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THE ELUSIVE BUFFALOCHIP

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Aug 31, 1993, 8:33:00 PM8/31/93
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Well, now that school is in, has anyone got the list of ways to spot freshmen?

Mike
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MegaZone

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v115...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (THE ELUSIVE BUFFALOCHIP) shaped the electrons to say:

>Well, now that school is in, has anyone got the list of ways to spot freshmen?

They drink enough to kill a moose since they 'can', being away from home.

They have an excited/happy/awed look as they walk around campus. Compared
to returning students SSDD/disgruntled look.

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Grey Wolf

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Aug 31, 1993, 9:40:39 PM8/31/93
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v115...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (THE ELUSIVE BUFFALOCHIP) writes:

>Well, now that school is in, has anyone got the list of ways to spot freshmen?


I posted a somewhat long list comparing freshmen to seniors last year
around this time, and received a pretty favorable response. Unfortunately,
in a fit of shortsightedness and absentmindedness, I neglected to actually
*save* the thing or else I would post it again. :)

Chris [ze...@gandalf.rutgers.edu]

L'Angelo Misterioso

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Aug 31, 1993, 10:25:00 PM8/31/93
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In article <CCnG3...@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v115...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (THE ELUSIVE BUFFALOCHIP) writes...

>Well, now that school is in, has anyone got the list of ways to spot freshmen?

They're the ones lined up at the pay phones in the hall. They're also
the ones who carry around their Orientation handbooks.

mike
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Aug 31, 1993, 11:30:19 PM8/31/93
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I saved it because I laughed my ass off when I first read it........


Freshmen: Are never in bed past noon.
Seniors: Are never out of bed before noon.

Freshmen: Read the syllabus to find out what classes they can cut.
Seniors: Read the syllabus to find out what classes they need to attend.

Freshmen: Brings a can of soda into a lecture hall.
Seniors: Brings a jumbo hoagie and six-pack of Mtn. Dew into a
recitation class.

Freshmen: Calls the professor "Professor."
Seniors: Calls the professor "Bob."

Freshmen: Would walk ten miles to get to class.
Seniors: Drives to class if it's further than three blocks away.

Freshmen: Memorizes the course material to get a good grade.
Seniors: Memorizes the professor's habits to get a good grade.

Freshmen: Knows a book-full of useless trivia about the university.
Seniors: Knows where the next class is. Maybe...

Freshmen: Shows up at a morning exam clean, perky, and fed.
Seniors: Shows up at a morning exam in sweats with a cap on and a
box of pop tarts in hand.

Freshmen: Have to ask where the computer labs are.
Seniors: Has 'own' personal workstation.

Freshmen: Use the campus buses to go everywhere.
Seniors: Use the campus buses to run block while crossing the street.

Freshmen: Worry about the last freshman composition essay.
Seniors: Worry about the last GRE essay.

Jeff Johnston

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Sep 1, 1993, 1:19:54 PM9/1/93
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Freshman: Lines up for an hour to buy his textbooks in the first week
Senior: Starts to think about buying textbooks in October... maybe.

Freshman: Looks forward to first classes of the year
Senior: Looks forward to first beer garden of the year

Freshman: Is proud of his A+ on Calculus I midterm
Senior: Is proud of not _quite_ failing his Complex Analysis midterm

Freshman: Calls his girlfriend back home every other night
Senior: Calls Domino's every other night

Freshman: Is appalled at the class size and callousness of profs
Senior: Is appalled that the campus 'Subway' burned down over the summer
(This one is true!! argh!!)

Freshman: Conscienciously completes all homework, including optional
questions
Senior: Offers to 'tutor' conscientious frosh of opposite sex...

Freshman: Goes on grocery shopping trip with Mom before moving onto campus
Senior: Has a beer with Mom before moving onto campus

Freshman: Is excited about the world of possibilities that awaits him, the
unlimited vista of educational opportunities, the chance
to expand one's horizons and really make a contribution to
society
Senior: Is excited about new dryers in laundry room

Freshman: Takes meticulous four-color notes in class
Senior: Occasionally stays awake all class


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Jared Dahl

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Sep 1, 1993, 1:11:02 PM9/1/93
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In article <CCnG3...@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v115...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (THE ELUSIVE BUFFALOCHIP) writes:
|> Well, now that school is in, has anyone got the list of ways to spot freshmen?
|>

Dead Giveaways
--------------
High school letterman jacket, complete with all the medals.
Brand New Spanking White Tennis Shoes.
Wears Backpack on both shoulders.
Carrying map of campus.
They actually *read* the student newspaper.
Fresh Haircut.
Weak facial hair attempt for guys / too much makeup for girls
Has all the required books with them at each class.

Jared Dahl
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Matthew Allen

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Sep 1, 1993, 2:57:10 PM9/1/93
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Aren't they they ones who are actually getting up for 8 o'clocks,
wearing college paraphanelia from the actual college they goto,
and have that blank happy "I am gald to be here, I am never going
to pull an alnighter, How bad could three finals on one day bea?"
look in their eyes?

sho'nuff

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v115...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (THE ELUSIVE BUFFALOCHIP) writes:

>Mike
>(BuffaloChip)
Don't have a list, but here at K-State the freshmen are easily spotted
on the first day because they are wearing all K-state clothing (hat, shirt,
shorts, socks)...I'm talking about one person wearing all of this!!!
Some of them even wear their backpacks by using both straps (a dead giveaway).
They're also the ones who are looking around aimlessly while trying to find
what building they should be in (and K-state is not that big of a campus...
at least not like ATM or Michigan State, et al)...
well, my imagination is exhausted...guess I'll even go to class today 8-)

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Thomas Krueger

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THE ELUSIVE BUFFALOCHIP (v115...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote:
: Well, now that school is in, has anyone got the list of ways to spot freshmen?

<sigh> yeah, the ones who look young enough to be high school freshmen.

- Tom

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The Stupidity Patrol

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Sep 1, 1993, 3:52:08 PM9/1/93
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How about the ones that do a follow-up post to a 300 line article
just to put "I agree wholeheartedly" at the end?

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Bill Halstead

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Sep 1, 1993, 3:38:39 PM9/1/93
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Yeah, thats them... They're also the ones who take only morning classes
cuz that's when "they're the most mentally alert". Yeah, right.

Pete McNab

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Sep 1, 1993, 4:35:22 PM9/1/93
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The Stupidity Patrol (li...@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: How about the ones that do a follow-up post to a 300 line article

: just to put "I agree wholeheartedly" at the end?


They're more likely to just put "YEAH!!! D00D!"

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Albatross

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Sep 1, 1993, 6:43:41 PM9/1/93
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In article <1993Sep1.1...@midway.uchicago.edu> li...@ellis.uchicago.edu
(The Stupidity Patrol) writes:
> In article <262tf1...@uwm.edu> t...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Thomas Krueger)
writes:
>
> How about the ones that do a follow-up post to a 300 line article
> just to put "I agree wholeheartedly" at the end?

Yeah, and they usually write in all caps with plenty of ^d^^d^^^DDDddd stuff in
the content.

steve

emily salus

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Sep 1, 1993, 8:45:52 PM9/1/93
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In article <262ljq$i...@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> jjoh...@unixg.ubc.ca (Jeff Johnston) writes:
>Freshman: Lines up for an hour to buy his textbooks in the first week
>
>Freshman: Goes on grocery shopping trip with Mom before moving onto campus
>Senior: Has a beer with Mom before moving onto campus
>

But Graduate students go on a shopping trip with mom before moving *near*
campus in the hopes that someone else will pay for it!

emily

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Daniel B Case

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Sep 1, 1993, 9:09:00 PM9/1/93
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In article <260rj8$i...@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mega...@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone) writes...

>v115...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (THE ELUSIVE BUFFALOCHIP) shaped the electrons to say:
>>Well, now that school is in, has anyone got the list of ways to spot freshmen?
>
>They drink enough to kill a moose since they 'can', being away from home.
>
>They have an excited/happy/awed look as they walk around campus. Compared
>to returning students SSDD/disgruntled look.

Here are the SUNY at Buffalo specific ones:

They go in groups of five to Tops International [amazing megasupermarket near
campus open 24 hours] and ride around carts, wowing at all the ethnic food but
ending up just buying a small bag of bulk candies.

They still wear Nardin, Canisius, or Nichols sweatshirts around constantly so
everyone else from the Niagara Frontier knows what social gods are among them
[those are fancy Buffalo private schools]

Their parents stick around for the first few days of class and help them make
buy books at the bookstore and otherwise adjust (Don't laugh, I have seen this
with my own eyes).

They actually stop me and ask if I know where their class is.

Daniel Case State University of New York At Buffalo
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Jennifer Cox

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Sep 1, 1993, 9:19:20 PM9/1/93
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esa...@andy.bgsu.edu (emily salus) writes:

>>Freshman: Lines up for an hour to buy his textbooks in the first week
>>
>>Freshman: Goes on grocery shopping trip with Mom before moving onto campus
>>Senior: Has a beer with Mom before moving onto campus
>>

>But Graduate students go on a shopping trip with mom before moving *near*
>campus in the hopes that someone else will pay for it!


And poor med students invite their parents to the grocery and Walmart in
hopes they will pay for it......I usually whine at my dad for a little
cash while I'm at it...

Jennifer

Anthony Edward Prattico

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Sep 2, 1993, 8:52:05 AM9/2/93
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This needs a few corrections and clarifications as to what us seniors really
do.

jjoh...@unixg.ubc.ca (Jeff Johnston) writes:

>Freshman: Lines up for an hour to buy his textbooks in the first week
>Senior: Starts to think about buying textbooks in October... maybe.

Not quite. We go to the reserve desk in the library to get the books if we
really need them.

>Freshman: Looks forward to first classes of the year
>Senior: Looks forward to first beer garden of the year

>Freshman: Is proud of his A+ on Calculus I midterm
>Senior: Is proud of not _quite_ failing his Complex Analysis midterm

Oh, actually I've failed midterms and am quite proud of it.

>Freshman: Calls his girlfriend back home every other night
>Senior: Calls Domino's every other night

No No No. Frosh call HOME every other night. In the week or so that I've been
back at school, I've called two friends (one is not exactly a girlfriend, but
close enough) for a total of about 8 hours. I've talked to my parents for
about 15 minutes.

>Freshman: Is appalled at the class size and callousness of profs
>Senior: Is appalled that the campus 'Subway' burned down over the summer
> (This one is true!! argh!!)

>Freshman: Conscienciously completes all homework, including optional
> questions
>Senior: Offers to 'tutor' conscientious frosh of opposite sex...

And have to be damned careful they're at least 17.

>Freshman: Goes on grocery shopping trip with Mom before moving onto campus
>Senior: Has a beer with Mom before moving onto campus

Do you think I'm actually going to pay for things if someone else is willing
to?

>Freshman: Is excited about the world of possibilities that awaits him, the
> unlimited vista of educational opportunities, the chance
> to expand one's horizons and really make a contribution to
> society
>Senior: Is excited about new dryers in laundry room

>Freshman: Takes meticulous four-color notes in class
>Senior: Occasionally stays awake all class

Does reading assignments for his literature class while attending a class on
microprocessors.

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>------"Is not life a hundred times too short for us to bore ourselves?"-------


Anthony Prattico
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A.D. Williams

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In article <262sj6...@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> sup...@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (sho'nuff) writes:
>Some of them even wear their backpacks by using both straps (a dead giveaway).

Well, I wear my backpack with both straps. I graduated last May but I
hang out on campus because I can't find a job and I am too afraid of the
real world to go elsewhere.

In high school, everyone wore just one strap on their backpack. Me,
being slave to fashion, did this. In my freshman year, I kept this
practice up. All it did was make one strap break and gave me a sore
shoulder.

During my junior year I said "screw it" and wore both straps. I
continue this practice and I wonder why I ever wore just one strap the
first place.

Derrick

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emily salus

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Sep 2, 1993, 2:02:22 PM9/2/93
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Well, I wear both straps and I am 1st yr. PhD, but I also have a bad back and
was explicitly told by my doctor that if I ever wanted to be healthy I should
get a back pack (as opposed to a shoulder bag) and wear both straps...

Maybe someday I'll even be healthy again....nah never happen...

emily

Jon_H...@afs.com

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Sep 2, 1993, 1:46:21 PM9/2/93
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In article <264q9l$p...@usenet.rpi.edu> pra...@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Anthony
Edward Prattico) writes:
| This needs a few corrections and clarifications as to what us seniors really
| do.
|
| jjoh...@unixg.ubc.ca (Jeff Johnston) writes:
|
| >Freshman: Lines up for an hour to buy his textbooks in the first week
| >Senior: Starts to think about buying textbooks in October... maybe.
|
| Not quite. We go to the reserve desk in the library to get the books if we
| really need them.

You go to the library? :)
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Jared Dahl

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Sep 2, 1993, 3:18:10 PM9/2/93
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Freshman are easiest to spot during weekend meals and
breakfast (in cafeterias). They are the ones who have
taken time to shower, shave/put on makeup, and put on
some nice clothes.

Upperclassmen usually show up in sweatpants and baseball
caps.

CAR...@auvm.american.edu

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Sep 2, 1993, 5:17:14 PM9/2/93
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In article <26312a$3...@agate.berkeley.edu>, pmc...@soda.berkeley.edu (Pete

McNab) says:
>
>The Stupidity Patrol (li...@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
>: How about the ones that do a follow-up post to a 300 line article
>: just to put "I agree wholeheartedly" at the end?
>
>
>They're more likely to just put "YEAH!!! D00D!"

I agree wholeheartedly.

Jared Dahl

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Sep 2, 1993, 4:48:56 PM9/2/93
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Freshman tend to show up very early for classes, and will
stand outside the door for 15 minutes (first class of the
day).

Freshman will CLING to anyone they know, even if they did
not like that person especially in high school, until they
make some friends.

Freshman will also cling to their roommate.

Freshman will hide in their dorm rooms unless you drag
them out.

Freshman walk into the wrong classrooms, or open the door
not realizing that a class is still going.

Freshman try not to look like freshman.

Freshman travel in packs if possible.

Freshman cannot work the cereal dispensers in the cafeteria.

Freshman assume that everyone is older and more experienced
than they are.

The problem with this is that the freshman grow out of this
stuff real quick. You won't see very much of it past the
second week of school.

Susan Clark

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Sep 2, 1993, 7:58:03 PM9/2/93
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HOW TO SPOT 1ST YEAR STUDENTS IN CANADIAN UNIVERSITIES

They're the ones:

All wearing the same t-shirt--upon which upperclassmen
orientation leaders have written rude messages

On street corners, collecting money for "shine-o-rama"

Parading around campus tied together

Herded into tennis courts at dusk to have Jello thrown at them

Wearing painters' suits spray-painted by upperclassmen

Actually IN the bookstore before classes start, buying
matching binder and notebook sets (not exclusive to Canada)

In the student aid office, acting like having your
student aid screwed up is an extraordinary thing

Wearing an outfit entirely consisting of university stuff-
hat, shorts, shirt, pen, etc.

And, if they're ann ENGINEER--
dyed purple, wearing a hard hat, and being herded around
campus chanting "Artsies suck" or something more obscene.

Cheers!
Susan Carroll-Clark
U of Toronto

FMC

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Sep 2, 1993, 10:25:18 PM9/2/93
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At USCB, that's simple. When the freshmen go and party in the college
town of Isla Vista, they bring their own large plastic cups to drink
beer and go in LARGE groups. Everyone else knows at least someone in
I.V. having a party so bringing a cup in not required. They can
ALWAYS get one later!

fmc :)

William W. Hughes

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Yeah! d00d!!


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ope...@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu

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At Rose-Hulman, an all-male school, classroom attire is usually in the
t-shirt/sweatpants style, so a pretty good way to distinguish freshmen
from the rest, even after the first few weeks, is with the t-shirt test.

Freshmen:
* high-school senior class shirts, listing every senior by name
* HS letter jackets over any t-shirt (a high % of these are *not*
athletic letters, if you look closely... :)
* high-school athletic team tees (cross-country, football workout tees, etc)
* band shirts
* "Survivor: Fast-Track Calculus" shirts (these are the "I'm in Differential
Equations and you're not" messages to fellow frosh)

Upperclassmen:
* fraternity party shirts
* hall/floor shirts
* real Rose athletic jerseys or letter jackets
* the purple tie-dye "Frank-driving-a-station-wagon-with-magtapes-in-the-
back/Top 1010 Things Overhead in the CS Dept" ACM shirts [computer geeks
only]
* summer internship shirts (usually not t-shirts!)

Of course in the OLD DAYS, Rose used to do it right; freshmen had to wear
beanies all the time.

Joel F. Klein, CS/EE '94
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology

John G Hardie

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Sep 4, 1993, 12:25:05 PM9/4/93
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In article <1993Sep02....@rchland.ibm.com> jd...@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:
[...]
>Freshman walk into the wrong classrooms...

This can be truly amusing. Picture this:

A half dozen senior PhD students in physics are hanging around in a classroom waiting
for the first lecture in Physics 365 (or some such number) - Quantum Field Theory.
Shortly before class begins, a very lost looking young man comes in and sits down. He
doesn't seem to notice that everyone else in the room is at least six years older than
he is. We, being no fools, realize what's going on and decide to be charitable. One of
us gently asks him if he's sure that he's in the right place, and suggests that he should
just maybe check his schedule again. He becomes absolutely indignant - how dare we question
him! He might be new around here, but he's certainly smart enough to find his own classrooms!
(Actually, what he said was something along the lines of "Yes, I'm in the right place. Maybe
you're not." in the tone of someone who refuses to admit that they made a mistake). Ok, fine.
We sit back to enjoy the show.

The professor comes in and looks curiously at this brilliant scholar as he RUSHES to take a
seat in the first row of chairs. The rest of us just sprawl out where we are. The prof. notices
some of us grinning and decides to play along - he doesn't announce which class this is - after
all, we all know where we're supposed to be, right? He turns to the board and begins discussing
the gauge invariance of quantum electrodynamics - proving it explicitly for the Dirac equation.
We then quickly review perturbation theory in relativistic quantum mechanics. Most of us have seen
this before and so take only cursory notes. One, however, is looking concerned and scribbling like
mad in his notebook. After about twenty minutes (?! I kid you not - this guy hung in there for
half the lecture - he might have been clueless, but he made up for it in stubbornness) he raised
his hand - another dead giveaway since grad students typically just blurt out their questions.
When the professor called on him, he asked in a meek voice "Is this really Physics 11?" (Physics
11 is general physics for non-majors.) The answer, of course, is not what he wants to hear - "Yes
it is." The poor soul now looks truly distressed - how is he ever going to pass this course - he
doesn't even know the names of most of the strange glyphs on the board. His forlorn look is too
much for us and a couple of us giggle. The cat is out of the bag, and the professor tells him that
physics 11 meets one floor up - this is quantum field theory. We apologize for teasing him (trying
to de-traumatize him a little) and send him on his way.

I bet he never made that mistake again.

Regards,
John

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Tim Doran

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Well, as of Labour Day, I'll be able to open the door on my residence room
and observe the 48 frosh (Canadian freshmen) for whom I will serve as
advisor, public health official, babysitter, tutor, paper boy and whatever
the f*ck else they need from me.

Can't wait...

TJ, Don of UW Village 2, floor West D

David Anderson

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Sep 3, 1993, 5:24:30 PM9/3/93
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At Auburn, we have a summer orientation for all incoming fall freshmen.
When the freshmen register, they are given an orange binder containing
their stuff. You can spot them a mile away because of the orange folders
that they all carry. The smart one ditch it the first minute they can.

And of course, you can always spot the freshmen because they are the ones
standing on street corners with their campus maps open. And they are the
ones who have to ask where Haley Center is. HC is the only ten story build-
ing on a campus where nothing else is over four stories tall.


L'Angelo Misterioso

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In article <26ad05$h...@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>, ope...@RoseVC.Rose-Hulman.Edu writes...

>Of course in the OLD DAYS, Rose used to do it right; freshmen had to wear
>beanies all the time.

I smell a new thread........I have a list of rules and regulations
for the University of Buffalo from like 1913 - I'll post it when I dig it
out..........

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Steven Eitzen

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Another way to spot a freshling is listening to them mispronounce
building names. For example, here at UManitoba there is a building
called Armes (pronounced arms). I have heard at least one rookie
pronounce it armess.

First years are also the ones actually walking around outside between
buildings on rainy days instead of using the tunnel system.
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Dean Bailey

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adw...@ultb.isc.rit.edu (A.D. Williams) writes:

>In article <262sj6...@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> sup...@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (sho'nuff) writes:
>>Some of them even wear their backpacks by using both straps (a dead giveaway).

> Well, I wear my backpack with both straps. I graduated last May but I
>hang out on campus because I can't find a job and I am too afraid of the
>real world to go elsewhere.

Yes, I've been a JAFFY (freshman) since 1988 (don't ask...) and I *always*
use both straps on my pack. I use a backpack for EVERYTHING and I don't want
my back to get any worse...

Allyson Tripp

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At Brigham Young University, in Utah, they have a habit of giving buildings
very long names, which are usually published alongside a 3-4 letter abbreviation
on maps and such. For instance, the Somebody-or other Martin Building is
known as the MARB, pronounced as a single syllable. The Abraham Smoot Building,
however, is the ASB, spelled out A-S-B. So the poor unsuspecting freshman will
go up on campus, and ask a friendly face how to find the Martin Building, only to have them get a blank look, and say, "The Martin Building? Never heard of it."
So, then proffering their precious map and pointing to where it is supposed
to be, they hear, "Oh, you mean the MARB! It's right there."

Having kind older siblings who had previously attended BYU, I was thankfully
able to avoid the more obvious freshman foibles.

Allyson Tripp Rozell

Herschel A Gelman

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In article <anderda.93...@tesla.ee.eng.auburn.edu> and...@eng.auburn.edu (David Anderson) writes:
>
>And of course, you can always spot the freshmen because they are the ones
>standing on street corners with their campus maps open. And they are the
>ones who have to ask where Haley Center is. HC is the only ten story build-
>ing on a campus where nothing else is over four stories tall.

Which of course brings us to Pitt freshmen, who ask where the Cathedral of
Learning is. The CL is the only cathedral-like, 40-floor towering structure
that can be seen from most of Oakland.... :-)

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Michael T Ford

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It's hard for freshmen here to mispronounce building names. All the
buildings are numbered. The funny part is to tell them how to get
somewhere and see the blank look on their face. Dunkin Donuts? It's
in Bldg. 12. Building 12? That's down the Infinite Corridor. You
take a left as you enter 4. Oh, 4 is after 10 and just before 8.

There are exceptions to the rule of course: 50? Oh, you know
where Walker is don't you? Yeah, that's it. 54? That's the Green
Building. Yeah, the tall one from the Orange Tour.

Very few people know more than a couple names of buildings. Although
10 is the MacLaurin Building, I'd guess only 5-10% of the students
know that. And it's one of the more well-travelled buildings on campus.


--Michael T. Ford
<cth...@MIT.edu>

Anthony Edward Prattico

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>--Michael T. Ford
> <cth...@MIT.edu>

Here at RPI all of the buildings have names. However, one of the names
abbreviates to CII. Building 102? Never heard of it. Also, the campus maps
have numbers on all of the buildings, with the names to one side. Numerous
frosh and parents ask where buildings are by number. Building 48? I don't
know. What's the name of the building? Some are actually indignant that there
aren't any numbers posted on the outsides of the buildings though the names
are plainly visible.

I think a new course in common sense should be a requirement for all high
school students. I mean after all, if the entrance to a building has a double
door, why is everbody trying to go in and out through only one?

Marco Morales~

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library?

if you were like me, you would not have gotten your library card until your senior year!

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Daniel B Case

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In article <26l2hk$e...@usenet.rpi.edu>, pra...@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Anthony Edward Prattico) writes...

>Here at RPI all of the buildings have names. However, one of the names
>abbreviates to CII. Building 102? Never heard of it. Also, the campus maps
>have numbers on all of the buildings, with the names to one side. Numerous
>frosh and parents ask where buildings are by number. Building 48? I don't
>know. What's the name of the building? Some are actually indignant that there
>aren't any numbers posted on the outsides of the buildings though the names
>are plainly visible.
>
>I think a new course in common sense should be a requirement for all high
>school students. I mean after all, if the entrance to a building has a double
>door, why is everbody trying to go in and out through only one?
>

Speaking of which, didn't SUNY Albany deal with this problem by 1) putting
all the classes in one HUGE building at the center of campus, and 2) building
four equally huge dorms at each cardinal point of the campus. The net result:
SUNYA frosh don't have to worry about finding the building where their class is
it's already done for them; but they betray themselves by going all the way
back to their rooms at the end of the day to find they're in the wrong buildings
I heard this has actually happened quite a few times. Anyone there care to
comment?

peter lavallee

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At Columbia, my alma mater, there is a section of campus called East
Campus. It includes a high-rise dorm, technically Henry Hudson Hall,
but everyone calls it East Campus, despite the fact that several
buildings fall under that name.

Even the campus mailroom doesn't understand the distinction. I told a
friend to write to me at such-and-such an address, Hudson Hall. I thought
he never wrote. Everyone else's mail, addressed to East Campus, arrived.
At the end of the academic year, I finally received the Hudson Hall letter,
dated September.

pjl

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Joshua Eli Schachter

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Sep 13, 1993, 4:29:51 AM9/13/93
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Excerpts from netnews.alt.folklore.college: 7-Sep-93 Re: Spotting
Freshmen? by Herschel A Gelman@cislab
> Which of course brings us to Pitt freshmen, who ask where the Cathedral of
> Learning is. The CL is the only cathedral-like, 40-floor towering structure
> that can be seen from most of Oakland.... :-)

Even CMU students know where that is. It's in the tour. (Although called
the Tower of Ignorance.)


j.e.s.

Joshua Eli Schachter

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Excerpts from netnews.alt.folklore.college: 8-Sep-93 Re: Spotting
Freshmen? by Anthony E. Prattico@marc
> school students. I mean after all, if the entrance to a building has a double
> door, why is everbody trying to go in and out through only one?

Because one is always locked. Just ask Kibo.

j.e.s.

Trashcan Man

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Sep 16, 1993, 12:00:23 AM9/16/93
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In article <26qb55$7...@news.cs.tulane.edu> lw2...@rs5.tcs.tulane.edu (peter lavallee) writes:
>At Columbia, my alma mater, there is a section of campus called East
>Campus. It includes a high-rise dorm, technically Henry Hudson Hall,
>but everyone calls it East Campus, despite the fact that several
>buildings fall under that name.
>
>Even the campus mailroom doesn't understand the distinction. I told a
>friend to write to me at such-and-such an address, Hudson Hall. I thought
>he never wrote. Everyone else's mail, addressed to East Campus, arrived.
>At the end of the academic year, I finally received the Hudson Hall letter,
>dated September.

Ah yes, East Campus... that abortion of a building across from my job
(Faculty House) I had been told that the original design for it was
by a CATERING company, ARA/Cory, who decided to venture into the
construction business. They had this design for what I believe was an FSU
dorm, but they decided to back out and not buy it. Undaunted, they sold
the plans to Columbia. Now, it so happens that that area of campus is
not the most stable, being that is built on a cliff, so this building,
after being in service only 7 or so years, had to be closed for renovation.
All the doors had to get pneumatic checks because THE BUILDING WAS LEANING!!!
So, it was closed for about 2 years, and later reopened. This year,
for many days at a time, it had no water, because the boiler system
was trashed. Gee, this building, only 10 years old, proved to be the
albatross of Facilities Management, who inhabits it's basement.

And what about Columbia's two Schapiro Halls. There's Schapiro Hall (the
dorm) and the Morris A. Schapiro Center for Engineering and Physical
Science Research (CEPSR) Grrrr... just to make life more annoying for the
mailrrom guys. It's not bad enough they steal stuff...

Trashcan Man.
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Todd Radel

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Well, Delaware has three buildings named DuPont: a music recital building,
an engineering building, and a brand-new biochemistry building. Not to
mention the building named after Willard Hall: Hall Hall.


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James J. Szinger

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Buildings named Sterling at Yale:

1. Sterling Chemestry Lab.
2. Sterling Divinity Quad.
3. Sterling Hall of Medicine
4. Sterling Law Buildings
5. Sterling Memorial Library
6. Sterling Power Plant
7. Sheffield-Sterling-Strathcona Hall

Ciao,
Jim
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Scott Terek

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In article J...@news.udel.edu, ra...@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel) writes:
>
>Well, Delaware has three buildings named DuPont: a music recital building,
>an engineering building, and a brand-new biochemistry building. Not to
>mention the building named after Willard Hall: Hall Hall.
>
I may be remembering this incorrectly (and I'm sure someone from there will
correct me if I am), but wasn't the University of Chicago's first football
field named Marshall Field Field, after the noted retailer?

Spanky

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As long as we've moved on to building names, here at Penn State we
haven't had anyone donate any large sums of money recently, so we have:

The Classroom and Office Building
The Academic Projects Building
etc.

Rumor has it the first person to donate more than a million dollars gets
his/her name on one of these...

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Richard Hosker

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In article <27afj2$e...@genesis.ait.psu.edu>, cpa...@astro.psu.edu writes...

> As long as we've moved on to building names, here at Penn State we
>haven't had anyone donate any large sums of money recently, so we have:
>
>The Classroom and Office Building
>The Academic Projects Building
>etc.
>
> Rumor has it the first person to donate more than a million dollars gets
>his/her name on one of these...


This is an official policy of the Tennessee Board of Regents nowadays;
buildings are to be named only for generous contributors. Thirty years'
service to the school will no longer buy you a building name as it used to
in the old days. We've got three or four unnamed buildings at the moment,
even though we've already found one million-dollar donor.

What ever happened to naming buildings for the politicians who helped fund
their construction, or for past presidents or noteworthy faculty members?
This preoccupation with fundraising is getting out of hand...


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IHAN KIM

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At Amherst College, the Pratt family has left its mark on our small (1.6k)
school with:

Pratt Gymnasium (now used for geology)
Pratt Pool
Pratt Dormitory
-all of these were built before the turn of the century, if memory serves,
(except for the Pool, which was rebuilt after a fire.)

-ihan-
-i...@amherst.edu-

CROBLAB 23

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Sep 16, 1993, 6:29:21 PM9/16/93
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In article <JIM.93Se...@fuji.eng.yale.edu> j...@fuji.eng.yale.edu (James J. Szinger) writes:
>From: j...@fuji.eng.yale.edu (James J. Szinger)
>Subject: Re: Spotting Freshmen?
>Date: 16 Sep 93 14:50:09
Spotting Freshmen is very easy at U of M-Flint.. They all tend to group
together like a bunch of grapes.

Polar Bear

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IHAN KIM (ik...@unix.amherst.edu) wrote:
: At Amherst College, the Pratt family has left its mark on our small (1.6k)
: school with:

: Pratt Gymnasium (now used for geology)
: Pratt Pool
: Pratt Dormitory

And, of course, the football field, which is/was Pratt Field.
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Curt R Lindmark

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In article <27anr9$a...@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>,

Richard Hosker <rph...@gemini.tntech.edu> wrote:
>What ever happened to naming buildings for the politicians who helped fund
>their construction, or for past presidents or noteworthy faculty members?
>This preoccupation with fundraising is getting out of hand...

At the college my brother graduated from last year, a wealthy almuns made
and unsolicited donation of 100M, and asked for nothing in return. No
recognition, no nothing.

The school board changed the name of the *school*!

R.I.P. Glassboro State College. (now Rowan College)

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Come to think of it, so am I.

Spanky

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Sep 17, 1993, 12:57:49 PM9/17/93
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I can't believe I forgot the mark left on Penn State by the famous
BEAVER family

Beaver Stadium
Beaver Ave.
and the Mary Beaver White Building ;-)

Janice Wright

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In a previous article, ste...@fa.disney.com (Scott Terek) says:

>In article 20...@njitgw.njit.edu, crl...@hertz.njit.edu (Curt R Lindmark) writes:
>>In article <27anr9$a...@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>,

Further on the subject of building names...

A couple of years ago, when I was at McGill University (Montreal, Canada),
the student body decided they wanted to get in on the act...

Some students took it into their heads that the best way to show their
utter contempt for the administration would be to do something really
annoying and press-worthy, SO... a petition was circulated, and a
school-wide referendum was held, the question passed by a relatively
healthy margin, and so now, the Student Union Bldg. is know by the name
of McGill's most famous graduate:

The William Shatner University Center

I'm not kidding. The administration had a cow, and said we couldn't rename
the building because a) Bill wasn't dead, and b) he hadn't given us lots
of money. But the Student Government has complete control over the
interior of the building, so while it still says 'University Center' on the
outside, there is a large red-and-white sign hanging over the information
desk which proclaims it's true name... and all student publications
and events refer to it as the 'Shatner Bldg.'

So while I was a McGill student, my .sig read "William Shatner went to my
school and the administration has been regretting it ever since!"

Janice

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Daniel B Case

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In article <CDGII...@news.udel.edu>, ra...@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel) writes...

>>And what about Columbia's two Schapiro Halls. There's Schapiro Hall (the
>>dorm) and the Morris A. Schapiro Center for Engineering and Physical
>>Science Research (CEPSR) Grrrr... just to make life more annoying for the
>>mailrrom guys. It's not bad enough they steal stuff...
>
>Well, Delaware has three buildings named DuPont: a music recital building,
>an engineering building, and a brand-new biochemistry building. Not to
>mention the building named after Willard Hall: Hall Hall.

Syracuse has three buildings with "Crouse" in them: Huntington Beard Crouse
Hall (home of the foreign languages, classics, and geography departments),
Crouse College (the art building) and the Crouse-Hinds School of Management
building. While it works itself out, this can be confusing to a newcomer.

Jodi Giannini

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The new business and management building here at U of Maryland College Park
is to be named Van Munching (sp?) hall after the alumni who donated 5 million
dollars for it's construction. People who drink Heiniken Beer may know the
name---they're the importers of that beer, along with some other brands.

I'm sure there will be plenty o' jokes about this. It's a beautiful building,
though, even if I don't particularly care for beer, beer companies, and
the like.

Jodi G.
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Sep 19, 1993, 11:58:06 PM9/19/93
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In article <27b3hq$s...@amhux3.amherst.edu>, ik...@unix.amherst.edu (IHAN KIM)
says:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How in the name of Esther Williams do you burn down a pool?

David Hungerford AU...@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU Std. Disc.
Furthermore, it is my opinion that Barney must be destroyed.

David J. Greenberger

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Sep 20, 1993, 4:30:45 PM9/20/93
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to...@panix.com (Trashcan Man) writes:

>And what about Columbia's two Schapiro Halls. There's Schapiro Hall (the
>dorm) and the Morris A. Schapiro Center for Engineering and Physical
>Science Research (CEPSR) Grrrr... just to make life more annoying for the
>mailrrom guys. It's not bad enough they steal stuff...

That's nothing. Cornell has Uris Library and Uris Hall. It also has Olin
Library, Olin Lab, Olin Hall, and, down at the medical school in NYC, F.W. Olin
Hall. There's also Baker Lab and the Baker dorm complex. And Noyes Center and
Noyes Lodge. And White Hall and the A.D. White House (not to be confused with
the White House in D.C.). And...well, I'm sure there's more. Of course,
there's RPU, Robert Purcell Community Center. (It used to be Robert Purcell
Union, but when the official name changed, people continued to call it RPU.)

Cornell proper is in zip code 14853, while the rest of Ithaca, including
locations near but not quite on campus, is in 14850. Somehow, we occasionally
get mail here, at 106 West Avenue in 14850, addressed to 106 West Sibley Hall
in 14853.
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Douglas C. Musser

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Sep 20, 1993, 4:33:15 PM9/20/93
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In article <1993Sep17....@njitgw.njit.edu>, crl...@hertz.njit.edu (Curt R Lindmark) writes:
> In article <27anr9$a...@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>,
>
> At the college my brother graduated from last year, a wealthy almuns made
> and unsolicited donation of 100M, and asked for nothing in return. No
> recognition, no nothing.
>
> The school board changed the name of the *school*!
>
> R.I.P. Glassboro State College. (now Rowan College)
>
> O========|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|========0
> Curt R Lindmark crl...@hertz.njit.edu Defender from ages past
> Disclaimer: NJIT is responsible for nothing I don't say which isn't mine.
> Come to think of it, so am I.

I live not far from Glassboro State (Rowan College) and many people from my
high school graduating class went there when it was Glassboro State and now
will graduate under the name of Rowan College. They are not too fond of that.
I am not either, I guess just because I am used to the old name and had been
there many times in my life. Both of my parents graduated from Glassboro and
they think it's kinda weird.

Doug

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I attend a very small school (1500 students) in the middle of nowhere (a.k.a
Ohio). In any case for a school of this size, we have a lot of buildings with
the same names:

Mather:
Samuel Mather (psychology dept.)
Phillip Mather (chem and physics I think)
Mather Residence Hall

Bexley:
Bexley Hall (Art Building)
Bexley Apts. (Owned by the school)

Gund:
Gund Commons
Gund Hesidence Hall

that is about 1/3 of the buildings on campus. In any case, I figured i would
post it.


Chris Filson
Kenyon College
fil...@kenyon.edu

Gabe Tang

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Sep 21, 1993, 12:58:21 PM9/21/93
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Hey, anyone out there at MIT....how do you like Tang Hall? 8-o
My cousin put up the money for that one. :-}
hmmmm....maybe I should ask for over-night privileges!!! ;^)

Bill Thomas

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Sep 21, 1993, 1:26:28 PM9/21/93
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At UC Davis freshman will sometimes be told a particular item can only be
found at the off campus bookstore. They then will start asking for the name
and directions to the off campus bookstore and will get strange answers
until they realize that the name of the off campus bookstore really is
"The Off Campus Bookstore".

John Meredith

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Sep 23, 1993, 5:02:00 PM9/23/93
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In article <27cqad$m...@genesis.ait.psu.edu>, cpa...@astro.psu.edu (Spanky) says:
>
> I can't believe I forgot the mark left on Penn State by the famous
>BEAVER family
>
> Beaver Stadium
> Beaver Ave.
> and the Mary Beaver White Building ;-)
>
....As opposed to Mary's White ... no, I guess that would be in poor
taste. Which isn't to say that
I've ever tasted Mary. Or her...

Scott Fischbein

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Sep 27, 1993, 4:08:58 AM9/27/93
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Bill Thomas (bi...@core.rose.hp.com) wrote:
: At UC Davis freshman will sometimes be told a particular item can only be

Also at UCD: the infamous Freshman Stripe
Since the inner campus is closed to automotive traffic, many, many people
ride bikes to class. When the rains come in late Fall, the freshman can
always be spotted because they have a vertical stripe running up their
backs, caused by the spray from their tires. Eventually they wise up
and buy fenders. Also, the campus has bike circles at the four way
intersections. Most freshman (and many other students) have a very hard
time negotiating these often overcrowded area. I witnessed one hapless
student going around 4 times before he was able to escape. What fun!
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