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Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-origins@moderators.isc.or­g

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:35:48 AM11/20/09
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On Nov 20, 12:52 am, Hatunen <hatu...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:43:50 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie: Fnord:
> >There are about a quarter of a million more articles to pick through,
> >including crazy people walking around, nude people, people accompanied
> >by exotic animals, people walking into military grounds or into
> >someone else's real estate, and some apparent completely genuine
> >grievances.
>
> None of the ones you have cited so far involve a law making
> simply walking illegal. Do any of those other quarter of a
> million?

Not a law as such, that I found - in Britain it's illegal to take a
walk on a "motorway" (autobahn/freeway), but that's a special category
of road. But more cases, including in the U.S., where merely being
found walking was apparently considered grounds for arrest, and
presumably the same person being found fixing their car by the
roadside or maybe walking to get gasoline for the car would not have
been investigated. So if you define law loosely as "what you can do
without getting arrested for doing it", walking is, in some
localities, outside the law. Apparently.

And certainly that on one side of any highway without a sidewalk it is
illegal to walk along the road in one of the two available
directions. That must be frustrating if you go six feet then realise
you forgot something.

Hatunen

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Nov 20, 2009, 9:32:36 PM11/20/09
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:35:48 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie: Fnord:
cc talk-o...@moderators.isc.or�g <rja.ca...@excite.com>
wrote:

>On Nov 20, 12:52�am, Hatunen <hatu...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:43:50 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie: Fnord:
>> >There are about a quarter of a million more articles to pick through,
>> >including crazy people walking around, nude people, people accompanied
>> >by exotic animals, people walking into military grounds or into
>> >someone else's real estate, and some apparent completely genuine
>> >grievances.
>>
>> None of the ones you have cited so far involve a law making
>> simply walking illegal. Do any of those other quarter of a
>> million?
>
>Not a law as such, that I found - in Britain it's illegal to take a
>walk on a "motorway" (autobahn/freeway), but that's a special category
>of road. But more cases, including in the U.S., where merely being
>found walking was apparently considered grounds for arrest, and
>presumably the same person being found fixing their car by the
>roadside or maybe walking to get gasoline for the car would not have
>been investigated. So if you define law loosely as "what you can do
>without getting arrested for doing it", walking is, in some
>localities, outside the law. Apparently.

There was a time before the Supreme court nixed it that vagrants
were picked up for vagrancy for simply walking in a touchy
neighborhood, but it wasn't an arrest for walking.

>And certainly that on one side of any highway without a sidewalk it is
>illegal to walk along the road in one of the two available
>directions. That must be frustrating if you go six feet then realise
>you forgot something.

I doubt if such laws are diligently enforced, but your heirs
would be unable to file a good lawsuit if you were walking the
wrong way.

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Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-origins@moderators.isc.or­g

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:50:46 PM11/21/09
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Hatunen wrote:
> There was a time before the Supreme court nixed it that vagrants
> were picked up for vagrancy for simply walking in a touchy
> neighborhood, but it wasn't an arrest for walking.

I know I'm being picky, but what was it for?

If you're stationary or riding in a car or on a bicycle and you don't
have a problem from the law, but the guy who's on foot does, -

But maybe not all of that applies. For instance, I suppose a vagrant
is still a vagrant when they stop to rest.

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:07:48 PM11/22/09
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Hatunen wrote:

> There was a time before the Supreme court nixed it that vagrants
> were picked up for vagrancy for simply walking in a touchy
> neighborhood, but it wasn't an arrest for walking.

I found it amusing that there is a variety of marine bottom life which
is referred to as vagrant benthos because it wanders around the bottom
with no visible means of support [as opposed to sessile benthos].

Charles

Hatunen

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:24:04 PM11/22/09
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:50:46 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie: Fnord:

cc talk-o...@moderators.isc.or�g <rja.ca...@excite.com>
wrote:

>Hatunen wrote:


>> There was a time before the Supreme court nixed it that vagrants
>> were picked up for vagrancy for simply walking in a touchy
>> neighborhood, but it wasn't an arrest for walking.
>
>I know I'm being picky, but what was it for?

Duh. For vagrancy.


>
>If you're stationary or riding in a car or on a bicycle and you don't
>have a problem from the law, but the guy who's on foot does, -
>
>But maybe not all of that applies. For instance, I suppose a vagrant
>is still a vagrant when they stop to rest.

Yep.

Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-origins@moderators.isc.or­g

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:59:52 PM11/22/09
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Hatunen wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:50:46 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie: Fnord:
> cc talk-o...@moderators.isc.or�g <rja.ca...@excite.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hatunen wrote:
> >> There was a time before the Supreme court nixed it that vagrants
> >> were picked up for vagrancy for simply walking in a touchy
> >> neighborhood, but it wasn't an arrest for walking.
> >
> >I know I'm being picky, but what was it for?
>
> Duh. For vagrancy.
> >
> >If you're stationary or riding in a car or on a bicycle and you don't
> >have a problem from the law, but the guy who's on foot does, -
> >
> >But maybe not all of that applies. For instance, I suppose a vagrant
> >is still a vagrant when they stop to rest.
>
> Yep.

To firm this up a little, dictionary.reference.com defines "vagrant"
as "an idle person without visible means of support" in law, plus
several variations on wandering around.

Hmm. I thought there would be something about villeins.

David DeLaney

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:17:06 AM11/23/09
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Robert Carnegie: <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
>Hatunen wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:50:46 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie: Fnord:
>> >But maybe not all of that applies. For instance, I suppose a vagrant
>> >is still a vagrant when they stop to rest.
>>
>> Yep.
>
>To firm this up a little, dictionary.reference.com defines "vagrant"
>as "an idle person without visible means of support" in law, plus
>several variations on wandering around.

So the Flying Nun qualifies? ... oh, "i_dle_", never mind.

>Hmm. I thought there would be something about villeins.

Dave "curses! trefoiled again!" DeLaney
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