Cat food marketed as Tuna Fish
gr...@befvax.uchicago.edu
Channel 2, 10 O'clock News, (Chicago, CBS) last night and other news
organization has reported that a Canadian company that makes cat food went
out of business. They sold their product, which is made out of decomposing
fish by-products in cans as Tuna fish. The name of the product was supposed
to be Seventh Heaven Cat Food.
Four companies in the US, put their Tuna labels on the cans which they
bought from this company, not knowing that it was cat food.
These cans made their way to stores.
The FDA, US Marshalls, and other officials have notified the public
concering the names of the companies, and how to determine (based on
the lot number stamped on the bottom of the can) whether the can
contains cat food. People with these cans are supposed to return them
to the store where they were purchased. There are over 30000 such cans
of cat food labeled as Tuna.
There were four companies, and the two I remember are Blue Ocean and IGA.
Leon Gross
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
Christopher Neufeld
>A new urban legand! And true!
>
>Channel 2, 10 O'clock News, (Chicago, CBS) last night and other news
>organization has reported that a Canadian company that makes cat food went
>out of business. They sold their product, which is made out of decomposing
>fish by-products in cans as Tuna fish. The name of the product was supposed
>to be Seventh Heaven Cat Food.
>
>Four companies in the US, put their Tuna labels on the cans which they
>bought from this company, not knowing that it was cat food.
>
>These cans made their way to stores.
>
the famous tuna-gate of Canada in 1987 (or was if 1985?). It was a long
time ago. Star Kist of Canada had some multiton batch of fish turned down
by the federal inspectors because it was ruled to be decomposing. Then
fisheries minister John Fraser overruled the inspectors and declared the
fish safe. The story was broken by CBC's television show "The Fifth
Estate". In the ensuing chaos Fraser lost his position and Star Kist of
Canada went out of business. The food was sold to an American company on
the condition that it not be used for human consumption, and that it not
find its way back into Canada. It has been turned back at the border a
couple of times when somebody tried to ship it here.
The tuna was repackaged as cat food, and somebody deliberately and
with malice aforethought relabelled it with the packaging of several
american brands. This was done some time after it got shipped down to the
States, and is currently being investigated.
So, the food did not come from a former pet food company.
The cans really are just bad batches of Star Kist tuna repackaged as
cat food, and subsequently re-repackaged by person or persons unknown.
>Leon Gross
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gr...@befvax.uchicago.edu
Sorry, but I heard this last night on the Channnel 2 News.
Arsinio made a joke about this last night, live.
And I got email in regards to my post, saying that someone had seen
it in the Boston Globe the day before.
The story was that the cans are in the stores NOW, and that the FDA
and other agents are trying to track them down NOW.
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Kim Dyer
>>>organization has reported that a Canadian company that makes cat food went
>>>out of business. They sold their product, which is made out of decomposing
>>>fish by-products in cans as Tuna fish. The name of the product was supposed
>>>to be Seventh Heaven Cat Food.
>>>Four companies in the US, put their Tuna labels on the cans which they
>>>bought from this company, not knowing that it was cat food.
>>>These cans made their way to stores.
>> This sounds like a somewhat garbled version of what really happened,
>>the famous tuna-gate of Canada in 1987 (or was if 1985?). It was a long
>>time ago. Star Kist of Canada had some multiton batch of fish turned down
>>by the federal inspectors because it was ruled to be decomposing. Then
>>fisheries minister John Fraser overruled the inspectors and declared the
>>fish safe. The story was broken by CBC's television show "The Fifth
>>Estate". In the ensuing chaos Fraser lost his position and Star Kist of
>>Canada went out of business. The food was sold to an American company on
>>the condition that it not be used for human consumption, and that it not
>>find its way back into Canada. It has been turned back at the border a
>>couple of times when somebody tried to ship it here.
>> The tuna was repackaged as cat food, and somebody deliberately and
>>with malice aforethought relabelled it with the packaging of several
>>american brands. This was done some time after it got shipped down to the
>>States, and is currently being investigated.
>Sorry, but I heard this last night on the Channnel 2 News.
>Arsinio made a joke about this last night, live.
>And I got email in regards to my post, saying that someone had seen
>it in the Boston Globe the day before.
>The story was that the cans are in the stores NOW, and that the FDA
>and other agents are trying to track them down NOW.
The way *I* heard the current news story is that this is INDEED the
same spoiled tuna fish ... having been moving through the system for
YEARS. NPR this morning said it was the same bad fish that
caused the hassles in Canada several years ago.
Christopher Neufeld
>In article <1992Mar25.1...@midway.uchicago.edu> gr...@befvax.uchicago.edu writes:
>>A new urban legand! And true!
>>
>>Channel 2, 10 O'clock News, (Chicago, CBS) last night and other news
>>organization has reported that a Canadian company that makes cat food went
>>out of business. They sold their product, which is made out of decomposing
>>fish by-products in cans as Tuna fish. The name of the product was supposed
>>to be Seventh Heaven Cat Food.
>>
>>Four companies in the US, put their Tuna labels on the cans which they
>>bought from this company, not knowing that it was cat food.
>>
>>These cans made their way to stores.
>>
> This sounds like a somewhat garbled version of what really happened,
>the famous tuna-gate of Canada in 1987 (or was if 1985?). It was a long
>time ago.
>
original posting was very unclear.
OK, the facts, now. Tuna-gate took place here in Canada in 1985, when
twenty million cans were recalled, leading to the firing of John Fraser
and the closing of Star-Kist Canada Ltd.
Now, seven years later, the tuna still exists, and has turned up,
repackaged, on store shelves this week.
I hope that's a bit clearer now.
Richard Joltes
>
>Sorry, but I heard this last night on the Channnel 2 News.
>Arsinio made a joke about this last night, live.
>And I got email in regards to my post, saying that someone had seen
>it in the Boston Globe the day before.
>
>The story was that the cans are in the stores NOW, and that the FDA
>and other agents are trying to track them down NOW.
I was the one who sent you mail. I posted the Boston _Globe_ story the day
before your version went out...maybe Pnews at it. Here's the text:
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From the Boston _Globe_ today: (3/24/92)
"US Seizes cat food cans relabeled as tuna"
NEWARK - Imagine opening a can of tuna and finding yourself in seventh heaven,
"7th Heaven" brand cat food, that is.
Federal agents yesterday seized 38,640 cans of cat food - "decomposed fish
product," officials said - that were relabeled as tuna for human consumption.
Some of the cans were sold.
The FDA said all canned foods are sterilized during processing so it is not
dangerous.
Officials said the relabeled tuna can be identified by the two-line product
code on the can. If the fourth character on the first line is a "v" and the
second character on the second line is a "t," it is from the recalled batch.
The FDA said people with such cans should destroy them.
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Well, it's "after the FAQ" (boo, hiss) but it looks like we can change the
status of this one to "T." Damn unfortunate, that...
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Phil Gustafson
"trout fish" or "shark fish" or "clam mollusk". There is no "tuna
mollusk" or "tuna dalmatio^Han".
Phil "Hate those redundancies" Gustafson
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Rick Kelly
>Why do people call tuna "tuna fish"? We don't say "sole fish" or
>"trout fish" or "shark fish" or "clam mollusk". There is no "tuna
>mollusk" or "tuna dalmatio^Han".
Well, there's also dogfish, and catfish.
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Warren Burstein
>Why do people call tuna "tuna fish"? We don't say "sole fish" ...
To distinguish from the dolphin, which isn't a fish.
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>In article <1992Mar28....@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> ph...@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>>Why do people call tuna "tuna fish"? We don't say "sole fish" or
>>"trout fish" or "shark fish" or "clam mollusk". There is no "tuna
>>mollusk" or "tuna dalmatio^Han".
>
>Well, there's also dogfish, and catfish.
Well, there's also buffalo, sheephead, and redhorse, drum, alligator gar,
and crappie.
These are all fish.
Really.
Gordy "I bet there is more than one sucker born every minute" Powell
Dan Houlihan x4431 5-2
>>Why do people call tuna "tuna fish"? We don't say "sole fish" or
>>"trout fish" or "shark fish" or "clam mollusk". There is no "tuna
>>mollusk" or "tuna dalmatio^Han".
>
>Well, there's also dogfish, and catfish.
>
gr...@befvax.uchicago.edu
And we put the word fish in there to distinguish dogs from dogfish and cats
from catfish.
But there is no distinction between tuna and tuna fish.
[Unless it's cat food :-) ]
>And don't forget tuna piano.
And don't forget Peano arithmetic.
la...@abby.chem.ucla.edu
(many examples of words with fish in them left out)
The one difference I can think of with tuna/tuna fish and
other types of fish is that no one ever shreds up bass or catfish,
mixes it with Miracle Whip, and declares it a lunch option.
Tuna served in the manner fish is typically served (broiled, baked,
fried, etc) is typically called tuna in my experience while
tuna fish is reserved only for that shredded stuff you buy
as Star-Kist.
Yes, I do receive a sponsor bonus for mentioning brand names. I
am certain that the check is in the mail.
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Criminal Genius Extraordinaire
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Phil Gustafson
>Why do people call tuna "tuna fish"? We don't say "sole fish" ...?
And war...@itexjct.jct.ac.il answered:
>To distinguish from the dolphin, which isn't a fish.
[Pedant alert.] Not quite. There is a "dolphin mammal" and a "dolphin
fish". The former is also called a porpoise; the latter a mahi-mahi.
Mahi-mahi tastes wonderful. Melville, or actually his creation Ishmael,
says that porpoise is yummy too, but I'm too much of a bunny-hugger to
consider trying them. [*]
Restaurants and fish stores always call dolphin fish mahi-mahi, just
so they don't have to say "dolphin (NOT FLIPPER)".
[*] Well, actually, I've never turned a new food down. Given an
already-dead porpoise, I'd bite.
Phil
IC...@asuacad.bitnet
Gustafson) says:
>
>[*] Well, actually, I've never turned a new food down. Given an
>already-dead porpoise, I'd bite.
>
very appetizing, though.
Loyd Means
Phoenix AZ
BRYAN MILLIGAN
>Why do people call tuna "tuna fish"? We don't say "sole fish" or
>"trout fish" or "shark fish" or "clam mollusk". There is no "tuna
>mollusk" or "tuna dalmatio^Han".
>
>Phil "Hate those redundancies" Gustafson
Around here chicken fried steak is a very popular menu item in
public eateries. Lately (last year or so) I've been seeing 'chicken fried
chicken' offered on menus. So far I'm the only one who thinks this is
funny.
bryan "I'll have the chicken fried steak fried chicken"
KBM...@ZEUS.TAMU.EDU (VAX 9000)
br...@aero15.tamu.edu (Sun 4/65)
BRYAN MILLIGAN
>In article <1992Mar28....@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> ph...@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>>Why do people call tuna "tuna fish"? We don't say "sole fish" or
>>"trout fish" or "shark fish" or "clam mollusk". There is no "tuna
>>mollusk" or "tuna dalmatio^Han".
>
>Well, there's also dogfish, and catfish.
And cowfish and porcupine fish and batfish and goatfish and many others;
however, these are all part of the name. The fish in question is called a
tuna; when it hits the can it becomes tuna fish (Master of the Universe!
Savioir of All Things Wet and Cold! Faster than a speeding pullet (chicken
fried of course)).
bryan
Chuck Adams
fish".........What is albacore? Is it a type of tuna? Or a type of tuna
fish?
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Cindy Kandolf
>Mahi-mahi tastes wonderful. Melville, or actually his creation Ishmael,
>says that porpoise is yummy too, but I'm too much of a bunny-hugger to
>consider trying them. [*]
>
>Restaurants and fish stores always call dolphin fish mahi-mahi, just
>so they don't have to say "dolphin (NOT FLIPPER)".
>
>[*] Well, actually, I've never turned a new food down. Given an
>already-dead porpoise, I'd bite.
I wonder about this. I happen to love reindeer, which is reasonably common
over/up here. However, lots of other furriners - not to mention people i
write letters to back on the other side of the mill pond - react to the
idea of eating reindeer because they are, and i quote, "so cute". When
i mention liking a good reindeer stew, i often get the response of "You're
eating RUDOLPH!!!" from people who are far too old for these sorts of
antics.
We've recently been through the whole bit about eating dogs and cats,
so i really don't want to start that up again. I'm just basically
wondering out into the ether (well, sorta).... where do we draw the line
between what's edible and what's "cute", ergo taboo?
The first guy to try frog's legs, on the other hand, must have been pretty
hungry.
-Cindy "Rudolph eater" Kandolf
ci...@solan.unit.no
Trondheim, Norway
t...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu
> i mention liking a good reindeer stew, i often get the response of "You're
> eating RUDOLPH!!!" from people who are far too old for these sorts of
> antics.
Shoot! I'd rather eat RUDOLPH than MICKEY MOUSE any day.
Terry "I'll tell you that for nothing" Wood
Steve Shaw (Flipper)
>
>We've recently been through the whole bit about eating dogs and cats,
>so i really don't want to start that up again. I'm just basically
>wondering out into the ether (well, sorta).... where do we draw the line
>between what's edible and what's "cute", ergo taboo?
>
I personally find cows to be among the cutest animals ever to evolve.
Something about the way they just graze in the fields make them appear
so wise. Anyway, several hometown friends and I have formed an
unofficial "Cow Appreciation Society", taking field trips to different
farms and visiting the cows and the whole bit. Our collections of
"Cow Art" (about cows, not by them...) are getting quite extensive,
even if you exclude Larson's extensive work.
To get to the point, about the only thing I like better than a moo cow
is a steak. Or a hamburger. Anything with cow in it.
-Steve "cute and tasty too" Shaw
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Phil Gustafson surprises only the moribund with his admission:
> Well, actually, I've never turned a new food [or drink. Ed] down.
I have heard [tm] of an intrepid explorer who made a point of
trying every possible source of protein.
He said that the worst thing he ever tasted was a common housefly.
Phil -- do NOT try this at home. Wait for AFU ]Ii{...
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>
> Phil Gustafson informs us:
>>Mahi-mahi tastes wonderful. Melville, or actually his creation Ishmael,
>>says that porpoise is yummy too, but I'm too much of a bunny-hugger to
>>consider trying them. [*]
>>
>>Restaurants and fish stores always call dolphin fish mahi-mahi, just
>>so they don't have to say "dolphin (NOT FLIPPER)".
>>
>>[*] Well, actually, I've never turned a new food down. Given an
>>already-dead porpoise, I'd bite.
>
>
> The first guy to try frog's legs, on the other hand, must have been pretty
> hungry.
>
"The bravest man the world ever saw, was the first to eat an oyster, raw"
original speaker unknown, first hear by me in the Baden Soellingen
Officers Mess, some time in 1971
queasily, Pat
S. Mudgett aka little gator
> > i mention liking a good reindeer stew, i often get the response of "You're
> > eating RUDOLPH!!!" from people who are far too old for these sorts of
> > antics.
the author's family always had venison stew on christmas eve, and always
put a marischino cherry in the pot to represent rudolph's nose.
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Phil Gustafson
>
>I happen to love [to eat] reindeer, which is reasonably common
>over/up here. However, lots of other furriners - not to mention people i
>write letters to back on the other side of the mill pond - react to the
>idea of eating reindeer because they are, and i quote, "so cute". When
>i mention liking a good reindeer stew, i often get the response of "You're
>eating RUDOLPH!!!" from people who are far too old for these sorts of
>antics.
>
>We've recently been through the whole bit about eating dogs and cats,
>so i really don't want to start that up again. I'm just basically
>wondering out into the ether (well, sorta).... where do we draw the line
>between what's edible and what's "cute", ergo taboo?
To start with, all mammals, birds, and reptiles, and most insects, are edible.
But you're talking about ethical edibility or cultural edibility: most
Northern Europeans just don't eat bugs, practicers of several faiths
revile the yummy pig, and it won't do to shoot and eat whooping cranes or
Californa condors or whales.
My sister-in-law, for example, won't eat lamb, because she thinks they have nice
eyes. I suspect if she saw the daggy end more often, she's change her mind.
I have read considerably of these matters, and will try to overcome my laziness
Real Soon Now and post a bibliography.
But I certainly wouldn't hesitate to chow down on a reindeer. Hey, if you
_stop_ eating reindeer, some poor Lapp doesn't get new shoes.
Phil "My late grandmother would have conniptions if she knew I were writing to
a Norwegian" Gustafson
talking
Phil Gustafson
from the table, butts in:
>
>I have heard [tm] of an intrepid explorer who made a point of
>trying every possible source of protein.
>He said that the worst thing he ever tasted was a common housefly.
This sounds like something Amundsen would have done, but I haven't
heard of it before. A reference would be appreciated.
The stories of Amundsen's, Nansen's, and Sverdrup's polar expeditions
sound pretty gory to folks who buy their flesh at Cosentino's. Essentially,
when they were confronted with new and exotic forms of wildlife, they shot
them and ate them. Amundsen laid down sixty tons of seal during his South
Pole jaunt. Nansen and his companion Johanssen (Those Norse sure have
boring names) survived an arctic winter on only polar bear and walrus:
Nansen gained 10 kilos, and the main complaint was the inabilty to wash
for a year.
The contemporary British explorers eschewed seal (or overcooked it to
clobber the vitamin C), ate proper canned goods, and died of starvation
and scurvy.
Anyhow, tasting a housefly is exactly what I would expect from old
Roald. It doesn't sound more or less disgusting than the half-digested
stuff from reindeer stomachs that the Inuit find a delicacy.
Phil "Hope I perked up your appetites" Gustafson
Sandra Loosemore
The stories of Amundsen's, Nansen's, and Sverdrup's polar expeditions
sound pretty gory to folks who buy their flesh at Cosentino's. Essentially,
when they were confronted with new and exotic forms of wildlife, they shot
them and ate them. [...]
The contemporary British explorers eschewed seal (or overcooked it to
clobber the vitamin C), ate proper canned goods, and died of starvation
and scurvy.
Oh, but you omitted the part that *really* grossed out the British.
Amundsen started out for the South Pole with something like 60 sled
dogs, but returned with only 12. The rest were killed for food along
the way! Amunden's journal contains some passages about how it was
fitting that these noble beasts that had served the expedition so well
could continue to serve it even in death.
Scott, in particular, was ridiculously sentimental about dogs,
thinking that it was inhumane even to use them to pull sleds.
Strangely enough, earlier British explorers (Dampier and Cook, for
example) were considerably more open-minded about eating dog meat
where it was the local custom. They also had fewer problems with
scurvy.
-Sandra
jere...@yang.earlham.edu
true. Was the cat trying to eat some of the fish, and got sucked in, to
whatever machine does the fish packing? I wonder...
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robin rosenbaum
>Cindy Kandolf writes:
>>
>>.... where do we draw the line
>>between what's edible and what's "cute", ergo taboo?
>
>I personally find cows to be among the cutest animals ever to evolve.
>To get to the point, about the only thing I like better than a moo cow
>is a steak. Or a hamburger. Anything with cow in it.
>
>-Steve "cute and tasty too" Shaw
One thing that bothered me when I was little (7yrs, 9yrs, or so) was when
some friend of the family would call me "a darling little lamb."
My mother is the world's greatest cook when it comes to mutton; she served
leg o' lamb often, and especially for dinner guests.
Robin "not your little cabbage either by gum" Hilp
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Brian Abernathy
was being produced by the same company, and was mislabeled as tuna.
This actually happened about a month ago.
Henry Troup
consumption, relabelled as cat food, shipped from Canada to the U.S,
then re- re- labelled as tuna and sold. Eech!
Henry Troup - H...@BNR.CA (Canada) - BNR owns but does not share my opinions
2.7182818 is the answer