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Langley Muir

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Sep 26, 1993, 5:13:29 PM9/26/93
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I have been following this newsgroup for a couple of weeks now and have never
seen a UL that was very common in the Toronto area in the 1950s and goes
something like this:

Someone has a very cheap, brand new Cadillac (or other very expenxive car)
for sale. The only hitch is that there has been a dead body in the car for
a number of weeks and it is impossible to get the smell out of the
upholstry.

It is obviously false, simply because it is not very hard or expensive to
replace all teh upholstry in a car. However, I am surprised that no-one has
mentioned this, even in the FAQs. Surely it was not confined to a very small
area around Toronto.

John Miller

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Sep 26, 1993, 7:48:20 PM9/26/93
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Langley Muir (lm...@emr1.emr.ca) wrote:
: I have been following this newsgroup for a couple of weeks now and have never

First heard that one in Illinois in the early '50s. Cadillac, too, but
the car was supposedly in the Chicago area.
--
John "Didn't believe it then, either" Miller

Daniel B Case

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Sep 26, 1993, 11:26:00 PM9/26/93
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In article <1993Sep26.2...@emr1.emr.ca>, lm...@emr1.emr.ca (Langley Muir) writes...

It's in one of JHB's books, so it's got to be in the FAQ somewhere.

Dan "No, this is not a motto attempt for the FAQ" Case

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Terry Chan

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Sep 27, 1993, 2:23:20 AM9/27/93
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lm...@emr1.emr.ca (Langley Muir) lamely asserts:
->I have been following this newsgroup for a couple of weeks now
->and have never seen a UL that was very common in the Toronto area
->in the 1950s and goes something like this:

[Expensive but cheap car due to death smell UL deleted]
-
-> However, I am surprised that no-one has mentioned this, even
-> in the FAQs. Surely it was not confined to a very small
->area around Toronto.

Oh, you mean like the following line from an old version of the
FAQ?

F. Valuable classic car sold for pittance by (1) grieving parents of war dead
F,U(2) spouse of errant husband (3) heirs of person who died and rotted in it.

So, it's been done, and as Dan Case notes later on, written up by
JHB. Come on Langely, just because Canada is a few decades behind
the rest of the world....

Slightly more alert poster, v140...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (Daniel
B Case) writes:
-It's in one of JHB's books, so it's got to be in the FAQ somewhere.

Not a bad shot, Dan. Though for reasons I've outlined in the
past, not all of JHB's stuff are in the FAQ. That's why you
should buy his books (and of course Peter van der Linden's and
Bruce Tindall's).

Terry "But forget the Wall Street Journal" Chan
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bill nelson

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Sep 27, 1993, 1:23:24 AM9/27/93
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lm...@emr1.emr.ca (Langley Muir) writes:
: I have been following this newsgroup for a couple of weeks now and have never

As you conjecture, it is an old legend. It has been applied to just about
any expensive model of car that you can name.

If it isn't in the FAQ, it should be.

Bill

Tom Wood

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Sep 27, 1993, 10:46:08 AM9/27/93
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"The Death Car." One of the all-time classics. JHB _Vanishing Hitchhiker_
pp. 20-22; _Choking Doberman_ 212-13; _Mexican Pet_ pp. 12-13;
_Baby Train_ p. 133.

Check out Brunvands "Type-index of Urban Legends" in _The Baby
Train_. Cool!

Tom Wood
Sangamon State University
Springfield, Illinois
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Bob Rogers

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Sep 27, 1993, 12:28:19 PM9/27/93
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In article <1993Sep26.2...@emr1.emr.ca> lm...@emr1.emr.ca (Langley Muir) writes:
>It is obviously false, simply because it is not very hard or expensive to
>replace all teh upholstry in a car.

Absolutely, the Ford Museum in Detroit has the Lincoln that Kennedy was riding
in Dallas. The upholstry has been replaced. There's no detectable odor. The
Ford Museum must want to keep it's reputation as a reputable outfit, because
they have not given in to the temptation to put up signs like, "SEE JFK
DEATH CAR, 500 YARDS AHEAD." (They've also go a vial containing Edison's
last breath, the LINCOLN CHAIR OF DEATH, and an original Oscar Meyer
Weinermobile.)
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Tim Hartley

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Sep 27, 1993, 12:45:24 PM9/27/93
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In <1993Sep26.2...@emr1.emr.ca> lm...@emr1.emr.ca (Langley Muir) writes:

>I have been following this newsgroup for a couple of weeks now and have never
>seen a UL that was very common in the Toronto area in the 1950s and goes
>something like this:

>Someone has a very cheap, brand new Cadillac (or other very expenxive car)
>for sale. The only hitch is that there has been a dead body in the car for
>a number of weeks and it is impossible to get the smell out of the
>upholstry.

You're in luck. This has recently been made into a movie, just released
last week, I think. Anyway, you should be hearing a lot more of this
UL in coming months and years. ULs never really take off until
Hollywood hears about them.

By the way, the movie looks real cheesy. This is very important to
its UL value since it provides a nationwide starting point, but
most people won't have seen the movie and therefore won't recognize
the UL. The car has been changed to a small red sportster
(chase scenes are tough in a Cadillac), and the corpse is still in
the trunk (plot complication -- how to get rid of the body).

Timothy "Ebert" Hartley

Dan Mckinnon

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Sep 29, 1993, 5:05:00 PM9/29/93
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TH>>Someone has a very cheap, brand new Cadillac (or other very expenxive car)
TH>>for sale. The only hitch is that there has been a dead body in the car for
TH>>a number of weeks and it is impossible to get the smell out of the
TH>>upholstry.

Reminds me - on NYPD Blue last night (recommended), a detective was
harassing a mafioso-type at a construction site. At one point, he
grapped the chute from a cement truck and directed the contents into the
mug's car. No sign of a jealous husband, 'tho.

Dan "That cemented their relationship" McKinnon
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Neil MacAskill

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Oct 2, 1993, 3:52:03 AM10/2/93
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If Canada is a "few decades behind the rest of the world", why is it the U.S.
is only now getting close to 'Universal Health Care' for American citizens.
Canadians have enjoyed Universal Health care for decades actually, as have
citizens of most of the other civilized countries in the world.

(If you want to see what I was responding to, you'll have to follow the
thread backwards.)

Ciao.

Todd Evans

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Oct 1, 1993, 1:02:03 PM10/1/93
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In article <1993Sep26.2...@emr1.emr.ca> lm...@emr1.emr.ca (Langley
Muir) writes:
> It is obviously false, simply because it is not very hard or expensive to
> replace all teh upholstry in a car. However, I am surprised that no-one
has
> mentioned this, even in the FAQs. Surely it was not confined to a very
small
> area around Toronto.

I heard the same thing when I was a kid in Indiana about 15 years ago.
The story I heard involved a Corvette though. Also heard about the woman
who sold her very recent EX-husband's cadillac for $100 because he only
told her to sell the car and send the money. He didn't tell her how much
though... Pretty sure that one's about as accurate as the first.


Todd (Nice Car but what stinks) Evans

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Dan Mckinnon

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Oct 3, 1993, 3:41:00 PM10/3/93
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NM>behind the rest of the world", why is it the U.S.
NM>is only now getting close to 'Universal Health Care' for American citizens.
NM>Canadians have enjoyed Universal Health care for decades actually, as have
NM>citizens of most of the other civilized countries in the world.

NM>(If you want to see what I was responding to, you'll have to follow the
NM>thread backwards.)

NM>Ciao.

Um, gosh, how does one explain a catch like this, who is also a
fellow countryman?

Well:

1) B.C. does have a large fishing industry

and

2) It is known as the California of Canada

('tho of course 20 years behind)

Dan "Il est poisson du jour" McKinnon
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Terry Chan

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Oct 3, 1993, 11:16:35 PM10/3/93
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Alert, non-sense of humor-challenged Canadian dan.mc...@canrem.com
(Dan Mckinnon) quotes:
-NM>behind the rest of the world", why is it the U.S.
-NM>is only now getting close to 'Universal Health Care' for
-NM>American citizens. Canadians have enjoyed Universal Health
-NM>care for decades actually, as have citizens of most of the
-other civilized countries in the world.

-NM>(If you want to see what I was responding to, you'll have to
-NM>follow the thread backwards.)
-
-NM>Ciao.

Then writes:
- Um, gosh, how does one explain a catch like this, who is also a
-fellow countryman? [Two scientific reasons deleted for added
confusion.]

Well Dan, I was just trying to see how many Canadians actually
needed the mental health part of UHC. Sheesh! No wonder
they revoked my citizenship.

Terry "'Ciao'? Where's the Italian-Canadian part of Canada?" Chan

Paul Tomblin

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Oct 3, 1993, 11:33:59 PM10/3/93
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twc...@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:

>Terry "'Ciao'? Where's the Italian-Canadian part of Canada?" Chan

ObUL:
According to proud Italian-Canadians I've talked to, Toronto has the second
highest population of Italians of any city in the _world_. Since there are
something like 300-500K Italians in Toronto, I guess that means that there
aren't that many big cities in Italy, besides Rome.

ObPersonalRecollection (Hey, if cjl can do it...):
Mind you, having been in the Italian section of town the night BEFORE they
won the World Cup, I can believe it. Traffic for most of the city was
blocked off by all these maniacal Italians who thought they'd won already
just because they made the final. (I was politely told by a cop to stop
waving a German flag and singing Duetscheland Uber Alles)

Paul "But only Ottawa has Via Marconi" Tomblin

vjr...@ritvax.isc.rit.edu

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Oct 3, 1993, 11:16:15 PM10/3/93
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Nonononononono. A FOAF (the first F is a "father") told me this story in
Chicago, back in the late 60's, but it was a Mercedes-Benz, and she sold it for
$50. It happened (he swore) to a client of his.

This has also shown up in Ann Landers' column. So it *must* be true!

Vicki "MY ex- has an '86 Volvo--Interested?" Robinson

Terry Chan

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Oct 4, 1993, 1:51:40 AM10/4/93
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Our correspondent in Canada, Paul Tomblino writes:
-According to proud Italian-Canadians I've talked to, Toronto has the second
-highest population of Italians of any city in the _world_. Since there are
-something like 300-500K Italians in Toronto, I guess that means that there
-aren't that many big cities in Italy, besides Rome.

Toronto has the second highest population of Italians of any

city in the world? Toronto? Come on! Everybody that doesn't
have universal health care knows that the right answer is
Buenos Aires.

Terry "Last I heard, Toronto was overrun by Chinese" Chan

James x42773/RDCS/5-15-KO

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Oct 4, 1993, 4:04:48 PM10/4/93
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So... who says this is a step FORWARD for the US, and what makes it so
enjoyable for the Canadians? Perhaps an even better question is, why was it,
that a few years ago that people had to wait several weeks for CATscans
while pets could get them overnight? Canada's solution... stop pet owners
from getting scans for their pets, but it did nothing to speed up the wait
humans have to endure. This sure looks like an improvement to me. When my
Mother needed an MRI a few months ago, the only thing that delayed it was
the concern she had to many staples, along with a plate in her arm. True,
CATscans and MRI are two different beasts, but both are expensive, and if
the GOV. is going be paying the bill, they are going to limit the number of
scans per (time period). This is no benifit.

I will admit that some treatments do cost alot of money, and something
should be done to protect families from loseing all they have. But, once
the 'board' is in charge, all these parents who are making these heart-
break plea's for health reform will eventually find the state finding it
to expensive to maintain the care these folks are getting now. For the sake
of humanity, and 'dignity' for the children/elderly, they will be allowd to
die with respect.

Like it or not, ALL people in the US get medical care. Those who are lucky
enough to be able to afford insurance get preventive care, those without
do get emergency care. What we need to do is, like I started to say in the
last paragraph, is have means to insure people will get the mega-buck care
WHEN its really needed, and have THAT be buffered by GOV. help.

- jim


a.B. Mayers

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Oct 4, 1993, 11:58:29 PM10/4/93
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bat...@kodak.rdcs.kodak.com (James x42773/RDCS/5-15-KO) writes:
> Like it or not, ALL people in the US get medical care.

Boy, you sound like you even believe that...try volunteering in an inner
city slum

-aB "They can't even spell 'Health Care,' much less get any" Mayers
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Phil Gustafson

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Oct 5, 1993, 11:04:29 AM10/5/93
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Not so obviously. Here's an item from bush league Herb Caen Leigh Weimer's
column this morning:

Playing chicken with cars is bad enough, but this is too much. Tom
Hopkins had his car scheduled for service, so he dropped it off at the
garage. But he, and the service crew, were unaware that during a
grocery shopping trip the night before, a chicken breast had fallen
from a bag and lodged under one of the car's seats. The car sat in the
sun, windows up, over a weekend, and when a mechanic finally opened the
door the aroma inside was ripe. So ripe, in fact, that the stench
couldn't be eliminated, and Hopkins' insurance company ("I have
comprehensive") eventually paid him for a new vehicle.

I suppose that if one chicken part could terminally taint a Taurus in one
weekend, a whole corpse cooking in a Cadillac could put the kibosh on the
corpulent car's career con brio.

Phil "Now are there any Swedish foods involving herring and Volvoes?"
Gustafson

vjr...@ritvax.isc.rit.edu

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Oct 5, 1993, 1:31:22 PM10/5/93
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In article <CEFJ7...@rahul.net>, ph...@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>Langley Muir writes:

<New stinky car UL deleted>

>I suppose that if one chicken part could terminally taint a Taurus in one
>weekend, a whole corpse cooking in a Cadillac could put the kibosh on the

^^^^^^


>corpulent car's career con brio.

Is this one o' them newbie Kibo-trolls I've been reading so much about? If so,
do I get points, or am I even as I type thrashing around on Phil's deck?

>Phil "Now are there any Swedish foods involving herring and Volvoes?"
>Gustafson

Vicki "Now I'm sure of it--trolls were originally found in the Swedish forests
and Volvos" Robinson


James x42773/RDCS/5-15-KO

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Oct 5, 1993, 1:35:20 PM10/5/93
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In article <abm1.74...@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> ab...@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (a.B. Mayers) writes:
>bat...@kodak.rdcs.kodak.com (James x42773/RDCS/5-15-KO) writes:
>> Like it or not, ALL people in the US get medical care.
>
>Boy, you sound like you even believe that...try volunteering in an inner
>city slum
>

I can only give two examples...
When we first moved to Rochester we had to rush my daughter to the hospital
for a breathing problem (she had stopped doing so.) The room next to me had
a homeless man having his leg put into a cast. The conversation went...
- the front desk did not put down your address on the admitance form...
-that's because I don't have one.
- I know the ans., but have to ask, who's your insurance carrier.
- I have none.

WOW!, and they didn't rip that cast off him and toss him back to the street.
Instead, he was admitted. I remember this because I thought of how fortunate
he was since he was about to get a clean bed, and warm meal.

Then there is my cousin who works in one of the emergency rooms down in
New Orleans. Every night they are swamped with emergency's from the 'slums'.
True, they may have to wait awhile, but they DO get care.

As I said, in MOST cases, the uninsured do not receive preventave care, or
(and I didn't specify this the first time) care for minor illness/injury,
but they do get emergency care... and yes, I DO believe this.

cheers - jim

Dave Waite

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Oct 5, 1993, 3:33:55 PM10/5/93
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> >Someone has a very cheap, brand new Cadillac
> >(or other very expenxive car)for sale.

This reminded me of the rumor that Elvis bought brand
new Cadallac's on a whim. One time he boughta (insert
color here) cadallac, it ran out of gas a block away
from the dealership. He got out and hands the keys
and signs over the pink slip to the next person
walking by his car. He gives the person the car,
walks back to the dealership, and buys a new cadallac,
on the condition that this time it has a full tank of
gas.


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Oct 6, 1993, 7:02:28 PM10/6/93
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>bat...@kodak.rdcs.kodak.com (James x42773/RDCS/5-15-KO) writes:
>> Like it or not, ALL people in the US get medical care.
>
> Boy, you sound like you even believe that...try volunteering in an
> inner city slum

But when you're checking for pupillary response, DON'T BLINK YOUR
FLASHLIGHT AT THEM.

Brian "This shot won't hurt -- it's only birdshot" Scearce
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Dave Kappl

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Oct 6, 1993, 2:31:59 PM10/6/93
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This lore is also documented in
"The Headless Roomate and other Tales of Terror"
by Daniel Cohen. But, the car is a Mercedes.

Dave

Lee Rudolph

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Oct 7, 1993, 5:35:05 AM10/7/93
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dav...@microsoft.com (Dave Kappl) writes:

I've heard of strange living arrangements down on the farm--
thoroughbreds with feline stablemates, and so on--but this is
a new one. Why did the chook run in circles the wrong way 'round?

Lee "Kanga" Rudolph

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