"Ocean Towers LP has hired Controlled Demolition Inc. to raze
itsincomplete condominium tower on South Padre Island, which
is plaguedby 14 in. of differential vertical subsidence between
the post-tensioned, low-rise parking garage attached to the
tower. According to the owner, the tower's weight caused a layer
of expandable clay under an upper sand layer to compress...."
- oh, and now they're going to blow the building up, real good.
(Maybe Adam and Jamie would like to attend?)
http://enr.ecnext.com/coms2/article_bubt090930TexasTowerDe
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words, whose differential horizontal subsidence squeezed spaces out
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14" is annoying but it can be "lived with."
I suspect the main reason "they" want to destroy the building is that were
it completed it would be next to impossible to fill it.
By destroying it they MIGHT get some money back from the bonding companies
and the deep pocket contractors and their insurance companies. If the
place is completed they go broke.
I am certainly impressed.
>
>"danny burstein" <dan...@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.09...@panix5.panix.com...
>> The ground is subsiding, and the tower's not even finished yet...
>>
>> "Ocean Towers LP has hired Controlled Demolition Inc. to raze
>> itsincomplete condominium tower on South Padre Island, which
>> is plaguedby 14 in. of differential vertical subsidence between
>> the post-tensioned, low-rise parking garage attached to the
>> tower. According to the owner, the tower's weight caused a layer
>> of expandable clay under an upper sand layer to compress...."
>>
>
>14" is annoying but it can be "lived with."
>
>I suspect the main reason "they" want to destroy the building is that were
>it completed it would be next to impossible to fill it.
Yeah, it's just not possible that unplanned subsidence could actually
cause problems.
D.
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Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
> Yeah, it's just not possible that unplanned subsidence could
> actually cause problems.
Indeed. It might not cause problems if it remains no worse than it
is now, but further subsidence is likely, especially once people move
heavy furniture, books, waterbeds, etc., into those condos.
>
>"danny burstein" <dan...@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.09...@panix5.panix.com...
>> The ground is subsiding, and the tower's not even finished yet...
>>
>> "Ocean Towers LP has hired Controlled Demolition Inc. to raze
>> itsincomplete condominium tower on South Padre Island, which
>> is plaguedby 14 in. of differential vertical subsidence between
>> the post-tensioned, low-rise parking garage attached to the
>> tower. According to the owner, the tower's weight caused a layer
>> of expandable clay under an upper sand layer to compress...."
>>
>
>14" is annoying but it can be "lived with."
>
>I suspect the main reason "they" want to destroy the building is that were
>it completed it would be next to impossible to fill it.
>
>By destroying it they MIGHT get some money back from the bonding companies
>and the deep pocket contractors and their insurance companies. If the
>place is completed they go broke.
There are these guys who have trucks with drill rigs and core drills.
And a lab. If you don't hire them before you build, a jury will think
you deserve to lose your ass. I think downtown Des Moines has a couple
of hundred feet to the bedrock, so it's expensive to take the cowards
way out with pilings driven all the way to the rock. If you have nice
rock to build on, you may buy a lot of dynamite.
Casady
> There are these guys who have trucks with drill rigs and core drills.
> And a lab. If you don't hire them before you build, a jury will think
> you deserve to lose your ass. I think downtown Des Moines has a couple
> of hundred feet to the bedrock, so it's expensive to take the cowards
> way out with pilings driven all the way to the rock. If you have nice
> rock to build on, you may buy a lot of dynamite.
And then there is New Orleans, where for all practical purposes there is
no bedrock. Pilings on 2-foot centers are not unheard of. These are
friction pilings, where they drive them down and keep adding sections
until a dropped weight of over a hundred pounds causes a movement of
less than some tiny fraction of an inch. Meanwhile the entire
neighborhood vibrates. We lived on the top floor of an old mansion in
the Garden District [just behind St. George and the Dragon Church], and
were awakened one summer morning by the vibration of the bed [and
bedroom, and ceiling, and whatever] as they started driving pilings
across the street. With the first drop the piling would go down about 15
feet, as I remember. Almost like driving a straw into chocolate pudding.
Charles
Redo the floor plans to put the bedroom and living rooms on the uphill
side?
You sure that wasnt Nikola Tesla at work?
> Redo the floor plans to put the bedroom and living rooms on the
> uphill side?
Exactly. The rooms on the downhill side will be reserved for helium
balloon storage.
You said we did it for the show....r
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An optometrist asks whether you see the glass
more full like this?...or like this?
Painless? Izzat you?
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I'd sure hate to see it when it gets angry.
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I like the Diesel piledrivers.
Casady
ObDaveBarry: The Diesel Piledrivers would be a great name for a heavy metal
band....r
... from West Hollywood
Lon "sponsored by Preparation H, of course" Stowell
>>> I like the Diesel piledrivers.
>>
>> ObDaveBarry: The Diesel Piledrivers would be a great name for a heavy metal
>> band....r
>
> ... from West Hollywood
>
>Lon "sponsored by Preparation H, of course" Stowell
Vodka, orange juice, milk of magnesia: a Phillips screwdriver.
Vodka and prune juice: a piledriver.
R H "tip your waitstaff" Draney
>Richard Casady filted:
>>
>>On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:56:17 -0400, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
>><cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>And then there is New Orleans, where for all practical purposes there is
>>>no bedrock. Pilings on 2-foot centers are not unheard of. These are
>>>friction pilings, where they drive them down and keep adding sections
>>>until a dropped weight of over a hundred pounds causes a movement of
>>>less than some tiny fraction of an inch. Meanwhile the entire
>>>neighborhood vibrates. We lived on the top floor of an old mansion in
>>>the Garden District [just behind St. George and the Dragon Church], and
>>>were awakened one summer morning by the vibration of the bed [and
>>>bedroom, and ceiling, and whatever] as they started driving pilings
>>>across the street. With the first drop the piling would go down about 15
>>>feet, as I remember. Almost like driving a straw into chocolate pudding.
>>
>>I like the Diesel piledrivers.
>
>ObDaveBarry: The Diesel Piledrivers would be a great name for a heavy metal
>band....r
They would work the same venues as the Sheepsfoot Rollers. There
actually is a band called Mannheim Steamroller, believe it or not. The
Crawler Cranes?
Casady
>
> There actually is a band called Mannheim Steamroller, believe it or
> not. The Crawler Cranes?
>
Not too hard to believe, they've been around for three decades (Laserian).
--
-Don
Oh, I believe it. My brother was a fan of their "Fresh Aire"
albums (the first from around thirty-five years ago, IIRC).
I always thought it would be a good name for a heavy metal
band, but that was most definitely not a description that
could accurately be applied to Mannheim Steamroller.
For that matter there was also a band called Buffalo Springfield.
For an indication of just why this is relevant, take a look at
http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/springfield.jpg
--
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I thought Buffalo Springfield was another member of the same musical family that
gave us Rick and Dusty....r
Aha. I see there actually was a steam roller of that name, which,
I suppose, was ripped off for the musical group, as in "REO
Speedwagon".
I wonder how many rock groups ripped off real names? There's
Jethro Tull and Chicago Transit Authority.
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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Engelbert Humperdinck, Edison Lighthouse, ...
(And Gilbert O'Sullivan, if you like).
Do we really want to go there?
> They would work the same venues as the Sheepsfoot Rollers. There
> actually is a band called Mannheim Steamroller, believe it or not.
> The Crawler Cranes?
Go for the biggest -- The Big Muskies (nothing to do with fish).
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Lovecraft would have been horrified.
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"[A]ll things end under heaven, and if temporality is held to
be invalidating, then nothing real succeeds." - John Updike
>>> Engelbert Humperdinck, ...
A coworker of mine said he knew him. I was skeptical as I knew the
composer had died early in the 20th century, and my coworker didn't
appear to be old. I didn't learn until years later than someone had
borrowed the composer's name. My coworker was presumably speaking of
this usurper.
>>> Do we really want to go there?
>> Tesla would have been shocked.
> Lovecraft would have been horrified.
Ford would have been driven.
First time someone asked me what I thought of the Hilton sisters, I thought they
were talking about Daisy and Violet...this wasn't long after someone in
alt.movies.silent "corrected" someone's reference to Spike Jonze....
Alice Cooper, originally the name of the group and only later adopted by its
lead singer, was supposed to have been a little girl accused of witchcraft....
>>>> Do we really want to go there?
>
>>> Tesla would have been shocked.
>
>> Lovecraft would have been horrified.
>
>Ford would have been driven.
Does this band count?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6KX9WISHUs
>In article <hobmf5d66njtmbp2k...@4ax.com>,
>Hatunen <hat...@cox.net> wrote:
>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:41:56 +0000 (UTC), jo...@panix.com (John
>>Francis) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <h3elf5plj7nrc1urt...@4ax.com>,
>>>Richard Casady <richar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>For that matter there was also a band called Buffalo Springfield.
>>>For an indication of just why this is relevant, take a look at
>>>
>>> http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/springfield.jpg
>>
>>Aha. I see there actually was a steam roller of that name, which,
>>I suppose, was ripped off for the musical group, as in "REO
>>Speedwagon".
>>
>>I wonder how many rock groups ripped off real names? There's
>>Jethro Tull and Chicago Transit Authority.
>
>Engelbert Humperdinck, Edison Lighthouse, ...
>(And Gilbert O'Sullivan, if you like).
I don't think Edison Lighthouse counts. As far as I know there
never was such a thing denoted as Edison lighthouse. Edison
Kinetoscope, maybe.
>Do we really want to go there?
It may be too late. it may be better than highway numbering,
though.
>A [Temporary] Dog <AMunged...@munged.see.sig> wrote:
>> Don Freeman <free...@cosmoslair.com> wrote:
>>> John Francis wrote:
>>>> Hatunen <hat...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> I wonder how many rock groups ripped off real names? There's
>>>>> Jethro Tull and Chicago Transit Authority.
>
>>>> Engelbert Humperdinck, ...
>
>A coworker of mine said he knew him. I was skeptical as I knew the
>composer had died early in the 20th century, and my coworker didn't
>appear to be old. I didn't learn until years later than someone had
>borrowed the composer's name. My coworker was presumably speaking of
>this usurper.
I've seen possible ULs about youngsters a couple of decades ago
questioning the conenction between the opera Hansel and Gretel
and Engelbert Humperdinck.
Youngsters today probably never heard of either Engelbert
Humperdinck.
Music-store UL, mutated: was at Half-Price Books a couple of years ago turning
in a few things for cash and noticed a stack of LPs at the buy counter...on top
was the "Go Now" LP by the Moody Blues...the temptation was irresistible....
I picked it up and announced to no one in particular: "Hey, look! Denny Laine
was in another band before Wings!"
R H "once had a car stereo installed by Chad and Jeremy" Draney
:>In article <hobmf5d66njtmbp2k...@4ax.com>,
:>Hatunen <hat...@cox.net> wrote:
:>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:41:56 +0000 (UTC), jo...@panix.com (John
:>>Francis) wrote:
:>>
:>>>In article <h3elf5plj7nrc1urt...@4ax.com>,
:>>>Richard Casady <richar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
:>>>For that matter there was also a band called Buffalo Springfield.
:>>>For an indication of just why this is relevant, take a look at
:>>>
:>>> http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/springfield.jpg
:>>
:>>Aha. I see there actually was a steam roller of that name, which,
:>>I suppose, was ripped off for the musical group, as in "REO
:>>Speedwagon".
:>>
:>>I wonder how many rock groups ripped off real names? There's
:>>Jethro Tull and Chicago Transit Authority.
:>
:>Engelbert Humperdinck, Edison Lighthouse, ...
:>(And Gilbert O'Sullivan, if you like).
:I don't think Edison Lighthouse counts. As far as I know there
:never was such a thing denoted as Edison lighthouse. Edison
:Kinetoscope, maybe.
No, but there's an Eddystone lighthouse. Not all the world is
america.
--
sig 6
But is there a rock group called Eddystone Lighthouse?
Not in the archives:
http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/weirdbandnames/
....r
We could always check their G\"odel numbering...
Dave "inability to tell whether a thread has ended" DeLaney
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> Youngsters today probably never heard of either Engelbert
> Humperdinck.
Or Jethro Tull.
--
Suddenly he realized that he was alone
with a giant halfwit on a dark deserted street.
-- Chester Himes
Shouldn't you ask its god-damned keeper?
Anthony "let sleeping mermaids lie" McCafferty
No can do. It hasn't had a keeper for years, in common with (nearly?)
all lights around the UK and Ireland, even land-based ones.
--
Nick Spalding
So, no more porposes and porgies? The world will be a sadder place,
full of frustrated mermaids.
Mermaids have always been frustrated, comes from having one's naughty
bits scaled over.
--
-Don
They got ointments for that now, you know....r
I bow to your extensive knowledge of scaly naughty bits.
--
-Don
I in turn salute your rash decision....r
Steely Dan.
pt
What on earth was the original Steely Dan?
>On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:15:26 -0800 (PST), cryptoguy
><treif...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 11, 4:44�pm, Hatunen <hatu...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>> Aha. I see there actually was a steam roller of that name, which,
>>> I suppose, was ripped off for the musical group, as in "REO
>>> Speedwagon".
>>>
>>> I wonder how many rock groups ripped off real names? There's
>>> Jethro Tull and Chicago Transit Authority.
>>
>>Steely Dan
>
>What on earth was the original Steely Dan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_Lunch
"The band Steely Dan takes its name from a dildo featured in the book"
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Does anyone know any songs about dildos, or know anyone who does?...r
>On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:57:33 -0700, Hatunen <hat...@cox.net> painted
>a red bull's eye on his forehead, ascended the altar of Fluffy and
>shouted:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:15:26 -0800 (PST), cryptoguy
>><treif...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Nov 11, 4:44�pm, Hatunen <hatu...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Aha. I see there actually was a steam roller of that name, which,
>>>> I suppose, was ripped off for the musical group, as in "REO
>>>> Speedwagon".
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how many rock groups ripped off real names? There's
>>>> Jethro Tull and Chicago Transit Authority.
>>>
>>>Steely Dan
>>
>>What on earth was the original Steely Dan?
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_Lunch
>"The band Steely Dan takes its name from a dildo featured in the book"
Cool...
>Does anyone know any songs about dildos, or know anyone who does?...r
Yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm9UklULTjo
Thomas "or was that a rhetorical question?" Prufer
> I don't think Edison Lighthouse counts. As far as I know there
> never was such a thing denoted as Edison lighthouse.
There is, however, a Lighthouse at Edison:
http://www.realestate.com/NJ/Edison/24000888-Edison-NJ-08837-rental.aspx
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Religion ... the only winning move is not to play!
I'm a 39 year old youngster and I've only heard of the latter one. Why the
hell would someone pick that name on purpose?
--
chuk
Jethro Tull they've heard of. He has a song in Rock Band.
--
chuk
The Arrogant Worms have a song called "A Night in Dildo", but it's about
funny place names.
--
chuk
> I'm a 39 year old youngster and I've only heard of the latter one.
> Why the hell would someone pick that name on purpose?
Perhaps he wanted to be confused with the original. Like an aspiring
young science fiction author who changes his name to Isaac Asimov to
fool readers into buying his books.
Or maybe he just thought it was a cool-sounding name.
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>Chuk Goodin <cgo...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>> Hatunen <hat...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> Youngsters today probably never heard of either Engelbert
>>> Humperdinck.
>
>> I'm a 39 year old youngster and I've only heard of the latter one.
>> Why the hell would someone pick that name on purpose?
>
>Perhaps he wanted to be confused with the original. Like an aspiring
>young science fiction author who changes his name to Isaac Asimov to
>fool readers into buying his books.
Since the first one composed operas I don't reckon there would be
a whole lot of overlap in teh potential audience.