his head,
McKinnon said.
...
If true, this would not be the first time that a child was
inadvertently shot in the Southeast on New Year's Eve and in the
hours after midnight. In 2009, 4-year-old Marquel Peters died
after a bullet went through the roof a suburban Atlanta church
and hit him.
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R H Draney
Jan 1, 2012, 9:22:05 PM1/1/12
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David Lesher filted:
midnight gunfire on New Year's Eve were down by some double-digit percentage
since the passage of "Jessica's Law"...I don't know how they're taking the
stats, but in my neighborhood the noise started about fifteen minutes early and
continued until after the changeover....r
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Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
>
>If true, this would not be the first time that a child was
>inadvertently shot in the Southeast on New Year's Eve and in the
>hours after midnight. In 2009, 4-year-old Marquel Peters died
>after a bullet went through the roof a suburban Atlanta church
>and hit him.
Leading up to the holiday, all the news stations were claiming that reports of
>If true, this would not be the first time that a child was
>inadvertently shot in the Southeast on New Year's Eve and in the
>hours after midnight. In 2009, 4-year-old Marquel Peters died
>after a bullet went through the roof a suburban Atlanta church
>and hit him.
midnight gunfire on New Year's Eve were down by some double-digit percentage
since the passage of "Jessica's Law"...I don't know how they're taking the
stats, but in my neighborhood the noise started about fifteen minutes early and
continued until after the changeover....r
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Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Don Del Grande
Jan 1, 2012, 9:31:56 PM1/1/12
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something that increases the sentences for child molesters.
As for the gunfire, and pardon me for asking this, but are you sure
all of that noise was gunfire? Firecrackers are rather popular
everywhere around midnight on New Year's Eve.
(Also keep in mind that "down by double digit percentage" is relative
- for example, it could be "down" from 80 shots to 72.)
-- Don
R H Draney
Jan 2, 2012, 4:04:24 AM1/2/12
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Don Del Grande filted:
>
>R H Draney wrote:
>>
>>Leading up to the holiday, all the news stations were claiming that =
>reports of
>>midnight gunfire on New Year's Eve were down by some double-digit =
>percentage
>>since the passage of "Jessica's Law"...I don't know how they're taking =
>the
>>stats, but in my neighborhood the noise started about fifteen minutes =
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon%27s_law_%28Arizona%29
>As for the gunfire, and pardon me for asking this, but are you sure
>all of that noise was gunfire? Firecrackers are rather popular
>everywhere around midnight on New Year's Eve.
>
>(Also keep in mind that "down by double digit percentage" is relative
>- for example, it could be "down" from 80 shots to 72.)
Or from 8000 to 7200, which would fit better with what I'm used to hearing....r
>
>R H Draney wrote:
>>
>>Leading up to the holiday, all the news stations were claiming that =
>reports of
>>midnight gunfire on New Year's Eve were down by some double-digit =
>percentage
>>since the passage of "Jessica's Law"...I don't know how they're taking =
>the
>>stats, but in my neighborhood the noise started about fifteen minutes =
>early and
>>continued until after the changeover.
>
>"Jessica's Law"? The only reference I can find to "Jessica's Law" is
>something that increases the sentences for child molesters.
Sorry, I knew it was some girl's name:
>>continued until after the changeover.
>
>"Jessica's Law"? The only reference I can find to "Jessica's Law" is
>something that increases the sentences for child molesters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon%27s_law_%28Arizona%29
>As for the gunfire, and pardon me for asking this, but are you sure
>all of that noise was gunfire? Firecrackers are rather popular
>everywhere around midnight on New Year's Eve.
>
>(Also keep in mind that "down by double digit percentage" is relative
>- for example, it could be "down" from 80 shots to 72.)
Charles Bishop
Jan 13, 2012, 8:52:59 PM1/13/12
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In article <jdqvn1$673$1...@reader1.panix.com>, David Lesher
went through a roof (and a ceiling?) have?
--
Charles
<wb8...@panix.com> wrote:
><http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/01/us/florida-celebratory-gunfire/index.html>
>
>(CNN) -- A west Florida boy is in critical condition after a
>bullet apparently fired skyward during a New Year's celebration
>went into his head, authorities said Sunday.
>
>The 12-year-old boy was sitting in the front yard of his Ruskin,
>Florida, home watching fireworks around 1 a.m. Sunday when he
>fell to the ground, bleeding from the nose and eyes, Larry
>McKinnon of the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office said Sunday
>in a statement.
>
>The victim's mother drove him to South Bay Hospital in Sun City
>Center, where doctors determined that a gunshot had gone through
>the top of the boy's head. The child was then transported to
>Tampa General Hospital, where he was in critical condition
>Sunday afternoon with the bullet still lodged in his head,
>McKinnon said.
>
>...
>
>If true, this would not be the first time that a child was
>inadvertently shot in the Southeast on New Year's Eve and in the
>hours after midnight. In 2009, 4-year-old Marquel Peters died
>after a bullet went through the roof a suburban Atlanta church
>and hit him.
Not sure of the physics, but how much of an impact could a bullet that
><http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/01/us/florida-celebratory-gunfire/index.html>
>
>(CNN) -- A west Florida boy is in critical condition after a
>bullet apparently fired skyward during a New Year's celebration
>went into his head, authorities said Sunday.
>
>The 12-year-old boy was sitting in the front yard of his Ruskin,
>Florida, home watching fireworks around 1 a.m. Sunday when he
>fell to the ground, bleeding from the nose and eyes, Larry
>McKinnon of the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office said Sunday
>in a statement.
>
>The victim's mother drove him to South Bay Hospital in Sun City
>Center, where doctors determined that a gunshot had gone through
>the top of the boy's head. The child was then transported to
>Tampa General Hospital, where he was in critical condition
>Sunday afternoon with the bullet still lodged in his head,
>McKinnon said.
>
>...
>
>If true, this would not be the first time that a child was
>inadvertently shot in the Southeast on New Year's Eve and in the
>hours after midnight. In 2009, 4-year-old Marquel Peters died
>after a bullet went through the roof a suburban Atlanta church
>and hit him.
went through a roof (and a ceiling?) have?
--
Charles
Duggy
Jan 13, 2012, 9:37:49 PM1/13/12
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On Jan 14, 11:52 am, ctbis...@earthlink.net (Charles Bishop) wrote:
> In article <jdqvn1$67...@reader1.panix.com>, David Lesher
Ceiling would have little stopping power. What is the roof made of?
Wait... do churches have ceilings?
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> In article <jdqvn1$67...@reader1.panix.com>, David Lesher
Wait... do churches have ceilings?
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= DUG.
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Charles Wm. Dimmick
Jan 13, 2012, 10:11:30 PM1/13/12
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went through the Donahue's roof, then the attic floor, then bounced off
the livingroom floor into the dining room, where it hit the dining room
ceiling, then the wall, and then rolled under the table. It was about
the size of a softball and was from a parent body which hit the upper
atmosphere at an estimated 25,000 mph and then split into many smaller
fragments. The edges of the attic floor were slightly charred by the
passage [I still have a small piece of that floor], but the living room
floor was only slightly dented, and only a small mark on the dining room
ceiling.
Charles
Charles Wm. Dimmick
Jan 13, 2012, 10:13:28 PM1/13/12
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nave, so a bullet would have to go through 3/8 inch of shingle, 1 inch
of board, then the insulation over the floor of the attic, then through
one inch of attic floor, before entering the sanctuary.
charles
David DeLaney
Jan 14, 2012, 12:10:17 AM1/14/12
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>> ctbis...@earthlink.net (Charles Bishop) wrote:
>>> Not sure of the physics, but how much of an impact could a bullet that
>>> went through a roof (and a ceiling?) have?
>>
>> Ceiling would have little stopping power. What is the roof made of?
>>
>> Wait... do churches have ceilings?
>
>Depends on the church. With our own church there is an attic over the
>nave, so a bullet would have to go through 3/8 inch of shingle, 1 inch
>of board, then the insulation over the floor of the attic, then through
>one inch of attic floor, before entering the sanctuary.
And Charles has probably repaired all of those personally, so he knows his
>>> Not sure of the physics, but how much of an impact could a bullet that
>>> went through a roof (and a ceiling?) have?
>>
>> Ceiling would have little stopping power. What is the roof made of?
>>
>> Wait... do churches have ceilings?
>
>Depends on the church. With our own church there is an attic over the
>nave, so a bullet would have to go through 3/8 inch of shingle, 1 inch
>of board, then the insulation over the floor of the attic, then through
>one inch of attic floor, before entering the sanctuary.
stuff.
Dave "outdoor services still have to calculate the tree cover, plus any
passing birds" DeLaney
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R H Draney
Jan 14, 2012, 1:06:59 AM1/14/12
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David DeLaney filted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmHy0BXySOQ
>
>Charles Wm. Dimmick <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>>On 1/13/2012 9:37 PM, Duggy wrote:
>>>
>>> Wait... do churches have ceilings?
>>
>>Depends on the church. With our own church there is an attic over the
>>nave, so a bullet would have to go through 3/8 inch of shingle, 1 inch
>>of board, then the insulation over the floor of the attic, then through
>>one inch of attic floor, before entering the sanctuary.
>
>And Charles has probably repaired all of those personally, so he knows his
>stuff.
>
>Dave "outdoor services still have to calculate the tree cover, plus any
> passing birds" DeLaney
Why am I suddenly picturing the opening to this cartoon show?...
>Charles Wm. Dimmick <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>>On 1/13/2012 9:37 PM, Duggy wrote:
>>>
>>> Wait... do churches have ceilings?
>>
>>Depends on the church. With our own church there is an attic over the
>>nave, so a bullet would have to go through 3/8 inch of shingle, 1 inch
>>of board, then the insulation over the floor of the attic, then through
>>one inch of attic floor, before entering the sanctuary.
>
>And Charles has probably repaired all of those personally, so he knows his
>stuff.
>
>Dave "outdoor services still have to calculate the tree cover, plus any
> passing birds" DeLaney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmHy0BXySOQ
Duggy
Jan 14, 2012, 8:02:33 PM1/14/12
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Charles Wm. Dimmick
Jan 15, 2012, 6:58:03 PM1/15/12
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http://webapps.cogopmedia.com/directory/item.php?id=282&dir=
Click on the map, then click on satellite view, and then zoom in. The
actual church sanctuary is the gray-roofed building on the right. The
white-roofed building is some sort of recreation hall, similar to what
we Anglicans would call a Parish Hall. I can't seem to find a street-view.
Charles
Duggy
Jan 15, 2012, 8:53:13 PM1/15/12
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Does it have a ceiling?
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Charles Wm. Dimmick
Jan 16, 2012, 5:46:53 PM1/16/12
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in to finance it I will go down and take a look. I figure about 1250
miles, so two days down and two days back, about 100 gallons of gas
round trip, 3 nights in a motel, 12 meals, should come to about....
Charles
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Duggy
Jan 16, 2012, 10:33:19 PM1/16/12
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David Lesher
Feb 13, 2012, 4:51:18 PM2/13/12
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<http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/ruskin-boy-hit-by-falling-bullet-on-new-years-eve-recovers-at-home/1214887>
RUSKIN A month after a bullet tore through his brain,
12-year-old Diego Duran is at home, eating chicken wings,
learning about wetlands and waiting for the day he can pick up
his skateboard.
He can talk. He can walk. He can play his guitar.
And his memory is just fine. He even remembers the moment the
.45-caliber full metal jacket bullet rained down on.....
RUSKIN A month after a bullet tore through his brain,
12-year-old Diego Duran is at home, eating chicken wings,
learning about wetlands and waiting for the day he can pick up
his skateboard.
He can talk. He can walk. He can play his guitar.
And his memory is just fine. He even remembers the moment the
.45-caliber full metal jacket bullet rained down on.....
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