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Dec 26, 2012, 12:19:40 AM12/26/12
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Eric Holder Rifle Sales <erich...@gunsales.org> wrote:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/nyregion/gunman-who-shot-firefighters-
> left-chilling-note.html?_r=0
>
> WEBSTER, N.Y. On Monday morning when darkness was still raw, William
> Spengler Jr. armed himself with a rifle, a revolver and a shotgun. He had
> killed before. Harboring a deep-seated hatred of his sister, who lived
> with him, and a desire to harm his neighbors on a beachfront strip off
> Lake Ontario, Mr. Spengler composed a rough, typewritten plan that
> foretold of the destruction to come.
>
> I still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn
> down and do what I like doing best killing people, Mr. Spengler, 62,
> wrote, in a note the police recovered.
>
> It had been 32 years since he beat his grandmother to death with a hammer
> in the Lake Road house next to his.
>
> As Christmas Eve dawned in this suburb of Rochester, local authorities
> say, Mr. Spengler set fire to a car, as a trap. When an engine company
> came roaring down the street, he started shooting at the first responders,
> most likely from his Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle. It was the same type
> of semiautomatic weapon used in the school shooting 10 days earlier in
> Newtown, Conn.
>
> He was equipped to go to war to kill innocent people, the Webster police
> chief, Gerald L. Pickering, said of Mr. Spengler.
>
> The authorities say Mr. Spengler fired shots that killed two volunteer
> firefighters from long range and seriously wounded two others, and set a
> raging inferno. The police found him dead on a berm about five hours after
> the siege started, with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
>
> On Tuesday, the authorities added another likely victim: Cheryl Spengler,
> 67, the gunmans sister. Chief Pickering said human remains were found at
> the gunmans house, 191 Lake Road, that they believed were of Ms. Spengler.
> The Monroe County medical examiners office did not return requests for
> comment on the identification of the remains or the cause of death.
>
> Mr. Spenglers note, Chief Pickering said, contained no motive, just
> ramblings, and spoke only to a murderous intent. He said he was not at
> liberty to disclose it in full because of the investigation.
You gotta wonder what's up with all the insane liberal killers
on the East Coast.
Maybe it's something in the fracking water.
Eric Holder Rifle Sales <erich...@gunsales.org> wrote:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/nyregion/gunman-who-shot-firefighters-
> left-chilling-note.html?_r=0
>
> WEBSTER, N.Y. On Monday morning when darkness was still raw, William
> Spengler Jr. armed himself with a rifle, a revolver and a shotgun. He had
> killed before. Harboring a deep-seated hatred of his sister, who lived
> with him, and a desire to harm his neighbors on a beachfront strip off
> Lake Ontario, Mr. Spengler composed a rough, typewritten plan that
> foretold of the destruction to come.
>
> I still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn
> down and do what I like doing best killing people, Mr. Spengler, 62,
> wrote, in a note the police recovered.
>
> It had been 32 years since he beat his grandmother to death with a hammer
> in the Lake Road house next to his.
>
> As Christmas Eve dawned in this suburb of Rochester, local authorities
> say, Mr. Spengler set fire to a car, as a trap. When an engine company
> came roaring down the street, he started shooting at the first responders,
> most likely from his Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle. It was the same type
> of semiautomatic weapon used in the school shooting 10 days earlier in
> Newtown, Conn.
>
> He was equipped to go to war to kill innocent people, the Webster police
> chief, Gerald L. Pickering, said of Mr. Spengler.
>
> The authorities say Mr. Spengler fired shots that killed two volunteer
> firefighters from long range and seriously wounded two others, and set a
> raging inferno. The police found him dead on a berm about five hours after
> the siege started, with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
>
> On Tuesday, the authorities added another likely victim: Cheryl Spengler,
> 67, the gunmans sister. Chief Pickering said human remains were found at
> the gunmans house, 191 Lake Road, that they believed were of Ms. Spengler.
> The Monroe County medical examiners office did not return requests for
> comment on the identification of the remains or the cause of death.
>
> Mr. Spenglers note, Chief Pickering said, contained no motive, just
> ramblings, and spoke only to a murderous intent. He said he was not at
> liberty to disclose it in full because of the investigation.
You gotta wonder what's up with all the insane liberal killers
on the East Coast.
Maybe it's something in the fracking water.
Jeff M
Dec 26, 2012, 9:27:22 AM12/26/12
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On 12/25/2012 9:39 PM, Eric Holder Rifle Sales wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/nyregion/gunman-who-shot-firefighters-
> left-chilling-note.html?_r=0
[snip]
extremist gone off the deep end, another sad example of the type the
Bush Administration's Homeland Security report on" Right-Wing Terrorism"
warned us about.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/nyregion/gunman-who-shot-firefighters-
> left-chilling-note.html?_r=0
[snip]
> Mr. Spenglers note, Chief Pickering said, contained no motive, just
> ramblings, and spoke only to a murderous intent. He said he was not at
> liberty to disclose it in full because of the investigation.
It sounds like the incoherent ramblings of another conservative
> ramblings, and spoke only to a murderous intent. He said he was not at
> liberty to disclose it in full because of the investigation.
extremist gone off the deep end, another sad example of the type the
Bush Administration's Homeland Security report on" Right-Wing Terrorism"
warned us about.
emoneyjoe
Dec 26, 2012, 11:36:49 AM12/26/12
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Marked by moderation or caution.......
Not typically extremist, trying to follow
the law, careful not to do anything wrong.
Cautious about change, the Ten
Commandments, The Constitution.
Anybody can turn out to be a nutcase,
especially if pushed to the end of the rope,
but liberals are far more prone to doing
anything they feel like doing, even make
up stuff to smear others.
Jeff M
Dec 26, 2012, 12:27:08 PM12/26/12
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On 12/26/2012 10:36 AM, emoneyjoe wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 08:27:22 -0600, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote:
>
>> On 12/25/2012 9:39 PM, Eric Holder Rifle Sales wrote:
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/nyregion/gunman-who-shot-firefighters-
>>> left-chilling-note.html?_r=0
>> [snip]
>>> Mr. Spenglers note, Chief Pickering said, contained no motive, just
>>> ramblings, and spoke only to a murderous intent. He said he was not at
>>> liberty to disclose it in full because of the investigation.
>>
>> It sounds like the incoherent ramblings of another conservative
>> extremist gone off the deep end, another sad example of the type the
>> Bush Administration's Homeland Security report on" Right-Wing Terrorism"
>> warned us about.
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conservative
Psychol Bull. 2003 May;129(3):339-75.
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 08:27:22 -0600, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote:
>
>> On 12/25/2012 9:39 PM, Eric Holder Rifle Sales wrote:
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/nyregion/gunman-who-shot-firefighters-
>>> left-chilling-note.html?_r=0
>> [snip]
>>> Mr. Spenglers note, Chief Pickering said, contained no motive, just
>>> ramblings, and spoke only to a murderous intent. He said he was not at
>>> liberty to disclose it in full because of the investigation.
>>
>> It sounds like the incoherent ramblings of another conservative
>> extremist gone off the deep end, another sad example of the type the
>> Bush Administration's Homeland Security report on" Right-Wing Terrorism"
>> warned us about.
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conservative
Political conservatism as motivated social cognition.
Jost JT, Glaser J, Kruglanski AW, Sulloway FJ.
Abstract
Analyzing political conservatism as motivated social cognition
integrates theories of personality (authoritarianism,
dogmatism-intolerance of ambiguity), epistemic and existential needs
(for closure, regulatory focus, terror management), and ideological
rationalization (social dominance, system justification). A
meta-analysis (88 samples, 12 countries, 22,818 cases) confirms that
several psychological variables predict political conservatism: death
anxiety (weighted mean r = .50); system instability (.47);
dogmatism-intolerance of ambiguity (.34); openness to experience (-.32);
uncertainty tolerance (-.27); needs for order, structure, and closure
(.26); integrative complexity (-.20); fear of threat and loss (.18); and
self-esteem (-.09). The core ideology of conservatism stresses
resistance to change and justification of inequality and is motivated by
needs that vary situationally and dispositionally to manage uncertainty
and threat.
To break that down a little bit for the early readers among us:
"Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature
about the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of
political conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for
inequality, and that some of the common psychological factors linked to
political conservatism include:
Fear and aggression
Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
Uncertainty avoidance
Need for cognitive closure
Terror management
"From our perspective, these psychological factors are capable of
contributing to the adoption of conservative ideological contents,
either independently or in combination," the researchers wrote in an
article, "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition,"
recently published in the American Psychological Association's
Psychological Bulletin."
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml
You really should read the report from the Department of Homeland
Security's Office of Intelligence and Analysis: "Rightwing Extremism:
Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in
Radicalization and Recruitment." It's interesting reading, and in some
ways quite prescient.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 12:52:16 PM12/26/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
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deliberately driving the country into a debt crisis and lying their fucking
asses off with every breath to do it.
Goddamn America and fuck you.
-Eddie Haskell
Jeff M
Dec 26, 2012, 12:56:39 PM12/26/12
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On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
[snip]
> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>
> -Eddie Haskell
There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
[snip]
> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>
> -Eddie Haskell
movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 1:06:56 PM12/26/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year after
year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 1:15:17 PM12/26/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
you a question. What the fuck is it going to take to stop you stupid fucks
from running the country into a debt crisis in order to destroy the country.
It's us or you, motherfucker and I think I'll pick us.
Goddamn America.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 1:18:23 PM12/26/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
supported an anti-American hate church and made the minister of
anti-American hate his mentor?
Are you some sort of goddamn idiot, or is it that you hate America too?
Which one, motherfucker?
Chickenshit cocksucker. Open your mouth with out lying. You can't do it,
bitch.
-Eddie Haskell
Jeff M
Dec 26, 2012, 1:25:52 PM12/26/12
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expand government powers, regulations, deficits and debt every single
time your party gets its hands on political power, and now are so busy
pandering to the One Percenters with your dogmatic refusals and
obstructionism that you are pushing the country off the so-called fiscal
cliff.
We do understand that your ilk hates America, despises American values,
loathes the American people, and are eager to return America to some of
the worst social, political and economic conditions that prevailed circa
1900. But what do ignorant fools such as you think you're going to gain
for yourselves from your masters in return for doing their dirty work?
Santa Claus
Dec 26, 2012, 1:33:49 PM12/26/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> On 12/26/2012 12:06 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>> after
>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>
> You morons crashed the economy,
I stopped right there. You're a goddamned liar and still haven't explained
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>> after
>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>
> You morons crashed the economy,
why you want to destroy the country with a debt crisis.
YOU stupid motherfuckers crashed the economy and you're trying to do it
again. Tell me WHY?
"In 1992, Congress MANDATED that Fannie and Freddie increase their purchases
of mortgages for low-income and medium-income borrowers. Operating under
that requirement, Fannie Mae, in particular, has been aggressive and
creative in stimulating minority gains."
"The two companies are now required to devote 42% of their portfolios to
loans for low- and moderate-income borrowers"
"Although Fannie Mae actually has exceeded its target since 1994, it is
resisting any hike. It argues that a higher target would only produce more
loan defaults by pressuring banks to accept unsafe borrowers."
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/may/31/news/mn-42807
"The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory
overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a
decade ago."
"Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency
would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the
two largest players in the mortgage lending industry."
http://tinyurl.com/6lp5qu
''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any
kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of
Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.
''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on
these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''
Santa Claus
Dec 26, 2012, 1:36:18 PM12/26/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> On 12/26/2012 12:06 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>> after
>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>
> You morons crashed the economy, exploded the deficit
I stopped right there. Another goddamned lie. YOU fuckers are exploding the
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>> after
>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>
> You morons crashed the economy, exploded the deficit
deficit and the pretense that you give a fuck is another LIE.
The New York Times
July 9, 2006
Surprising Jump in Tax Revenues Is Curbing Deficit
By EDMUND L. ANDREWS
WASHINGTON, July 8 - An unexpectedly steep rise in tax revenues from
corporations and the wealthy is driving down the projected budget deficit
this year, even though spending has climbed sharply because of the war in
Iraq and the cost of hurricane relief.
On Tuesday, White House officials are expected to announce that the tax
receipts will be about $250 billion above last year's levels and that the
deficit will be about $100 billion less than what they projected six months
ago. The rising tide in tax payments has been building for months, but the
increased scale is surprising even seasoned budget analysts and making it
easier for both the administration and Congress to finesse the big run-up in
spending over the past year.
Tax revenues are climbing twice as fast as the administration predicted in
February, so fast that the budget deficit could actually decline this year.
The main reason is a big spike in corporate tax receipts, which have nearly
tripled since 2003, as well as what appears to be a big increase in
individual taxes on stock market profits and executive bonuses.
On Friday, the Congressional Budget Office reported that corporate tax
receipts for the nine months ending in June hit $250 billion - nearly 26
percent higher than the same time last year - and that overall revenues were
$206 billion higher than at this point in 2005.
Congressional analysts say the surprise windfall could shrink the deficit
this year to $300 billion, from $318 billion in 2005 and an all-time high of
$412 billion in 2004.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/washington/09econ.html?pagewanted=print&_r=0
-Eddie Haskell
Santa Claus
Dec 26, 2012, 1:39:58 PM12/26/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> On 12/26/2012 12:06 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>> after
>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>
> You morons crashed the economy, exploded the deficit and consistently
> expand government powers, regulations, deficits and debt every single time
> your party gets its hands on political power, and now are so busy
> pandering to the One Percenters with your dogmatic refusals and
> obstructionism that you are pushing the country off the so-called fiscal
> cliff.
You're goddamned right we're obstructionists. Obstructionists to your
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>> after
>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>
> You morons crashed the economy, exploded the deficit and consistently
> expand government powers, regulations, deficits and debt every single time
> your party gets its hands on political power, and now are so busy
> pandering to the One Percenters with your dogmatic refusals and
> obstructionism that you are pushing the country off the so-called fiscal
> cliff.
attempt to fuck the country for political gain with the debt crisis. And
obstructionist to your attempt to deliberately crash the economy with a debt
crisis.
Now, in the short run why do you want to lower revenues, slow growth, and
cost jobs? Answer: You're corrupt as fuck and see political gain in it and
goddamn America.
Hussein's "compromise" offer:
50 billion "stimulus" slush fund pay off to cronies and unions.
Capital gains tax hikes that will reduce revenues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJimLZRC9N8
Tax hikes that will slow growth and cost jobs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aufAtuTwKlE
"Continuing all the expiring tax cuts would boost GDP by about 1.5 percent
in 2013 and result in about 1.8 million new jobs, the CBO says. Continuing
all the tax cuts except for the high-end rates on couples earning more than
$250,000 a year would pare that growth to about 1.25 percent and cost the
country 200,000 jobs in 2013. "
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/the-case-for-kicking-the-pain-down-the-road-20121116
And when the fiscal cliff hits, don't bother Hussein. He'll be on vacation:
http://www.examiner.com/article/nation-mired-debt-obamas-set-to-take-another-4-million-hawaiian-vacation
-Eddie Haskell
Santa Claus
Dec 26, 2012, 1:44:54 PM12/26/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> On 12/26/2012 12:06 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>> after
>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>
> You morons crashed the economy, exploded the deficit and consistently
> expand government powers, regulations, deficits and debt every single time
> your party gets its hands on political power, and now are so busy
> pandering to the One Percenters with your dogmatic refusals and
> obstructionism that you are pushing the country off the so-called fiscal
> cliff.
>
> We do understand that your ilk hates America, despises American values,
I'm so sick and goddamned tired of you lying fucks claiming that we're
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>> after
>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>
> You morons crashed the economy, exploded the deficit and consistently
> expand government powers, regulations, deficits and debt every single time
> your party gets its hands on political power, and now are so busy
> pandering to the One Percenters with your dogmatic refusals and
> obstructionism that you are pushing the country off the so-called fiscal
> cliff.
>
> We do understand that your ilk hates America, despises American values,
guilty of exactly what you know you are guilty of. Get a new fucking line.
Now, why the fuck are you stupid motherfuckers deliberately spending us into
a debt crisis? Like to shit in your own bed? Explain to me why you're
destroying of America shouldn't be obstructed.
> loathes the American people, and are eager to return America to some of
> the worst social, political and economic conditions that prevailed circa
> 1900. But what do ignorant fools such as you think you're going to gain
> for yourselves from your masters in return for doing their dirty work?
"The final attempt of the Hoover Administration to rescue the economy was
the passage of the Emergency Relief and Construction Act which included
funds for public works programs and the creation of the Reconstruction
Finance Corporation (RFC) in 1932."
"In order to pay for these and other government programs, Hoover agreed to
one of the largest tax increases in American history. The Revenue Act of
1932 raised income tax on the highest incomes from 25% to 63%. The estate
tax was doubled and corporate taxes were raised by almost 15%."
"New Dealer Rexford Tugwell later remarked that although no one would say so
at the time, "practically the whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs
that Hoover started.""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent
before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong
... somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I
want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We
have never made good on our promises ... I say after eight years of this
Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started ... And
an enormous debt to boot!"
-Treasury secretary Henry Morganthau - May 1939
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morgenthau,_Jr.
"Tugwell subsequently served in FDR's administration for four years and was
one of the chief intellectual contributors to his New Deal."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexford_Tugwell
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx
-Eddie Haskell
Jeff M
Dec 26, 2012, 1:45:01 PM12/26/12
to
On 12/26/2012 12:15 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>
> Destroying the country is not progress, you lying motherfucker. Now, I asked
> you a question.
Yawn.
> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>
> Destroying the country is not progress, you lying motherfucker. Now, I asked
> you a question.
> What the fuck is it going to take to stop you stupid fucks
> from running the country into a debt crisis in order to destroy the country.
the worst of the damage you ham-handed incompetents keep inflicting on
the country can be made good.
> It's us or you, motherfucker and I think I'll pick us.
mother to you and the legion of losers, winos and drunken sailors that
preceded you.
Of course you America-hating proto-fascists think you can destroy
America, eliminate anyone capable of enough rational, independent
thought to reject your incoherent, hate and fear-based dogma, and
rebuild it in your preferred authoritarian, anti-democratic image. But
you're wrong on each count.
You are simply too weak and incompetent to really destroy America as
you'd like. You're also far too cowardly and ineffectual to kill off
all the people you'd like to kill; your longed-for "Great Cull" is just
an enormous rightard circle-jerk of laughably tough-talking rightard
milquetoasts. Lastly, of course, you are much too inept to rebuild the
country into your fascist dystopia, at least not without lots of
liberals around to patiently explain to you how to do just about
everything that would need doing, to design, plan and organize the work,
and, most importantly, to give your ilk the constant guidance and
correction you will obviously need to keep from immediately screwing
everything up.
Goddamn America.
>
> -Eddie Haskell
>
>
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 1:47:18 PM12/26/12
to
"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> On 12/26/2012 12:15 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> Destroying the country is not progress, you lying motherfucker. Now, I
>> asked
>> you a question.
>
> Yawn.
>
>> What the fuck is it going to take to stop you stupid fucks
>> from running the country into a debt crisis in order to destroy the
>> country.
>
> We'll just have to keep beating regressive retards at the polls, until the
> worst of the damage you ham-handed incompetents keep inflicting on the
> country can be made good.
Why did you stupid lying fucks obstruct us when we tried to stop you from
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> Destroying the country is not progress, you lying motherfucker. Now, I
>> asked
>> you a question.
>
> Yawn.
>
>> What the fuck is it going to take to stop you stupid fucks
>> from running the country into a debt crisis in order to destroy the
>> country.
>
> We'll just have to keep beating regressive retards at the polls, until the
> worst of the damage you ham-handed incompetents keep inflicting on the
> country can be made good.
causing a financial crisis?
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 1:50:03 PM12/26/12
to
"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> On 12/26/2012 12:15 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> Destroying the country is not progress, you lying motherfucker. Now, I
>> asked
>> you a question.
>
> Yawn.
>
>> What the fuck is it going to take to stop you stupid fucks
>> from running the country into a debt crisis in order to destroy the
>> country.
>
> We'll just have to keep beating regressive retards at the polls, until the
> worst of the damage you ham-handed incompetents keep inflicting on the
> country can be made good.
Why are you running up completely needless trillion dollar deficits for the
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> Destroying the country is not progress, you lying motherfucker. Now, I
>> asked
>> you a question.
>
> Yawn.
>
>> What the fuck is it going to take to stop you stupid fucks
>> from running the country into a debt crisis in order to destroy the
>> country.
>
> We'll just have to keep beating regressive retards at the polls, until the
> worst of the damage you ham-handed incompetents keep inflicting on the
> country can be made good.
sheer fucking fun of it while you bitch about Bush's 200 billion dollar
ones? Why do you lie so Goddamn much? Why do you hate America?
In reference to a 3.73 trillion dollar budget slated to run a 1.6 trillion
dollar deficit, Chuck Schumer accidentally said on an open mic about
republican efforts to cut a paltry 60 billion:
"SEN. CHARLES SCHUMER, D-N.Y.: I always use the word "extreme." That's what
the caucus instructed me to do the other week, extreme cuts and all these
riders. And Boehner's in a box. But if he supports the Tea Party, there is
going to inevitably [be] a shutdown. What we're trying to do here --"
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/transcript/government-shutdown-unavoidable#ixzz1I7ONwgM3
-Eddie Haskell
Jeff M
Dec 26, 2012, 1:50:34 PM12/26/12
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On 12/26/2012 12:33 PM, Santa Claus wrote:
> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> news:1OidnV3psNiy3EbN...@giganews.com...
>> On 12/26/2012 12:06 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote: [snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>
>>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive
>>>> political movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>>
>>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running
>>> this country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because
>>> you sure as mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar
>>> plus deficits year after year for the sheer delightful fun of it
>>> and goddamn America. What do you expect to gain from destroying
>>> your own country, you stupid fuck?
>>
> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> news:1OidnV3psNiy3EbN...@giganews.com...
>> On 12/26/2012 12:06 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote: [snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>
>>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive
>>>> political movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>>
>>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running
>>> this country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because
>>> you sure as mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar
>>> plus deficits year after year for the sheer delightful fun of it
>>> and goddamn America. What do you expect to gain from destroying
>>> your own country, you stupid fuck?
>>
>> You morons crashed the economy, exploded the deficit and
>> consistently expand government powers, regulations, deficits and
>> debt every single time your party gets its hands on political
>> power, and now are so busy pandering to the One Percenters with
>> your dogmatic refusals and obstructionism that you are pushing the
>> country off the so-called fiscal cliff.
>> We do understand that your ilk hates America, despises American values,
loathes the American people, and are eager to return America to some of
the worst social, political and economic conditions that prevailed circa
1900. But what do ignorant fools such as you think you're going to gain
for yourselves from your masters in return for doing their dirty work?
>
>> consistently expand government powers, regulations, deficits and
>> debt every single time your party gets its hands on political
>> power, and now are so busy pandering to the One Percenters with
>> your dogmatic refusals and obstructionism that you are pushing the
>> country off the so-called fiscal cliff.
>> We do understand that your ilk hates America, despises American values,
loathes the American people, and are eager to return America to some of
the worst social, political and economic conditions that prevailed circa
1900. But what do ignorant fools such as you think you're going to gain
for yourselves from your masters in return for doing their dirty work?
>
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 1:53:23 PM12/26/12
to
"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> On 12/26/2012 12:06 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>> after
>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>
> You morons crashed the economy
YOU crashed the economy by meddling with the free market and telling banks
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>
>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>> after
>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>
> You morons crashed the economy
how to run their businesses and you're doing it all again. Tell me why,
motherfucker. Tell me why you are trying to destroy your own goddamn
country. What the fuck is wrong with you? Why do you support bald faced
corrupt liars? Why?
"In what could be a repeat of the easy-lending cycle that led to the housing
crisis, the Justice Department has asked several banks to relax their
mortgage underwriting standards and approve loans for minorities with poor
credit as part of a new crackdown on alleged discrimination, according to
court documents reviewed by IBD."
"Prosecutions have already generated more than $20 million in loan
set-asides and other subsidies from banks that have settled out of court
rather than battle the federal government and risk being branded racist. An
additional 60 banks are under investigation, a DOJ spokeswoman says."
Settlements include setting aside prime-rate mortgages for low-income blacks
and Hispanics with blemished credit and even counting "public assistance" as
valid income in mortgage applications.
http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/2200
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 1:56:43 PM12/26/12
to
"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
what, you brain washed fuckwit. YOUR policies gave us the great depression
just like YOUR policies gave us the financial crisis. Why don't you sit up
and lie for us and tell us it was tax cuts that did it, you lying fuck?
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 1:58:23 PM12/26/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
a corrupt liar or a fuckwit, and I think that you're a lying fuckwit.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 2:01:49 PM12/26/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
slow economic growth. Fuck off. I'll answer that. Sheer political gain at
the expense of the country and goddamn America. Explain to us why you
support an anti-American as president who puts himself and his political
power ahead of the good of YOU and 300 million people. Explain that it us.
Explain to us why you want to FUCK yourself.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 2:02:59 PM12/26/12
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"Eddie Haskell" <dhd...@sqpjf.com> wrote in message
news:jNHCs.63481$ko4....@fed12.iad...
-Eddie Haskell
emoneyjoe
Dec 26, 2012, 2:31:05 PM12/26/12
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who the fuck wrote it, was it something
voted on by congress?
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
With all the nuts in the administration,
it is not a surprise to see something like
an official gossip document.
I have no idea what the author(s)
thought patriots might do in any event
outside an attack on the US by outside
forces.
The very thought that compliance
with any law could prevent crime is
an example of foolishness, the nuts
and the criminals never obey the law.
Stop the bull, odd that you resort to
quoting from the psychology department,
which in itself is a lot of bull, all based on
opinion.
What does a study of people in
12 countries have to do with the US?
The left has an inherent narcissist
attitude, thinking that things could
be perfect if only everybody thought
like them.
An example;
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18578846
Any person that thinks there can
be complete equality can never be
content, it is impossible.
And that is the essence of any
ideology. The ideology that I hate
the most is the one that would be
the most perfect if it were possible,
but it isn't possible with humans,
and people like Stalin and Hitler
must always be avoided.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 26, 2012, 3:36:20 PM12/26/12
to
Gunner
Dec 26, 2012, 7:47:48 PM12/26/12
to
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:06:56 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <dhd...@sqpjf.com>
wrote:
From another news group....
"Not good.
I gave 30 days notice at my job a week ago. Reason was absolutely no
overtime for over 6 months.
I live in a single income household, and no overtime equals
starvation.
They let me go, gave me 2 weeks vacation, 3 personal days, paid my
insurance, contributed to my health savings etc...
I cant complain.
But the reason they did that was proberbly due to no work whatsoever.
We let our salesman go 2 weeks before.
So I go look for jobs Christmas week, and there is a ton of work out
there.
Of course it's hard to get something going at Christmas and new years,
but I found everyone working Christmas eve. I have a really good
interview
New years eve.
So RIGHT NOW things are kickass in Florida for all types of machining.
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
However....
It's about to change for the extreme worse.
Here's why...
This fiscal cliff nonsence, or as I call it "Obamas way to get the
money for
his grow the government campaign".
I wasn't worried at first till I looked into it.
it's bad.
First thing to happen is taxes. In January we will all experience the
largest tax hike in American history.
Our paychecks will be hit the second week of January with...
Payroll tax increase from the Bush tax cuts. We all know this.
The dems have been pissed about us keeping our money since Bush did
that. (I
miss mr. Bush)
That alone is trivial. maybe 30-50 a week.
But it seems across the board will be hit, state, local and federal
tax
increase.
You poor fucks in California will prolly be smoked 100$ a week or
more.
But thats just the tip of the iceburg.
All kinds of taxes will increase on all kinds of goods and services.
Gas prices will soar due to tax breaks for oil companies being
dropped. they
will pass it on for sure.
But even that doesnt scare me. With overtime I can overcome a greedy
government.
There lies the problem.
401K contribution limit is being literally cut in half.
Those investments are what is powering our economy. Its such a
monstrously
huge amount of money that will stop flowing into our industries.
We are fucked.
It gets better....
Unemployment supported on the federal lever is being dropped.
that would be a good thing if it didnt happen at once.
Every person on unemployment over 26 weeks will suddenly be dropped.
These people will be desperate as fuck, and willing to work for
peanuts.
A lot of those people have houses....so I expect this will start
another
housing crash.
Military.
OMG. They dont cancel weopon sales, they get rid of people when this
happens.
Bases will be closing again. these people for the most part have no
skills
the private sector needs.
they will flood the job market, again working for peanuts.
Our credit will drop another step, making our money as a government
worth
less.
This will put a hold on places like Ratheon, Lockheed Martin etc...
More toolmakers in need of work.
I'm not even gonna mention our health insurance going up due to them
having
to insure preexisting conditions, and cover people 25 years old on
their
parents plan.
(I know preexisting is good, but it's gonna make insurance premiums go
up
2-3 times normal).
First in American history Downgraded credit.
Largest tax hike in American history.
Most percentage of people on government assistance in American
history.
For all of you who voted for obama...i say whole harditly...FUCK U!
Thanks a
lot assholes."
The methodology of the left has always been:
1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
wrote:
"Not good.
I gave 30 days notice at my job a week ago. Reason was absolutely no
overtime for over 6 months.
I live in a single income household, and no overtime equals
starvation.
They let me go, gave me 2 weeks vacation, 3 personal days, paid my
insurance, contributed to my health savings etc...
I cant complain.
But the reason they did that was proberbly due to no work whatsoever.
We let our salesman go 2 weeks before.
So I go look for jobs Christmas week, and there is a ton of work out
there.
Of course it's hard to get something going at Christmas and new years,
but I found everyone working Christmas eve. I have a really good
interview
New years eve.
So RIGHT NOW things are kickass in Florida for all types of machining.
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
However....
It's about to change for the extreme worse.
Here's why...
This fiscal cliff nonsence, or as I call it "Obamas way to get the
money for
his grow the government campaign".
I wasn't worried at first till I looked into it.
it's bad.
First thing to happen is taxes. In January we will all experience the
largest tax hike in American history.
Our paychecks will be hit the second week of January with...
Payroll tax increase from the Bush tax cuts. We all know this.
The dems have been pissed about us keeping our money since Bush did
that. (I
miss mr. Bush)
That alone is trivial. maybe 30-50 a week.
But it seems across the board will be hit, state, local and federal
tax
increase.
You poor fucks in California will prolly be smoked 100$ a week or
more.
But thats just the tip of the iceburg.
All kinds of taxes will increase on all kinds of goods and services.
Gas prices will soar due to tax breaks for oil companies being
dropped. they
will pass it on for sure.
But even that doesnt scare me. With overtime I can overcome a greedy
government.
There lies the problem.
401K contribution limit is being literally cut in half.
Those investments are what is powering our economy. Its such a
monstrously
huge amount of money that will stop flowing into our industries.
We are fucked.
It gets better....
Unemployment supported on the federal lever is being dropped.
that would be a good thing if it didnt happen at once.
Every person on unemployment over 26 weeks will suddenly be dropped.
These people will be desperate as fuck, and willing to work for
peanuts.
A lot of those people have houses....so I expect this will start
another
housing crash.
Military.
OMG. They dont cancel weopon sales, they get rid of people when this
happens.
Bases will be closing again. these people for the most part have no
skills
the private sector needs.
they will flood the job market, again working for peanuts.
Our credit will drop another step, making our money as a government
worth
less.
This will put a hold on places like Ratheon, Lockheed Martin etc...
More toolmakers in need of work.
I'm not even gonna mention our health insurance going up due to them
having
to insure preexisting conditions, and cover people 25 years old on
their
parents plan.
(I know preexisting is good, but it's gonna make insurance premiums go
up
2-3 times normal).
First in American history Downgraded credit.
Largest tax hike in American history.
Most percentage of people on government assistance in American
history.
For all of you who voted for obama...i say whole harditly...FUCK U!
Thanks a
lot assholes."
The methodology of the left has always been:
1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
Gunner
Dec 26, 2012, 7:51:50 PM12/26/12
to
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:53:23 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <dhd...@sqpjf.com>
wrote:
>>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>
>>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>>
>>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>>> after
>>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>>
>> You morons crashed the economy
>
>YOU crashed the economy by meddling with the free market and telling banks
>how to run their businesses and you're doing it all again. Tell me why,
>motherfucker. Tell me why you are trying to destroy your own goddamn
>country. What the fuck is wrong with you? Why do you support bald faced
>corrupt liars? Why?
UCLA Newsroom > All Stories > News Releases
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists
calculate
By Meg Sullivan August 10, 2004
Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression
dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously
thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.
After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole
and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies
signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long
years.
"Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great
mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always
worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump,"
said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA's Department of Economics. "We found
that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with
ill-conceived stimulus policies."
In an article in the August issue of the Journal of Political Economy,
Ohanian and Cole blame specific anti-competition and pro-labor
measures that Roosevelt promoted and signed into law June 16, 1933.
"President Roosevelt believed that excessive competition was
responsible for the Depression by reducing prices and wages, and by
extension reducing employment and demand for goods and services," said
Cole, also a UCLA professor of economics. "So he came up with a
recovery package that would be unimaginable today, allowing businesses
in every industry to collude without the threat of antitrust
prosecution and workers to demand salaries about 25 percent above
where they ought to have been, given market forces. The economy was
poised for a beautiful recovery, but that recovery was stalled by
these misguided policies."
Using data collected in 1929 by the Conference Board and the Bureau of
Labor Statistics, Cole and Ohanian were able to establish average
wages and prices across a range of industries just prior to the
Depression. By adjusting for annual increases in productivity, they
were able to use the 1929 benchmark to figure out what prices and
wages would have been during every year of the Depression had
Roosevelt's policies not gone into effect. They then compared those
figures with actual prices and wages as reflected in the Conference
Board data.
In the three years following the implementation of Roosevelt's
policies, wages in 11 key industries averaged 25 percent higher than
they otherwise would have done, the economists calculate. But
unemployment was also 25 percent higher than it should have been,
given gains in productivity.
Meanwhile, prices across 19 industries averaged 23 percent above where
they should have been, given the state of the economy. With goods and
services that much harder for consumers to afford, demand stalled and
the gross national product floundered at 27 percent below where it
otherwise might have been.
"High wages and high prices in an economic slump run contrary to
everything we know about market forces in economic downturns," Ohanian
said. "As we've seen in the past several years, salaries and prices
fall when unemployment is high. By artificially inflating both, the
New Deal policies short-circuited the market's self-correcting
forces."
The policies were contained in the National Industrial Recovery Act
(NIRA), which exempted industries from antitrust prosecution if they
agreed to enter into collective bargaining agreements that
significantly raised wages. Because protection from antitrust
prosecution all but ensured higher prices for goods and services, a
wide range of industries took the bait, Cole and Ohanian found. By
1934 more than 500 industries, which accounted for nearly 80 percent
of private, non-agricultural employment, had entered into the
collective bargaining agreements called for under NIRA.
Cole and Ohanian calculate that NIRA and its aftermath account for 60
percent of the weak recovery. Without the policies, they contend that
the Depression would have ended in 1936 instead of the year when they
believe the slump actually ended: 1943.
Roosevelt's role in lifting the nation out of the Great Depression has
been so revered that Time magazine readers cited it in 1999 when
naming him the 20th century's second-most influential figure.
"This is exciting and valuable research," said Robert E. Lucas Jr.,
the 1995 Nobel Laureate in economics, and the John Dewey Distinguished
Service Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago. "The
prevention and cure of depressions is a central mission of
macroeconomics, and if we can't understand what happened in the 1930s,
how can we be sure it won't happen again?"
NIRA's role in prolonging the Depression has not been more closely
scrutinized because the Supreme Court declared the act
unconstitutional within two years of its passage.
"Historians have assumed that the policies didn't have an impact
because they were too short-lived, but the proof is in the pudding,"
Ohanian said. "We show that they really did artificially inflate wages
and prices."
Even after being deemed unconstitutional, Roosevelt's anti-competition
policies persisted — albeit under a different guise, the scholars
found. Ohanian and Cole painstakingly documented the extent to which
the Roosevelt administration looked the other way as industries once
protected by NIRA continued to engage in price-fixing practices for
four more years.
The number of antitrust cases brought by the Department of Justice
fell from an average of 12.5 cases per year during the 1920s to an
average of 6.5 cases per year from 1935 to 1938, the scholars found.
Collusion had become so widespread that one Department of Interior
official complained of receiving identical bids from a protected
industry (steel) on 257 different occasions between mid-1935 and
mid-1936. The bids were not only identical but also 50 percent higher
than foreign steel prices. Without competition, wholesale prices
remained inflated, averaging 14 percent higher than they would have
been without the troublesome practices, the UCLA economists calculate.
NIRA's labor provisions, meanwhile, were strengthened in the National
Relations Act, signed into law in 1935. As union membership doubled,
so did labor's bargaining power, rising from 14 million strike days in
1936 to about 28 million in 1937. By 1939 wages in protected
industries remained 24 percent to 33 percent above where they should
have been, based on 1929 figures, Cole and Ohanian calculate.
Unemployment persisted. By 1939 the U.S. unemployment rate was 17.2
percent, down somewhat from its 1933 peak of 24.9 percent but still
remarkably high. By comparison, in May 2003, the unemployment rate of
6.1 percent was the highest in nine years.
Recovery came only after the Department of Justice dramatically
stepped up enforcement of antitrust cases nearly four-fold and
organized labor suffered a string of setbacks, the economists found.
"The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced
generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not
be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government
intervention was required to achieve good outcomes," Cole said.
"Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very
rapid had the government not intervened."
-UCLA-
LSMS368
wrote:
>>>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>
>>>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>>>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>>>
>>> You tell us what will stop you stupid motherfuckers from running this
>>> country into an economy destroying debt crisis then, because you sure as
>>> mother fuck can't be reasoned with. Trillion dollar plus deficits year
>>> after
>>> year for the sheer delightful fun of it and goddamn America. What do you
>>> expect to gain from destroying your own country, you stupid fuck?
>>
>> You morons crashed the economy
>
>YOU crashed the economy by meddling with the free market and telling banks
>how to run their businesses and you're doing it all again. Tell me why,
>motherfucker. Tell me why you are trying to destroy your own goddamn
>country. What the fuck is wrong with you? Why do you support bald faced
>corrupt liars? Why?
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists
calculate
By Meg Sullivan August 10, 2004
Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression
dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously
thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.
After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole
and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies
signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long
years.
"Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great
mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always
worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump,"
said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA's Department of Economics. "We found
that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with
ill-conceived stimulus policies."
In an article in the August issue of the Journal of Political Economy,
Ohanian and Cole blame specific anti-competition and pro-labor
measures that Roosevelt promoted and signed into law June 16, 1933.
"President Roosevelt believed that excessive competition was
responsible for the Depression by reducing prices and wages, and by
extension reducing employment and demand for goods and services," said
Cole, also a UCLA professor of economics. "So he came up with a
recovery package that would be unimaginable today, allowing businesses
in every industry to collude without the threat of antitrust
prosecution and workers to demand salaries about 25 percent above
where they ought to have been, given market forces. The economy was
poised for a beautiful recovery, but that recovery was stalled by
these misguided policies."
Using data collected in 1929 by the Conference Board and the Bureau of
Labor Statistics, Cole and Ohanian were able to establish average
wages and prices across a range of industries just prior to the
Depression. By adjusting for annual increases in productivity, they
were able to use the 1929 benchmark to figure out what prices and
wages would have been during every year of the Depression had
Roosevelt's policies not gone into effect. They then compared those
figures with actual prices and wages as reflected in the Conference
Board data.
In the three years following the implementation of Roosevelt's
policies, wages in 11 key industries averaged 25 percent higher than
they otherwise would have done, the economists calculate. But
unemployment was also 25 percent higher than it should have been,
given gains in productivity.
Meanwhile, prices across 19 industries averaged 23 percent above where
they should have been, given the state of the economy. With goods and
services that much harder for consumers to afford, demand stalled and
the gross national product floundered at 27 percent below where it
otherwise might have been.
"High wages and high prices in an economic slump run contrary to
everything we know about market forces in economic downturns," Ohanian
said. "As we've seen in the past several years, salaries and prices
fall when unemployment is high. By artificially inflating both, the
New Deal policies short-circuited the market's self-correcting
forces."
The policies were contained in the National Industrial Recovery Act
(NIRA), which exempted industries from antitrust prosecution if they
agreed to enter into collective bargaining agreements that
significantly raised wages. Because protection from antitrust
prosecution all but ensured higher prices for goods and services, a
wide range of industries took the bait, Cole and Ohanian found. By
1934 more than 500 industries, which accounted for nearly 80 percent
of private, non-agricultural employment, had entered into the
collective bargaining agreements called for under NIRA.
Cole and Ohanian calculate that NIRA and its aftermath account for 60
percent of the weak recovery. Without the policies, they contend that
the Depression would have ended in 1936 instead of the year when they
believe the slump actually ended: 1943.
Roosevelt's role in lifting the nation out of the Great Depression has
been so revered that Time magazine readers cited it in 1999 when
naming him the 20th century's second-most influential figure.
"This is exciting and valuable research," said Robert E. Lucas Jr.,
the 1995 Nobel Laureate in economics, and the John Dewey Distinguished
Service Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago. "The
prevention and cure of depressions is a central mission of
macroeconomics, and if we can't understand what happened in the 1930s,
how can we be sure it won't happen again?"
NIRA's role in prolonging the Depression has not been more closely
scrutinized because the Supreme Court declared the act
unconstitutional within two years of its passage.
"Historians have assumed that the policies didn't have an impact
because they were too short-lived, but the proof is in the pudding,"
Ohanian said. "We show that they really did artificially inflate wages
and prices."
Even after being deemed unconstitutional, Roosevelt's anti-competition
policies persisted — albeit under a different guise, the scholars
found. Ohanian and Cole painstakingly documented the extent to which
the Roosevelt administration looked the other way as industries once
protected by NIRA continued to engage in price-fixing practices for
four more years.
The number of antitrust cases brought by the Department of Justice
fell from an average of 12.5 cases per year during the 1920s to an
average of 6.5 cases per year from 1935 to 1938, the scholars found.
Collusion had become so widespread that one Department of Interior
official complained of receiving identical bids from a protected
industry (steel) on 257 different occasions between mid-1935 and
mid-1936. The bids were not only identical but also 50 percent higher
than foreign steel prices. Without competition, wholesale prices
remained inflated, averaging 14 percent higher than they would have
been without the troublesome practices, the UCLA economists calculate.
NIRA's labor provisions, meanwhile, were strengthened in the National
Relations Act, signed into law in 1935. As union membership doubled,
so did labor's bargaining power, rising from 14 million strike days in
1936 to about 28 million in 1937. By 1939 wages in protected
industries remained 24 percent to 33 percent above where they should
have been, based on 1929 figures, Cole and Ohanian calculate.
Unemployment persisted. By 1939 the U.S. unemployment rate was 17.2
percent, down somewhat from its 1933 peak of 24.9 percent but still
remarkably high. By comparison, in May 2003, the unemployment rate of
6.1 percent was the highest in nine years.
Recovery came only after the Department of Justice dramatically
stepped up enforcement of antitrust cases nearly four-fold and
organized labor suffered a string of setbacks, the economists found.
"The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced
generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not
be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government
intervention was required to achieve good outcomes," Cole said.
"Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very
rapid had the government not intervened."
-UCLA-
LSMS368
Gunner
Dec 26, 2012, 7:53:02 PM12/26/12
to
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:47:18 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <dhd...@sqpjf.com>
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx
Too_Many_Tools
Dec 26, 2012, 7:58:51 PM12/26/12
to
On Dec 25, 9:39 pm, Eric Holder Rifle Sales <erichol...@gunsales.org>
wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/nyregion/gunman-who-shot-firefighters-
> left-chilling-note.html?_r=0
>
> WEBSTER, N.Y. On Monday morning when darkness was still raw, William
> Spengler Jr. armed himself with a rifle, a revolver and a shotgun. He had
> killed before. Harboring a deep-seated hatred of his sister, who lived
> with him, and a desire to harm his neighbors on a beachfront strip off
> Lake Ontario, Mr. Spengler composed a rough, typewritten plan that
> foretold of the destruction to come.
>
> I still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn
> down and do what I like doing best killing people, Mr. Spengler, 62,
> wrote, in a note the police recovered.
>
> It had been 32 years since he beat his grandmother to death with a hammer
> in the Lake Road house next to his.
>
> As Christmas Eve dawned in this suburb of Rochester, local authorities
> say, Mr. Spengler set fire to a car, as a trap. When an engine company
> came roaring down the street, he started shooting at the first responders,
> most likely from his Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle. It was the same type
> of semiautomatic weapon used in the school shooting 10 days earlier in
> Newtown, Conn.
>
> He was equipped to go to war to kill innocent people, the Webster police
> chief, Gerald L. Pickering, said of Mr. Spengler.
>
> The authorities say Mr. Spengler fired shots that killed two volunteer
> firefighters from long range and seriously wounded two others, and set a
> raging inferno. The police found him dead on a berm about five hours after
> the siege started, with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
>
> On Tuesday, the authorities added another likely victim: Cheryl Spengler,
> 67, the gunmans sister. Chief Pickering said human remains were found at
> the gunmans house, 191 Lake Road, that they believed were of Ms. Spengler.
> The Monroe County medical examiners office did not return requests for
> comment on the identification of the remains or the cause of death.
wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/nyregion/gunman-who-shot-firefighters-
> left-chilling-note.html?_r=0
>
> WEBSTER, N.Y. On Monday morning when darkness was still raw, William
> Spengler Jr. armed himself with a rifle, a revolver and a shotgun. He had
> killed before. Harboring a deep-seated hatred of his sister, who lived
> with him, and a desire to harm his neighbors on a beachfront strip off
> Lake Ontario, Mr. Spengler composed a rough, typewritten plan that
> foretold of the destruction to come.
>
> I still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn
> down and do what I like doing best killing people, Mr. Spengler, 62,
> wrote, in a note the police recovered.
>
> It had been 32 years since he beat his grandmother to death with a hammer
> in the Lake Road house next to his.
>
> As Christmas Eve dawned in this suburb of Rochester, local authorities
> say, Mr. Spengler set fire to a car, as a trap. When an engine company
> came roaring down the street, he started shooting at the first responders,
> most likely from his Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle. It was the same type
> of semiautomatic weapon used in the school shooting 10 days earlier in
> Newtown, Conn.
>
> He was equipped to go to war to kill innocent people, the Webster police
> chief, Gerald L. Pickering, said of Mr. Spengler.
>
> The authorities say Mr. Spengler fired shots that killed two volunteer
> firefighters from long range and seriously wounded two others, and set a
> raging inferno. The police found him dead on a berm about five hours after
> the siege started, with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
>
> On Tuesday, the authorities added another likely victim: Cheryl Spengler,
> 67, the gunmans sister. Chief Pickering said human remains were found at
> the gunmans house, 191 Lake Road, that they believed were of Ms. Spengler.
> The Monroe County medical examiners office did not return requests for
> comment on the identification of the remains or the cause of death.
>
> Mr. Spenglers note, Chief Pickering said, contained no motive, just
> ramblings, and spoke only to a murderous intent. He said he was not at
> liberty to disclose it in full because of the investigation.
>
> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: n...@netfront.net ---
> Mr. Spenglers note, Chief Pickering said, contained no motive, just
> ramblings, and spoke only to a murderous intent. He said he was not at
> liberty to disclose it in full because of the investigation.
>
David1950
Dec 26, 2012, 8:36:56 PM12/26/12
to
"Gunner" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:kj6nd8tivdmnjf0ct...@4ax.com...
: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:06:56 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <dhd...@sqpjf.com>
: wrote:
:
: >
: >"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
: >news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
: >> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
: >> [snip]
: >>
:
: >
: >"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
: >news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
: >> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
: >> [snip]
: There lies the problem.
: 401K contribution limit is being literally cut in half.
: Those investments are what is powering our economy. Its such a
: monstrously
: huge amount of money that will stop flowing into our industries.
:
: Those investments are what is powering our economy. Its such a
: monstrously
: huge amount of money that will stop flowing into our industries.
that's really fucking STUPID!!!!! gomer,
the 401k money goes into the stock market, not into industry,
it does not go from the stock market into industry either dipshit
you hillbillies are dumber than dog shit
Too_Many_Liberal_Fools
Dec 26, 2012, 8:55:42 PM12/26/12
to
On 26 Dec 2012, Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> posted some
news:6f0b00d0-a50b-45c9...@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
The Obama voter stated he was disappointed that there were no innocent
school children to murder.
--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---
news:6f0b00d0-a50b-45c9...@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
school children to murder.
--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---
GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Dec 27, 2012, 6:26:41 AM12/27/12
to
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:15:17 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <dhd...@sqpjf.com>
wrote:
>
movement not progressive.
Nobody could ever accuse you of being progressive.
wrote:
>
>"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>
>Destroying the country is not progress, you lying motherfucker.
You must have misread, he said right-wing regressive political
>news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
>> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
>> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>
>Destroying the country is not progress, you lying motherfucker.
movement not progressive.
Nobody could ever accuse you of being progressive.
emoneyjoe
Dec 27, 2012, 11:13:26 AM12/27/12
to
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 03:26:41 -0800, GOP_Decline_and_Fall <D...@null.net>
wrote:
Not as long as progressive means
underhanded, lying bastard communist
SOBs, no.
wrote:
underhanded, lying bastard communist
SOBs, no.
GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Dec 27, 2012, 11:50:52 AM12/27/12
to
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:01:49 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <dhd...@sqpjf.com>
That's the question you should be asking yourself Eddie with
Republicans STILL desperately trying to cripple the recovery from the
mess they created, sabotage Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid,
rip off the disabled veterans and bring the economy to it's knees.
Don't delude yourself Americans know EXACTLY who to blame!
Fiscal cliff failure looks likely due to Boehner's House
'dictatorship'
"can't imagine their consciences. They are out there, wherever they
are ... and we're here trying to get something done."
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/27/16190675-reid-fiscal-cliff-failure-looks-likely-due-to-boehners-house-dictatorship?lite
The Senate�s top Democrat said Thursday that he was pessimistic that
Washington could avoid the impending fiscal cliff, accusing House
Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, of running the lower chamber as a
�dictatorship.�
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he was unsure there
was enough time between now and the end of the year to reach a deal to
avoid the combination of spending cuts and tax hikes set to take
effect on Jan. 1.
Reid said �the only viable escape route� was for the GOP-controlled
House to give its approval to a Senate bill that would preserve
existing tax rates on income under $250,000
�Everyone knows that if they had brought up the Senate-passed bill, it
would pass overwhelmingly. But the speaker says, no we can't do that,�
Reid said on the Senate floor this morning. �It's [the House] being
operated by a dictatorship of the speaker.�
Republicans STILL desperately trying to cripple the recovery from the
mess they created, sabotage Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid,
rip off the disabled veterans and bring the economy to it's knees.
Don't delude yourself Americans know EXACTLY who to blame!
Fiscal cliff failure looks likely due to Boehner's House
'dictatorship'
"can't imagine their consciences. They are out there, wherever they
are ... and we're here trying to get something done."
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/27/16190675-reid-fiscal-cliff-failure-looks-likely-due-to-boehners-house-dictatorship?lite
The Senate�s top Democrat said Thursday that he was pessimistic that
Washington could avoid the impending fiscal cliff, accusing House
Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, of running the lower chamber as a
�dictatorship.�
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he was unsure there
was enough time between now and the end of the year to reach a deal to
avoid the combination of spending cuts and tax hikes set to take
effect on Jan. 1.
Reid said �the only viable escape route� was for the GOP-controlled
House to give its approval to a Senate bill that would preserve
existing tax rates on income under $250,000
�Everyone knows that if they had brought up the Senate-passed bill, it
would pass overwhelmingly. But the speaker says, no we can't do that,�
Reid said on the Senate floor this morning. �It's [the House] being
operated by a dictatorship of the speaker.�
GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Dec 27, 2012, 12:04:02 PM12/27/12
to
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 11:13:26 -0500, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
wrote:
By no stretch of the imagination does it mean the atrophy, decay and
social degeneration beloved of Eddie.
So you too want to go back to Eddie's halcyon slave owning days?
Where does that leave your emoney?
Or did you forget there are no computers in Eddie's ideal world?
What an odd wacky world you live in Joe.
You should get a part time job to get you out of the house and meet a
few normal folk.
wrote:
social degeneration beloved of Eddie.
So you too want to go back to Eddie's halcyon slave owning days?
Where does that leave your emoney?
Or did you forget there are no computers in Eddie's ideal world?
What an odd wacky world you live in Joe.
You should get a part time job to get you out of the house and meet a
few normal folk.
emoneyjoe
Dec 27, 2012, 4:30:36 PM12/27/12
to
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 08:50:52 -0800, GOP_Decline_and_Fall <D...@null.net>
wrote:
>operated by a dictatorship of the speaker.”
Does anybody know what is going on
here, why is the congress and the president
saying the same thing and doing the same
thing they did a year ago, trying to figure
out how to repeal a bill they passed then?
Has the debt problem ended, is there
enough tax revenue, are there more jobs,
what has changed?
Unless money starts growing on trees,
some austerity is needed, but the word on
the street is that austerity can't be afforded.
wrote:
Does anybody know what is going on
here, why is the congress and the president
saying the same thing and doing the same
thing they did a year ago, trying to figure
out how to repeal a bill they passed then?
Has the debt problem ended, is there
enough tax revenue, are there more jobs,
what has changed?
Unless money starts growing on trees,
some austerity is needed, but the word on
the street is that austerity can't be afforded.
emoneyjoe
Dec 27, 2012, 4:40:24 PM12/27/12
to
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:04:02 -0800, GOP_Decline_and_Fall <D...@null.net>
Eddy wasn't here in 1865.
>Where does that leave your emoney?
>Or did you forget there are no computers in Eddie's ideal world?
This is today, and obviously the
communists are aware they can't win
using their name, so they are trying
to snow people.
>What an odd wacky world you live in Joe.
And yours is like Russia in 1919,
or Germany in 1935.
>You should get a part time job to get you out of the house and meet a
>few normal folk.
Everybody I know is normal, in
debt over their head, and complaining
about taxes even if they don't pay any,
The only socialist nuts are those
who post garbage here.
>Where does that leave your emoney?
>Or did you forget there are no computers in Eddie's ideal world?
communists are aware they can't win
using their name, so they are trying
to snow people.
>What an odd wacky world you live in Joe.
or Germany in 1935.
>You should get a part time job to get you out of the house and meet a
>few normal folk.
debt over their head, and complaining
about taxes even if they don't pay any,
The only socialist nuts are those
who post garbage here.
Gunner
Dec 27, 2012, 5:48:57 PM12/27/12
to
Sid9
Dec 28, 2012, 6:42:05 PM12/28/12
to
"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
news:sNGdnZhR5cjLp0bN...@giganews.com...
> On 12/26/2012 11:52 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
> [snip]
>
>
>> Goddamn America and fuck you.
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>
> There we have it, the mantra of the new right-wing regressive political
> movement, in a nutshell. Good job, Eddie!
>
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