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Somewhat different from the usual "funny facts" but it includes some of our
favorites including the one about flass glowing:

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If you disassembled the Great Pyramid of Cheops, you would get enough stones to
encircle the earth with a brick wall twenty inches high.

The New York City Police Department has a $3.3 annual budget, larger than all
but 19 of the world's armies.

In her later years, Florence Nightingale kept a pet owl in her pocket.

The New York Jets were unable to find hotel rooms for a game in Indianapolis
recently because they had all been booked up by people attending a Star Trek
convention.

Each year, sixteen million gallons of oil run off pavement into streams, rivers
and eventually oceans in the United States. This is more oil than was spilled by
the Exxon Valdez.

An employee of the Alabama Department of Transportation installed spyware on his
boss's computer and proved that the boss spent 10% of his time working (20% of
time checking stocks and 70% of the time playing solitaire). The employee was
fired, the boss kept his job.

In 1985, the most popular waist size for men's pants was 32. In 2003, it's 36.

Solid structures (parking lots, roads, buildings) in the United States cover an
area the size of Ohio.

A Brussels Airlines flight to Vienna was aborted because the pilot was attacked
in the cockpit. The attacker was a passenger's cat, who got out of its travel
bag.

Physicists have already performed a simple type of teleportation, transferring
the quantum characteristics of one atom onto another atom at a different
location.

At General Motors, the cost of health care for employees now exceeds the cost of
steel.

Television stations hung banners at the 2004 Democratic National Convention,
including Al-Jazeera, until it was noticed and taken down.

A woman was chewing what was left of her chocolate bar when she entered a Metro
station in Washington DC. She was arrested and handcuffed; eating is prohibited
in Metro stations.

The New York City subway system, in an effort to raise revenue, is considering
selling sponsorships of individual stations to corporations. Riders could soon
be getting off at Nike Grand Central Station or Sony Times Square.

Gillette spent $1,000,000 to place razor samples in the welcome bags handed out
at the Democratic National Convention, only to have them confiscated as they
were considered a threat. This caused huge delays at all security checkpoints.

The United States has five percent of the world's population, but twenty-five
percent of the world's prison population.

Seven percent of Americans claim they never bathe at all.

A house in Baghdad worth $15,000 before the Iraq war now sells for $120,000 to
$150,000.

There are between 5,000 and 7,000 tigers kept as pets in the United States.

The chicken is one of the few things that man eats before it's born and after
it's dead.

The number of US college students studying Latin is three times the number
studying Arabic.

In 2004, one in six girls in the United States enter puberty at age 8. A hundred
years ago, only one in a hundred entered puberty that early.

Some dogs can predict when a child will have an epileptic seizure, and even
protect the child from injury. They're not trained to do this, they simply learn
to respond after observing at least one attack.

32 out of 33 samples of well-known brands of milk purchased in Los Angeles and
Orange counties in California had trace amounts of perchlorate. Perchlorate is
the explosive component in rocket fuel.

The leading cause of on-the-job deaths in workplaces in America is homicide.

Americans take an average of just ten days per year vacation. In France, the law
guarantees everyone five weeks of vacation, and most full-time workers get two
full months vacation.

Van Halen singer David Lee Roth is training to be an EMT in New York City, and
plans to be certified by November 2004.

The thong accounts for 25% of the United States women's underwear market.

On average, 40% of all hotel rooms in the United States remain empty every
night.

There is a new television show on a British cable called "Watching Paint Dry".
Viewers watch in real-time. Gloss, semi-gloss, matte, satin, you name it. Then
viewers vote out their least favorite.

The largest ocean liners pay a $250,000 toll for each trip through the Panama
Canal. The canal generates fully one-third of Panama's entire economy.

French author Michel Thaler published a 233 page novel which has no verbs.

The spring thaw finally allows cemeteries in Alaska to start digging graves for
those who died during the winter.

When Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen turn 18 in mid-2004, they will take official
control of a company worth more than the gross national product of Mongolia.
Their earnings in 2003 topped $1 billion.

Orthodox rabbis warned that New York City drinking water might not be kosher; it
contains harmless micro-organisms that are technically shellfish.

David Bowie thinks he is being stalked by someone who is dressed like a giant
pink rabbit. Bowie has noticed the fan at several recent concerts, but he became
alarmed when he got on a plane and the bunny was on board.

A party boat filled with 60 men and women capsized in Texas after all the
passengers rushed to one side as the boat passed a nude beach.

In 1997, a woman in Bradenton, Florida lost her cat. In 2004, she got a call
from the local animal shelter. The cat turned up wandering the streets in San
Francisco, California. The cat's identity was proven with a microchip that had
been implanted prior to 1997.

Almost 20% of the billions of dollars American taxpayers are spending to rebuild
Iraq are lost to theft, kickbacks and corruption.

The treasury department has more than twenty people assigned to catching people
who violate the trade and tourism embargo with Cuba. In contrast, it has only
four employees assigned to track the assets of Osama bin Laden and Saddam
Hussein.

There are 40,000 New York City cab drivers, who collectively drive more than a
million miles each day.

An estimated 800,000 senior citizens voluntarily give up their driving
privileges each year. The average age at which they surrender the wheel is 85.

More than 8,100 US troops are still listed as missing in action from the Korean
war.

82% of Americans made a purchase at Wal-Mart in 2002.

Oslo, Norway is the world's most expensive city. A gallon on gas costs almost
$5, and it costs $1.32 to use the public restrooms.

Villanova University's commencement speaker this year is the actor who plays Big
Bird.

Kevin Spacey's older brother is a professional Rod Stewart impersonator.

71% of office workers stopped on the street for a survey agreed to give up their
computer passwords in exchange for a chocolate bar.

George W. Bush and John Kerry are 16th cousins, three times removed.

If current trends continue, Medicare costs will absorb 51% of all income tax
revenues by 2042.

Newest trend in the Netherlands: Tiny jewels implanted directly into the eye.

Researchers have found that doctors who spend at least three hours a week
playing video games make about 37% fewer mistakes in laparoscopic surgery than
surgeons who didn't play video games.

There are 1,008 McDonald's franchises in France.

World War II veterans are now dying at the rate of about 1,100 each day.

A deployed air bag adds as much as $2,000 to the cost of repairing a vehicle.
That's enough for insurance companies to often declare the car "totaled".

For the first time in history, the number of people on the planet aged 60 or
over will soon surpass those under 5.

A British gymnast survived a fall from a fourth story window because he went
into a somersault and came down on two feet.

One out of five people in the world (1.1 billion people) live on less than $1
per day.

The Swedish pop group ABBA recently turned down an offer of $2 billion to
reunite.

The New Yorker magazine now has more subscribers in California than New York.

Five years ago, 60% of all retail purchases were made with cash or check. Now
it's 50%. By 2010, 39% of purchases will be made by cash or check.

Legislators in Santa Fe, New Mexico, are considering a law that would require
pets to wear seat belts when traveling in a car.

SUV sales are up 18% in the first quarter of 2004 vs. the same period of 2003,
even though gas prices are skyrocketing. Consumer surveys show that gas prices
would have to hit $3.75 per gallon before there will be any real impact on SUV
sales.

Airport security agents at Logan Airport in Boston, Massachusetts caught a
passenger trying to sneak a severed seal head onto a plane inside a cooler. The
man said he was a biology professor and had found the dead animal on the beach.

There are 150,000,000 cell phones in use in the United States, more than one per
every two human beings in the country.

A Boeing 767 airliner is made of 3,100,000 separate parts.

The average child recognizes over 200 company logos by the time he enters first
grade.

Last December, the House of Representatives earmarked $50,000,000 to create an
indoor rain forest in Iowa.

Amusement park attendance goes up after a fatal accident. It seems many people
want to ride upon the same ride that killed someone.

Jeffrey and Sheryl McGowen in Houston turned to vitro fertilization. Two eggs
were implanted in Sheryl's womb, and both of them split. Sheryl gave birth to
two sets of identical twins at once.

For every ton of fish that is caught in all the oceans on our planet, there are
three tons of garbage dumped into the oceans.

Japanese and Chinese people die on the fourth of the month more often than any
other dates. The reason may be that they are "scared to death" by the number
four. The words four and death sound alike in both Chinese and Japanese.

People with initials that spell out GOD or ACE are likely to live longer than
people whose initials spell out words like APE, PIG, or RAT.

More people in the United States die during the first week of the month than
during the last, an increase that may be a result of the abuse of substances
purchased with benefit checks that come at the beginning of each month.

There are an average of 18,000,000 items for sale at any time on EBay.

On EBay, there are an average of $680 worth of transactions each second.

The New York Times reports that in February 2004, 62% of all e-mail was spam.

A Massachusetts surgeon left a patient with an open incision for 35 minutes
while he went to deposit a check.

In 1991, the average bra size in the United States was 34B. Today it's 36C.

U.K. telecom provider Telewest Broadband is testing a device that hooks to your
PC and wafts a scent when certain e-mails arrive.

The average North Korean 7-year-old is almost three inches shorter than the
average South Korean 7-year-old.

In 1993, David McLean developed lung cancer. He died on October 12, 1995.
McLean's death made him the second Marlboro Man to die of lung cancer. Another
actor, Wayne McLaren, died in 1992 at the age of 51 from lung cancer.

There is a bar in London that sells vaporized vodka, which is inhaled instead of
sipped.

According to market research firm NPD Fashionworld, fifty percent of all
lingerie purchases are returned to the store.

The Eiffel Tower shrinks 6 inches in winter.

The first FAX machine was patented in 1843, 33 years before Alexander Graham
Bell demonstrated the telephone.

72% of Americans sign their pets' names on greeting cards they send out.

In an effort to encourage the use of nuclear energy, the United States lent
highly enriched uranium to countries all over the world between 1950 and 1988.
Enough weapons-grade material to make 1,000 nuclear bombs has still not been
returned by such countries as Pakistan, Iran, Israel and South Africa.

Homing pigeons use roads where possible to help find their way home. In fact,
some pigeons followed roads so closely that they actually flew around traffic
circles before choosing the exit that led them home.

Every year, 2700 surgical patients go home from the hospital with metal tools,
sponges, and other objects left inside them. In 2000, 57 people died as a result
of these mistakes.

A snowflake can take up to a hour to fall from the cloud to the surface of the
Earth.

Only 5 percent of the ocean floor has been mapped in as much detail as the
surface of Mars.

We forget 80 percent of what we learn everyday.

Pain is measured in units of "dols". The instrument used to measure pain is a
"dolorimeter".

In a nod to astronauts, Texas is the only state that permits residents to cast
absentee ballots from space.

Eleven top executives of the Direct Marketing Association (the telemarketers'
group that is trying to kill the federal "Do Not Call" list) have registered for
the list themselves.

In 2003, the Transportation Security Administration dropped a requirement that
air marshals pass a marksmanship test. Some applicants were even hired after
they repeatedly shot flight attendants in mock hijacking episodes.

As of January 2004, the United States economy now borrows 1.5 BILLION dollars a
DAY from foreign investors.

A Costa Rican worker who makes baseballs earns about $2,750 annually. The
average American pro baseball player earns $2,377,000 per year.

Former keyboard player for Jethro Tull David Palmer is now a woman named Dee
Palmer. He waited until his wife died before going through with his longtime
desire for a sex change.

During Bill Clinton's entire eight year presidency, he only sent two e-mails.
One was to John Glenn when he was aboard the space shuttle, and the other was a
test of the e-mail system.

Albert Einstein never knew how to drive a car.

The UK's best selling hiking magazine published faulty coordinates for
descending Scotland's tallest peak (Ben Nevis), and recommended a route that
leads climbers off the edge of a cliff.

The Mars Rover "Spirit" is powered by six small motors the size of "C"
batteries. It has a top speed of 0.1 mph.

Zeppo Marx (the unfunny one of the Marx Brothers) had a patent for a wristwatch
with a heart monitor.

The entire town of Capena, Italy (including children as young as 2 years old)
lights up cigarettes each year in honor of St. Anthony's Day. This tradition is
centuries old.

The Amish a diet high in meat, dairy, refined sugars and calories. Yet obesity
is virtually unknown among them. The difference is since they have no TVs, cars
or powered machines, they spend their time in manual labor.

Microsoft threatened 17 year old Mike Rowe with a lawsuit after the young man
launched a website named MikeRoweSoft.com.

Each frame of the Lord of the Rings trilogy requires 12.5 mb in storage. Filmed
at 24 frames per second, that amounts to more than 3 million megabytes (3
petabytes) per episode.

As of January 1, 2004, the population of the United States increases by one
person every 12 seconds. There is a birth every eight seconds, an immigrant is
added every 25 seconds, but a death every 13 seconds.

There is a Starbucks in Myungdong, South Korea that is five stories tall.

Astronauts cannot burp in space. There is no gravity to separate liquid from gas
in their stomachs.

There has been no mail delivery in Canada on Saturday for the last thirty five
years.

The weight of air in a milk glass is about the same as the weight of an aspirin
tablet.

Every megabyte sent over the Internet takes two lumps of coal to power.

Finland has the greatest number of islands of any country in the world: 179,584.

The world's smallest winged insect is the Tanzanian parasitic wasp. It's smaller
than the eye of a housefly.

Two-thirds of the world's eggplant is grown in New Jersey.

Plate glass is actually a very thick liquid.

The winter of 1932 was so cold that Niagara Falls froze completely solid.

The glue on Israeli postage stamps is certified kosher.

If you have three quarters, four dimes and four cents, you have $1.19. But you
cannot make exact change for a dollar.

There are more plastic flamingoes in the United States than real ones.

The chance that you will die on the way to buy your lottery ticket is greater
than the chance of you winning the big prize in most lotteries.

Winston Churchill was born in a ladies' room during a dance.

Dolly Parton once lost a Dolly Parton Look-Alike contest.

An average of 100 people choke to death on ball point pens each year.

The National Anthem of Greece has 158 verses.

Barbie's full name is Barbara Millicent Roberts.

The liquid inside young coconuts can be used as a substitute for blood plasma.

The highest point in Pennsylvania is lower than the lowest point in Colorado.

The Bible has been translated into Klingon.

Toto was paid $125 per week while filming the "Wizard of Oz".

All polar bears are left handed.

In the early 1940s, Heinz produced a version of Alphabetti Spaghetti especially
for the German market that consisted only of little pasta swastikas.

To help reduce budget deficits, several states have begun reducing the amount of
food served to prison inmates. In Texas, the number of daily calories served to
prisoners was cut by 300, saving the state $6,000,000 per year.

The only member of the band ZZ Top without a beard has the last name Beard.

Pope John Paul II is the world's Scrabble champion in the over-70 category.

Montpelier, Vermont is the only state capitol without a McDonald's.

If the population of China walked past you in single file, the line would never
end because of the rate of reproduction.

Wearing headphones for an hour increases the bacteria in your ear 700 times.

In 1993, the board of governors at Carl Karcher Enterprises voted (5 to 2) to
fire Carl Karcher. Carl Karcher is the founder of Carls Jr. restaurants.

The little hole in the sink that lets the water drain out, instead of flowing
over the side, is called a "porcelator."

The wingspan of a Boeing 747 jet is longer than the Wright Brothers' first
flight.

Ted Turner owns 5% of New Mexico.

Over 8 years, this happened 284 times: "Cosmo" Kramer went through Jerry
Seinfeld's apartment door.

The cruise liner Queen Elizabeth 2 moves only six inches for each gallon of
diesel fuel that it burns.

There are more 100 dollar bills in Russia currently than there are in the United
States.

Maine has no poisonous snakes.

It is physically impossible for pigs to look up into the sky.

65% of Elvis impersonators are of Asian descent.

Maine is the only state whose name is a single syllable.

More people are killed annually by donkeys than die in air crashes.

Pope John Paul II was named an "Honorary Harlem Globetrotter" in 2000.

Woodward Avenue in Detroit, Michigan carries the designation M - 1, named so
because it was the first paved road anywhere.

There are only three types of snakes on the island of Tasmania and all three are
deadly poisonous.

It is believed that Shakespeare was 46 around the time that the King James
Version of the Bible was written. In Psalms 46, the 46th word from the first
word is "shake" and the 46th word from the last word is "spear".

On a Canadian two dollar bill, the flag flying over the Parliament building is
an American flag.

If you stretch a standard Slinky out flat it measures 87 feet long.

The strength of early lasers was measured in Gillettes, the number of blue razor
blades a given beam could puncture.

The drive-through line on opening day at the McDonald's restaurant in Kuwait
City, Kuwait was at times seven miles long.

Point Roberts in Washington State is cut off from the rest of the state by
British Columbia, Canada. If you wish to travel from Point Roberts to the rest
of the state or vice versa, you must pass through Canada, including both
Canadian and U.S. customs.

The Pentagon in Washington, D. C. has five sides, five stories, and five acres
in the middle.

Sylvia Miles had the shortest performance ever nominated for an Oscar with
"Midnight Cowboy." Her entire role lasted only six minutes.

There is an ATM at McMurdo Station in Antarctica, which has a winter population
of 200.

111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321

Newborn babies are given to the wrong mother in the hospital 12 times a day
worldwide.

The Starbucks at the highest elevation is on Main Street in Breckenridge,
Colorado.

In 1998, more fast-food employees were murdered on the job than police officers.

The lead singer of The Knack, famous for "My Sharona," and Jack Kevorkian's lead
defense attorney are brothers, Doug & Jeffrey Feiger.

Two very popular and common objects have the same function, but one has
thousands of moving parts, while the other has absolutely no moving parts - an
hourglass and a sundial.

One out of three employees who received a promotion were found to have been
using a coffee mug with the company logo on it.

If you know a millionaire who happens to be married, what is the most likely
profession of his wife? She's probably a teacher.

An ostrich's eye is bigger than its brain.

The two-foot long bird called a Kea that lives in New Zealand likes to eat the
strips of rubber around car windows.

1 pound of lemons contain more sugar than 1 pound of strawberries.

160 cars can drive side by side on the Monumental Axis in Brazil, the world's
widest road.

The "you are here" arrow on maps is called an ideo locator.

60% of all US potato products originate in Idaho.

61,000 people are airborne over the US at any given time.

A flamingo can eat only when its head is upside down.

Mark Twain was born on a day in 1835 when Halley's Comet came into view. When he
died in 1910, Halley's Comet was in view again.

A blind chameleon still changes colors to match his environment.

The Weddell seal can travel underwater for seven miles without surfacing for
air.

In 1963, baseball pitcher Gaylord Perry remarked, "They'll put a man on the moon
before I hit a home run." On July 20, 1969, a few hours after Neil Armstrong set
foot on the moon, Gaylord Perry hit his first (and only) home run.

A goldfish has a memory span of about 3 seconds.

The longest word in the English language with only one syllable is "screeched".

Pinocchio is Italian for "pine eye".

All of the clocks in the movie "Pulp Fiction" read 4:20.

A female ferret will die if it goes into heat and cannot find a mate.

A baby is born without kneecaps. They appear between age 2 and 6.

Women blink nearly twice as much as men.

Al Capone's business card said he was a used furniture dealer.

A snail can have about 25,000 teeth.

A snail can also sleep for three years.

A starfish can turn its stomach inside out.

A strand from the web of a golden spider is as strong as a steel wire of the
same size.

A toothpick is the object most often choked on by Americans.

About a third of all Americans flush the toilet while they're still sitting on
it.

According to Genesis 1:20-22 the chicken came before the egg.

Soldiers from every country salute with their right hand.

Moisture, not air, causes super glue to dry.

Only 14% of Americans say they've skinny dipped with the opposite sex.

What separates "60 Minutes" on CBS from every other TV show? No theme song or
music.

Half of all Americans live within 50 miles of their birthplace.

Most boat owners name their boats. The most popular boat name requested is
Obsession.

100% of all lottery winners gain weight.

An average American will spend an average of 6 months during his lifetime
waiting at red lights.

Cats can hear ultrasound.

In a recent survey, Americans revealed that banana was their favorite smell.

The arteries and veins surrounding the brain stem called the "circle of Willis"
looks like a stick person with a large head.

If you were to spell out numbers, you would you have to go until 1,000 until you
would find the letter "A".

Bullet proof vests, fire escapes, windshield wipers and laser printers were all
invented by women.

Married men change their underwear twice as often as single men.

A kiss stimulates 29 muscles and chemicals causing relaxation. Women seem to
like it light and frequent, men like it more strenuous.

There are more collect calls on Father's Day than any other day of the year.

Mel Blanc (voice of Bugs Bunny) was allergic to carrots.

40% of all people who come to a party in your home snoop in your medicine
cabinet.

3.9% of all women surveyed say they never wear underwear.

Superman is featured on every episode of "Seinfeld", either by name or pictures
on Jerry's refrigerator.

85% of the guys who cheat on their wives die while having sex.

Men can read smaller print than women; women can hear better.

Coca-Cola was originally green.

Every day more money is printed for Monopoly than for the US Treasury.

American Airlines saved $40,000 in 1987 by eliminating one olive from each salad
served first class.

Percentage of Africa that is wilderness: 28

Percentage of North America that is wilderness: 38

Percentage of American men who say they would marry the same woman if they had
it to do all over again: 80

Percentage of American women who say they would marry the same man: 50

Percentage of men who say they are happier after their divorce or separation: 58

Percentage of women who say they are happier: 85

Average life span of a major league baseball: 7 pitches

Percentage of bird species that are monogamous: 90

Percentage of mammal species that are monogamous: 3

Chances that a burglary in the US will be solved: 1 in 7

Portion of land in the US owned by the government: 1/3

Only bird that can fly backwards: Hummingbird

Only continent without reptiles or snakes: Antarctica

An eagle can kill a young deer and fly away with it.

In the Caribbean there are oysters that can climb trees.

Polar bears are left-handed.

February 1865 was the only month in recorded history that didn't have a full
moon.

Intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair.

The world's youngest parents were 8 and 9 and lived in China in 1910.

The youngest pope was 11 years old.

Mark Twain didn't graduate from elementary school.

Proportional to their weight, men are stronger than horses.

Pilgrims ate popcorn at the first Thanksgiving dinner.

Your nose and ears never stop growing.

Hot water is heavier than cold.

They have square watermelons in Japan...they stack better.

Iceland consumes more Coca-Cola per capita than any other nation.

Heinz Catsup leaving the bottle travels at 25 miles per year.

It is possible to lead a cow upstairs but not downstairs.

Men get hiccups more often than women.

Armadillos can be housebroken.

Human teeth are almost as hard as rocks.

The first Fords had engines made by Dodge.

A mole can dig a tunnel 300 feet long in just one night.

Peanuts are one of the ingredients in dynamite.

Ancient Egyptians slept on pillows made of stone.

A hippo can open its mouth wide enough to fit a 4 foot tall child inside.

A quarter has 119 grooves on its edge, a dime has one less groove.

A hummingbird weighs less than a penny.

Until 1796, there was a state in the United States called Franklin. Today it is
known as Tennessee.

Every time you lick a stamp, you're consuming 1/10 of a calorie.

The average person has over 1,460 dreams a year.

One in every 4 Americans has appeared on television.

The average American will eat about 11.9 pounds of cereal per year.

You're born with 300 bones, but when you get to be an adult, you only have 206.

Human thigh bones are stronger than concrete.

Over 1000 birds a year die from smashing into windows.

The State of Florida is bigger than England.

Ants stretch when they wake up in the morning.

It's against the law to have a pet dog in Iceland.

Your heart beats over 100,000 times a day.

Thomas Edison, light bulb inventor, was afraid of the dark.

During your lifetime, you'll eat about 60,000 pounds of food. That's the weight
of about 6 elephants.

Some ribbon worms will eat themselves if they can't find any food.

Dolphins sleep with one eye open.

The worlds oldest piece of chewing gum is 9000 years old.

In space, astronauts cannot cry, because there is no gravity, so the tears can't
flow.

About 3000 years ago, most Egyptians died by the time they were 30.

More people use blue toothbrushes than red ones.

A sneeze travels out your mouth at over 100 m.p.h.

Your ribs move about 5 million times a year, every time you breathe.

In the White House, there are 13,092 knives, forks and spoons.

Slugs have 4 noses.

Recycling one glass jar saves enough energy to watch TV for 3 hours.

Lightning strikes about 6,000 times per minute on this planet.

Owls are the only birds who can see the color blue.

The average American drinks about 600 sodas a year.

It's against the law to slam your car door in Switzerland.

There wasn't a single pony in the Pony Express, just horses.

Honeybees have hair on their eyes.

A jellyfish is 95 percent water.

In Bangladesh, kids as young as 15 can be jailed for cheating on their finals.

A company in Taiwan makes dinnerware out of wheat, so you can eat your plate.

The elephant is the only mammal that can't jump.

The penguin is the only bird who can swim, but not fly.

The most common name in the world is Mohammed.

Q is the only letter in the alphabet that does not appear in the name of any of
the United States.

One quarter of the bones in your body are in your feet.

America once issued a 5-cent bill.

You'll eat about 35,000 cookies in your lifetime.

Like fingerprints, everyone's tongue print is different.

Babe Ruth wore a cabbage leaf under is cap to keep him cool. He changed it every
2 innings.

Fortune cookies were actually invented in America, in 1918, by Charles Jung.

A man named Charles Osborne had the hiccups for 69 years.

A giraffe can clean its ears with its 21-inch tongue.

Chewing gum while peeling onions will keep you from crying.

The pitches that Babe Ruth hit for his last-ever homerun and that Joe DiMaggio
hit for his first-ever homerun where thrown by the same man.

Bats always turn left when exiting a cave.

The praying mantis is the only insect that can turn its head.

In Tokyo, they sell toupees for dogs.

There are over 52.6 million dogs in the U.S.

Dogs and cats consume almost $7 billion worth of pet food a year.

Fingernails grow nearly 4 times faster than toenails.

Baby robins eat 14 feet of earthworms every day.

In England, in the 1880's, "Pants" was considered a dirty word.

Most dust particles in your house are made from dead skin.

In 2003, there were 86 days of below-freezing weather in Hell, Michigan.

The average person laughs 15 times a day.

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JoAnne "mmm, severed seal heads" Schmitz

John Francis

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> http://funny2.com/facts.htm
>
> Somewhat different from the usual "funny facts" but it includes some of
our
> favorites including the one about flass glowing:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
>
> If you disassembled the Great Pyramid of Cheops, you would get enough
stones to
> encircle the earth with a brick wall twenty inches high.

Maybe, but laying those bricks across the ocean will be a real bitch.

> In her later years, Florence Nightingale kept a pet owl in her pocket.

I have a trouser snake in mine.

> Solid structures (parking lots, roads, buildings) in the United States
cover an
> area the size of Ohio.

I knew it! We really do have parking lots bigger than some countries in
Europe.

> The number of US college students studying Latin is three times the number
> studying Arabic.

Never know when you might meet a Roman.

> Americans take an average of just ten days per year vacation. In France,
the law
> guarantees everyone five weeks of vacation, and most full-time workers get
two
> full months vacation.

Which is why productivity in France is so low compared to the US.

> More than 8,100 US troops are still listed as missing in action from the
Korean
> war.

IIRC, about 10 times that many are still missing from WW2.

> 71% of office workers stopped on the street for a survey agreed to give up
their
> computer passwords in exchange for a chocolate bar.

Why not? I can probably get back to the office and change it before you can
use it. And my IT guys are one phone call away and can lock access in 5
seconds.

> A Boeing 767 airliner is made of 3,100,000 separate parts.

And all made by the lowest bidder.

> In 1991, the average bra size in the United States was 34B. Today it's
36C.

Yes!!!

> The average North Korean 7-year-old is almost three inches shorter than
the
> average South Korean 7-year-old.

Yeah, hard to grow right when you all have to eat is tree bark soup.

> In a nod to astronauts, Texas is the only state that permits residents to
cast
> absentee ballots from space.

Postage must be out of this world.

> In 2003, the Transportation Security Administration dropped a requirement
that
> air marshals pass a marksmanship test. Some applicants were even hired
after
> they repeatedly shot flight attendants in mock hijacking episodes.

Hey, we all want to cap an attendent every now and then.

> Every megabyte sent over the Internet takes two lumps of coal to power.

Which I why use four hamsters hooked up to parallel wheels. Renewable
energy.

> Married men change their underwear twice as often as single men.

Not by choice.

> The worlds oldest piece of chewing gum is 9000 years old.

Who keeps it going?


Don Del Grande

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Sep 17, 2004, 9:58:50 PM9/17/04
to
JoAnne Schmitz wrote:

>71% of office workers stopped on the street for a survey agreed to give up their
>computer passwords in exchange for a chocolate bar.

What percentage of them either gave false passwords or immediately
changed their actual passwords upon getting back to the computer in
question?


>72% of Americans sign their pets' names on greeting cards they send out.

Do at least 72% of Americans even have pets?

>Each frame of the Lord of the Rings trilogy requires 12.5 mb in storage. Filmed
>at 24 frames per second, that amounts to more than 3 million megabytes (3
>petabytes) per episode.

3 million MB = 3 terabytes (and terabytes is correct; 12.5 MB/frame =
300 MB/second = 1.8 GB / minute = 3.6 TB in 200 minutes).


>Dolly Parton once lost a Dolly Parton Look-Alike contest.

Liberace once "appeared" on "Truth or Consequences" over a phone, and
all three contestants who were asked if it was Liberace or an
impersonator said it was an impersonator - because Liberace sounded
little like the way most impersonators (and, as a result, most people
who hear them) do his voice.


>In 1993, the board of governors at Carl Karcher Enterprises voted (5 to 2) to
>fire Carl Karcher. Carl Karcher is the founder of Carls Jr. restaurants.

When did Carls Jr. merge with Hardee's?


>The longest word in the English language with only one syllable is "screeched".

They printed this in the 2005 Old Farmer's Almanac as well - but what
about "straights" (two or more poker hands consisting of five cards in
sequence) or "strengths"?


>The first Fords had engines made by Dodge.

The earliest Ford Probes had engines made by Mazda. (I bought one in
mid-1988.)


>JoAnne "mmm, severed seal heads" Schmitz

>A man named Charles Osborne had the hiccups for 69 years.

"(hic) kill me (hic) kill me (hic) kill me..."

-- Don

Crashj

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Sep 18, 2004, 12:17:49 AM9/18/04
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On 17 Sep 2004 14:55:18 -0700, JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net>
wrote:
Just for fun comments and trimmage by Crashj:
>http://funny2.com/facts.htm

>If you disassembled the Great Pyramid of Cheops, you would get
>enough stones to
>encircle the earth with a brick wall twenty inches high.
I understand water into wine, but how do you get stones into bricks?

>The New York City Police Department has a $3.3 annual budget,
> larger than all but 19 of the world's armies.
They blow the budget on one happy meal?

>In her later years, Florence Nightingale kept
> a pet owl in her pocket.
Well, if she had kept one there in her __earlier__ years they would
have put her in the nut house, right?

>The New York Jets were unable to find hotel rooms for a game
> in Indianapolis
>recently because they had all been booked up by people
> attending a Star Trek convention.
Lo-cally, the Hershey car show, Carlisle car shows, and York hot rod
convention all create the same problem. Poor team planning, not an
unusual event.

>In 1985, the most popular waist size for men's pants was 32.
> In 2003, it's 36.
Most common, but not most popular.

>Solid structures (parking lots, roads, buildings) in the
> United States cover an area the size of Ohio.
Unfortunatley it is not all in Ohio.

>At General Motors, the cost of health care for
> employees now exceeds the cost of steel.
And will soon exceed the cost of everything else. Last figure I heard
it was 11% GNP. Which is exactly why we will eventually have to ration
health care.

>A woman was chewing what was left of her chocolate bar
> when she entered a Metro
>station in Washington DC. She was arrested and handcuffed;
> eating is prohibited in Metro stations.
Her problem was being an asshole about it to the female cop.

>
>The New York City subway system, in an effort to raise revenue,
> is considering selling sponsorships of individual stations to corporations.
> Riders could soon be getting off at Nike Grand Central Station or Sony Times Square.
Great Idea. Works for stadiums, right? Let me know when they start on
the Kodak Yosymite Park?
I'm getting off at Hooters! WoWo!

>The United States has five percent of the world's population, but twenty-five
>percent of the world's prison population.
We tend to keep our crooks alive longer. We also catch more. Seems our
system works well. In Africa, Russia, and Italy they are mostly still
running around loose.

>A house in Baghdad worth $15,000 before the Iraq war now
> sells for $120,000 to $150,000.
We are trying to improve things. Starting with property values?

>The leading cause of on-the-job deaths in
> workplaces in America is homicide.
Other than that OSHA is doing a fine job, eh?

>Van Halen singer David Lee Roth is training to be
> an EMT in New York City,
> and plans to be certified by November 2004.
And a fine one he will be, I am sure.
"I used to be a surgical orderly in South Central L.A.," he told the
New York Daily News yesterday. "I started that when I got out of
junior college in the early '70s, and that led to a variety of things
in the outdoor medical fire force and training with the Green Berets.
... My father was a surgeon and uncles and my cousins were also in the
medical community, so I come by it natural."
<>
>Orthodox rabbis warned that New York City drinking water
>might not be kosher; it
>contains harmless micro-organisms that are technically shellfish.
Now THAT'S funny! So buy a gefilter.

>Almost 20% of the billions of dollars American taxpayers are
> spending to rebuild Iraq are lost to theft, kickbacks and corruption.
Check the pockets of the UN officials and you will find a lot more
than that from the oil for food program.

>Kevin Spacey's older brother is a professional Rod Stewart impersonator.
I would find something obscure to do if I were Kevin's brother, also.

>If current trends continue, Medicare costs will absorb
>51% of all income tax revenues by 2042.
See above comments on rationing medicine. It will happen.

>World War II veterans are now dying at the rate of about 1,100 each day.
The local newsguy reported they are dying at "an alarming rate."
Seeing as how they were born before 1927 I do not find that at all
unexpected, unusual, or alarming. It's just old age.

>One out of five people in the world (1.1 billion people)
> live on less than $1 per day.
Yeah, but have you seen where they __live__?

>Five years ago, 60% of all retail purchases were made
>with cash or check. Now it's 50%.
>By 2010, 39% of purchases will be made by cash or check.
And how many will be over the Internet with EFT or plastic?

>There are an average of 18,000,000 items for sale at any time on EBay.
>On EBay, there are an average of $680 worth of transactions each second.
"is." The subject in each of those sentences is singular. "average"

>In 1991, the average bra size in the United States was 34B. Today it's 36C.
Our work here is done, King.

<>
<>
<>
>Two-thirds of the world's eggplant is grown in New Jersey.
What, the rest of it hangs out in New York?

>Plate glass is actually a very thick liquid.
Not here it isn't.

<>
>The chance that you will die on the way to
> buy your lottery ticket is greater
>than the chance of you winning the big prize in most lotteries.
Thanks, I will use that one.

<>
>In the early 1940s, Heinz produced a version of Alphabetti Spaghetti especially
>for the German market that consisted only of little pasta swastikas.
And if what's his name wins, it will come back?

>If the population of China walked past you in single file, the line would never
>end because of the rate of reproduction.
Yeah? How're they gonna screw standing in line?

>Over 8 years, this happened 284 times: "Cosmo" Kramer went through Jerry
>Seinfeld's apartment door.
Doorway. I hope.

>More people are killed annually by donkeys than die in air crashes.
Just women, though, right?

<>
>In 1998, more fast-food employees were murdered on the job than police officers.
A good reason to give them guns, I'd say.

>
<>
>If you know a millionaire who happens to be married, what is the most likely
>profession of his wife? She's probably a teacher.
You now will learn that 3% of the millionaires are women who own their
own business - selling cosmetics. Think Pink.

<>
>In 1963, baseball pitcher Gaylord Perry remarked, "They'll put a man on the moon
>before I hit a home run." On July 20, 1969, a few hours after Neil Armstrong set
>foot on the moon, Gaylord Perry hit his first (and only) home run.
Good luck , Mr. Perry.

<>
>If you were to spell out numbers, you would you have to go
> until 1,000 until you would find the letter "A".
Unless you are Lawrence Welk.

>
>Bullet proof vests, fire escapes, windshield wipers and laser printers were all
>invented by women.
And don't forget the secure radio transmission concept invented by
Hedwig Eva Maria Kiesler

<>
>Only bird that can fly backwards: Hummingbird
You have never watched hawks much, have you?

<>
>Hot water is heavier than cold.
Hey! Water reaches maximum density at 4*C You have extended a fact
which is true in limited circumstances into a generality. You must be
a democrat.

>Human teeth are almost as hard as rocks.
But not as hard as Rock candy.

<>
>Every time you lick a stamp, you're consuming 1/10 of a calorie.
So it better be kosher?

<>
>You're born with 300 bones, but when you get to be an adult, you only have 206.
But what about the kneecaps?

>Over 1000 birds a year die from smashing into windows.
I would think this is off by several orders of magnitude.

>Thomas Edison, light bulb inventor, was afraid of the dark.
Motivation!

>During your lifetime, you'll eat about 60,000 pounds of food. That's the weight
>of about 6 elephants.
One bite at a time.

>The worlds oldest piece of chewing gum is 9000 years old.
It was found stuck to the bottom of a seat in a Babylonian theater.

<>
>In the White House, there are 13,092 knives, forks and spoons.
But no "W" on the computer keyboards?

<>
>The elephant is the only mammal that can't jump.
That's the kneecap thing again, right?

<>
>In Tokyo, they sell toupees for dogs.
>There are over 52.6 million dogs in the U.S.
Yabbut do they have to go to Tokyo for a toupee?

<>
>In 2003, there were 86 days of below-freezing weather in Hell, Michigan.
ITYM, in the Winter of 2002-2003, otherwise you are dealing with the
end of the previous Winter and the start of the next one which would
be 2003-2004. Or maybe not.
Pendantly yours,
--
Crashj

Thomas Prufer

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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 01:58:50 GMT, Don Del Grande <del_gra...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>>The longest word in the English language with only one syllable is "screeched".
>
>They printed this in the 2005 Old Farmer's Almanac as well - but what
>about "straights" (two or more poker hands consisting of five cards in
>sequence) or "strengths"?

I'll think about this as I'm being broughammed to the train station.

Thomas Prufer

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Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Sep 18, 2004, 8:01:33 AM9/18/04
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JoAnne Schmitz wrote:

> If you disassembled the Great Pyramid of Cheops, you would get enough stones to
> encircle the earth with a brick wall twenty inches high.

Just for the heck of it, I did the math on this one. The volume of the
great pyramid is 158,345,946,250 cu. in. The circumference of the earth
at the equator is approximately 1,583,460,000 inches, an amazing
coincidence. So, if the pyramid were completely solid [which it isn't]
and if you cut up all the stones into stone bricks measuring 2 inches
high and 2.5 inches wide [and any convenient length], and had some way
of laying brick along ocean bottoms, you could indeed build a wall 20
inches high and 5 inches wide completely around the earth.

Charles

--

"And some rin up hill and down dale, knapping the
chucky stanes to pieces wi' hammers, like sae mony
road-makers run daft -- they say it is to see how
the warld was made!"

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Sep 18, 2004, 8:24:43 AM9/18/04
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Crashj wrote:

> On 17 Sep 2004 14:55:18 -0700, JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net>
> wrote:

>>Two-thirds of the world's eggplant is grown in New Jersey.
>
> What, the rest of it hangs out in New York?

Figures I have seen indicate that Asia accounts for 78% of
world eggplant production. I know darn well that New Jersey
is not the world leader in eggplant production. Turkey
produces more than New Jersey. Turkey's annual production is
about 19% of total world production. I can't immediately lay
my hands on New Jersey production figures, but world production
of eggplant is between 8 and 9 million tons a year. I suspect
that total New Jersey production is about 10,000 tons a year.
At least two other states in the US of A produce more eggplant
than that.

Staffan S

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Sep 18, 2004, 8:39:39 AM9/18/04
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"JoAnne Schmitz" <jsch...@qis.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:cifmg...@drn.newsguy.com...

> http://funny2.com/facts.htm
>
> Somewhat different from the usual "funny facts" but it includes some of
our
> favorites including the one about flass glowing:
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
>
>

>


> Seven percent of Americans claim they never bathe at all.

How many of those shower regularly?

>
> The number of US college students studying Latin is three times the
number
> studying Arabic.

Why is that surprising? Latin America is much closer than Arabia, duh! <
Insert emoticon here>

>
> 32 out of 33 samples of well-known brands of milk purchased in Los
Angeles and
> Orange counties in California had trace amounts of perchlorate.
Perchlorate is
> the explosive component in rocket fuel.

Not exactly accurate. It is the oxidizing agent, i.e. supplies the oxygen
needed for the fuel to burn (in solid fuel rockets).

> The leading cause of on-the-job deaths in workplaces in America is
homicide.

I would have thought that traffic accidents would be a bigger cause.

>
>
> The Swedish pop group ABBA recently turned down an offer of $2 billion
to
> reunite.

Rumor says.

>
> Airport security agents at Logan Airport in Boston, Massachusetts caught
a
> passenger trying to sneak a severed seal head onto a plane inside a
cooler. The
> man said he was a biology professor and had found the dead animal on the
beach.

I might be out of touch with the current security measures. Have seal
heads been reclassified as dangerous objects? Why else the words "caught"
and "sneak"?

>
> More people in the United States die during the first week of the month
than
> during the last, an increase that may be a result of the abuse of
substances
> purchased with benefit checks that come at the beginning of each month.

"...may be..." translates as "we guess". As far as I know most working
people have their salaries paid at the end at the month. At least some of
them use this money on "substances". Oh, by the way, "substances" can be
anything from heroin to marmalade.

>
> Every megabyte sent over the Internet takes two lumps of coal to power.

Steam-powered Internet?

>
>
>
> 85% of the guys who cheat on their wives die while having sex.

And how did they determine which guys cheat on their wives?


> In the Caribbean there are oysters that can climb trees.

What?!

>
> Hot water is heavier than cold.

For values of hot around +4 centigrade and cold below +4.

>
Staffan Sjoberg


Sara Lorimer

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Sep 18, 2004, 8:50:19 AM9/18/04
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JoAnne Schmitz wrote:

> http://funny2.com/facts.htm
>
> Somewhat different from the usual "funny facts" but it includes some of our
> favorites including the one about flass glowing:
>
> ----------------------------------------------

> The New York City Police Department has a $3.3 annual budget, larger than all


> but 19 of the world's armies.

That's not even enough for two subway rides.

--
SML

Par Leijonhufvud

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Sep 18, 2004, 11:25:38 AM9/18/04
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Staffan S <qswitch2....@passagen.se>:

> > Airport security agents at Logan Airport in Boston, Massachusetts caught
> a
> > passenger trying to sneak a severed seal head onto a plane inside a
> cooler. The
> > man said he was a biology professor and had found the dead animal on the
> beach.
>
> I might be out of touch with the current security measures. Have seal
> heads been reclassified as dangerous objects? Why else the words "caught"
> and "sneak"?

Might there be (a) local regulations regarding the handling of parts of
seals, or (b) airline regulations regarding what you are allowed to
take as carry on luggage (or even as checked bagage)?

On the other hand, a seal cranium _would_ look nice in my office.

Par "not a Navy Seal" Leijonhufvud

--
Par Leijonhufvud use...@hunter-gatherer.org
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

R H Draney

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Sep 18, 2004, 11:40:47 AM9/18/04
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Juergen Nieveler filted:

>
>JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net> wrote:
>
>> The chicken is one of the few things that man eats before it's born
>> and after it's dead.
>
>Fish is another example

I'm trying to think of anything we eat in between those times....

No, strike that...I'm trying desperately *not* to think of that....

>> Ancient Egyptians slept on pillows made of stone.
>

>Romans, too...

Maybe a few Egyptians slept on Romans, but I have trouble thinking it was
anything like a trend....r

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Sep 18, 2004, 1:14:40 PM9/18/04
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Staffan S wrote:
> "JoAnne Schmitz" <jsch...@qis.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:cifmg...@drn.newsguy.com...

>>In the Caribbean there are oysters that can climb trees.

> What?!

I rather doubt this one. Unlike many snails which are able to
survive out of the water for various lengths of time, Bivalvia
are not so equipped. When exposed at low tide all they can do
is clam up until the water returns. Not only that, but Oysters,
unlike many other members of the Bivalvia, do not have a
functional "foot". It _is_ possible to see oysters clinging
to the roots of mangrove trees when the tide goes out in
many places, but that's not the same thing as "climb trees".

charles

Anthony McCafferty

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Sep 18, 2004, 1:14:30 PM9/18/04
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In article <gbnnk0di92rlmvfb6...@4ax.com>, Thomas Prufer
<pru...@i-dial.de.invalid> writes:

>I'll think about this as I'm being broughammed to the train station.

Thank you. I believe you have helped make The World's Worst Pun even more
hideous.

Anthony "The bonny, bonny brougham. The brougham of the cow, de Knowes"
McCafferty

JoAnne Schmitz

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Sep 18, 2004, 1:15:50 PM9/18/04
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:39:39 GMT, "Staffan S"
<qswitch2....@passagen.se> wrote:

>> The leading cause of on-the-job deaths in workplaces in America is
>homicide.
>
>I would have thought that traffic accidents would be a bigger cause.

*In* workplaces?

>> More people in the United States die during the first week of the month
>than
>> during the last, an increase that may be a result of the abuse of
>substances
>> purchased with benefit checks that come at the beginning of each month.
>
>"...may be..." translates as "we guess". As far as I know most working
>people have their salaries paid at the end at the month.

Not in the U.S. -- generally we get paid weekly or every other week.

JoAnne "very weakly, har de har har" Schmitz

--

The new Urban Legends website is <http://www.tafkac.org>
That's TAFKAC.ORG
Do not accept lame imitations at previously okay URLs

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Karen J. Cravens

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Sep 18, 2004, 3:35:37 PM9/18/04
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begin Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nie...@arcor.de> quotation from
news:Xns95688625EDB8...@nieveler.org:

> JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net> wrote:
>> An employee of the Alabama Department of Transportation installed
>> spyware on his boss's computer and proved that the boss spent 10% of
>> his time working (20% of time checking stocks and 70% of the time
>> playing solitaire). The employee was fired, the boss kept his job.
>

> Actual fact, was discussed in a privacy-group recently. And yes, it was
> right to fire him, and it was also right not to fire his boss over
> evidence aquired illegaly...

Not *quite* fact... it was 10% of his *computer* time, and I still haven't
seen anyone come up with how much of his boss's job actually required
computer use.



>> Seven percent of Americans claim they never bathe at all.
>

> See above...

I expect an even higher percentage of us only bathe once every couple of
years, or so. I'm one of them.

--
Karen J. Cravens


Karen J. Cravens

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Sep 18, 2004, 3:44:22 PM9/18/04
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begin "Staffan S" <qswitch2....@passagen.se> quotation from
news:f0W2d.3550$d5.2...@newsb.telia.net:

>> Airport security agents at Logan Airport in Boston, Massachusetts
>> caught
> a
>> passenger trying to sneak a severed seal head onto a plane inside a
> cooler. The
>> man said he was a biology professor and had found the dead animal on
>> the
> beach.
>
> I might be out of touch with the current security measures. Have seal
> heads been reclassified as dangerous objects? Why else the words
> "caught" and "sneak"?

It was a violation of federal wildlife laws. To carry around bits of
(marine, at least) mammals, you need a permit (which, depending on the
species, is often easy to get for educators; it's just intended to prevent
people from using "I found it already dead" as a defense for poaching).
Transporting them is doubly illegal, as I recall.

Same is true for bird nests, feathers, and other suchlike. (Migratory
Bird Treaty Act or something like, though all birds are "migratory" in
much the same way that all commerce is "interstate.")

--
Karen J. Cravens


Karen J. Cravens

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Sep 18, 2004, 3:45:09 PM9/18/04
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begin que.sara....@gmail.com (Sara Lorimer) quotation from
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Maybe some of the world's armies get youth fares.

--
Karen J. Cravens


Bob Ward

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Sep 18, 2004, 4:34:19 PM9/18/04
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:24:43 GMT, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
<cdim...@snet.net> wrote:

>Crashj wrote:
>
>> On 17 Sep 2004 14:55:18 -0700, JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net>
>> wrote:
>
>>>Two-thirds of the world's eggplant is grown in New Jersey.
>>
>> What, the rest of it hangs out in New York?
>
>Figures I have seen indicate that Asia accounts for 78% of
>world eggplant production. I know darn well that New Jersey
>is not the world leader in eggplant production. Turkey
>produces more than New Jersey. Turkey's annual production is
>about 19% of total world production. I can't immediately lay
>my hands on New Jersey production figures, but world production
>of eggplant is between 8 and 9 million tons a year. I suspect
>that total New Jersey production is about 10,000 tons a year.
>At least two other states in the US of A produce more eggplant
>than that.
>
>Charles


"New Jersey, you're no eggplant!"


Bob Ward

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Sep 18, 2004, 4:35:25 PM9/18/04
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On 18 Sep 2004 11:24:15 GMT, Juergen Nieveler
<juergen.nie...@arcor.de> wrote:

>
>> The New York City Police Department has a $3.3 annual budget, larger
>> than all but 19 of the world's armies.
>

>It also has more enemies that most armies, and fires more shots in
>anger than most armies...

Gee - my annual budget is greater than $3.3, too. What are the odds?


Ben Zimmer

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Sep 18, 2004, 4:33:36 PM9/18/04
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"Charles Wm. Dimmick" wrote:
>
> Crashj wrote:
>
> > On 17 Sep 2004 14:55:18 -0700, JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Two-thirds of the world's eggplant is grown in New Jersey.
> >
> > What, the rest of it hangs out in New York?
>
> Figures I have seen indicate that Asia accounts for 78% of
> world eggplant production. I know darn well that New Jersey
> is not the world leader in eggplant production. Turkey
> produces more than New Jersey. Turkey's annual production is
> about 19% of total world production. I can't immediately lay
> my hands on New Jersey production figures, but world production
> of eggplant is between 8 and 9 million tons a year. I suspect
> that total New Jersey production is about 10,000 tons a year.
> At least two other states in the US of A produce more eggplant
> than that.

See "The Great Garden State Eggplant Myth" from New Jersey Monthly:

http://www.njmonthly.com/issues/Apr03/gv.html

New Jersey's actually fourth in the nation in eggplant production.


Ben "Little Eggplant Harbor can only produce so much" Zimmer

Bob Ward

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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:39:39 GMT, "Staffan S"
<qswitch2....@passagen.se> wrote:

>> Airport security agents at Logan Airport in Boston, Massachusetts caught
>a
>> passenger trying to sneak a severed seal head onto a plane inside a
>cooler. The
>> man said he was a biology professor and had found the dead animal on the
>beach.
>
>I might be out of touch with the current security measures. Have seal
>heads been reclassified as dangerous objects? Why else the words "caught"
>and "sneak"?


Yeah, why "sneak"? Don't they allow carrion any more?


Bob Ward

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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:15:50 -0400, JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:39:39 GMT, "Staffan S"
><qswitch2....@passagen.se> wrote:
>
>>> The leading cause of on-the-job deaths in workplaces in America is
>>homicide.
>>
>>I would have thought that traffic accidents would be a bigger cause.
>
>*In* workplaces?
>
>>> More people in the United States die during the first week of the month
>>than
>>> during the last, an increase that may be a result of the abuse of
>>substances
>>> purchased with benefit checks that come at the beginning of each month.
>>
>>"...may be..." translates as "we guess". As far as I know most working
>>people have their salaries paid at the end at the month.
>
>Not in the U.S. -- generally we get paid weekly or every other week.
>
>JoAnne "very weakly, har de har har" Schmitz


I think "benefit checks" would pretty much rule out salaries.


Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Ben Zimmer wrote:

> "Charles Wm. Dimmick" wrote:
>
>>Crashj wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On 17 Sep 2004 14:55:18 -0700, JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net>
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Two-thirds of the world's eggplant is grown in New Jersey.
>>>
>>>What, the rest of it hangs out in New York?
>>
>>Figures I have seen indicate that Asia accounts for 78% of
>>world eggplant production. I know darn well that New Jersey
>>is not the world leader in eggplant production. Turkey
>>produces more than New Jersey. Turkey's annual production is
>>about 19% of total world production. I can't immediately lay
>>my hands on New Jersey production figures, but world production
>>of eggplant is between 8 and 9 million tons a year. I suspect
>>that total New Jersey production is about 10,000 tons a year.
>>At least two other states in the US of A produce more eggplant
>>than that.
>
>
> See "The Great Garden State Eggplant Myth" from New Jersey Monthly:
>
> http://www.njmonthly.com/issues/Apr03/gv.html

"As the eggplant crop goes, we're fourth in the nation, having
contributed sixteen million pounds in 2001."

That's 8000 short tons, close to my estimate above of 10,000 tons.
That's only 0.1% of total world production.

Charles Bishop

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In article <Xns95688625EDB8...@nieveler.org>, Juergen
Nieveler <juergen.nie...@arcor.de> wrote:

>JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net> wrote:
>

>
>> An employee of the Alabama Department of Transportation installed
>> spyware on his boss's computer and proved that the boss spent 10% of
>> his time working (20% of time checking stocks and 70% of the time
>> playing solitaire). The employee was fired, the boss kept his job.
>
>Actual fact, was discussed in a privacy-group recently. And yes, it was
>right to fire him, and it was also right not to fire his boss over
>evidence aquired illegaly...

Just to take one comment out of many. Has the "evidence" been acquired
illegally, since a private citizen obtained it? My understanding is that
if a LEO had done so, it would have been illegal.

If a burglar finds a meth lab, is it legal evidence? Could he trade his
info for a lessened sentence?

charles

Charles Bishop

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Sep 18, 2004, 7:08:29 PM9/18/04
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In article <xsV2d.4576$Qv5...@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>, "Charles Wm.
Dimmick" <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:

>JoAnne Schmitz wrote:
>
>> If you disassembled the Great Pyramid of Cheops, you would get enough
stones to
>> encircle the earth with a brick wall twenty inches high.
>
>Just for the heck of it, I did the math on this one. The volume of the
>great pyramid is 158,345,946,250 cu. in. The circumference of the earth
>at the equator is approximately 1,583,460,000 inches, an amazing
>coincidence. So, if the pyramid were completely solid [which it isn't]
>and if you cut up all the stones into stone bricks measuring 2 inches
>high and 2.5 inches wide [and any convenient length], and had some way
>of laying brick along ocean bottoms, you could indeed build a wall 20
>inches high and 5 inches wide completely around the earth.

How much error is introduced by not floating the bricks on the top of the
ocean, but having to deal with the additional length that depth (and hills
and mountains) makes necessary?

chrles

David Winsemius

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JoAnne Schmitz wrote in news:cifmg...@drn.newsguy.com:

> http://funny2.com/facts.htm
>
> Somewhat different from the usual "funny facts" but it includes some
> of our favorites including the one about flass glowing:
>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
>
> Physicists have already performed a simple type of teleportation,
> transferring the quantum characteristics of one atom onto another atom
> at a different location.
>
Ridiculous. My guess is that this is a hash of the Aspect experiment that
showed that the EPR paradox was experimentally "wrong". In the early
1930's Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen attempted to disprove quantum
mechanics by appealing to a thought experiment that used relativistic
limits to the "connectedness" of entangled states.

> At General Motors, the cost of health care for employees now exceeds
> the cost of steel.
>

Probably has been true for a long time. Steel costs rose to $US 250/ton.
There is probably a ton(L) of steel in a car. If only 5% of a car's cost
is from health care, the ratio would be 2:1 in favor of health care.
>
> In 2004, one in six girls in the United States enter puberty at age 8.
> A hundred years ago, only one in a hundred entered puberty that early.
>
Believe we have discussed this unfactoid here before and proven it false.

> The leading cause of on-the-job deaths in workplaces in America is
> homicide.
>

Wrong, and it interesting to speculate on political motivations that
might perpetuate such a belief.

> The thong accounts for 25% of the United States women's underwear
> market.
>
Come on.


>
> More people in the United States die during the first week of the
> month than during the last, an increase that may be a result of the
> abuse of substances purchased with benefit checks that come at the
> beginning of each month.
>

Duh. The last week of the month usually has about 2-3 days in it. Another
dubious and politically motivated piece of junk.

>
> Pain is measured in units of "dols". The instrument used to measure
> pain is a "dolorimeter".

This is apparently limited to certain unnamed areas of health care
practice.


> Each frame of the Lord of the Rings trilogy requires 12.5 mb in
> storage. Filmed at 24 frames per second, that amounts to more than 3
> million megabytes (3 petabytes) per episode.

Er, this one seems to be on tera inferma.
>
> Astronauts cannot burp in space. There is no gravity to separate
> liquid from gas in their stomachs.

So how does the rectum do it?


>
> Every megabyte sent over the Internet takes two lumps of coal to
> power.

Similar to various unfactual statements about th eimpact of computing on
energy use.


>
> Plate glass is actually a very thick liquid.

Well, they seem to have toned it down a bit.
>
> The winter of 1932 was so cold that Niagara Falls froze completely
> solid.
>
I guess it isn't impossible but seems unlikely.
>
> An average of 100 people choke to death on ball point pens each year.
>
Come on.

> Maine has no poisonous snakes.

Some sites say Maine, Hawaii, and Alaska.
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/travel/diseases/snakes_and_snake_bites.htm
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/reprint/347/5/347.pdf

"Of the approximately 120 species of snakes indigenous
to the United States, approximately 20 are venomous.
All are pit vipers (rattlesnakes, cottonmouths,
and copperheads), with the exception of the coral
snake, the only other native venomous snake (Fig. 1).
At least one species of venomous snake has been identified
in every state except Alaska, Maine, and Hawaii.[2]"

2. Parrish HM. Incidence of treated snakebites in the United States.
Public Health Rep 1966;81:269-76.

> On a Canadian two dollar bill, the flag flying over the Parliament
> building is an American flag.

We did this one, I think.
>
> A snail can have about 25,000 teeth.

Charles? You're the expert on invertebrate anatomy.
>
> A snail can also sleep for three years.

Come on. Snails sleep? Who applied electroencephalograms to snails?

> Moisture, not air, causes super glue to dry.

Wrong catalyst for "super glue". This refers to polyurethane glues, aka
"Gorilla glue". Neither glue dries as such. They polymerize.

>
> The arteries and veins surrounding the brain stem called the "circle
> of Willis" looks like a stick person with a large head.
>
Only to a person with a serious perceptual distortion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_Willis
And the Circle of Willis, which really only refers to arteries, does not
surround the brainstem. It lies below it.
>
> Coca-Cola was originally green.

Is this true? Just curious.


David "The Arachnid of Accuracy" Winsemius

Stephen X. Carter

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Sep 19, 2004, 3:19:47 AM9/19/04
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:43:13 GMT, David Winsemius
<dwin$emiu$@fnord.comcast.net> wrote:

>JoAnne Schmitz wrote in news:cifmg...@drn.newsguy.com:
>
>> http://funny2.com/facts.htm
>>
>> Somewhat different from the usual "funny facts" but it includes some
>> of our favorites including the one about flass glowing:
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---------
>>
>> Physicists have already performed a simple type of teleportation,
>> transferring the quantum characteristics of one atom onto another atom
>> at a different location.
>>
>Ridiculous. My guess is that this is a hash of the Aspect experiment that
>showed that the EPR paradox was experimentally "wrong". In the early
>1930's Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen attempted to disprove quantum
>mechanics by appealing to a thought experiment that used relativistic
>limits to the "connectedness" of entangled states.

Does this help?


http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992419

--
st...@stephencarterNOSPAM.net
Nothing is Beatle Proof!!

Staffan S

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Sep 19, 2004, 3:25:46 AM9/19/04
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"JoAnne Schmitz" <jsch...@qis.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:k2rok0l7bq0706git...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:39:39 GMT, "Staffan S"
> <qswitch2....@passagen.se> wrote:
>
> >> The leading cause of on-the-job deaths in workplaces in America is
> >homicide.
> >
> >I would have thought that traffic accidents would be a bigger cause.
>
> *In* workplaces?

You're right, I read that as "on the job".

O J

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On 17 Sep, JoAnne Schmitz wrote:

---------------------<snip>----------------------


>The winter of 1932 was so cold that Niagara Falls froze completely solid.

---------------------<snip>----------------------

The real question is, "Does the falls ever freeze solid?" The answer
is apparently yes and no. 1932 doesn't appear to be mentioned in any
special way, although 1848 is. From
http://www.niagarafallslive.com/Facts_about_Niagara_Falls.htm we read:

>Do the Falls Freeze over in the Winter?
>
>Yes and No...... We'll try to explain
>
>The tremendous volume of water never stops flowing, However, the falling
>water and mist create ice formations along the banks of the falls and river.
>This can result in mounds of ice as thick as fifty feet. If the Winter is cold for
>long enough, the ice will completely stretch across the river and form what
>is known as the "ice bridge". This ice bridge can extend for several miles
>down river until it reaches the area known as the lower rapids.
>
>Until 1912,visitors were allowed to actually walk out on the ice bridge and
>view the Falls from below. February 24th of 1888 the local newspaper
>reported that at least 20,000 people watched or tobogganed on the ice.
>Shanties selling liquor, photographs and curiosities abounded. On February
>4th 1912 the ice bridge broke up and three tourists lives were lost.
>
>There can also be a great deal of "mini-icebergs" which flow down the
>Niagara River from frozen Lake Erie. The flow of ice has been reduced
>considerably by the yearly installation of the "ice-boom" on Lake Erie. The
>ice-boom is a long floating chain (2miles- 3.2 KM) of steel floats strung across
>the Niagara River from Buffalo New York to Fort Erie Ontario.
>It is set in place during the month of December and removed during the
>month of March or April. It is maintained by the New York State Power
> Authority. The ice boom helps prevent the ice from clogging the river and most
> importantly the hydroelectric companies water intakes.
>
>HOWEVER.... The flow of water was stopped completely over both falls
>on March 29th 1848 due to an ice jam in the upper river for several hours. This
>is the only known time to have occurred. The Falls did not actually freeze
>over, but the flow was stopped to the point where people actually walked out
>and recovered artifacts from the riverbed!

Regards,
O J "I found the end of the rainbow at Niagara Falls. Literally!"
Gritmon

Staffan S

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Sep 19, 2004, 3:37:10 AM9/19/04
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"Bob Ward" <bob...@email.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:027pk0ha9gglg35f5...@4ax.com...

The original statement said "people", not "people on wellfare". Unless it
can be shown that this is the case, and that the deaths can somehow be
connected to "abuse of substances", the connection is very weak. If one
thing happens after the other, it does't mean that one is the cause of the
other.

Staffan S


Staffan S

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"JoAnne Schmitz" <jsch...@qis.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:cifmg...@drn.newsguy.com...
> http://funny2.com/facts.htm
>

>
> According to Genesis 1:20-22 the chicken came before the egg.
>

That is a matter of interpretation. The relevant verses are:

20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures,
and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens."
21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that
moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every
winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the
waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth."

You can read this as proof that birds (including chickens) were created
first and that they then mutiplied (laid eggs).

Another interpretation is that the creation would have to be a complete
echosystem. At least some plants would have to be created fully grown, and
at least some with fruits and seeds already on them, or else the animals
that fed on those parts of the plants would have nothing to eat. If the
plants were created in different stages of their life cycles, it is at
least possible that animals were also.

The Omphalos propositin takes this a step further. It states that the
universe was created with the appearance of age. Thus, the light from
distant stars was created *as if* it had travelled for thousands of years
to reach the Earth. Life on Earth would contain animals and plants in
different parts of their life cycles, including eggs and fully grown
chickens.

In the two latter interpretations eggs might have been created at the same
time as or a very short time before the chickens.

Staffan Sjoberg

Staffan S

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"Staffan S" <qswitch2....@passagen.se> skrev i meddelandet
news:_va3d.103678$dP1.3...@newsc.telia.net...

>
> "JoAnne Schmitz" <jsch...@qis.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:k2rok0l7bq0706git...@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:39:39 GMT, "Staffan S"
> > <qswitch2....@passagen.se> wrote:
> >
> > >> The leading cause of on-the-job deaths in workplaces in America is
> > >homicide.
> > >
> > >I would have thought that traffic accidents would be a bigger cause.
> >
> > *In* workplaces?
>
> You're right, I read that as "on the job".
>

I came to think of that, to many people traffic *is* the workplace.
Drivers, road construction workers and highway police all work in traffic,
so my original objection still holds. Unless, of course, I'm missing some
fine point of the English language here, like maybe "in the worlplace" can
only refer to somewhere indoors.

Staffan S


Richard Fitzpatrick

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Sep 19, 2004, 5:44:03 AM9/19/04
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Charles Wm. Dimmick wrote...

> Ben Zimmer wrote:
> > "Charles Wm. Dimmick" wrote:
> >>Crashj wrote:
> >>>On 17 Sep 2004 14:55:18 -0700, JoAnne Schmitz wrote:
> >>
> >>>>Two-thirds of the world's eggplant is grown in New Jersey.
> >>>
> >>>What, the rest of it hangs out in New York?
> >>
> >>Figures I have seen indicate that Asia accounts for 78% of
> >>world eggplant production. I know darn well that New Jersey
> >>is not the world leader in eggplant production. Turkey
> >>produces more than New Jersey. Turkey's annual production is
> >>about 19% of total world production. I can't immediately lay
> >>my hands on New Jersey production figures, but world production
> >>of eggplant is between 8 and 9 million tons a year. I suspect
> >>that total New Jersey production is about 10,000 tons a year.
> >>At least two other states in the US of A produce more eggplant
> >>than that.
> >
> > See "The Great Garden State Eggplant Myth" from New Jersey Monthly:
> > http://www.njmonthly.com/issues/Apr03/gv.html
>
> "As the eggplant crop goes, we're fourth in the nation, having
> contributed sixteen million pounds in 2001."
>
> That's 8000 short tons, close to my estimate above of 10,000 tons.
> That's only 0.1% of total world production.

Excellent sleuthing and analysis, thanks Charles. I wonder if they meant
"[T]wo-thirds of the world's eggplant is *eaten* in New Jersey"?

Nah... I'd say 50% at most.

--
Richard F.
"...if you keep my mouth sufficiently full, I can't offer any
lines of argument" - Deborah Stevenson gives sound debating
advice in a.f.u.


R H Draney

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Sep 19, 2004, 5:31:16 AM9/19/04
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Juergen Nieveler filted:

>
>R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>>>> The chicken is one of the few things that man eats before it's born
>>>> and after it's dead.
>>>
>>>Fish is another example
>>
>> I'm trying to think of anything we eat in between those times....
>
>Oysters. No, I haven't eaten any of those so far, and I'm not intending
>to do :-)

At this point I'm kind of surprised nobody has mentioned monkey brains....r

jp

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>The Swedish pop group ABBA recently turned down an offer of $2 billion to
>reunite.
>
>
http://www.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/News/02/02/showbuzz/#story3
Says the number was $1 billion.

Louise Bremner

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I was kinda grateful....

________________________________________________________________________
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Par Leijonhufvud

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Sep 19, 2004, 7:33:48 AM9/19/04
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David Winsemius <dwin$emiu$@fnord.comcast.net>:

> > A snail can have about 25,000 teeth.
>
> Charles? You're the expert on invertebrate anatomy.

I'm not Charles, but there is a large number of teeth on the radula.

Par

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Michael Baugh

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Hmmm, http://www.saburchill.com/chapters/chap0015.html
says 20,000
I guess that's "about 25,000", even though 'about' 5,000 short.

Par Leijonhufvud <use...@hunter-gatherer.org> wrote in message
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Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Sep 19, 2004, 8:36:45 AM9/19/04
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David Winsemius wrote:

> JoAnne Schmitz wrote in news:cifmg...@drn.newsguy.com:

>>The winter of 1932 was so cold that Niagara Falls froze completely


>>solid.
>
> I guess it isn't impossible but seems unlikely.
>

http://www.niagarafallslive.com/Facts_about_Niagara_Falls.htm


"The tremendous volume of water never stops flowing, However,
the falling water and mist create ice formations along the
banks of the falls and river. This can result in mounds of
ice as thick as fifty feet."

>>A snail can have about 25,000 teeth.


>
> Charles? You're the expert on invertebrate anatomy.

The snail radula, located on what would be called the "tongue"
on any normal creature, contains anywhere between one and
20,000 "teeth". For venemous snails, such as the cone snails,
there are only a few "teeth", which are used to stab their
victims. For ordinary pond snails, such as _Physa_, there
are many many "teeth", which are used as a sort of file to
grind away plant material. I once did a study to determine
whether the teeth on one species of _Physa_ living on both
sides of the lower Mississippi showed enough variation to be
used as a means of distinguishing various subspecies. I
I forget how that worked out, as it was just a research paper
for a graduate course 40 years ago. Wait, I just remembered
one fact: it turned out to be easier to distinguish various
sub-species by variations in their male reproductive organ
[_Physa_ individuals have both male and female organs],
which was located just behind their left ear.
Dental formula on radula was 120-130 rows of teeth, with
about 50-60 teeth per row.

>>A snail can also sleep for three years.
>
> Come on. Snails sleep? Who applied electroencephalograms to snails?

Snails hibernate. Some desert snails also aestivate. If
conditions are especially adverse, some desert snails can
aestivate for two years.

David Winsemius

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Stephen X. Carter wrote in news:414d32ee.2565151@localhost:

> On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:43:13 GMT, David Winsemius
> <dwin$emiu$@fnord.comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>JoAnne Schmitz wrote in news:cifmg...@drn.newsguy.com:
>>
>>> http://funny2.com/facts.htm
>>>

>>> Physicists have already performed a simple type of teleportation,


>>> transferring the quantum characteristics of one atom onto another
>>> atom at a different location.
>>>
>>Ridiculous. My guess is that this is a hash of the Aspect experiment
>>that showed that the EPR paradox was experimentally "wrong". In the
>>early 1930's Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen attempted to disprove
>>quantum mechanics by appealing to a thought experiment that used
>>relativistic limits to the "connectedness" of entangled states.
>
> Does this help?
>
> http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992419
>

It does confirm that another person (you) thinks that quantum
entanglement and "teleportation" in the same context might be a nidus for
this statement. Big deal. Someone repeats Aspect's experiment on
entangled photons (old news) and re-labels it "teleportation". Self
promotion rides the wave of science fiction.

The newsblurb does not support the statement, anyway. As you read that
New Scientist article, did you not notice that the word "atom" appears
just before the phrase "could be perfected within the next ten years"?
Are you aware of any experimental work doing anything similar with
_atoms_ ?

Perhaps the conflation of photons and atoms could indicate that the
public has finally digested the dual wave-particle nature of both light
and matter and is a success for modern science education. I would be
unconvinced, however. I think it is more likely that someone who really
had no clue about photons morphed it onto "atoms", a concept they had
heard about.

I suppose we could consider the cultural substrate that engenders
misrepresentation of science. Such intellectual distortions are very old
and have a rich history. The discovery of Xrays and cathode rays lead to
all sorts of pseudoscience. Cancer cures are announced weekly. Anybody
remember an extremely famous biologist announcing that angiogenesis
inhibitors were going to cure cancer in 2 years? The price of stock in a
certain company went through the roof five years ago.

I keep hearing people talk as though the interaction of cell phone
"radiation" can be discussed as potentially creating chemical changes in
the brains of users. OK, amplified messages create acoustic energy and
depolarize neurons, but breaking chemical bonds in DNA? The energy of a
microwave photon vs. the energy in a chemical bond? Science education has
a long way to go.

--
David Winsemius.

David Winsemius

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Sep 19, 2004, 12:12:23 PM9/19/04
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Staffan S wrote in news:o_a3d.103680$dP1.3...@newsc.telia.net:

> they then mutiplied

Mutiplication. I like it. "Mutation", "evolution", and "increase in
numbers" comes to mind. Sounds like good verb for ULs. Perhaps we should
also invent nitiplication for what we do here.

Charles Bishop

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In article <Xns956984719A4E...@nieveler.org>, Juergen
Nieveler <juergen.nie...@arcor.de> wrote:

>ctbi...@earthlink.netttt (Charles Bishop) wrote:
>
>> Just to take one comment out of many. Has the "evidence" been acquired
>> illegally, since a private citizen obtained it? My understanding is that
>> if a LEO had done so, it would have been illegal.
>

>It was acquired without legal permission to do so

Yes, but doesn't illegal search and seizure apply only to LEO's? Say I
burgle a place and come out with evidence of a previous crime(a handgun).
I'm busted for the crime and the police find the gun, and evidence
corroborating that I got it elsewhere, in my place. They have obtained
this legally, and since I wasn't attached to LEOs when I got it, they can
use the evidence for the previous crime.


>
>> If a burglar finds a meth lab, is it legal evidence? Could he trade his
>> info for a lessened sentence?
>

>Depends on the judge - one could call it a "chance discovery", and the
>judge MIGHT be inclined to agree to a lesser sentence. Evidence that is
>discovered by accident usually can be used in court. However, evidence
>discovered by illegal wiretaps (including spyware, but IANAL...) cannot
>be used.

Sure, but I wasn't arguing for illegal wiretaps, only that if the police
come across evidence of a crime by non-illegal means, they can use the
evidence.

charles

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Staffan S

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"Staffan S" <qswitch2....@passagen.se> skrev i meddelandet
news:e7c3d.3598$d5.2...@newsb.telia.net...

Just talking to myself.....

The National Safety Council says at
http://www.nsc.org/library/report_injury_usa.htm that in 2002, "Motor
vehicle crashes accounted for 2,100 of the 4,900 workplace fatalities. "
Homicide is'nt even mentioned on that page. On
http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm , however, they state that 20,308
deaths in 2001 were from "Assault" (which I interpret as including
manslaughter). All external causes of mortality (injury) totaled 160,099
deaths.


Staffan Sjoberg


Staffan S

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Sep 19, 2004, 1:21:25 PM9/19/04
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"JoAnne Schmitz" <jsch...@qis.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:k2rok0l7bq0706git...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:39:39 GMT, "Staffan S"
> <qswitch2....@passagen.se> wrote:
>
> >> The leading cause of on-the-job deaths in workplaces in America is
> >homicide.
> >
> >I would have thought that traffic accidents would be a bigger cause.
>
> *In* workplaces?
>
> >> More people in the United States die during the first week of the
month
> >than
> >> during the last, an increase that may be a result of the abuse of
> >substances
> >> purchased with benefit checks that come at the beginning of each
month.
> >
> >"...may be..." translates as "we guess". As far as I know most working
> >people have their salaries paid at the end at the month.
>
> Not in the U.S. -- generally we get paid weekly or every other week.
>
> JoAnne "very weakly, har de har har" Schmitz
>
That's a week joke!

Staffan "just couldn't" Sjoberg


Staffan S

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Sep 19, 2004, 1:38:01 PM9/19/04
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"JoAnne Schmitz" <jsch...@qis.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:k2rok0l7bq0706git...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:39:39 GMT, "Staffan S"
> <qswitch2....@passagen.se> wrote:
>
> >> The leading cause of on-the-job deaths in workplaces in America is
> >homicide.
> >
> >I would have thought that traffic accidents would be a bigger cause.
>
> *In* workplaces?
>
> >> More people in the United States die during the first week of the
month
> >than
> >> during the last, an increase that may be a result of the abuse of
> >substances
> >> purchased with benefit checks that come at the beginning of each
month.
> >
> >"...may be..." translates as "we guess". As far as I know most working
> >people have their salaries paid at the end at the month.
>
> Not in the U.S. -- generally we get paid weekly or every other week.
>

There might be something to the claim: The New England Journal of Medicine
has published the paper "An Increase in the Number of Deaths in the United
States in the First Week of the Month - An Association with Substance
Abuse and Other Causes of Death" by David P. Phillips, Ph.D., Nicholas
Christenfeld, Ph.D., and Natalie M. Ryan, B.A.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/341/2/93#related_letters where
the authors have found this association.


Staffan Sjoberg


Karen J. Cravens

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Sep 19, 2004, 1:57:17 PM9/19/04
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begin ctbi...@earthlink.netttt (Charles Bishop) quotation from
news:ctbishop-190...@user-2ivfnca.dialup.mindspring.com:

> Sure, but I wasn't arguing for illegal wiretaps, only that if the
> police come across evidence of a crime by non-illegal means, they can
> use the evidence.

And "illegal wiretaps" vary from state to state, too. You call me in
Kansas, I can record the call without telling you (and a third party can
record the call as long as they tell *me*). That's not always so
elsewhere, and I don't know if it covers screen capturing here, nor what
*any* of the laws were in the jurisdiction in question.

--
Karen J. Cravens


David Winsemius

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Sep 19, 2004, 2:44:13 PM9/19/04
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Staffan S wrote in news:e7c3d.3598$d5.2...@newsb.telia.net:

Nah. You're not confused. The "going postal" myth is just alive,
mutating, and kicking as its DNA breaks and reconnects with other
protoblather.

It was the third leading cause in US workers:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00024907.htm

It used to be second, behind occupational vehicular fatalities:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cfoi.pdf

Even among postal workers homicide ranks below vehicular fatalities:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/wk/mm4332.pdf

--
David Winsemius.

TeaLady (Mari C.)

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Sep 19, 2004, 10:16:52 PM9/19/04
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Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nie...@arcor.de> wrote in
news:Xns95688625EDB8...@nieveler.org:

>
>> The State of Florida is bigger than England.
>
> But is it bigger than Great Britain?
>
>

Ohio is larger than Ireland.

--
TeaLady (mari)

"Indeed, literary analysis will be a serious undertaking only
when it adopts the mindset of quantum physics and regards the
observer as part of the experiment."
Flame of the West on litcrit

Stephen X. Carter

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Sep 20, 2004, 6:33:56 AM9/20/04
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:06:14 GMT, David Winsemius
<dwin$emiu$@fnord.comcast.net> wrote:

>Stephen X. Carter wrote in news:414d32ee.2565151@localhost:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:43:13 GMT, David Winsemius
>> <dwin$emiu$@fnord.comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>JoAnne Schmitz wrote in news:cifmg...@drn.newsguy.com:
>>>
>>>> http://funny2.com/facts.htm
>>>>
>
>>>> Physicists have already performed a simple type of teleportation,
>>>> transferring the quantum characteristics of one atom onto another
>>>> atom at a different location.
>>>>
>>>Ridiculous. My guess is that this is a hash of the Aspect experiment
>>>that showed that the EPR paradox was experimentally "wrong". In the
>>>early 1930's Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen attempted to disprove
>>>quantum mechanics by appealing to a thought experiment that used
>>>relativistic limits to the "connectedness" of entangled states.
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>> http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992419
>>
>It does confirm that another person (you) thinks that quantum
>entanglement and "teleportation" in the same context might be a nidus for
>this statement. Big deal. Someone repeats Aspect's experiment on
>entangled photons (old news) and re-labels it "teleportation". Self
>promotion rides the wave of science fiction.

Would a reference in Nature help?

David Winsemius

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Sep 20, 2004, 8:34:04 AM9/20/04
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Stephen X. Carter wrote in news:414eb1fd.25908443@localhost:

Are there any experiments where the quantum state of one atom has been
transferred to another atom?

--
David Winsemius

Stephen X. Carter

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Sep 20, 2004, 9:45:51 AM9/20/04
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:34:04 GMT, David Winsemius
<dwin$emiu$@fnord.comcast.net> wrote:

>Stephen X. Carter wrote in news:414eb1fd.25908443@localhost:

>>
>> Would a reference in Nature help?
>>
>
>Are there any experiments where the quantum state of one atom has been
>transferred to another atom?

I don't know - that's why I was asking if a (presumably)
refereed article from Nature would help.....

Norm Preston

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Sep 20, 2004, 2:01:40 PM9/20/04
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"Ragnar" <rwo...@kornet.net> wrote in message news:<cig04h$jm6$1...@news1.kornet.net>...
>
> > Americans take an average of just ten days per year vacation. In France,
> the law
> > guarantees everyone five weeks of vacation, and most full-time workers get
> two
> > full months vacation.
>
> Which is why productivity in France is so low compared to the US.
>

Productivity in France is not low at all. According the US Department
of Labor's comparative statistics, French manufacturing output per
hour per person is about 98% of that in the US. In some other
statistics I have seen, it is actually higher.

I think the French made the right decision to take more time off, to
enjoy life and to drink more wine.

Norm

Marc Reeve

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Sep 20, 2004, 4:36:53 PM9/20/04
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Don Del Grande wrote:
> JoAnne Schmitz wrote:
>
>>The first Fords had engines made by Dodge.

Well, they were contracted out to Dodge Brothers, who made them to Henry's
specs. (This was before the Dodge Brothers were selling their own cars.)

Heck, the first Cadillac was designed by Henry Ford, but used an engine
designed by Henry Leland (Ford's engine design was no good.) And Louis
Chevrolet got his start as a driver for Ford's racing team.
>
> The earliest Ford Probes had engines made by Mazda. (I bought one in
> mid-1988.)
>
Engines, how about the whole car? The Probe was a rebadged MX-6 (which was the
"sporty coupe" version of the pedestrian 626.).

Marc "don't get me started, i'll get cranky" Reeve
--
Marc Reeve nam...@oizurc.com
Some guy at a desk somewhere ^reverse^ for email

Ray Heindl

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karo...@yahoo.com (Norm Preston) wrote:

> "Ragnar" <rwo...@kornet.net> wrote


>>
>> > Americans take an average of just ten days per year vacation.
>> > In France, the law
>> > guarantees everyone five weeks of vacation, and most full-time
>> > workers get two
>> > full months vacation.
>>
>> Which is why productivity in France is so low compared to the US.
>>
>
> Productivity in France is not low at all. According the US
> Department of Labor's comparative statistics, French manufacturing
> output per hour per person is about 98% of that in the US. In some
> other statistics I have seen, it is actually higher.

But if the French only work 47 weeks per year, at 35 hours per week, if
my brain can be trusted, versus 50 weeks per year at 40 hours per week,
their annual output per worker will be only 80% of that in the US.

> I think the French made the right decision to take more time off,
> to enjoy life and to drink more wine.

I think so too.

--
Ray "Hand me that corkscrew" Heindl
(remove the Xs to reply to: xvortr...@yaxhoo.com)

James Linn

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Sep 20, 2004, 5:33:47 PM9/20/04
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Charles Bishop wrote:
> In article <Xns956984719A4E...@nieveler.org>, Juergen
> Nieveler <juergen.nie...@arcor.de> wrote:
>
>
>>ctbi...@earthlink.netttt (Charles Bishop) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Just to take one comment out of many. Has the "evidence" been acquired
>>>illegally, since a private citizen obtained it? My understanding is that
>>>if a LEO had done so, it would have been illegal.
>>
>>It was acquired without legal permission to do so

That might not be the pretext for firing the person.

In some companiesI've worked for any use of monitoring/sniffing/logging
software other than by designated security persons(acting in accordance
with procedures and policies set by HR) is grounds for dismissal. It
was a policy instituted a long time ago, and every employee has read the
policy and signed it. Its part of the larger computer usage policy. I'd
be suprised if my company was the only one with such policies.

James "was once one of the authorised persons" Linn

Stephen X. Carter

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Sep 20, 2004, 6:27:20 PM9/20/04
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:34:04 GMT, David Winsemius
<dwin$emiu$@fnord.comcast.net> wrote:

I am now told that the answer to the above question is....
YES.

Since my informant is a Professor of Physics of some repute,
and you are not, this correspondence is now closed.

Goodbye.

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Sep 20, 2004, 7:10:16 PM9/20/04
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JoAnne Schmitz wrote:

> In her later years, Florence Nightingale kept a pet owl in her pocket.

Florence Nighingale had two pet owls. One died when she left for
the Crimea, either of a broken heart, or because it was accidentally
left behind and starved in an attic. This is the owl she is reported
to have carried around in her pocket _before_ leaving for the Crimea.
I have not found evidence that she ever carried the replacement
around in her pocket in her later years.

"Woodham Smith has a picture of Florence Nightingale and "Her Tame Owl
Athena, circa 1850 After a drawing by Parthenope Lady Verney". This
would be the same year she travelled down the Nile River with the
Bracebridges and first got the owl. Also according to Woodham Smith,
British soldiers gave her another owl while she convalesced after her
sickness in the Crimea and she was given a silver statue of an owl by
another admirer. "
See also:
http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/nwh_gfx_en/ART23327.html

> Human teeth are almost as hard as rocks.

Need to define terms. Human teeth are made of Calcium phosphate,
the mineral apatite. Apatite has a hardness of 5 on the Mohs
scale of hardness. An ordinary pocket knife has a hardness of
5.1, glass is 5.5; granite is mostly feldspar, with hardness
6, and lesser amounts of quartz, hardness 7. The scale is not
linear, and hardness 6 is about 1.5 times harder than hardness 5.
In absolute terms, with talc hardness 1, apatite would be about
48, feldspar about 72, and quartz about 100.

> Until 1796, there was a state in the United States called Franklin. Today it is
> known as Tennessee.

Not quite right. Among other things, Franklin was only the
northeast part of Tennessee. More importantly, Franklin was
never recognized by the Federal Government as a state. It
existed from 1784 to 1788 with its own elected government,
but in a sense was still part of North Carolina. North
Carolina originally claimed land as far west as the Mississsippi
River, the present western boundary of Tennessee, and the "state"
of Franklin also claimed a western boundary at the Mississippi,
but de facto only had settlers in the northeastern part of
the "state", centered on Jonesboro and Greenville.

http://www.ls.net/~newriver/nc/wnc6.htm

Don Freeman

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Sep 20, 2004, 7:45:12 PM9/20/04
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"Stephen X. Carter" <steve@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:414f58e7.1168789@localhost...

> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:34:04 GMT, David Winsemius
> >
> >Are there any experiments where the quantum state of one atom has been
> >transferred to another atom?
>
> I am now told that the answer to the above question is....
> YES.
>
> Since my informant is a Professor of Physics of some repute,
> and you are not, this correspondence is now closed.
>
Well, I don't know about you but that certainly clinches it for me.


Norm Soley

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Sep 20, 2004, 8:15:49 PM9/20/04
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Marc Reeve <ma...@nospam.calm> wrote in
news:gJednQyDIvm...@got.net:

> Don Del Grande wrote:
>> JoAnne Schmitz wrote:
>>
>>>The first Fords had engines made by Dodge.
>
> Well, they were contracted out to Dodge Brothers, who made them to
> Henry's specs. (This was before the Dodge Brothers were selling their
> own cars.)
>
> Heck, the first Cadillac was designed by Henry Ford, but used an
> engine designed by Henry Leland (Ford's engine design was no good.)
> And Louis Chevrolet got his start as a driver for Ford's racing team.

My dad has, among other junk, several examples of the water pump wrench
that came with a model T. In Canada these were marked with the Ford name
but also bore the name of the wrench's maker, Mclaughlin. Mclaughlin was
the company that eventually became GM Canada.


>> The earliest Ford Probes had engines made by Mazda. (I bought one in
>> mid-1988.)
>>
> Engines, how about the whole car? The Probe was a rebadged MX-6 (which
> was the "sporty coupe" version of the pedestrian 626.).

That was later, the MX-6 was launched in model year 1993 along with
redesigns of the 626 and Probe. Actually the Probe was more than
rebadged, all three cars shared the same drivetrain but had completely
different coachwork. All were built in the Ford/Mazda Alliance plant in
Flat Rock, Michigan. If memory serves the original pre 93 Probe also
shared a drive train with the 626. The pre-1993 626 was a very
pedestrian sedan the redesigned one much less so.

Lon

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Sep 20, 2004, 8:40:01 PM9/20/04
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Marc Reeve proclaimed:

> Don Del Grande wrote:
>
>> JoAnne Schmitz wrote:
>>
>>> The first Fords had engines made by Dodge.
>
>
> Well, they were contracted out to Dodge Brothers, who made them to
> Henry's specs. (This was before the Dodge Brothers were selling their
> own cars.)
>
> Heck, the first Cadillac was designed by Henry Ford, but used an engine
> designed by Henry Leland (Ford's engine design was no good.) And Louis
> Chevrolet got his start as a driver for Ford's racing team.
>
>>
>> The earliest Ford Probes had engines made by Mazda. (I bought one in
>> mid-1988.)
>>
> Engines, how about the whole car? The Probe was a rebadged MX-6 (which
> was the "sporty coupe" version of the pedestrian 626.).

I believe you may have mispletted "rebadged *and* rebodied" there.
The two vehicles had pretty much nothing in common in the bodywork.
The MX-6 and MX-6 GT were still rather boxy looking, whereas the
Probe was somewhat aptly yclept.

Paul Tomblin

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Sep 20, 2004, 9:02:32 PM9/20/04
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In a previous article, Norm Soley <nso...@ca.ocitapmysbackwards> said:
>that came with a model T. In Canada these were marked with the Ford name
>but also bore the name of the wrench's maker, Mclaughlin. Mclaughlin was
>the company that eventually became GM Canada.

I think Mclaughlin became part of Buick before Buick became part of GM.
At least, that's what they told me when I was on a bike ride up at the
Champlain Lookout in Gatineau Park in the mid 1980s when the whole
Canadian Buick Club showed up, lead by Sam Mclaughlin's grandson or
great-nephew or something.


--
Paul Tomblin <ptom...@xcski.com> http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
I think it's a beautiful day to go to the zoo and feed the ducks.
To the lions.
-- Brian Kantor

Paul Tomblin

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Sep 20, 2004, 9:04:17 PM9/20/04
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In a previous article, bluemeanie@[127.0.0.1] said:
>Since my informant is a Professor of Physics of some repute,
>and you are not, this correspondence is now closed.

As long as it's not that fraud Professor Robinson.

"Pilots are reminded to ensure that all surly bonds are slipped before
attempting taxi or take-off"

David Winsemius

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Sep 20, 2004, 10:32:26 PM9/20/04
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Stephen X. Carter wrote in news:414f58e7.1168789@localhost:

I believe this makes you a FOAPh. Why should you not want to disclose the
identity or the just the citations of this reputed physicist?

Ask your friendly physiker for a citation. Shouldn't be that hard (if
one exists). I really am interested in the physics, even if I think the
use of the verb "teleport" in the context of discussing entangled quantum
states is media hype.

--
David "hello" Winsemius

David Winsemius

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Sep 20, 2004, 10:52:32 PM9/20/04
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Marc Reeve cranked out:

> Engines, how about the whole car? The Probe was a rebadged MX-6 (which
> was the "sporty coupe" version of the pedestrian 626.).

Hey, what was wrong with the 626? My LX V6 with a 5 speed seemed reasonably
peppy and nimble. A bit noisy at highway speeds, but better acceleration
than any of the Toyota/Datsuns I owned.

--
David Winsemius.

Ernie Wright

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Sep 21, 2004, 12:06:58 AM9/21/04
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David Winsemius wrote:

> Ask your friendly physiker for a citation. Shouldn't be that hard (if
> one exists).

Conversely, it's not at all difficult to find them on one's own.

M. Riebe et al. Nature 429, 734-737 (2004) (calcium ions)
M.D. Barret et al. Nature 429, 737-739 (2004) (beryllium ions)

And see

http://scienceweek.com/2004/sa040827-4.htm

> I really am interested in the physics, even if I think the use of the
> verb "teleport" in the context of discussing entangled quantum states
> is media hype.

I'm having trouble understanding the nature of your objection. Do you
not believe that what they're calling atom quantum teleportation has
been done, or that "teleport" is a bad word to describe it, or what?

- Ernie http://home.comcast.net/~erniew

David Winsemius

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Sep 21, 2004, 8:34:45 AM9/21/04
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Ernie Wright wrote in news:bN-dneQyVaq...@comcast.com:

> David Winsemius wrote:
>
>> Ask your friendly physiker for a citation. Shouldn't be that hard (if
>> one exists).
>
> Conversely, it's not at all difficult to find them on one's own.
>
> M. Riebe et al. Nature 429, 734-737 (2004) (calcium ions)
> M.D. Barret et al. Nature 429, 737-739 (2004) (beryllium ions)

Thanks. I did just find a citation for the second one and was about
to post it. If anyone has a subscription (I don't) to Nature they have
a webpage with links to both and a discussion paper. Neither of these
letters is available at the Nature website:
http://www.nature.com/nature/links/040617/040617-1.html

Riebe's work is described here:
http://heart-c704.uibk.ac.at/RecentResults/Teleportation/QuantumTeleportation.pdf
http://heart-c704.uibk.ac.at/RecentResults/QuantumTeleportationE.html

And the Barrett, et al, letter to Nature:
http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/general/pdf/1926.pdf

The discussion article:
http://heart-c704.uibk.ac.at/Papers/Nature04N+V_Kimble.pdf

> And see
>
> http://scienceweek.com/2004/sa040827-4.htm
>
>> I really am interested in the physics, even if I think the use of the
>> verb "teleport" in the context of discussing entangled quantum states
>> is media hype.
>
> I'm having trouble understanding the nature of your objection. Do you
> not believe that what they're calling atom quantum teleportation has
> been done, or that "teleport" is a bad word to describe it, or what?
>

The second objection, plus the fact that the experiments of which I
was aware involving photons had a very low fidelity, requiring
heavy processing to demonstrate the phenomena. I retract my initial
"ridiculous". I am just out of date, ill read, and excessively
incredulous.

--
David Winsemius

Norm Soley

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Sep 21, 2004, 10:49:09 AM9/21/04
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ptomblin...@xcski.com (Paul Tomblin) wrote in
news:cinuj8$1n5$1...@allhats.xcski.com:

> In a previous article, Norm Soley <nso...@ca.ocitapmysbackwards> said:
>>that came with a model T. In Canada these were marked with the Ford
>>name but also bore the name of the wrench's maker, Mclaughlin.
>>Mclaughlin was the company that eventually became GM Canada.
>
> I think Mclaughlin became part of Buick before Buick became part of
> GM. At least, that's what they told me when I was on a bike ride up at
> the Champlain Lookout in Gatineau Park in the mid 1980s when the whole
> Canadian Buick Club showed up, lead by Sam Mclaughlin's grandson or
> great-nephew or something.

More or less correct, the corporate history is the reason while still
today GM Canada is a separately traded public company from GM now GM is
the majority shareholder of GM Canada so this has little practical
impact. Most Canadian subsiduaries of US firms are, in legal terms,
privately held by the publically traded parent corporation.

Actually we went to school with a direct descendant of Sam, a grand or
great-grand neice. Darned if I can't actually find her name in cache at
this point.

Norm Soley

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Sep 21, 2004, 10:55:00 AM9/21/04
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David Winsemius <dwin$emiu$@fnord.comcast.net> wrote in
news:Xns956AE8B9FF3...@216.148.227.77:

The pre-1993 626 was pretty pedestrian. The redesigned version you (and I
although mine was the ES variant) had was a much sportier car than it's
predessesor which was apprantly highly reliable but boxy and boring.
However there's only so much sportiness one can claim for a 4 door sedan.

O J

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Sep 21, 2004, 11:18:24 AM9/21/04
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On Tue, 21 Sep, Norm Soley wrote:

---------------------<snip>----------------------


>However there's only so much sportiness one can claim for a 4 door sedan.

I think some of the volk at the Bavarian Motor Works would beg to
differ.

Regards,
O J "My other car is a Mercedes" Gritmon

Norm Soley

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Sep 21, 2004, 11:36:23 AM9/21/04
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Lon <lon.s...@comcast.net> wrote in news:BLK3d.19848$wV.4788@attbi_s54:

> I believe you may have mispletted "rebadged *and* rebodied" there.
> The two vehicles had pretty much nothing in common in the bodywork.
> The MX-6 and MX-6 GT were still rather boxy looking, whereas the
> Probe was somewhat aptly yclept.

True for the 1988 vintage the original poster was talking about. Mazda and
Ford did major redesigns for model year 1993 and the resulting MX-6 was a
relatively sporty, 2 door, low slung coupe body. The whole car was a little
too big to be truly sporty but it was a long way from it's boxy
predeccessor. I always thought the original Probe design was butt ugly but
the redesigned one not bad.

Marc Reeve

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Sep 21, 2004, 12:33:16 PM9/21/04
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I was basing my post on a direct visual comparison.

My brother-in-law's MX-6 was frequently mistaken for my next-door neighbor's
Probe when they came to visit. (Oddly enough, both of them were replaced this
year...)

Marc "i can't tell the difference between Pontiacs, Buicks or Oldsmobiles of
similar vintage, either" Reeve

Marc Reeve

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David Winsemius wrote:

Ah, there's the thing. We had the four-cylinder version of the 626 because my
father rarely bought anything but a "base model" vehicle. It also had an
automatic transmission. Thing was a dog.

Marc "now he has a Focus ZX3" Reeve

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Michael Kuettner

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"Staffan S" <qswitch2....@passagen.se> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:o_a3d.103680$dP1.3...@newsc.telia.net...
>
<snip>
> Another interpretation is that the creation would have to be a complete
> echosystem.

Impossible since that interpretation would exclude ducks.

Cheers,

Michael "applying quackery to Usenet" Kuettner


Burroughs Guy

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Sep 21, 2004, 5:52:47 PM9/21/04
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David Winsemius wrote:

> The second objection, plus the fact that the experiments of which I
> was aware involving photons had a very low fidelity, requiring
> heavy processing to demonstrate the phenomena. I retract my initial
> "ridiculous". I am just out of date, ill read, and excessively
> incredulous.

When discussing entangled quantum states, you should be incredulous.
Quantum entanglement isn't science; quantum entanglement isn't even
science fiction. Quantum entangleemnt is seriously whacked out
fantasy that doesn't even obey the laws of comic book physics. The
fact that it's real doesn't change anything. Any good professor would
hand this paper back to God and ask Him to write something more plausible.

--
Burroughs "more things, Horatio, etc" Guy
Vaguer memories available upon request


Chuk Goodin

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Sep 21, 2004, 6:27:00 PM9/21/04
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:43, David Winsemius <dwin$emiu$@fnord.comcast.net> wrote:
>> A snail can also sleep for three years.
>
>Come on. Snails sleep? Who applied electroencephalograms to snails?

A. Schuett, E. Ba-ar and T. H. Bullock, probably among others. Check out
their paper on the web at:
http://cogprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/archive/00000136/00/power-spectra-snails.html

(It's not about sleep, though, but they did set up EEGs for snails.)


--
chuk

Bob Ward

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Sep 21, 2004, 7:39:12 PM9/21/04
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:55:00 GMT, Norm Soley
<nso...@ca.ocitapmysbackwards> wrote:

>
>The pre-1993 626 was pretty pedestrian. The redesigned version you (and I
>although mine was the ES variant) had was a much sportier car than it's
>predessesor which was apprantly highly reliable but boxy and boring.
>However there's only so much sportiness one can claim for a 4 door sedan.


Any car that doesn't run would be pedestrian.


Don Freeman

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Sep 21, 2004, 7:51:55 PM9/21/04
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"Bob Ward" <bob...@email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Any car that doesn't run would be pedestrian.
>
It would at least create some.


Phil

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Sep 21, 2004, 8:00:54 PM9/21/04
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Bob Ward wrote:
>
> Any car that doesn't run would be pedestrian.

Cars got feet?

Phil


Don Freeman

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Sep 21, 2004, 8:02:55 PM9/21/04
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"Phil" <ph...@i.have.all.the.spam.i.need> wrote in message
news:4150...@212.67.96.135...

> Bob Ward wrote:
> >
> > Any car that doesn't run would be pedestrian.
>
> Cars got feet?
>
Mine keeps getting toes.


Daniel W. Johnson

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Sep 21, 2004, 8:05:06 PM9/21/04
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JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net> wrote:

> The New York Jets were unable to find hotel rooms for a game in Indianapolis
> recently because they had all been booked up by people attending a Star Trek
> convention.

Convention: yes
Star Trek: no

http://www.gencon.com/indyhome.aspx?file=indy

(And they did manage to find hotel rooms in the next county.)
--
Daniel W. Johnson
pano...@iquest.net
http://members.iquest.net/~panoptes/
039 53 36 N / 086 11 55 W

TeaLady (Mari C.)

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Sep 21, 2004, 9:21:21 PM9/21/04
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Ray Heindl <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
news:Xns956AB285...@130.133.1.4:

>>karo...@yahoo.com (Norm Preston) wrote:
> >Productivity in France is not low at all. According the US
> >Department of Labor's comparative statistics, French
> >manufacturing output per hour per person is about 98% of
> >that in the US. In some
> other statistics I have seen, it is actually higher.


> But if the French only work 47 weeks per year, at 35 hours
> per week, if my brain can be trusted, versus 50 weeks per
> year at 40 hours per week, their annual output per worker
> will be only 80% of that in the US.
>

Maybe the French work more efficiently - less time doesn't
mean less done - just less time spent doing it.

I bet they don't play as much solitaire at work as USAns do.

--
TeaLady (mari)

"Indeed, literary analysis will be a serious undertaking only
when it adopts the mindset of quantum physics and regards the
observer as part of the experiment."
Flame of the West on litcrit

R H Draney

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Sep 21, 2004, 9:56:29 PM9/21/04
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Mari C. filted:

>
>Maybe the French work more efficiently - less time doesn't
>mean less done - just less time spent doing it.
>
>I bet they don't play as much solitaire at work as USAns do.

You kidding?...they invented it!...the very *word* is French!...

R H "maybe there's just less to do in France" Draney

David Winsemius

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Sep 21, 2004, 10:23:45 PM9/21/04
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Chuk Goodin wrote in news:ciq9rk$md$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca:

Pretty neat. I will admit considerable surprise. Their references cited
quite a few other molluscan based studies.

--
David Winsemius

Lon

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Sep 21, 2004, 10:49:30 PM9/21/04
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Phil proclaimed:

> Bob Ward wrote:
>
>>
>> Any car that doesn't run would be pedestrian.
>
>
> Cars got feet?

...now we'll have to kill him.

Anthony McCafferty

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Sep 22, 2004, 1:13:13 AM9/22/04
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In article <WK54d.344604$8_6.159235@attbi_s04>, Lon <lon.s...@comcast.net>
writes:

>Phil proclaimed:
>
>> Bob Ward wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Any car that doesn't run would be pedestrian.
>>
>>
>> Cars got feet?

Maybe he'll clam up first.

Anthony "taking it to Hart" McCafferty

Donna Richoux

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Sep 22, 2004, 8:23:49 AM9/22/04
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R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:

> Mari C. filted:
> >
> >Maybe the French work more efficiently - less time doesn't
> >mean less done - just less time spent doing it.
> >
> >I bet they don't play as much solitaire at work as USAns do.
>
> You kidding?...they invented it!...the very *word* is French!...

Ah, oui, le Klondique et la Canneville.

--
Donna "les jeux sont fait" Richoux

R H Draney

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Sep 22, 2004, 10:59:37 AM9/22/04
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Donna Richoux filted:

...et l'Espace Libre....r

pra...@comcast.com

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Sep 22, 2004, 11:59:56 AM9/22/04
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"Crashj" <leader00...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> On 17 Sep 2004 14:55:18 -0700, JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net>
> wrote:
> Just for fun comments and trimmage by Crashj:
> >http://funny2.com/facts.htm

> >If the population of China walked past you in single file, the line would
never
> >end because of the rate of reproduction.
> Yeah? How're they gonna screw standing in line?

What else are you gonna do?
-minmei


pra...@comcast.com

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Sep 22, 2004, 12:06:00 PM9/22/04
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"Juergen Nieveler" <juergen.nie...@arcor.de> wrote in message
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> JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net> wrote:
>
>
> > The chicken is one of the few things that man eats before it's born
> > and after it's dead.
>
> Fish is another example
>

Ostrich, duck, what are those tiny litte eggs gourmet cooks like so much, oh
yeah, quail, etc....

-minmei


pra...@comcast.com

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Sep 22, 2004, 12:14:46 PM9/22/04
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"Karen J. Cravens" <silve...@phoenyx.net> wrote in message
> >> Seven percent of Americans claim they never bathe at all.
> >
> > See above...
>
> I expect an even higher percentage of us only bathe once every couple of
> years, or so. I'm one of them.

Personally, I only shower maybe 3-4x a year, and always communally with my
husband, ie there's no way I'm going to get washed in time waiting for the
bath tub so I have to climb in with him in order to get bathed in time.
Usually I stop up the drain and finish up in the tub anyway tho. My family
lived in an old farmhouse and we didn't have a shower till I was 11, and
didn't have a good one till I was 14. I've actually come across ppl that
think tub bathing is gross.
-minmei


pra...@comcast.com

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Sep 22, 2004, 12:24:06 PM9/22/04
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"Staffan S" <qswitch2....@passagen.se> wrote in message
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> >
> > Airport security agents at Logan Airport in Boston, Massachusetts caught
> a
> > passenger trying to sneak a severed seal head onto a plane inside a
> cooler. The
> > man said he was a biology professor and had found the dead animal on the
> beach.
>
> I might be out of touch with the current security measures. Have seal
> heads been reclassified as dangerous objects? Why else the words "caught"
> and "sneak"?
>

I remember seeing a few weeks ago on PBS a special on Forensic Science and
some really famous scientist lady who was also a fiction writer, I didn't
catch it all or I'd be more detailed. Anyway, she said, and it showed her
going through airport security with body parts, in this case a human head,
tho she did have proper permits, etc... she did squick out the lady checking
her through. And yes it was in a cooler.
-minmei

pra...@comcast.com

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Sep 22, 2004, 12:32:57 PM9/22/04
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"JoAnne Schmitz" <jsch...@qis.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:39:39 GMT, "Staffan S"
> <qswitch2....@passagen.se> wrote:
>
> >> The leading cause of on-the-job deaths in workplaces in America is
> >homicide.
> >
> >I would have thought that traffic accidents would be a bigger cause.
>
> *In* workplaces?


If you are a taxi cab driver your workplace is your taxi cab, same goes for
schoolbuses, ripta buses, subways, amtrak, greyhound, space shuttle, so if
you die in the line of duty: could concievably be a traffic accident.

Tho, iirc, some of the most dangerous jobs are commercial fishing,
convienence store clerk, and taxi cab driver (muggings and murder, not
accidents)
minmei


Michael Kuettner

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Sep 22, 2004, 1:46:23 PM9/22/04
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"Burroughs Guy" <BurroughsG...@aol.com.invalid> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag
news:YmFydGljdXM=.fe2108e5b7ac8a29...@1095803567.nulluser.com..
.

> David Winsemius wrote:
>
> > The second objection, plus the fact that the experiments of which I
> > was aware involving photons had a very low fidelity, requiring
> > heavy processing to demonstrate the phenomena. I retract my initial
> > "ridiculous". I am just out of date, ill read, and excessively
> > incredulous.
>
> When discussing entangled quantum states, you should be incredulous.
> Quantum entanglement isn't science; quantum entanglement isn't even
> science fiction. Quantum entangleemnt is seriously whacked out
> fantasy that doesn't even obey the laws of comic book physics. The
> fact that it's real doesn't change anything. Any good professor would
> hand this paper back to God and ask Him to write something more plausible.
>
You're Albert Onestone and I claim my two-fifty (plus taxes).

Cheers,

Michael "alea non iacta est" Kuettner


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