Boeings New Dreamliner Ready For Maiden Voyage
Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Boeings New Dreamliner Ready For Maiden Voyage
http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1799588/boeings_new_dreamliner_ready_for_maiden_voyage/index.html
the summer of '69 I was brought into boeing to help with fledging bcs
(boeing computer service) ... idea was bring most of boeing
dataprocessing into bcs so that it could be put on a profit/loss
accounting basis ... rather than expense basis (and least on paper)
... trying to change how dataprocessing was viewed in the
corporation. as part of that, bcs was going to be able to also sell
computer services outside the corporation (not just offering services to
internal users).
bcs was being done of corporate hdqtrs dataprocessing that had 360/30
for doing payroll. datacenter was expanded to fit in 360/67 (simplex).
that summer, the "gov. aerospace" division also moved the 360/67
mutliprocessor from huntsville to seattle.
huntsville had been using the 360/67s to run two copies of os/360 mvt13
(as two separate systems) ... with special hacks to use virtual memory
hardware (w/o paging). the issue was that mvt had some significant
problems with storage fragmentation for long running applications. the
major use of the machines were for (long running) channel attached 2250
graphics applications. the hack to mvt13 was to use virtual memory
hardware to overcome storage fragmentation ... being able to rearrange
non-contiguous "real storage" to appear contiguous (in virtual memory).
one of the challenges for bcs was having the person that had been
running the 360/30, take over renton and everett datacenters. renton
datacenter had more than a dozen 360/65s (i wasn't sure, everytime i
visited ... they pointed to pieces of 2-3 360/65s sitting in the halls
waiting to be installed, 360/65s were showing up faster than they could
be installed) ... that was in addition to at least one 360/75 and some
amount of non-IBM hardware.
i rented basement apartment from aircraft engineer that was working on
747 up in everett. 747 no. 3 was flying FAA certifications flts over the
skys of seattle that summer. the engineer mentioned that they were
having some work problems in everett and there was various kinds of
vandalism on the planes (some that would have had disastrous results if
they hadn't been caught).
It is 40yrs later ... lots of 747s are still flying ... and appears that
they will for some time ... and they are trying to come out with
787 (tempting to make some observation about it being 747+40).
I got to go thru some of the 747 orientation presentations given to
customers. One of the things that I remember was comments that 747 would
be carrying so many people, that 747s would always have minium of four
jetways at the gate (to get the people off and on).
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler
> one of the challenges for bcs was having the person that had been
> running the 360/30, take over renton and everett datacenters. renton
> datacenter had more than a dozen 360/65s (i wasn't sure, everytime i
> visited ... they pointed to pieces of 2-3 360/65s sitting in the halls
> waiting to be installed, 360/65s were showing up faster than they could
> be installed) ... that was in addition to at least one 360/75 and some
> amount of non-IBM hardware.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#43 Boeings New Dreamliner Ready For Maiden Voyage
the (renton) 360/75 was used for some amount of classified work ... when
classified work was running ... there was black rope around the
perimeter of the 360/75 area ... there was black sheet over the 360/75
front panel lights and the 1403s had the "windows" papered over ... and
badges were color coded as to people's cleared level.
Patrick Scheible
> I got to go thru some of the 747 orientation presentations given to
> customers. One of the things that I remember was comments that 747 would
> be carrying so many people, that 747s would always have minium of four
> jetways at the gate (to get the people off and on).
Too bad airlines don't actually do that. If they did, maybe they
could load and unload the planes in less than 25 minutes.
-- Patrick
Joe Pfeiffer
the tender age of 11 or 12) being involved in one of the early tests of
the evacuation slides. Unfortunately, the rear slide (the one I was to
go down) twisted, and was dumping people on the concrete (I remember
hearing about at least one broken arm). After about five people went
down, a *huge* guy planted himself in the doorway, stopped, and started
shouting for people to go forward instead. That fall, I walked into my
English class and found the same guy in the front of the room -- my new
teacher.
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be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
Anne & Lynn Wheeler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#44 Boeings New Dreamliner Ready For Maiden Voyage
not very good of the front panel lights ... but picture of 360/75
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_2423PH2075.html
things started out as announced 360/60 and 360/70 (basically "fast"
hardwired 360/60) ... somewhere along the way the memory subsystems were
upgraded from 1mic to 750ns ... and the models renamed 360/65 & 360/75.
references 360/60 announcement
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_FS360.html
another picture of 360/75 front panel:
http://csg.uwaterloo.ca/~jwgraham/g+m/jwg-glob.jpg
corporate hdqtrs was across the street from boeing field and
the sst bldg was down the street:
http://www.super70s.com/super70s/Tech/Aviation/Aircraft/SST.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_2707
http://www.unrealaircraft.com/classics/sst.php
Peter Flass
They could greatly speed things up by loading starting from the back
rows, so people getting on wouldn't have to trip over people in front
trying to stuff their giant carryons into the small bins. Of course,
although logical, this would mean their precious first-class passengers
would have to board last.
Joe Pfeiffer
There aren't enough first class passengers on flights I've been on for
them to matter, and that's also when they board the disabled.
I thought for a long time that the more recent "boarding groups"
strategy would be as fast as boarding from the back, but with less
crowding. But I read recently that it just doesn't matter. They've
tried everything from back-first to boarding groups to letting the mob
on all at once, and apparently nothing makes a significant difference.
Scott Lurndal
>Peter Flass <Peter...@Yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Patrick Scheible wrote:
>>> Anne & Lynn Wheeler <ly...@garlic.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> I got to go thru some of the 747 orientation presentations given to
>>>> customers. One of the things that I remember was comments that 747 would
>>>> be carrying so many people, that 747s would always have minium of four
>>>> jetways at the gate (to get the people off and on).
>>>
>>> Too bad airlines don't actually do that. If they did, maybe they
>>> could load and unload the planes in less than 25 minutes.
>>>
>>> -- Patrick
>>
>> They could greatly speed things up by loading starting from the back
>> rows, so people getting on wouldn't have to trip over people in front
>> trying to stuff their giant carryons into the small bins. Of course,
>> although logical, this would mean their precious first-class
>> passengers would have to board last.
>
>There aren't enough first class passengers on flights I've been on for
>them to matter, and that's also when they board the disabled.
>
>I thought for a long time that the more recent "boarding groups"
>strategy would be as fast as boarding from the back, but with less
>crowding. But I read recently that it just doesn't matter. They've
>tried everything from back-first to boarding groups to letting the mob
>on all at once, and apparently nothing makes a significant difference.
At some airports (Burbank comes to mind), southwest have two airstairs,
one front and one back and embark and disembark from both ends. This
seems to work quite well.
scott
Walter Bushell
Peter Flass <Peter...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
They could board first class first and then load the plane from the
back. But that would make sense. It would be to their advantage to get
the planes loaded faster and hence to the destination sooner on average.
Why tie up the plane when you don't have to?
--
A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
Morten Reistad
But you see, it IS possible.
When the Airbus 380 was to go through certifications they got
to make a timed emergency evacuation. Full plane, four hundred and
some people. They got out in two minutes. They were dedicated
airline personell, all of them. And there was one broken arm,
several bruises, a few broken ribs.
Perhaps we shall rejoice in our alotted boarding time?
-- mrr
Patrick Scheible
I never understood that. The less time I have to spend in the tin
can, the happier I am. If I were travelling first class, I'd be the
last one on before they shut the door.
-- Patrick
Walter Bushell
Patrick Scheible <k...@zipcon.net> wrote:
But cattle class, you want on early to seize the overhead space for you
carrion^W carryon luggage.
jmfbahciv
/BAH
Charles Richmond
As my old grandpa used to say:
"That'd be too much like doing right!"
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Patrick Scheible
Yes, but in first class there should be enough space for everyone to
have a fair amount of carry-on luggage.
I've generally taken only one small piece of carry-on luggage that can
easily fit next to my feet under the seat in front of me. Though I
haven't flown in the last year or so since most airlines started
charging for checked luggage.
-- Patrick
Walter Bushell
Morten Reistad <fi...@last.name> wrote:
Nobody, tried to get to carrion{1] luggage.
[1] >;][
Peter Grange
wrote:
>
>I've generally taken only one small piece of carry-on luggage that can
>easily fit next to my feet under the seat in front of me.
One great improvement in the last 40 years since I flew for the first
time. I can remember some planes where the carry on luggage went
underneath _your_ seat, removing the guy behind's legroom. I always
seemed to be the guy behind...
--
Pete
jmfbahciv
the longer the flight, the leg room became shorter over time.
/BAH
John Clear
Scott Lurndal <sl...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>At some airports (Burbank comes to mind), southwest have two airstairs,
>one front and one back and embark and disembark from both ends. This
>seems to work quite well.
San Jose Terminal C does the two airstairs as well. Terminal C is
being replaced by the new 'modern' Terminal B, which means it only
has a single jet bridge per gate. So much progress.
John
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