"Storm near Bunbury" - faked/nicked tornado photos?
Lara
tornadoes" rip through the southern Perth suburbs and the Southwest two
days ago. This isn't usually tornado country, and there was a lot of
property destruction, a couple of cranes tipped over, a school was
destroyed, but happily no-one appears to have been killed.
Now circulating by forwarded email is a set of photographs purporting to
be of the storm near Bunbury in the southwest. The subject line is "FW:
Photos of storm near Bunbury " and the text reads "you'd swear these
were taken in america's mid west / tornado belt..."
Firstly, this doesn't look like any Bunbury I'm familiar with - and
secondly, the tornado is reported to have hit before sunrise. Does
anyone recognise these photos?
Fritz M
> http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/
Another thought: Has anyone contacted the domain owner and his him
where those photos are from? Or is he the originator of the email?
RFM
Alice Faber
{nospam}@waawa.cx (Lara) wrote:
Well, in <http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/i000766_big.html>, it
certainly looks like there are oncoming headlights in the left lane,
rather than in the right lane as I would expect in Austria. There's a
road sign visible in one of the other photos, but I couldn't make out
enough detail in it.
Alice "sceptics ya us" Faber
--
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Lara
> Lara wrote:
>
> > http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/
>
> Another thought: Has anyone contacted the domain owner and his him
> where those photos are from?
Oh yes, we're quite close.
Lara "> Now circulating by forwarded email" Hopkins
Lara
> Well, in <http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/i000766_big.html>, it
> certainly looks like there are oncoming headlights in the left lane,
> rather than in the right lane as I would expect in Austria. There's a
> road sign visible in one of the other photos, but I couldn't make out
> enough detail in it.
And what appears to be a cornfield.
Lara
Alice Faber
{nospam}@waawa.cx (Lara) wrote:
I noticed that also, but I'm not at all familiar with Austrian croppage,
so I couldn't be sure whether that's a problem for the putative origin
of the photos.
Alice " " Faber
Billzz
news:afaber-B2BF46....@reader1.panix.com...
> In article <1gwt5in.128hz7v1kghrr2N%{nospam}@waawa.cx>,
> {nospam}@waawa.cx (Lara) wrote:
>
>> Alice Faber <afa...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Well, in <http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/i000766_big.html>, it
>> > certainly looks like there are oncoming headlights in the left lane,
>> > rather than in the right lane as I would expect in Austria. There's a
>> > road sign visible in one of the other photos, but I couldn't make out
>> > enough detail in it.
>>
>> And what appears to be a cornfield.
>
> I noticed that also, but I'm not at all familiar with Austrian croppage,
> so I couldn't be sure whether that's a problem for the putative origin
> of the photos.
>
> Alice " " Faber
One of the pictures show power poles and one of them has a transformer
located as it would be in the US. The road shows a yellow and white stripe
as it would be in the US. The yellow diamond sign with an arrow is the same
as the US. Not having ever been to Australia, I do not know if it's the
same. The sign is on the right side of the road, if it is for the main
highway, or the left side of the road if it is for the secondary road. An
Aussie should know. One pic shows a white house with a black (thatch) roof,
not American, maybe an Aussie would know.
Anyhow, I vote that they are really great pics and probably what was stated.
Why would anyone lie about this? Incidentally, I used to drive across the
US, more than twenty times, and have pics of tornadoes in Kansas, New
Mexico, and Oklahoma, and Texas (lived in Texas) but they do not look like
these pics.
Bill "Now in the earthquake belt"
Lizz Holmans
>Firstly, this doesn't look like any Bunbury I'm familiar with - and
>secondly, the tornado is reported to have hit before sunrise. Does
>anyone recognise these photos?
>
>http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/
I have never seen a twister with that wide a cloud top and that small
a footprint, but that's just me. As for landscape, it could just as
easily be rural Kansas, Iowa, or any of the flat states--but I don't
think it's an Oklahoma tornado, unless it's the 5-5-99 one, and it's
the wrong time of the day for that.
Lizz 'if you wave your hands enough, there will be a tornado in
Bunbury' Holmans
--
I was too far out all my life
Celia
bogus.
"Billzz" <billzz...@starband.net> wrote in message
news:e2811$428c0a4c$9440b19b$21...@STARBAND.NET...
Bunbury
http://western-australia.blogspot.com
and Bunbury information at -
http://www.bunburyonline.com
Charles Wm. Dimmick
most elaborate and longest version I have ever encountered.
Someone went to a lot of effort, and it makes a pretty good read.
Charles
Garden Grass Snakes (also known as Garter Snakes.. Thamnophis sirtalis)
can be dangerous ..... Yes, grass snakes, not rattlesnakes. Here's why...
A couple in Sweetwater, Texas, had a lot of potted plants. During a
recent cold spell, the wife was bringing a lot of them indoors to
protect them from a possible freeze.
It turned out that a little green garden grass snake was hidden in
one of the plants and when it had warmed up, it slithered out and the
wife saw it go under the sofa. She let out a very loud scream.
The husband (who was taking a shower) ran out into the living room
naked to see what the problem was. She told him there was a snake under
the sofa. He got down on the floor on his hands and knees to look for it.
About that time the family dog came and cold-nosed him on the butt.
He thought the snake had bitten him, so he screamed and fell over on
the floor. His wife thought he had a heart attack, so she covered him
up, told him to lie still and called an ambulance.
The attendants rushed in, wouldn't listen to his protests and loaded
him on the stretcher and started carrying him out. About that time the
snake came out from under the sofa and the Emergency Medical Technician
saw it and dropped his end of the stretcher. That's when the man broke
his leg and why he is still in the hospital.
The wife still had the problem of the snake in the house, so she
called the neighbor man. He volunteered to capture the snake. He armed
himself with a rolled-up newspaper and began poking under the couch.
Soon he decided it was gone and told the woman, who sat down on the sofa
in relief. But in relaxing, her hand dangled in between the cushions,
where she felt the snake wriggling around. She screamed and fainted,
the snake rushed ack under the sofa, and the neighbor man, seeing her
lying there passed out, he tried to use CPR to revive her.
The neighbor's wife, who had just returned from shopping at the
grocery store, saw her husband's mouth on the woman's mouth and slammed
her husband in the back of the head with a bag of canned goods,
knocking him out and cutting his scalp to a point where it needed stitches.
The noise woke the woman from her dead faint and she saw her neighbor
lying on the floor with his wife bending over him, so she assumed he had
been bitten by the snake.
She went to the kitchen and got a small bottle of whiskey, and began
pouring it down the man's throat. By now the police had arrived. They
saw the unconscious man, smelled the whiskey, and assumed that a drunken
fight had occurred.
They were about to arrest them all, when the women tried to explain
how it all happened over a little green snake. The police called an
ambulance, which took away the neighbor and his sobbing wife.
Just then the little snake crawled out from under the sofa. One of
the policemen drew his gun and fired at it. He missed the snake and hit
the leg of the end table that was on one side of the sofa. The table
fell over and the lamp on it shattered and as the bulb broke it started
a fire in the drapes.
The other policeman tried to beat out the flames, and fell through
the window into the yard on top of the family dog who, startled, jumped
out and raced into the street, where an oncoming car swerved to avoid it
and smashed into the parked police car.
Meanwhile, the burning drapes were seen by the neighbors and they
called the fire department, and the arriving fire truck had started
raising its ladder when they were halfway down the street. The rising
ladder tore out the overhead wires and put out the electricity and
disconnected the telephones in a ten-square city block area but they
did get the house fire out.
Time passed.
Both men were discharged from the hospital, the house was repaired,
the dog came home, the police acquired a new car, and all was right with
their world.
A while later they were watching TV and the weatherman announced a
cold snap for that night. The husband asked his wife if she thought
they should bring in their plants for the night.
That's when she shot him.
Donna Richoux
I don't have anything specific to say, except that I've seen a lot of
photos of approaching tornadoes and these are different. These are more
colorful, with dramatic shapes, unlike the dark, drab, and haphazard
snapshots taken by people who are probably running for their lives. All
the tornadoes shown on Google Images first 25 pages have either
extremely flat, broad tops or highly irregular tops -- not the strongly
rounded shape on several of these. Either these are completely doctored
(they remind me of some computer-generated shapes) or they are some
professional chaser's set of lifetime-favorites. Faked, nicked, yeah.
--
Donna "obsessed since first saw Wiz of Oz, age 4" Richoux
JoAnne Schmitz
>There's real pictures of the Bunbury storms at -
>http://western-australia.blogspot.com
These are pictures of damage to buildings. They're not directly comparable
to pictures of the storm over farmland.
I'm not saying they must be Bunbury, but are there areas around Bunbury
that might look like the pictures Lara posted? Are the highway signs
compatible with Australian highway signs and so on?
>and Bunbury information at -
>http://www.bunburyonline.com
"Shops are normally open 8.30am-5.30pm Monday to Friday and 8.30am-5.00pm
Saturdays with late night shopping until 9pm on Thursday."
I hesitate to start a subthread even more boring than highway naming, but
is this usual in other communities? Little shops where I live have that
kind of schedule, but most regular stores (grocery, clothing, department
stores) where I live are open something like 10am to 9pm Monday through
Friday, and maybe 12 to 5 on Sundays.
JoAnne "consumer culture" Schmitz
--
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That's TAFKAC.ORG
Do not accept lame imitations at previously okay URLs
JoAnne Schmitz
wrote:
>I've seen many versions of the following story, but this is the
>most elaborate and longest version I have ever encountered.
>Someone went to a lot of effort, and it makes a pretty good read.
>
>Charles
It's a combination of legends.
First the snake story:
Now we have a variation on the guy driving across the bridge, seeing a
woman disrobing in preparation for leaping off in a suicide attempt, he
struggles with her, another motorist sees him and thinks he's trying to
rape her:
> The neighbor's wife, who had just returned from shopping at the
>grocery store, saw her husband's mouth on the woman's mouth and slammed
>her husband in the back of the head with a bag of canned goods,
>knocking him out and cutting his scalp to a point where it needed stitches.
>
> The noise woke the woman from her dead faint and she saw her neighbor
>lying on the floor with his wife bending over him, so she assumed he had
>been bitten by the snake.
>
> She went to the kitchen and got a small bottle of whiskey, and began
>pouring it down the man's throat. By now the police had arrived. They
>saw the unconscious man, smelled the whiskey, and assumed that a drunken
>fight had occurred.
Another
> They were about to arrest them all, when the women tried to explain
>how it all happened over a little green snake. The police called an
>ambulance, which took away the neighbor and his sobbing wife.
>
> Just then the little snake crawled out from under the sofa. One of
>the policemen drew his gun and fired at it. He missed the snake and hit
>the leg of the end table that was on one side of the sofa. The table
>fell over and the lamp on it shattered and as the bulb broke it started
>a fire in the drapes.
This is very much like the Squirrel Cop story on the "First Day" episode of
This American Life:
http://207.70.82.73/pages/descriptions/98/115.html
> The other policeman tried to beat out the flames, and fell through
>the window into the yard on top of the family dog who, startled, jumped
>out and raced into the street, where an oncoming car swerved to avoid it
>and smashed into the parked police car.
>
> Meanwhile, the burning drapes were seen by the neighbors and they
>called the fire department, and the arriving fire truck had started
>raising its ladder when they were halfway down the street. The rising
>ladder tore out the overhead wires and put out the electricity and
>disconnected the telephones in a ten-square city block area but they
>did get the house fire out.
What, no tree flexed by the firemen trying to rescue a cat frightened by
the fire?
> Time passed.
>
> Both men were discharged from the hospital, the house was repaired,
>the dog came home, the police acquired a new car, and all was right with
>their world.
>
> A while later they were watching TV and the weatherman announced a
>cold snap for that night. The husband asked his wife if she thought
>they should bring in their plants for the night.
>
> That's when she shot him.
JoAnne "were they still living without electricity?" Schmitz
R H Draney
>
>Those pics are bogus..I'm a Bunbury resident and those pics are defiantly
>bogus.
"Yeah, we're bogus!...and we're gonna go right on being bogus, and there's not a
thing you can do about it!"...
R H "defiant spled-flammer" Draney
Ray Heindl
> Firstly, this doesn't look like any Bunbury I'm familiar with -
> and secondly, the tornado is reported to have hit before sunrise.
> Does anyone recognise these photos?
>
> http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/
Several of the pictures show storms that appear (to me, at least) to be
rotating counterclockwise. Since this isn't a toilet we're talking
about, this would favor a northern hemisphericity.
Nice pictures, wherever they were taken.
--
Ray Heindl
(remove the Xs to reply)
Donna Richoux
> Celia filted:
> >
> >Those pics are bogus..I'm a Bunbury resident and those pics are defiantly
> >bogus.
>
> "Yeah, we're bogus!...and we're gonna go right on being bogus, and there's
> not a thing you can do about it!"...
I may mention that I have always suspected you of being a confirmed and
secret Bunburyist; and I am quite sure of it now.
What you really are is a Bunburyist. I was quite right in saying you
were a Bunburyist. You are one of the most advanced Bunburyists I know.
Now that I know you to be a confirmed Bunburyist I naturally want to
talk to you about Bunburying. I want to tell you the rules.
--
Donna "I never travel without my diary" Richoux
Eric Hocking
> Well, in <http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/i000766_big.html>, it
> certainly looks like there are oncoming headlights in the left lane,
> rather than in the right lane as I would expect in Austria. There's a
> road sign visible in one of the other photos, but I couldn't make out
> enough detail in it.
This is more easily show in
<http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/i000770_big.html> where the slip road in
the foreground feeds to the right-hand side of the dual carraigeway where,
while you cannot determine definitively the direction of the car "going away
from us" the truck coming towards the camera, certainly appears to be on the
wrong side for Austrian traffic.
--
Eric "drives on the wrong side in Europe - sometimes intentionally" Hocking
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"
"Ignorance is a renewable resource" P.J.O'Rourke
Attempting spam blocking - remove upper case to reply.
Dr H
On Thu, 19 May 2005, JoAnne Schmitz vociferated:
}On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:09:57 GMT, "Charles Wm. Dimmick" <cdim...@snet.net>
}wrote:
}
}>I've seen many versions of the following story, but this is the
}>most elaborate and longest version I have ever encountered.
}>Someone went to a lot of effort, and it makes a pretty good read.
}>
}>Charles
}
}It's a combination of legends.
}
}First the snake story:
}
}>Garden Grass Snakes (also known as Garter Snakes.. Thamnophis sirtalis)
}>can be dangerous ..... Yes, grass snakes, not rattlesnakes. Here's why...
}>
}>A couple in Sweetwater, Texas, had a lot of potted plants. During a
}>recent cold spell, the wife was bringing a lot of them indoors to
}>protect them from a possible freeze.
}>
}> It turned out that a little green garden grass snake was hidden in
}>one of the plants and when it had warmed up, it slithered out and the
}>wife saw it go under the sofa. She let out a very loud scream.
}>
And this part...
}> The husband (who was taking a shower) ran out into the living room
}>naked to see what the problem was. She told him there was a snake under
}>the sofa. He got down on the floor on his hands and knees to look for it.
}>
}> About that time the family dog came and cold-nosed him on the butt.
}>He thought the snake had bitten him, so he screamed and fell over on
}>the floor. His wife thought he had a heart attack, so she covered him
}>up, told him to lie still and called an ambulance.
}>
}> The attendants rushed in, wouldn't listen to his protests and loaded
}>him on the stretcher and started carrying him out. About that time the
}>snake came out from under the sofa and the Emergency Medical Technician
}>saw it and dropped his end of the stretcher. That's when the man broke
}>his leg and why he is still in the hospital.
... is either a variation of, has been varied to the story of the wife
who has a broken pipe under the kitchen sink, calls her humband out of
the shower, he gets on the floor to reach teh shut-off valve, &etc...
Dr H
Narelle
>
> "Shops are normally open 8.30am-5.30pm Monday to Friday and 8.30am-5.00pm
> Saturdays with late night shopping until 9pm on Thursday."
>
> I hesitate to start a subthread even more boring than highway naming, but
> is this usual in other communities? Little shops where I live have that
> kind of schedule, but most regular stores (grocery, clothing, department
> stores) where I live are open something like 10am to 9pm Monday through
> Friday, and maybe 12 to 5 on Sundays.
>
> JoAnne "consumer culture" Schmitz
>
The times mentioned would be about normal hours for most of Aus.
This is the trading hours at my local mall, which one of the biggest in
my State:
http://www.warringahmall.com.au/tradinghours.asp
The smaller specialty shops within the mall keep hours approx the same
as DJ's or Myers. Coles and Woolworths are the supermarkets.
However, my so called "Village Shopping Centre", which is in my suburb,
and mainly used only by locals, keeps much shorter hours; more like 9-5
M-F, 10-4 Weekends. No late night Thursday shopping; we are all at the
Mall then. All the hairdressers are closed Mondays (for some reason, out
of about 30 shops, 5 are hairdressers), as is the one dress shop. The
small supermarket is open till 7pm every night.
Narelle "well coiffured" Stacey
R H Draney
Nor do I, but I get the distinct impression a couple of pages have somehow got
stuck together....r
Billzz
news:d6j0tm$kff$1...@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> "Alice Faber" <afa...@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:afaber-3864D9....@reader1.panix.com...
>> In article <1gwt3tx.d964nu17xghm1N%{nospam}@waawa.cx>,
>> {nospam}@waawa.cx (Lara) wrote:
> <snip>
>> Well, in <http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/i000766_big.html>, it
>> certainly looks like there are oncoming headlights in the left lane,
>> rather than in the right lane as I would expect in Austria. There's a
>> road sign visible in one of the other photos, but I couldn't make out
>> enough detail in it.
>
> This is more easily show in
> <http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/i000770_big.html> where the slip road in
> the foreground feeds to the right-hand side of the dual carraigeway where,
> while you cannot determine definitively the direction of the car "going
> away
> from us" the truck coming towards the camera, certainly appears to be on
> the
> wrong side for Austrian traffic.
And the yellow "merge " sign is facing the wrong way (right way if it's
Kansas.)
Bill "Unless the tornado did it."
TeaLady (Mari C.)
news:Xns965BAF14...@207.115.63.158:
Here's a few slightly similar pics
http://tinyurl.com/9q47q
"8. Wall cloud below a supercell cumulonimbus cloud. Photo by
Jeremy Smith. Date: July 5. Location: Benkelman, NE"
http://www.weatherstock.com/tornadocat3.html has some great
shots of storms - some are digitally enhanced (check out T-48 -
nice photo)
http://members.shaw.ca/davecarlsen/jul1104pics.html
And for more storm pictures than you could ever look at in a
month -
http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/index.html
Includes US storms as well. Great site.
--
TeaLady (mari)
"I keep telling you, chew with your mouth closed!" Kell the
coach offers advice on keeping that elusive prey caught.
Lara
> >and Bunbury information at -
> >http://www.bunburyonline.com
>
> "Shops are normally open 8.30am-5.30pm Monday to Friday and 8.30am-5.00pm
> Saturdays with late night shopping until 9pm on Thursday."
>
> I hesitate to start a subthread even more boring than highway naming, but
> is this usual in other communities? Little shops where I live have that
> kind of schedule, but most regular stores (grocery, clothing, department
> stores) where I live are open something like 10am to 9pm Monday through
> Friday, and maybe 12 to 5 on Sundays.
Large shops in WA are not allowed to open late nights or Sundays, except
under certain restrictions (limited designated tourist areas and
Thursday nights). A referendum to recommend deregulation of retail
trading hours was recently soundly defeated in a State general election.
<http://www.propertyoz.com.au/scca/HTML%20Pages/Issues%20pages/Trading%2
0hours.htm>
This is a very BORPable offence locally.
Lara
dimestore
evidence that the photographer is
in Australia. I really can't see how anybody could think these were taken
in the U.S.. It looks a little like Hawaii, maybe, but given the other clues
on the site there is no reason to think that it isn't Australia.
There is one photo of a kid in a soccer jersey with an ad for Slattery &
Acquroff staircases. The phone number
is for their location at 7 Edgecombe Crt, Moorabbin Victoria, 3189
Australia. Many of the photos
have very Aussie titles, and there are other Australian clues here and
there.
Bunbury
http://western-australia.blogspot.com
and information on Bunbury and the surrounding areas at -
http://www.bunburyonline.com
Paul Tomblin
>Did any of you check out the other photos on the site? There is substantial
>evidence that the photographer is
>in Australia. I really can't see how anybody could think these were taken
The "site" belongs to Lara, the original poster. She just took the
pictures that are circulating via email and put them on her site so that
we could look at them.
--
Paul Tomblin <ptom...@xcski.com> http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Q: Do you know what the death rate around here is?
A: One per person.
Donna Richoux
> Did any of you check out the other photos on the site? There is substantial
> evidence that the photographer is
that the website maker is
> in Australia. I really can't see how anybody could think these were taken
> in the U.S.. It looks a little like Hawaii, maybe, but given the other clues
> on the site there is no reason to think that it isn't Australia.
> There is one photo of a kid in a soccer jersey with an ad for Slattery &
> Acquroff staircases. The phone number
[snip]
Lara, next time I'm afraid you're gonna hafta say, in words of one
syllable, "I have put these pix at my web site so that the rest of you
can look at them." The page itself clearly doesn't give any clues.
Nice kid and red-haired bearded chap.
--
Donna "Mrs. Murphy's Law" Richoux
Lara
> Lara, next time I'm afraid you're gonna hafta say, in words of one
> syllable, "I have put these pix at my web site so that the rest of you
> can look at them."
I thought I had, and that dimestore just couldn't find his own Keywords
header. The email address is a dead giveaway, dontcha think?
> Nice kid and red-haired bearded chap.
I think so.
Lara "not here for the spoon feeding" H
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Lara wrote:
> As you Aussies probably know, we had a big storm and several "mini
> tornadoes" rip through the southern Perth suburbs and the Southwest
two
> days ago. This isn't usually tornado country, and there was a lot of
> property destruction, a couple of cranes tipped over, a school was
> destroyed, but happily no-one appears to have been killed.
>
> Now circulating by forwarded email is a set of photographs purporting
to
> be of the storm near Bunbury in the southwest. The subject line is
"FW:
> Photos of storm near Bunbury " and the text reads "you'd swear these
> were taken in america's mid west / tornado belt..."
>
> secondly, the tornado is reported to have hit before sunrise. Does
> anyone recognise these photos?
>
> http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/
>
> --
> www.tafkac.org
> www.ozclothnappies.org
sloopy
were actually takin in Iowa, USA, in 2004. They are featured on the
Extreme Instability website, at:
http://extremeinstability.com/2004photos.htm
Sloopy
Donna Richoux
> The photos of the storm purporting to be in Bunbury, Western Australia,
> were actually takin in Iowa, USA, in 2004. They are featured on the
> Extreme Instability website, at:
>
> http://extremeinstability.com/2004photos.htm
>
Beautiful. Can you tell us how you found the site?
--
Donna "twisted sister" Richoux
Derek Lyons
>Firstly, this doesn't look like any Bunbury I'm familiar with - and
>secondly, the tornado is reported to have hit before sunrise. Does
>anyone recognise these photos?
>
>http://www.waawa.cx/files/storm/
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3842331/?GT1=6542 Click on 'May 12-19', then
image #4.
D.
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Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
grey...@gmaildo.ttocom
> JoAnne Schmitz <jsch...@qis.net> wrote:
>
>> >and Bunbury information at -
>> >http://www.bunburyonline.com
>>
>> "Shops are normally open 8.30am-5.30pm Monday to Friday and 8.30am-5.00pm
>> Saturdays with late night shopping until 9pm on Thursday."
>>
>> I hesitate to start a subthread even more boring than highway naming, but
>> is this usual in other communities? Little shops where I live have that
>> kind of schedule, but most regular stores (grocery, clothing, department
>> stores) where I live are open something like 10am to 9pm Monday through
>> Friday, and maybe 12 to 5 on Sundays.
>
> Large shops in WA are not allowed to open late nights or Sundays, except
> under certain restrictions (limited designated tourist areas and
> Thursday nights). A referendum to recommend deregulation of retail
> trading hours was recently soundly defeated in a State general election.
>
Two large stores within three miles of here (Eastern Ireland, The
Pale) are open 24 hours. EErie, specially when returning home at 3am
and seeing people wandering the aisles. One started that, the other
followed. Lot of people still use the small 24hours, they seem safer.
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greymaus
97.025% of statistics are wrong
Karen J. Cravens
news:98ho815qgp1c6nbmk...@4ax.com:
> I have never seen a twister with that wide a cloud top and that small
> a footprint, but that's just me. As for landscape, it could just as
> easily be rural Kansas, Iowa, or any of the flat states--but I don't
> think it's an Oklahoma tornado, unless it's the 5-5-99 one, and it's
> the wrong time of the day for that.
<deadpan>The one four days later was bigger.</deadpan>
If that's corn (and not milo), Iowa would be more likely. Also, all the
pictures I've seen of OKC (and Haysville of the same date) have more
structures in them, though that might just mean those were the ones the
news folks used. And of the May 9 critter, from what I saw the footprint
was pretty big... a mile wide when it hit town, wasn't it? I don't
remember seeing pictures of the Haysville one, just the aftermath (saw
that live, too... also maps of its path; had it kept going straight at
[highway number deleted] I'd be typing this from a different house...
--
Karen J. Cravens
simon
some dubious elements to the photos but yet the geography looks
correct. Dubious - the crops that are being grown in these photos are
unlike what gets grown in this area - another shot has a recently
cropped paddock and this area won't be cropped until later in the year.
And the photo with the house with the dark roof is distinctly
un-Australian. However, the general lay of the land could look like the
land to the south and east of Bunbury. I drove through this area the
day before yesterday. There's nothing dubious about the road signs or
about the appearance of the roads, signage, power poles, trees and
foliage. It's just the crops that are most doubtful.
Charles Wm. Dimmick
> Firstly, we are not 'Austrian' we are Australian
Well, yes and no.
There is a curious and quaint custom which has persisted for
thousands of years in which the inhabitants of one country
will have a different name for a neighboring country than
the name preferred by the actual inhabitants of the neighboring
country. Think of Deutchland, which is called Germany by some
people, des Alleman by others, and so forth. Now reflect that
AFU is neither Estados Unitas nor Austria. Therefore we
inhabitants of this etherial country of AFU feel free to use
what names we will for those countries which connect with us.
The inhabitants of such countries are, of course, free to
call us what they will in return, and many over the years have
taken full advantage of this freedom.
Charles
R H Draney
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"Charles Wm. Dimmick" <cdim...@snet.net> wrote in message
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The previous poster to whom the Rt. Hon. ChazWillum, the Anything but Dim,
Dammit, replies further confirms my long suspicion that the entire land of
Austria is an urban legend so deeply entrenched that it began to attract
tourists and that to satisfy their travel goals an entire area of Kansas
once known as Oz was devoted to a clever Disneyesque recreation of the
legend, a full Sydney Harbor along with a bridge (if London Bridge can be in
PaHeeNicks, can't the Sydney's Harbor be in Kansas) and the Grand Old Opry
House moved from Nashville.
Clearly, Cook's voyages are but confabulations, and the entire scheme,
hatched in a London coffee house, was uncovered when it was discovered that
one of the underwriters had commissioned the Dutchie songwriter Haydn to
compose a tune honoring the imaginary place. The song survives, adopted by
both Allemans and Anglicans. As for the convicts "transported" there, a
grand swindle perpetrated by greedy shipowners who took the Crown's passage
money and dumped the transportees on sand bars in the Channel where most
became snacks for French lobsters and inspired the dish Homard en croute
Austrienne, the taste of which incited the urban poor to wreak its vengeance
on a poor Australian princess rendered helpless by the flight of the Swiss
Guards, six months in arrears on their pay and denied consortium with
peasant girls with plump poitrines come to Paris to seek their fortunes as
demimondaines.
Two large Jackalope breeding operations in Eastern Colorado were shifted to
the cross-breeding of "'roos", a quaint genetic steroid-pumped dehorned
misfortune of the mating of a jackalope with a possum. The other critters
supposedly resident in the faraway land are but clever clones from the vet
labs of Manhattan (KSU not NYC).
As for the "natives", Gulliverable and gullible, they are but Kansans in
drag as it were, stiffened by a tutorial from the Defense Language School,
one side of their hat brims pinned up to level their heads so that the snuff
drips equally from both of their mouths' corners.
TM "Balls on the Barby' and a shrimp in my shorts" Oliver
Hatunen
It's not, you know. It's hundreds of kilometers away. Another
kilometer and it would be in California.
************* DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@cox.net) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Karen J. Cravens
news:kcHke.135236$hu5....@tornado.texas.rr.com:
> Clearly, Cook's voyages are but confabulations, and the entire scheme,
That need not be so:
http://www.wichitafestivals.com/events/wrf/history.html
Unfortunately, there's no good picture of the Schooner... there's one pic
behind the Schoonermates, but you can't see the sails nor the wheels.
--
Karen J. Cravens
R H Draney
I was going to correct TMO, y'know, and tell him London Bridge is in Las Vegas,
and is where they film all the "Girls Gone Wild" videos...but at any rate I
can't let the paragraph above go without pointing out that Randy Newman's
already suggested turning the land of Dame Edna into an amusement park....
R H "they got surfin' too" Draney
Kevin D. Quitt
>97.025% of statistics are wrong
Fascinating I wonder what the overlap is.
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Kevin D. Quitt Ke...@Quitt.net
96.37% of all statistics are made up
Ad absurdum per aspera
> certainly looks like there are oncoming headlights in the left lane,
> rather than in the right lane as I would expect in Austria. There's a
> road sign visible in one of the other photos, but I couldn't make out
> enough detail in it.
The pictures are very light on such evidence indeed. would've
guessed that a picture of tornado weather in spectacular lighting
conditions would have about half a dozen "chaser" vehicles in it, but
maybe that's just in the US. Or maybe the unnamed photographer, who is
obviously very talented and took a lot of trouble to compose his shots
just so, cropped out extraneous detail to concentrate on the subject.
Anyway, although certain parts of the US are most stereotypically
associated with tornadoes,* and have combinations of climate and
geography that naturally lend themselves to routinely producing large
and numerous tornadoes, such storms can occur in many places when
conditions are right -- definitely including some parts of Australia.
The Australian government's Bureau of Meteorology website has a number
of tornado pictures and descriptions of their effects.
Another way to vet these pictures is to look for news stories, since a
storm of that size could be pretty damaging even without tornadoes.
Indeed, it appears (from a cursory Web search about a part of the world
I've never been to) that Bunbury, Western Australia, was struck by a
damaging tornado on 16 May 2005. The Bureau of Meteorology's monthly
significant-weather summary is only up to March but might also be
expected to confirm or cast aspersions upon this.
http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigwmenu.shtml
Cheers,
--Joe
* I believe it was the late Ted Fujita, a titan of severe-weather
studies and co-inventor of the Fujita-Pearson scale (the Richter scale
of tornadoes), who observed that the nation struck by the most
tornadoes per square mile is... England! Of course, I wonder if he was
being a little knowingly droll there, knowing full well that the US is
a far bigger place and most of it seldom gets tornadoes. Comparing the
parts of the US that are particularly known for them might yield a much
different figure (one pretty good-sized metropolitan area, Oklahoma
City, has in its history gotten more than 100 all by itself.)
Barbara Needham
where the pictures came from???
??
??
Lon
> On 21 May 2005 21:26:43 GMT, grey...@gmaildo.ttocom wrote:
>
>
>>97.025% of statistics are wrong
>
>
> Fascinating I wonder what the overlap is.
The overlap is that little area where one sorta, well,
overlaps the other.
Lon "...surprised..." Stowell
Lon
Fairly near to Auckland then, right?
Charles Wm. Dimmick
Which isn't all that far from Ontario.
Charles
danny burstein
>>>
>>> It's not, you know. It's hundreds of kilometers away. Another
>>> kilometer and it would be in California.
>>
>> Fairly near to Auckland then, right?
>>
>Which isn't all that far from Ontario.
Which is around the corner from Perth.
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Hatunen
Hatunen
Ontario is a good 500 miles from Auckland.
Lizz Holmans
<dan...@panix.com> wrote:
>In <jPvle.2077$uu....@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> "Charles Wm. Dimmick" <cdim...@snet.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>> It's not, you know. It's hundreds of kilometers away. Another
>>>> kilometer and it would be in California.
>>>
>>> Fairly near to Auckland then, right?
>>>
>>Which isn't all that far from Ontario.
>
>Which is around the corner from Perth.
Everything points to Perth eventually.
Lizz 'and we are all a-Lon' Holmans
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I was too far out all my life
Ray Heindl
> In <jPvle.2077$uu....@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> "Charles Wm.
> Dimmick" <cdim...@snet.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>> It's not, you know. It's hundreds of kilometers away. Another
>>>> kilometer and it would be in California.
>>>
>>> Fairly near to Auckland then, right?
>>>
>>Which isn't all that far from Ontario.
>
> Which is around the corner from Perth.
I guess it's a small world, after all.
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Ray Heindl
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David DeLaney
>"Charles Wm. Dimmick" <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>>Lon wrote:
>>> Hatunen proclaimed:
>>>> It's not, you know. It's hundreds of kilometers away. Another
>>>> kilometer and it would be in California.
>>>
>>> Fairly near to Auckland then, right?
>>>
>>Which isn't all that far from Ontario.
>
>Ontario is a good 500 miles from Auckland.
Where do you end up if you go a bad 500 miles instead?
Dave "lon's chaney on" DeLaney
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Burroughs Guy
> >Ontario is a good 500 miles from Auckland.
>
> Where do you end up if you go a bad 500 miles instead?
If it takes you 500 miles to get from Auckland to Ontario that's
pretty bad. Yahoo says it's half that:
http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?csz=Auckland+CA&tcsz=ontario+ca
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Lon
> David DeLaney wrote:
>
>
>>>Ontario is a good 500 miles from Auckland.
>>
>>Where do you end up if you go a bad 500 miles instead?
>
>
> If it takes you 500 miles to get from Auckland to Ontario that's
> pretty bad. Yahoo says it's half that:
> http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?csz=Auckland+CA&tcsz=ontario+ca
>
I believe that Yahoo has a disclaimer that their distances do
not consider the extra footage caused by all the potholes, plus
they always forget to include the extra distance caused by the
Tehachapi Loop on north-south routes.