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wendyland

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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I had a weird incident happen several months ago. I was driving down this
road on my way home from work. I remember looking over to my left at a stop
light and seeing Venture. I looked to my right and saw a pool hall. I
remember thinking to myself that my boyfriend and I should shoot some pool
soon. Then the light turned green and I kept driving. I was about 1/2 a
mile from where I would turn right. I guess I was in deep thought or
blanked out because the next thing I knew I was on a parallel street a block
over. It was the street that was on the other side of Venture. But, I was
turning right onto the street I was suppose to turn right on. I had no idea
how I got to this other street. I even went back to the spot that I last
remembered and there were no roads that would have taken me over to that
other street. I still can't figure this out. I wasn't watching the time,
so I don't know if there was any time lapse.
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Wendy
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When Gary told me he had found Jesus, I thought, Yahoo!
We're rich! But it turned out to be something different.
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Robert Harvey

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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In article <qAd12.2665$112...@news3.ispnews.com>,
autu...@springnet1.com (wendyland) wrote:

> I had a weird incident happen several months ago. I was driving down

> this road on my way home from work. ..... I had no idea how I got
> to this other street....
When I used to commute from Lincolnshire to Harlow (about 160 miles) I
would often arrive at a town with no memory of passing through
intermediate towns. I even once found myself entering a town from the
south that I was supposed to enter from the north.

I think there's some sort of autopilot in the brain when we are deep in
thought, and it just drives safely but without purpose. There _must_ be
an ability like this - how else can we listen to some deep discussion on
the radio, or explain eternity to a 6 year old while we are driving?

I know it can be unsettling, but I don't think it's sinister - just an
example of how wonderful the brain/mind/soul/consciousness is.

Why not cross-post to sci.psychology?
Bob

Shadowtaster .. the grey master

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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In article <F292n...@cix.compulink.co.uk>, Robert Harvey <bobharvey@ci
x.compulink.co.uk> scibed their thoughts in this friendly manner

this is extremely dangerous...

i have experienced it myself.. one time on a five hour journey i
looked at mt watch soonafter setting out.. then rememebr looking again a
few seconds later and found i had lost four hours... onlt yo realise i
was almost at my destination.. i have no idea how i travelled the250
miles..

this would be good ammo for an abduction theroy but unfortunatly i was
in a vehicle with several other people.. who clearly rememebr the whole
journey!!! eve nspeaking to me and having me reply!!!


had i been alone i would have been wondering how many pedestrians i
had mown down!!

Vince...
--
it is my prerogative to be daft, so i will!

Jennifer

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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Shadowtaster .. the grey master wrote:
>
>
> this is extremely dangerous...
>
> i have experienced it myself.. one time on a five hour journey i
> looked at mt watch soonafter setting out.. then rememebr looking again a
> few seconds later and found i had lost four hours... onlt yo realise i
> was almost at my destination.. i have no idea how i travelled the250
> miles..
>
> this would be good ammo for an abduction theroy but unfortunatly i was
> in a vehicle with several other people.. who clearly rememebr the whole
> journey!!! eve nspeaking to me and having me reply!!!
>
> had i been alone i would have been wondering how many pedestrians i
> had mown down!!
>
> Vince...
> --
> it is my prerogative to be daft, so i will!


Oddly enough I used to have that same experience on a regular basis. At
the time I was living about 30 minutes away from work and I'd say about
75 percent of the time I would arrive at work without remembering the
entire drive in. It's not road hypnosis, but something similar... there
is a name for it, but for the life of me I can't remember what. I saw a
news-story on it a few years ago --- they gave several examples where
things like this happen. It's almost as if your conscious but on
autopilot --- one part of the brain keeping you and the pedestrians safe
(o.k., well, RELATIVELY safe), the other part of the brain is in deep
thought.

But, then again, I could be remembering wrong or, even worse, I've just
"thought" I was driving but had actually been abducted... oh great,
there goes my morning.
--
Jennifer (Take the 5s out to email...)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"So dance - let it whirl and let it spin - cause it makes no sense - and
your not going to win - dance - cast the spirits out - bring on back the
living and let it out - let it out" Susan McKeown

Kat

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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I work as a hypnotherapist and we use this phenomenon to explain the natural
state of hypnosis that we all have experienced at one time or another.

Kat

wendyland wrote in message ...


>I had a weird incident happen several months ago. I was driving down this

>road on my way home from work. I remember looking over to my left at a
stop
>light and seeing Venture. I looked to my right and saw a pool hall. I
>remember thinking to myself that my boyfriend and I should shoot some pool
>soon. Then the light turned green and I kept driving. I was about 1/2 a
>mile from where I would turn right. I guess I was in deep thought or
>blanked out because the next thing I knew I was on a parallel street a
block
>over. It was the street that was on the other side of Venture. But, I was

>turning right onto the street I was suppose to turn right on. I had no
idea

Jamie

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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I had that happen to me one time when I was driving to my parents house.
It was late and I had worked all day. I remember leaving Boston and the
next thing I was about 10 towns further than I remember.

Jamie

A transplanted New Englander.

lavi...@mindspring.com

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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Kat wrote:
>
> I work as a hypnotherapist and we use this phenomenon to explain the natural
> state of hypnosis that we all have experienced at one time or another.
>
> Kat

I'd be interested to know if this occurs more often during times of
stress or lack of sleep. I've had this happen on a number of
occassions, but have never been able to figure out why it happens. Kat,
I have a few other questions about hypnotherapy and relaxation
techniques. Do you mind if I email you?

La V.
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TOM ELEVEN

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Nov 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/12/98
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In article <pQyA0IBZ...@pagan1.demon.co.uk>, "Shadowtaster .. the grey
master" <UFOm...@yahoo.com> writes:

>
> this would be good ammo for an abduction theroy but unfortunatly i was
>in a vehicle with several other people.. who clearly rememebr the whole
>journey!!! eve nspeaking to me and having me reply!!!
>
>
>had i been alone i would have been wondering how many pedestrians i
>had mown down!!
>
>Vince...

I dont think that this state of mind is dangerous. I often think and "observe"
the mind when I drive. One of my hobbies is mapping the data processing
methods of the brain.
I have often had these "memory lapses', especially on familiar trips.
Sometimes I even catch myself "half in / half out" of the state and try to
observe what is happening.
Another part of our brain takes over the "routine" chores of the mind. It
has intellegence too, and can handel most tasks (including driving) once it is
"trained". This is why we can talk and think of other things when driving a
car. In our early stages of learning to drive, the area of the brain was NOT
trained, so we had to pay a LOT more attention to what we were doing.
Once the "driving program" finally installs itself, it may often take over
entirely, leaving us with NO memory of certian parts of the trip. Fortunately,
I have noticed that it will IMMEDIATELY jerk us back to awareness if a traffic
situation comes up that it cannot handle. I remember this happening when a
vehicle suddenly pulls out and stops in front of me and other such events.
Later I realize that I did not remember the driving before the event.
Such experiences have reassured me that even if we cant remember when we are
on "autopilot", it will wake us up in time should an unexpected circumstance
occur.
TOM
Thomas M. Ray/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
tome...@aol.com


NAIRN J J

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Nov 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/12/98
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TOM ELEVEN (tome...@aol.com) wrote:
: I dont think that this state of mind is dangerous. I often think and "observe"

: the mind when I drive. One of my hobbies is mapping the data processing
: methods of the brain.
: Such experiences have reassured me that even if we cant remember when we are

: on "autopilot", it will wake us up in time should an unexpected circumstance
: occur.
: TOM
: Thomas M. Ray/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

Hi Tom,
I can tell you from personal experience that this state of mind
"autopilot" can be very dangerous when operating machinery (cars).
Sure we may snap out of it,but not always in time to avoid an accident.
I think mapping the data processes of the mind sounds very interesting
but better practiced when there is no chance of injuring yourself or
others.
Not a criticism,just another view.
Jeff


wendyland

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Nov 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/12/98
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This wasn't an auto pilot episode. I've had those before and this was
different. I was aware of where I was going. I only had a block to the
street I was supposed to turn on and suddenly I was on a different street.
I've gone back and there is no way to get to that other road from the road
that I was on. So, it wasn't really that I just gapped out and was down the
street past my exit. I was actually on another road parallel to the one I
was on. I don't know how to describe how strange it was.

Wendy

C. Patterson

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Nov 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/12/98
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Not always is it dangerous, I have had it happen on a busy freeway where I
had to change lanes and my speed to adjust to the flow of traffic. It
happens more often if you have some other distraction, like playing the
radio or talking to others in the car.

NAIRN J J wrote in message <72dl78$q95$1...@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au>...

meaghan

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Nov 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/13/98
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C. Patterson wrote:
>
> Not always is it dangerous, I have had it happen on a busy freeway where I
> had to change lanes and my speed to adjust to the flow of traffic. It
> happens more often if you have some other distraction, like playing the
> radio or talking to others in the car.

I agree- I think it's because of a distraction..
My ex-bf is a musician. Every single time we got into his car and
rush-hour traffic, I'd end up having to snap off the radio (and snap him
out of his "dream").
He used to get mad and deny that he was day dreaming, even after I
almost jumped outta my seat/screaming, trying to get him to step on the
brakes!!
-this was slow moving traffic, folks.
I think some people just can't handle the distractions that easily..

Meaghan
-who HATES commuting in silence

NAIRN J J

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Nov 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/13/98
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meaghan (mea...@teleport.com) wrote:

: C. Patterson wrote:
: > Not always is it dangerous, I have had it happen on a busy freeway where I
: > had to change lanes and my speed to adjust to the flow of traffic. It
: > happens more often if you have some other distraction, like playing the
: > radio or talking to others in the car.

Exactly.It's not always dangerous but "can" be.
What with the way roads, traffic,& roadrage are today it's not good
practice to increase your chance of an accident by daydreaming(as meaghan
correctly calls it).Maybe a lounge chair is a better place for this!!

Cheers
Jeff

: I agree- I think it's because of a distraction..

A. Campbell

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Nov 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/13/98
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In college, when my bf/future husband broke up with me I headed for
home, about an hour away....I remember getting in the car and crossing
the railroad tracks heading out of town and then "coming to" at my
turnoff about 50 miles down the road. I thought I was slowing down for
the only 4 way stop between the 2 towns, but when I came to I was
slowing down for my turnoff!! Scary.
annie
:)


In article <3649D1...@yahoo.com>, j5g5t...@yahoo.com says...


>
>Shadowtaster .. the grey master wrote:
>>
>>
>> this is extremely dangerous...
>>
>> i have experienced it myself.. one time on a five hour journey i
>> looked at mt watch soonafter setting out.. then rememebr looking
again a
>> few seconds later and found i had lost four hours... onlt yo
realise i
>> was almost at my destination.. i have no idea how i travelled
the250
>> miles..
>>

>> this would be good ammo for an abduction theroy but unfortunatly i
was
>> in a vehicle with several other people.. who clearly rememebr the
whole
>> journey!!! eve nspeaking to me and having me reply!!!
>>
>> had i been alone i would have been wondering how many pedestrians
i
>> had mown down!!
>>
>> Vince...

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back."


clarissa

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Nov 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/14/98
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In article <3649D1...@yahoo.com>, Jennifer <j5g5t...@yahoo.com>
writes

>
>Oddly enough I used to have that same experience on a regular basis. At
>the time I was living about 30 minutes away from work and I'd say about
>75 percent of the time I would arrive at work without remembering the
>entire drive in. It's not road hypnosis, but something similar... there
>is a name for it, but for the life of me I can't remember what. I saw a
>news-story on it a few years ago --- they gave several examples where
>things like this happen. It's almost as if your conscious but on
>autopilot --- one part of the brain keeping you and the pedestrians safe
>(o.k., well, RELATIVELY safe), the other part of the brain is in deep
>thought.
>
>But, then again, I could be remembering wrong or, even worse, I've just
>"thought" I was driving but had actually been abducted... oh great,
>there goes my morning.

I had a similar thing happen to me. I was singing on my own on stage for
a school competition. As soon as I started the song, i had finished. I
remember singing a couple of notes, and that's it. I was really
embarassed cause i thought i must have sang really badly, but i ended up
winning (smug grin :)
--
clarissa

Sheryl

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Nov 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/14/98
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clarissa

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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In article <641-364...@newsd-104.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, Sheryl
<Sher...@webtv.net> writes
>Clarrisa...when I read your post, it reminded me of some of the things
>that I've read about people who have MPD (multiple personality
>disorder). If I'm not mistaken, I think the new term is "bipolar"? I'm
>not sure about that last statement however. When something is too much
>for the host personality to handle, they will "go under", or dissociate,
>and another personality will come out to handle the situation in that
>person's place.
>
>
>I'm not saying that that is what happened in YOUR case, but it certainly
>did bring it to mind for me, as I believe that there are far more
>dissociative people than we really recognize. The "blanking out" part
>that you mentioned is also very common in people with MPD.
>
>Sheryl
>
>
>
ok, now i'm scared!!
--
clarissa

CNJOHNSO77

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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Just to clarify, bipolar depression is depression where the sufferer swings
from very very high to very very low in a very very short period of time.
During the "high" times, the person can and usually does act reckless, or have
"delusions of grandeur."

MPD (multiple personality disorder) is where a person has more than one
personality in his/her mind. The personality can, and usually does, do things
normally, just with a different...well...personality than the main person.

DID (dissociative identity disorder) is what MPD is now referred to in the
psychiatric field, although I personally will maintain that it is something
different altogether. DID sufferers "blank out," that is, do things by rote
without actually having another personality step in for them. It's a lesser
form of MPD, if you will.

Hope that helps. (not that anyone asked!)

:)

-Cat


It's not ghosts I have the problem with; it's real live people.

SageMonk1

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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Wendy,
I have had those 'auto piolt' episodes too, in fact just last night I was
driving home from school & all of the sudden didn't recognize the road at all!
I finally passed a sign which was the exit before mine! But, you said yours
was different, ending up in a place where it was pretty much not possible to
get to from where you started from? That is strange!
Cat, thanks for defining bipolar & MPD (etc), saved me from doing it!
SageMonk

Dave Calam

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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clarissa wrote:

> If I'm not mistaken, I think the new term is "bipolar"?

I believe "bipolar" is used to describe what is commonly refered to as
"manic depression"; a condition in which the patient suffers from incredibly
quick, incredibly severe mood swings.

Dave Calam
:: ca...@bigfoot.com.nospam


clarissa

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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In article <72tbsd$1s...@dragon.sk.sympatico.ca>, Dave Calam
<ca...@bigfoot.com.nospam> writes
>clarissa wrote:

no i didn't :)

--
clarissa

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AmPwAx

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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I agree with you Tom. I live 35 to 40 miles form where I work, and I drive on
"auto pilot" a lot. I have noticed when something out of the ordinary happens
(simple as
a pedestrian walking along the side of the road), it snaps you back into focus.
I've driven half way to work, and not rememer how I got there. I don't like
driving like that, it's kind of scarey when you come to and see where you're
at, but one can't help it when the drive is long and boring. I think messing
with the radio and stuff
like that is much more dangerous. Then you're taking your eyes off the road,
but when your on "auto pilot", you're not taking your eyes off the road. I
would like to know how your brain does that, tho. The brain has always
facinated me too. I've never found anything to read about this, tho.
Bobbie:)

In article <19981111221829...@ngol08.aol.com>, tome...@aol.com
(TOM ELEVEN) writes:

>I dont think that this state of mind is dangerous. I often think and
>"observe"
>the mind when I drive. One of my hobbies is mapping the data processing
>methods of the brain.

> I have often had these "memory lapses', especially on familiar trips.
>Sometimes I even catch myself "half in / half out" of the state and try to
>observe what is happening.
> Another part of our brain takes over the "routine" chores of the mind. It
>has intellegence too, and can handel most tasks (including driving) once it
>is
>"trained". This is why we can talk and think of other things when driving a
>car. In our early stages of learning to drive, the area of the brain was NOT
>trained, so we had to pay a LOT more attention to what we were doing.
> Once the "driving program" finally installs itself, it may often take over
>entirely, leaving us with NO memory of certian parts of the trip.
>Fortunately,
>I have noticed that it will IMMEDIATELY jerk us back to awareness if a
>traffic
>situation comes up that it cannot handle. I remember this happening when a
>vehicle suddenly pulls out and stops in front of me and other such events.
>Later I realize that I did not remember the driving before the event.

> Such experiences have reassured me that even if we cant remember when we
>are
>on "autopilot", it will wake us up in time should an unexpected circumstance
>occur.
>TOM
>Thomas M. Ray/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

>tome...@aol.com
>
>

AmPwAx

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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This story reminded me of another episode I had about three or four years ago.
I was driving back home from the jr high school, where I'd taken my daughter,
because she'd missed the bus. On my way back I stoped at a stop sign and it
was like I had no idea where I was. There is/was a street sign there, staring
me right in the face, and I knew it looked familiar, but coudn't place where I
was.
I actually didn't know whether to turn right or left. There is/was a house
over in the field to my right (we live in the country) that looked familiar to
me also, but I couldn't remember where I'd seen it. No one was around, so I
got out of the car and by the time it took me to walk to the back end of the
car, I remembered exactly where I was and it all came back to me. It was only a
few seconds, I suppose, but was a really weird experience. I've never had
anything like that happen to me since. I think I had a brain "fart" or
something. I was under a lot of stress and depressioin at the time, my husband
had recentyly been cut from his job (that downsizing thing), and my own job
questionable. I've heard stress and depression can do stuff like that to you,
make you disfunctional and all. I've done the "auto pilot" thing too. It's
totally different and not at all related, I don't think.
Bobbie:)
>In article <TXv22.158$A94....@news13.ispnews.com>, "wendyland"

Joanne Cooley

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Someone once told me that this strange biological phenomena happens when
predominate use of the left side of the brain switches to the right (or vice
versa)... Very common during times of crisis and adjustment, and is just a
normal reaction your brain has when you are "switching gears"! :)

Joanne


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