As an aside, I have a I.T. application directory "annual" dating from
circa 1960 listing a variety of companies and their use if IT
equipment. Almost all of the companies no longer exist in their
original form. Many are shut down entirely*, others have been bought
out by bigger companies. Some once proud companies have gone into
bankruptcy.
I have an IBM ad for a "Camlock" company that made fasteners. I can't
find any mention of the company, but the fasteners remain in use as a
specific type of fastener used on airplanes.
Hmm, maybe using IT gear isn't such a good idea. <g>
*When I did an Internet search on a company, I found that some
company's main HQ is now abandoned and either a toxic waste site or an
historical site that people are trying to restore. Sad.
Out of curiousity, I also checked out some of the IT managers
mentioned. Most, as would be expected, have passed on--no privacy on
the Internet--most names were found unless the name was very common.
> As an aside, I have a I.T. application directory "annual" dating from
> circa 1960 listing a variety of companies and their use if IT
> equipment. Almost all of the companies no longer exist in their
> original form. Many are shut down entirely*, others have been bought
> out by bigger companies. Some once proud companies have gone into
> bankruptcy.
> I have an IBM ad for a "Camlock" company that made fasteners. I can't
> find any mention of the company, but the fasteners remain in use as a
> specific type of fastener used on airplanes.
> Hmm, maybe using IT gear isn't such a good idea. <g>
Centronics. Everyone used centronics ports long after the company went belly up.
<hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>I have an IBM ad for a "Camlock" company that made fasteners. I can't
>find any mention of the company, but the fasteners remain in use as a
>specific type of fastener used on airplanes.
www.camlock.com perhaps? I'm not quite sure why there would be an IBM ad for Camlock unless it was bragging about how IBM systems helped Camlock.
On Oct 8, 8:01 am, Peter Flass <Peter_Fl...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> > As an aside, I have a I.T. application directory "annual" dating from
> > circa 1960 listing a variety of companies and their use if IT
> > equipment.
> Would Bitsavers be interested?
Can they scan a bound volume? (Assuming I can find the book in my
'black hole'.)
Also, can they use old advertisements? Some are larger than 8.5 x
11".
> On Oct 8, 8:01 am, Peter Flass<Peter_Fl...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> As an aside, I have a I.T. application directory "annual" dating from
>>> circa 1960 listing a variety of companies and their use if IT
>>> equipment.
>> Would Bitsavers be interested?
> Can they scan a bound volume? (Assuming I can find the book in my
> 'black hole'.)
I have a book scanner, but it is VERY time consuming to do so.
It would be better if someone else could take this on as my backlog
is pretty bad right now.
>> On Oct 8, 12:10 am, danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> wrote:
>> > New England Business Forms, perhaps? ALthoguh in looking
>> > them up now I see they've been bought up by >> > "Deluxe".http://www.nebs.comhttp://www.deluxe.com/
>> Standard Register was a large company.
>> As an aside, I have a I.T. application directory "annual" dating from
>> circa 1960 listing a variety of companies and their use if IT
>> equipment. Almost all of the companies no longer exist in their
>> original form. Many are shut down entirely*, others have been bought
>> out by bigger companies. Some once proud companies have gone into
>> bankruptcy.
>> I have an IBM ad for a "Camlock" company that made fasteners. I can't
>> find any mention of the company, but the fasteners remain in use as a
>> specific type of fastener used on airplanes.
>> Hmm, maybe using IT gear isn't such a good idea. <g>
>Centronics. Everyone used centronics ports long after the company went >belly up.
Still do, if your PC has a parallel printer port. :-)
And, I imagine that if you connected a real Centronics printer to a
PC, it would work just fine. Hmmm, have to try that some day.
> >> On Oct 8, 12:10 am, danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> wrote:
> >> > New England Business Forms, perhaps? ALthoguh in looking
> >> > them up now I see they've been bought up by > >> > "Deluxe".http://www.nebs.comhttp://www.deluxe.com/
> >> Standard Register was a large company.
> >> As an aside, I have a I.T. application directory "annual" dating from
> >> circa 1960 listing a variety of companies and their use if IT
> >> equipment. Almost all of the companies no longer exist in their
> >> original form. Many are shut down entirely*, others have been bought
> >> out by bigger companies. Some once proud companies have gone into
> >> bankruptcy.
> >> I have an IBM ad for a "Camlock" company that made fasteners. I can't
> >> find any mention of the company, but the fasteners remain in use as a
> >> specific type of fastener used on airplanes.
> >> Hmm, maybe using IT gear isn't such a good idea. <g>
> >Centronics. Everyone used centronics ports long after the company went > >belly up.
> Still do, if your PC has a parallel printer port. :-)
> And, I imagine that if you connected a real Centronics printer to a
> PC, it would work just fine. Hmmm, have to try that some day.
> arargh
I for one haven't had a confuser with a parallel printer port in a decade.
And way back in the 1980s Centronics was long defunct.
I saw a presentation which showed how much money you could have made if you had bought stocks 20 years ago. They used the stocks of companies that were on the market today compared to their value 20 years ago, but they did not account for the companies that went under.
And I suppose some of the companies went through bankruptcy where the owners lost most if not all of their stake.
>>> On Oct 8, 12:10 am, danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> wrote:
>>> > New England Business Forms, perhaps? ALthoguh in looking
>>> > them up now I see they've been bought up by
>>> > "Deluxe".http://www.nebs.comhttp://www.deluxe.com/
>>> Standard Register was a large company.
>>> As an aside, I have a I.T. application directory "annual" dating from
>>> circa 1960 listing a variety of companies and their use if IT
>>> equipment. Almost all of the companies no longer exist in their
>>> original form. Many are shut down entirely*, others have been bought
>>> out by bigger companies. Some once proud companies have gone into
>>> bankruptcy.
>>> I have an IBM ad for a "Camlock" company that made fasteners. I can't
>>> find any mention of the company, but the fasteners remain in use as a
>>> specific type of fastener used on airplanes.
>>> Hmm, maybe using IT gear isn't such a good idea. <g>
>>Centronics. Everyone used centronics ports long after the company went
>>belly up.
> Still do, if your PC has a parallel printer port. :-)
> And, I imagine that if you connected a real Centronics printer to a
> PC, it would work just fine. Hmmm, have to try that some day.
ISTM that the PC would need a *driver* for the specific printer, even if there was a Centronic's port.
>> >> On Oct 8, 12:10 am, danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> wrote:
>> >> > New England Business Forms, perhaps? ALthoguh in looking
>> >> > them up now I see they've been bought up by >> >> > "Deluxe".http://www.nebs.comhttp://www.deluxe.com/
>> >> Standard Register was a large company.
>> >> As an aside, I have a I.T. application directory "annual" dating from
>> >> circa 1960 listing a variety of companies and their use if IT
>> >> equipment. Almost all of the companies no longer exist in their
>> >> original form. Many are shut down entirely*, others have been bought
>> >> out by bigger companies. Some once proud companies have gone into
>> >> bankruptcy.
>> >> I have an IBM ad for a "Camlock" company that made fasteners. I can't
>> >> find any mention of the company, but the fasteners remain in use as a
>> >> specific type of fastener used on airplanes.
>> >> Hmm, maybe using IT gear isn't such a good idea. <g>
>> >Centronics. Everyone used centronics ports long after the company went >> >belly up.
>> Still do, if your PC has a parallel printer port. :-)
>> And, I imagine that if you connected a real Centronics printer to a
>> PC, it would work just fine. Hmmm, have to try that some day.
>> arargh
> I for one haven't had a confuser with a parallel printer port in a > decade.
I have a computer with a parallel printer port. The printer port isn't
being used, and the computer has been demoted to gateway duty, but it's
still working.
"Charles Richmond" <numer...@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
> ISTM that the PC would need a *driver* for the specific printer, even if > there was a Centronic's port.
If the printer talks ASCII, PCL, ESC-P or PostScript then a generic
driver will do well enough. When I used printers with centronics sockets
they usually talked at least one of those if you got the DIP switches right.
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>>> On Oct 8, 12:10 am, danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> wrote:
>>> > New England Business Forms, perhaps? ALthoguh in looking
>>> > them up now I see they've been bought up by >>> > "Deluxe".http://www.nebs.comhttp://www.deluxe.com/
>>> Standard Register was a large company.
>>> As an aside, I have a I.T. application directory "annual" dating from
>>> circa 1960 listing a variety of companies and their use if IT
>>> equipment. Almost all of the companies no longer exist in their
>>> original form. Many are shut down entirely*, others have been bought
>>> out by bigger companies. Some once proud companies have gone into
>>> bankruptcy.
>>> I have an IBM ad for a "Camlock" company that made fasteners. I can't
>>> find any mention of the company, but the fasteners remain in use as a
>>> specific type of fastener used on airplanes.
>>> Hmm, maybe using IT gear isn't such a good idea. <g>
>>Centronics. Everyone used centronics ports long after the company went >>belly up.
>Still do, if your PC has a parallel printer port. :-)
>And, I imagine that if you connected a real Centronics printer to a
>PC, it would work just fine. Hmmm, have to try that some day.
And if your PC only has USB ports for devices other than video, you
can get a USB to Centraonics cable for a rediculous amount of money.
I've seen them for as much as 50 dollars with a 6 foot cable between
the connectors.
.
JimP.
-- Brushing aside the thorns so I can see the stars.
http://www.linuxgazette.net/ Linux Gazette
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> And if your PC only has USB ports for devices other than video, you
> can get a USB to Centraonics cable for a rediculous amount of money.
> I've seen them for as much as 50 dollars with a 6 foot cable between
> the connectors.
> .
> JimP.
Crikey! The local place has USB/Parallel converters for about $12 with
a 1.5m cable ... the USB/Serial converters are even cheaper -- I bought
one for seven bucks to hook to the console port of my last "real"
computer.
Patrick Scheible <k...@zipcon.net> writes:
> Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> writes:
>> I for one haven't had a confuser with a parallel printer port in a >> decade.
> I have a computer with a parallel printer port. The printer port isn't
> being used, and the computer has been demoted to gateway duty, but it's
> still working.
Gee, all four of my computers have parallel ports. But what I use is a
wireless router, also with a parallel port, connected to a Brother
laser printer with a Centronics port. All the computers -- all Linux
-- convert everything to Postscript and talk to the router. The router
talks to the printer which understands Postscript natively.
I actually blew 30 bucks on a USB-to-Centronics cable because I know
that when the router dies, I'll never find another with a parallel
port. Only found a replacement 6 years ago after groveling through
eBay and getting it hand-carried back from the US. With any luck, the
printer and router will live forever and I'll never need the adapter
cable. Without luck, the printer will die and I'll have to replace the
router anyhow.
>>> I for one haven't had a confuser with a parallel printer port in a
>>> decade.
>> I have a computer with a parallel printer port. The printer port isn't
>> being used, and the computer has been demoted to gateway duty, but it's
>> still working.
> Gee, all four of my computers have parallel ports. But what I use is a
> wireless router, also with a parallel port, connected to a Brother
> laser printer with a Centronics port. All the computers -- all Linux
> -- convert everything to Postscript and talk to the router. The router
> talks to the printer which understands Postscript natively.
> I actually blew 30 bucks on a USB-to-Centronics cable because I know
> that when the router dies, I'll never find another with a parallel
> port. Only found a replacement 6 years ago after groveling through
> eBay and getting it hand-carried back from the US. With any luck, the
> printer and router will live forever and I'll never need the adapter
> cable. Without luck, the printer will die and I'll have to replace the
> router anyhow.
>>>> On Oct 8, 12:10 am, danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>> > New England Business Forms, perhaps? ALthoguh in looking
>>>> > them up now I see they've been bought up by
>>>> > "Deluxe".http://www.nebs.comhttp://www.deluxe.com/
>>>> Standard Register was a large company.
>>>> As an aside, I have a I.T. application directory "annual" dating from
>>>> circa 1960 listing a variety of companies and their use if IT
>>>> equipment. Almost all of the companies no longer exist in their
>>>> original form. Many are shut down entirely*, others have been bought
>>>> out by bigger companies. Some once proud companies have gone into
>>>> bankruptcy.
>>>> I have an IBM ad for a "Camlock" company that made fasteners. I can't
>>>> find any mention of the company, but the fasteners remain in use as a
>>>> specific type of fastener used on airplanes.
>>>> Hmm, maybe using IT gear isn't such a good idea. <g>
>>>Centronics. Everyone used centronics ports long after the company went
>>>belly up.
>>Still do, if your PC has a parallel printer port. :-)
>>And, I imagine that if you connected a real Centronics printer to a
>>PC, it would work just fine. Hmmm, have to try that some day.
> And if your PC only has USB ports for devices other than video, you
> can get a USB to Centraonics cable for a rediculous amount of money.
> I've seen them for as much as 50 dollars with a 6 foot cable between
> the connectors.
Jim, do they have a USB to 20 ma current loop adapter... so one can use an *old* teletype??? ;-)
> I actually blew 30 bucks on a USB-to-Centronics cable because I know
> that when the router dies, I'll never find another with a parallel
> port. Only found a replacement 6 years ago after groveling through
> eBay and getting it hand-carried back from the US. With any luck, the
> printer and router will live forever and I'll never need the adapter
> cable. Without luck, the printer will die and I'll have to replace the
> router anyhow.
So Mike, under which "timeline" are you going to *need* the USB-to Centronics adapter??? Eh??? ;-)
What percentage would you give the possibility of actually needing the converter???
>>>> I for one haven't had a confuser with a parallel printer port in a
>>>> decade.
>>> I have a computer with a parallel printer port. The printer port isn't
>>> being used, and the computer has been demoted to gateway duty, but it's
>>> still working.
>> Gee, all four of my computers have parallel ports. But what I use is a
>> wireless router, also with a parallel port, connected to a Brother
>> laser printer with a Centronics port. All the computers -- all Linux
>> -- convert everything to Postscript and talk to the router. The router
>> talks to the printer which understands Postscript natively.
>> I actually blew 30 bucks on a USB-to-Centronics cable because I know
>> that when the router dies, I'll never find another with a parallel
>> port. Only found a replacement 6 years ago after groveling through
>> eBay and getting it hand-carried back from the US. With any luck, the
>> printer and router will live forever and I'll never need the adapter
>> cable. Without luck, the printer will die and I'll have to replace the
>> router anyhow.
> I've got a 486 and 386 with parallel ports. ;-)
BAH, what you have are *not* home "computers"... you now run a *museum*!!! ;-) You need a stuffed replica of yourself to add to the museum... with a sign that says "Secritarius Oldtimus"... ;-)
"Charles Richmond" <numer...@aquaporin4.com> writes:
> Jim, do they have a USB to 20 ma current loop adapter... so one can
> use an *old* teletype??? ;-)
That shouldn't be TOO hard to just build - When USB first came out, our
vendor sent us a bunch of the chips they'd developed for it - and the
USB-Serial chip had TTL-level on the serial side, so with just a few
resistors and a couple of optos you could have a nice fully-isolated CL
interface. Even if the chip has an integral charge pump and
RS-232-compatible drivers, the BOM only adds a diode or two and a little
cleverness.
"Charles Richmond" <numer...@aquaporin4.com> writes:
>"JimP." <pongbill...@cableone.net> wrote in message
>Jim, do they have a USB to 20 ma current loop adapter... so one can use an >*old* teletype??? ;-)
RS232C can be converted electrically to 20ma current loop with a couple of
discrete components. I don't recall the details, but we built a bunch of
these in the 80's.
<numer...@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>"JimP." <pongbill...@cableone.net> wrote in message >news:e2ae78huo0j7he104583t4lbtq3vc8oa2p@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:52:24 -0500,
>> ArarghMail208NOS...@NOT.AT.Arargh.com wrote:
>>>On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:55:59 -0400, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 8, 12:10 am, danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>> > New England Business Forms, perhaps? ALthoguh in looking
>>>>> > them up now I see they've been bought up by
>>>>> > "Deluxe".http://www.nebs.comhttp://www.deluxe.com/
>>>>> Standard Register was a large company.
>>>>> As an aside, I have a I.T. application directory "annual" dating from
>>>>> circa 1960 listing a variety of companies and their use if IT
>>>>> equipment. Almost all of the companies no longer exist in their
>>>>> original form. Many are shut down entirely*, others have been bought
>>>>> out by bigger companies. Some once proud companies have gone into
>>>>> bankruptcy.
>>>>> I have an IBM ad for a "Camlock" company that made fasteners. I can't
>>>>> find any mention of the company, but the fasteners remain in use as a
>>>>> specific type of fastener used on airplanes.
>>>>> Hmm, maybe using IT gear isn't such a good idea. <g>
>>>>Centronics. Everyone used centronics ports long after the company went
>>>>belly up.
>>>Still do, if your PC has a parallel printer port. :-)
>>>And, I imagine that if you connected a real Centronics printer to a
>>>PC, it would work just fine. Hmmm, have to try that some day.
>> And if your PC only has USB ports for devices other than video, you
>> can get a USB to Centraonics cable for a rediculous amount of money.
>> I've seen them for as much as 50 dollars with a 6 foot cable between
>> the connectors.
>Jim, do they have a USB to 20 ma current loop adapter... so one can use an >*old* teletype??? ;-)
Haven't seen one of those recently. I did see a single pen plotter
back about 1990. It would raise the pen holder when it was set to
change colors.
.
JimP.
-- Brushing aside the thorns so I can see the stars.
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:14:25 +0200, lawre...@gandi.cluon.com wrote:
>JimP. <pongbill...@cableone.net> writes:
>> And if your PC only has USB ports for devices other than video, you
>> can get a USB to Centraonics cable for a rediculous amount of money.
>> I've seen them for as much as 50 dollars with a 6 foot cable between
>> the connectors.
>> .
>> JimP.
>Crikey! The local place has USB/Parallel converters for about $12 with
>a 1.5m cable ... the USB/Serial converters are even cheaper -- I bought
>one for seven bucks to hook to the console port of my last "real"
>computer.
On Oct 12, 3:23 pm, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
> "Charles Richmond" <numer...@aquaporin4.com> writes:
> >"JimP." <pongbill...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> >Jim, do they have a USB to 20 ma current loop adapter... so one can use an
> >*old* teletype??? ;-)
> RS232C can be converted electrically to 20ma current loop with a couple of
> discrete components. I don't recall the details, but we built a bunch of
> these in the 80's.
Wasn't there a company "black box" that made converters for such
esoteric things?
