Off topic but
James
that brought a smile to my face and not a few chuckles from memories
of long ago frivolity.
It had a yellow caution sign with the words : "There are no Kangaroos
in Austria".
I immediately went looking through my wallet for the right business
card so I could on behalf of all of you, collect some royalties.
But alas and alack, I could no longer find the credential. Or the
address of any of you who I could send one to, but the sentiment was
there.
I am leaving Australia tomorrow before the shops open, but if you are
nice to me, and if I can find that at the Vienna airport, I could pick
one up. My real email is jl...@REMOVEprimus.ca - I trust you can
figure out the spam block.
James "where have all the internims gone" Linn
Lizz Holmans
wrote:
>I am leaving Australia tomorrow before the shops open, but if you are
>nice to me, and if I can find that at the Vienna airport, I could pick
>one up. My real email is jl...@REMOVEprimus.ca - I trust you can
>figure out the spam block.
Mike brought one of those back from Vienna for me several years ago.
It's probably in one of the strata of belongings I hang on the floor.
I've probably outgrown it (I get no taller, just wider). It did *not*
make up for not being able to go with him.
Lizz 'mit schlag' Holmans
--
I stayed up late to hear your voice.
Keith F. Lynch
> ... but if you are nice to me, and if I can find that at the Vienna
> airport, I could pick one up.
I've lived here in Vienna most of my life, and I've never seen that
shirt here.
(Or anywhere else in Virginia.)
> My real email is jl...@REMOVEprimus.ca - I trust you can figure out
> the spam block.
And so can spammers. Removing the uppercase letters is one of the
standard things they automatically do.
--
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Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.
Ralph Jones
wrote:
>I was being a tourist in Salzburg Australia today and saw a T shirt
>that brought a smile to my face and not a few chuckles from memories
>of long ago frivolity.
>
>It had a yellow caution sign with the words : "There are no Kangaroos
>in Austria".
>
I bought a shirt in '04, possibly from the same shop (Was it on the
Mozartplatz?), with the same caption under a picture of cows dancing
on an Alpine slope on their hind feet, using their front legs to hold
their udders up like a kangaroo pouch. I believe I published a link to
a .gif of it here. Really cheap shirt, didn't last long.
rj
ATT Yahoo
"James" <jl...@idirect.com> wrote in message
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Don Freeman
> Some people on afu have mixed Austria with Australia to be ironic.
>
Noooo! Really?
Keith F. Lynch
> Noooo! Really?
Next you'll me telling us that some people have mixed up Vienna,
Virginia with Vienna, Australia for the same reason.
I suspect there is a zoo in the European Vienna, and that there is a
kangaroo in that zoo, though I could be wrong. It's much more likely
that there are no kangaroos here in Vienna, Virginia, which has no zoo.
David Scheidt
:Don Freeman <free...@cosmoslair.com> wrote:
:> ATT Yahoo wrote:
:>> Some people on afu have mixed Austria with Australia to be ironic.
:> Noooo! Really?
:Next you'll me telling us that some people have mixed up Vienna,
:Virginia with Vienna, Australia for the same reason.
:I suspect there is a zoo in the European Vienna, and that there is a
:kangaroo in that zoo, though I could be wrong. It's much more likely
:that there are no kangaroos here in Vienna, Virginia, which has no zoo.
There's an Australian rules football team in Vienna (Austria) called
the Kangaroos. The meta-meter is off hte scale with that one.
--
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Moe Trin
<h3j6at$9au$1...@panix3.panix.com>, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>James <jl...@idirect.com> wrote:
>> ... but if you are nice to me, and if I can find that at the Vienna
>> airport, I could pick one up.
>I've lived here in Vienna most of my life, and I've never seen that
>shirt here.
I didn't know there was an airport in Vienna. I thought it was ten
or fifteen miles away in another countr^Hy.
>(Or anywhere else in Virginia.)
well, except for the non-existent Black Helicopter bases.
>> My real email is <elided> - I trust you can figure out
>> the spam block.
>And so can spammers. Removing the uppercase letters is one of the
>standard things they automatically do.
[compton ~]$ whatis sed tr
sed (1) - a Stream EDitor
tr (1) - translate or delete characters
[compton ~]$ echo 'NOfak...@eNxOaSmPpAlMe.com' | sed 's/[A-Z]//g'
fa...@example.com
[compton ~]$ echo 'NOfak...@eNxOaSmPpAlMe.com' | tr -d 'A-Z'
fa...@example.com
[compton ~]$
Really? Wow, hooda thunk! ('sed' and 'tr' are two common UNIX
commands, but there are _many_ other ways to do the same thing.)
Old guy
Lon
Iron, being a very heavy element, typically sinks to the bottom. Unlike
some posting...
Keith F. Lynch
> I didn't know there was an airport in Vienna. I thought it was ten
> or fifteen miles away in another countr^Hy.
I'm exactly equidistant between the dullest airport and the Reagan
Washington Reagan National Reagan Airport. Better yet, just call them
IAD and DCA. IAD is partly in my county (Fairfax). Ronald's airport
is in Arlington County. It's true that neither of them is in the town
of Vienna.
(A few years ago, when cost estimates for running Metrorail to IAD
were becoming more and more absurd, I suggested that the airport and
Vienna (Virginia) swap places, as relocating everything in Vienna
might have been cheaper.)
But if IAD can be considered a Washington Airport, I can't see why
it can't be considered a Vienna (Virginia) airport, since Vienna is
closer. I wouldn't be surprised if the airport that serves the
anschluss nation's capital isn't further from that city than IAD
is from my home town.
I once rode my bike to IAD, carrying a box on it into which I then
packed my bike and flew overseas, reversing the process in Europe,
then rode into town. See KeithLynch.net/bike.glasgow.html
The Vienna Metro station also isn't in Vienna. It was later renamed
Vienna/Fairfax, perhaps because it isn't in Fairfax either. And now
it's been renamed Vienna/Fairfax/GMU, since it's fully six miles from
the GMU campus. Perhaps I should be thankful that Reagan's name
hasn't been added to it.
What *is* in Vienna is the former home of the spy Robert Hanssen,
currently serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole.
I have a book about that case, appropriately enough called _The Spy
Next Door_ (not to be confused with the unrelated upcoming movie with
the same name). It's not actually next door to me, but it is pretty
close. I wonder if the folks next door to him have that book.
> well, except for the non-existent Black Helicopter bases.
It's pretty difficult to hide helicopter takeoffs and landings. Even
if it were possible to somehow build a silent helicopter, it would
still mess up TV reception in an unmistakable way.
Say, maybe *that's* why they shut down analog TV! It all makes so
much sense now!
>>> My real email is <elided> ...
I think you mean redacted, not elided.
Moe Trin
<h3m02d$hsg$1...@panix3.panix.com>, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>I'm exactly equidistant between the dullest airport and the Reagan
>Washington Reagan National Reagan Airport. Better yet, just call them
>IAD and DCA. IAD is partly in my county (Fairfax). Ronald's airport
>is in Arlington County.
Ah, but which brother is dullest named after?
>It's true that neither of them is in the town of Vienna.
Neither is VIE (airline code for LOWW)
>I wouldn't be surprised if the airport that serves the anschluss
>nation's capital isn't further from that city than IAD is from my home
>town.
The OAG lists Schwechat as 12.5 miles / 20.1 km (50 minutes) from the
city center. Hickmans guide says it's 18 km / 11 miles East and 25
to 30 minutes by train or coach.
>It's pretty difficult to hide helicopter takeoffs and landings. Even
>if it were possible to somehow build a silent helicopter,
Smithsonian 'Air & Space' magazine, March 2008 pg 63-70. Hughes 500P
wasn't silent, but was extremely difficult to locate by sound.
>it would still mess up TV reception in an unmistakable way.
>
>Say, maybe *that's* why they shut down analog TV! It all makes so
>much sense now!
oh-oh. Now you've done it.
>I think you mean redacted, not elided.
No.
Old guy
Keith F. Lynch
> Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>> I'm exactly equidistant between the dullest airport and the Reagan
>> Washington Reagan National Reagan Airport. Better yet, just call
>> them IAD and DCA. IAD is partly in my county (Fairfax). Ronald's
>> airport is in Arlington County.
> Ah, but which brother is dullest named after?
The dullest one, of course. The less dull one, they named the secret
underground black helicopter pad after. (Don't tell anyone.)
jl...@idirect.com
> On 15 Jul 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.folklore.urban, in article
Thats why I love coming back to AFU so I can be lectured by diactical
pedants.
The airport I am flying out of is the Vienna International Airport.
Whether or not it is in the boundaries of the city of Vienna is
somewhat moot. I'm sure a little research will show you many similar
examples, and cities are not the only kind of municipality -before an
amalgamation we had the city of Toronto and the much larger region of
Toronto.The airport (Pearson that is not Island) was not in the city
but was in the region.
There is in fact a zoo at the Shoenbrun (sp?) but I didn't tour it. It
has pandas, no idea about kangaroos.
The shirts are all over now, I am sure I will see them at the airport,
and the souvenir shop in the lobby has them as well.
James"what was I thinking coming back" Linn
Hatunen
>On 16 Jul., 21:57, ibupro...@painkiller.example.tld (Moe Trin) wrote:
>> On 15 Jul 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.folklore.urban, in article
>> <h3m02d$hs...@panix3.panix.com>, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>>
>> >I'm exactly equidistant between the dullest airport and the Reagan
>> >Washington Reagan National Reagan Airport. �Better yet, just call them
>> >IAD and DCA. �IAD is partly in my county (Fairfax). �Ronald's airport
>> >is in Arlington County.
>>
>> Ah, but which brother is dullest named after?
>>
>> >It's true that neither of them is in the town of Vienna.
>>
>> Neither is VIE (airline code for LOWW)
[...]
>The airport I am flying out of is the Vienna International Airport.
>Whether or not it is in the boundaries of the city of Vienna is
>somewhat moot. I'm sure a little research will show you many similar
>examples, and cities are not the only kind of municipality -before an
>amalgamation we had the city of Toronto and the much larger region of
>Toronto.The airport (Pearson that is not Island) was not in the city
>but was in the region.
It may amuse you to know that YNG is the airport at Vienna.
(GoogleMap for Vienna OH.)
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Alan J Rosenthal
>Thats why I love coming back to AFU so I can be lectured by diactical
>pedants.
Well in that case...
>-before an
>amalgamation we had the city of Toronto and the much larger region of
>Toronto.The airport (Pearson that is not Island) was not in the city
>but was in the region.
Actually it was in neither. And still is(n't). That is to say, it was always
outside the bounds of the Regional Municipality of Metropolitan Toronto.
It is in the city of Mississauga, which is in Peel Region.
IIRC, Mark Brader explained that the rule is that the airport has to be
named after _some_ municipality which it serves, but not necessarily the
one which it's actually in.
Keith F. Lynch
> "jl...@idirect.com" <jl...@idirect.com> writes:
>> -before an amalgamation we had the city of Toronto and the much
>> was not in the city but was in the region.
> Actually it was in neither. And still is(n't). That is to say,
> it was always outside the bounds of the Regional Municipality of
> Metropolitan Toronto.
That's one reason why the one time I visited Toronto I never went near
the airport. I took the train, which left me right across the street
from the convention hotel I was heading to.
I arrived early, so I spent some time exploring. I bought a map,
walked over 20 miles, and went up the CN tower. Then the next day,
for the first time, I went outdoors.
When I returned to the US I was deferred from donating blood. When I
unaccountably failed to die of SARS, or even get sick, despite having
visited Canada's notorious city of death, they eventually let me
resume donating. The Red Cross claims that each donation saves
three lives. I wonder what three people they condemned to death by
deferring me.
> It is in the city of Mississauga, which is in Peel Region. IIRC,
> Mark Brader explained that the rule is that the airport has to be
> named after _some_ municipality which it serves, but not necessarily
> the one which it's actually in.
That rule is only in Canada? Because plenty of airports in the US
aren't named after places. For instance Dulles or O'Hair. (There
is a Dulles, Virginia, but it was named after the airport, not vice
versa.) Then there's Ontario airport, which is actually in Southern
California.
Moe Trin
<e62efef4-a2ae-415c...@c1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
jl...@idirect.com wrote:
NOTE: Posting from groups.google.com (or some web-forums) dramatically
reduces the chance of your post being seen. Find a real news server.
> (Moe Trin) wrote:
>> Keith F. Lynch wrote:
[KIAD and KDCA]
>>>It's true that neither of them is in the town of Vienna.
>> Neither is VIE (airline code for LOWW)
>>>I wouldn't be surprised if the airport that serves the anschluss
>>>nation's capital isn't further from that city than IAD is from my home
>>>town.
>> The OAG lists Schwechat as 12.5 miles / 20.1 km (50 minutes) from the
>> city center. Hickmans guide says it's 18 km / 11 miles East and 25
>> to 30 minutes by train or coach.
>The airport I am flying out of is the Vienna International Airport.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_International_Airport
Vienna International Airport (IATA: VIE, ICAO: LOWW) (German: Flughafen
Wien-Schwechat), located in Schwechat and 18 kilometres (11 mi)
southeast of central Vienna, is the busiest and biggest airport in
Austria.
Normally, one would use wikipedia with considerable caution, but there
are more than enough other authoritative sites that confirm this data
(except for the spelling of the country, of course).
>Whether or not it is in the boundaries of the city of Vienna is
>somewhat moot. I'm sure a little research will show you many similar
>examples, and cities are not the only kind of municipality -before an
>amalgamation we had the city of Toronto and the much larger region of
>Toronto.The airport (Pearson that is not Island) was not in the city
>but was in the region.
Similar example - KSFO or San Francisco (California) International
Airport is not in the city or county of San Francisco. Just 46 km /
29 miles down the road is the 'Mineta San Jose International Airport'
(KSJC) around a mile from the city center (San Jose City Hall is 1300
meters / 0.8 miles from the runway). I'm sure a number of people have
had to walk further to get to baggage claim. Other extreme? Who knows?
"Tokyo Narita" is 66 km / 41 miles out, and I'm sure there are worse.
Old guy
Moe Trin
<m4p165hoeu5ji4d6s...@4ax.com>, Hatunen wrote:
><jl...@idirect.com> wrote:
>> (Moe Trin) wrote:
>>> Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>>>> I'm exactly equidistant between the dullest airport and the Reagan
>>>> Washington Reagan National Reagan Airport. Better yet, just call
>>>> them IAD and DCA.
>>>> It's true that neither of them is in the town of Vienna.
>>> Neither is VIE (airline code for LOWW)
>> The airport I am flying out of is the Vienna International Airport.
>> Whether or not it is in the boundaries of the city of Vienna is
>> somewhat moot.
>It may amuse you to know that YNG is the airport at Vienna.
Yeah, but those people are awfully confused. About 4 miles West of
Vienna is Venice Heights, 14 miles South is Poland, and 11 miles NNW
is Mecca. They've even got the compass directions wrong!
Old guy
Keith F. Lynch
> Just 46 km / 29 miles down the road is the 'Mineta San Jose
> International Airport' (KSJC) around a mile from the city center
> (San Jose City Hall is 1300 meters / 0.8 miles from the runway).
> I'm sure a number of people have had to walk further to get to
> baggage claim. Other extreme? Who knows? "Tokyo Narita" is 66 km /
> 41 miles out, and I'm sure there are worse.
Wikipedia says:
At that time, Viracopos even appeared on the Guinness Book of
Records as the farthest airport from the city it allegedly served,
a dubious title that now probably rests with Stockholm-V�ster�s
Airport, a secondary airport serving (at least nominally) Stockholm,
Sweden, located about 110 km (68 miles) from that city.
and
Reykjav�k Airport (Icelandic: Reykjav�kurflugv�llur, (IATA: RKV,
ICAO: BIRK) is the chiefly domestic airport serving Reykjav�k,
Iceland. The airport lies within a five-minute walk of Reykjav�k's
city centre.
Ralph Jones
wrote:
[snip]
>
>That rule is only in Canada? Because plenty of airports in the US
>aren't named after places. For instance Dulles or O'Hair.
...and I suppose you're gonna tell me the BoP forbids school prayer
jokes...
rj
Moe Trin
<h3t7qi$qh6$1...@panix2.panix.com>, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>Alan J Rosenthal <fl...@dgp.toronto.edu> wrote:
>> IIRC, Mark Brader explained that the rule is that the airport has
>> to be named after _some_ municipality which it serves, but not
>> necessarily the one which it's actually in.
That may be a convention or tradition, but I don't believe it to be
a published rule or law.
>That rule is only in Canada? Because plenty of airports in the US
>aren't named after places. For instance Dulles or O'Hair.
There are many - how about "Bradley International" (KBDL) that serves
the towns of Hartford CT and Springfield MA - located in Windsor Locks
CT. Burke Lakefront (Cleveland OH), the several Capital City (IL, KY,
MI, and PA at least) airports, Eppley in Omaha NE, General Mitchell
International in Milwaukee, WI... heck, what about the "main" airports
in New York City (La Guardia and John F. Kennedy which was Idlewild).
Many airports with commemorative names lack a city or regional part in
the name. (I'm not even thinking of the military or ex-military fields
that have unrelated names.)
In the past, IATA allowed "common" name codes for airport baggage tags
to avoid panicking the passenger who saw his baggage tagged for LHR or
LGW rather than London (LON), EWR, LGA, or JFK for New York (NYC),
MDW or ORD for Chicago (CHI), HND or NRT for Tokyo (TYO) and so on. In
general, this was for cities with multiple airports.
In the US, there is an FAA ruling that the radio navigation aids can
only be named for the airport if they are located on (or very nearly
so) the airport itself. This came about after some l00ser decided to
home on a radio aid (VOR) named for the airport, but located some
five or six miles out (but lined up with a runway on that airport).
He crashed, near the navigation aid, and far from the airport for some
strange reason. That the idiot had broken several laws (what do you
mean no maps/charts?) was besides the point. Must protect the idiots
as they are a dying species (fortunately, not on the endangered list).
Old guy
Paul Tomblin
>In the US, there is an FAA ruling that the radio navigation aids can
>only be named for the airport if they are located on (or very nearly
>so) the airport itself. This came about after some l00ser decided to
BUF (vor) and BUF (airport) and 3.8 nautical miles apart.
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One item could not be deleted because it was missing.
-- Mac System 7.0b1 error message
sigvaldi
> Moe Trin <ibupro...@painkiller.example.tld> wrote:
> > Just 46 km / 29 miles down the road is the 'Mineta San Jose
> > International Airport' (KSJC) around a mile from the city center
> > (San Jose City Hall is 1300 meters / 0.8 miles from the runway).
> > I'm sure a number of people have had to walk further to get to
> > baggage claim. Other extreme? Who knows? "Tokyo Narita" is 66 km /
> > 41 miles out, and I'm sure there are worse.
>
> Wikipedia says:
>
> At that time, Viracopos even appeared on the Guinness Book of
> Records as the farthest airport from the city it allegedly served,
> Airport, a secondary airport serving (at least nominally) Stockholm,
> Sweden, located about 110 km (68 miles) from that city.
>
> and
>
> ICAO: BIRK) is the chiefly domestic airport serving Reykjavík,
> Iceland. The airport lies within a five-minute walk of Reykjavík's
> city centre.
> --
> Keith F. Lynch -http://keithlynch.net/
> Please seehttp://keithlynch.net/email.htmlbefore emailing me.
After walking five minutes, you are still walking past the airport,
takes you another 15 minutes to get downtown (and the Reykjavík city
centre is quite far away from the center of the city)
The Keflavik airport is not within the town limits of Keflavík, both
the runways and the terminal are in Sandgerði.
Moe Trin
<h40haa$ssf$1...@xen1.xcski.com>, Paul Tomblin wrote:
>ibup...@painkiller.example.tld (Moe Trin) said:
>>In the US, there is an FAA ruling that the radio navigation aids can
>>only be named for the airport if they are located on (or very nearly
>>so) the airport itself. This came about after some l00ser decided to
>BUF (vor) and BUF (airport) and 3.8 nautical miles apart.
I should have remembered that from the Colgan 3407 reports. The rule
may have been relaxed, or never applied everywhere. It certainly did
cause the rename of the Bakersfield, Fresno, Lake Tahoe, March AFB,
Merced, Napa, San Diego, San Luis Obisbo, Santa Barbara, Stockton and
Ukiah VORs in California (but not Daggett, Red Bluff, Sacramento or
Twentynine Palms), Elko and Reno in Nevada, Roswell in New Mexico,
Medford, Redmond and The Dalles (but not Portland) in Oregon,
Casa Grande, and Prescott (but not Buckeye or Tucson) in Arizona, and
I'm sure quite a few others elsewhere. At least in these examples,
the only thing done was a rename and change in call letters (which of
course changed the approach plates and charts). Frequency, location
and procedure remained otherwise unchanged. Note that I'm only listing
VORs and VORTACs, and ignoring TACANs and NDBs (some of which also
changed).
Old guy
R H Draney
>
>On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.folklore.urban, in article
><h40haa$ssf$1...@xen1.xcski.com>, Paul Tomblin wrote:
>
>
>>>In the US, there is an FAA ruling that the radio navigation aids can
>>>only be named for the airport if they are located on (or very nearly
>>>so) the airport itself. This came about after some l00ser decided to
>
>>BUF (vor) and BUF (airport) and 3.8 nautical miles apart.
>
>may have been relaxed, or never applied everywhere. It certainly did
>cause the rename of the Bakersfield, Fresno, Lake Tahoe, March AFB,
>Merced, Napa, San Diego, San Luis Obisbo, Santa Barbara, Stockton and
>Ukiah VORs in California (but not Daggett, Red Bluff, Sacramento or
>Twentynine Palms), Elko and Reno in Nevada, Roswell in New Mexico,
>Medford, Redmond and The Dalles (but not Portland) in Oregon,
>Casa Grande, and Prescott (but not Buckeye or Tucson) in Arizona, and
>I'm sure quite a few others elsewhere. At least in these examples,
>the only thing done was a rename and change in call letters (which of
>course changed the approach plates and charts). Frequency, location
>and procedure remained otherwise unchanged. Note that I'm only listing
>VORs and VORTACs, and ignoring TACANs and NDBs (some of which also
>changed).
RIP, BOA....r
--
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An optometrist asks whether you see the glass
more full like this?...or like this?
Don Freeman
LOL
Lon
Somebody shredding a snake here?!!
Moe Trin
<h42um...@drn.newsguy.com>, R H Draney wrote:
>Moe Trin filted:
>>I should have remembered that from the Colgan 3407 reports. The rule
>>may have been relaxed, or never applied everywhere. It certainly did
>>cause the rename of the Bakersfield, Fresno, Lake Tahoe, March AFB,
>>Merced, Napa, San Diego, San Luis Obisbo, Santa Barbara, Stockton and
>>Ukiah VORs in California (but not Daggett, Red Bluff, Sacramento or
>>Twentynine Palms), Elko and Reno in Nevada, Roswell in New Mexico,
>>Medford, Redmond and The Dalles (but not Portland) in Oregon,
>>Casa Grande, and Prescott (but not Buckeye or Tucson) in Arizona, and
>>I'm sure quite a few others elsewhere. [...] Note that I'm only
>>listing VORs and VORTACs, and ignoring TACANs and NDBs (some of which
>>also changed).
>RIP, BOA....r
But I _didn't_ write that as
] I should have remembered that from the CO-3407 reports. The rule
] may have been relaxed, or never applied everywhere. It certainly did
] cause the rename of the BFL, FAT, LTA, MRX, MCE, APC, SAN, SBP, SBA,
] SCK and UKI VORs in CA, (but not DAG, RBL, SAC or TNP), EKO and RNO in
] NV, ROW in NM, MFR, RDM and DLS (but not PDX), in OR, CZG and PRC (but
] not BXK or TUS) in AZ, and I'm sure quite a few others elsewhere.
never mind writing what the new names/call-signs were, or that Colgan
is actually 9L when flying under their own name. Or are you objecting
to Visual Omni Range beacons, Visual Omni Range TACtical air navigation
stations, TACtical Air Navigation stations, and Non-Directional Beacons
which are the correct names hardly anyone uses any more.
(It's scary to realize I remember all of those call-signs, even though
most of the changes were 20+ years ago, and I haven't flown into most
of those airports in over 15 years.)
Old guy
Richard Casady
wrote:
> James "where have all the internims gone" Linn
I thought of getting one once. I kind of liked " Dances with wolves "
but I discovered that it was taken. So I settled on " Sleeps with
kitties "
Casady
R H Draney
I suppose "flushes with gerbils" wouldn't go over well....r