No more work for Nemo!!!!!! OT
nemo
Just arrived back with aching feets from the Job Centre/Unemployment Office
(it's around 2 miles away) after signing off Job Squeakers' Allowance (Dole)
for good and onto Pension Credit - the government's marvellous new way of
getting unemployable old farts like me off the unemployment statistics -
which consists of twice as much per week as the Dole plus full Housing and
Council Tax Benefits - and with ***no compulsion to look for work anymore!!
(v.b.)
Good, innit?!!! - AND I also get the old fogey's official badge of honour: a
free bus and London Underground/Docklands Light Railway pass, AND a winter
fuel supplement of, I believe, around £200. These last two used only to be
available to men over 65!
I don't often find anything nice to say about our damned government but in
spite of their rather obvious ulterior motive, for once I can compliment
them on being quite generous!!
I have also just had the very great pleasure removing all but a very few
essential pieces of the job-seeking stuff from my PC and the associated
paperwork from my flies - I mean my files. There ain't room in there! ;o) -
and un-subscribing from the jobs bulletins from all the various agencies I
*was* with - most of which have proved pretty-well useless!
For: "We regret to inform you that your experience and skills are
insufficient for the post in question," read, "You're 59!!! Sod off old
fart!!!!
Ohhhhhhhhhh!
Happy days are here again,
Nemo's time is all his own again,
No more work to make him groan again!
Happy days are here again!
Trials and troubles are gone!
There's no more damned signing on!!!! Ohhhhhh . . .
Happy days are here again,
The right-wing sods can-be-jealous-again,
But no-way-can-they call me a scrounger again! ***
Happy days are here again!
Oi!
Aardvark never did anyone any harm?? Go ask an ant!
Ohhhh! It's really like being in heaven, to retire in 2007!!
JD Cooper
> What a blessed reliefffffffffffffffffffffffff!
>
> Just arrived back with aching feets from the Job Centre/Unemployment Office
> (it's around 2 miles away) after signing off Job Squeakers' Allowance (Dole)
> for good and onto Pension Credit - the government's marvellous new way of
> getting unemployable old farts like me off the unemployment statistics -
> which consists of twice as much per week as the Dole plus full Housing and
> Council Tax Benefits - and with ***no compulsion to look for work anymore!!
> (v.b.)
>
> Good, innit?!!! - AND I also get the old fogey's official badge of honour: a
> free bus and London Underground/Docklands Light Railway pass, AND a winter
> fuel supplement of, I believe, around Ł200. These last two used only to be
Interesting that I often see/hear/read stories of how companies actively
seek out older, more seasoned employees... them being something the
current set of juveniles are not which is steady, reliable, and have
work ethic. The problem with these stories is that they're bunk! I know
of not one single fellow my age looking for work to be hirable. (Except
at minimum wage jobs greeting people at Wal Mart.) There's no way for me
to think I'd be hired by anyone in my profession at my age now.
When Toyota was building its new truck plant here I sorted thru the jobs
offerings and applied (on a lark) for several of the jobs. Guess what my
response were on each....?
JD
Mick Fanner
> Interesting that I often see/hear/read stories of how companies actively
> seek out older, more seasoned employees... them being something the
> current set of juveniles are not which is steady, reliable, and have
> work ethic. The problem with these stories is that they're bunk! I know
> of not one single fellow my age looking for work to be hirable. (Except
> at minimum wage jobs greeting people at Wal Mart.) There's no way for me
> to think I'd be hired by anyone in my profession at my age now.
Dunno how old you are JD, but my buddy runs his own business and has
a policy of actively seeking out persons who would qualify for *this*
group. He uses young thrusting types on the sales staff but when it comes
to all other situations, he eschews yoof like the plague.
Of course his problem is that he's not actually allowed to specify age in
any advert for any vacancy and he cannot legally refuse someone a job
because they are too young.
And he doesn't automatically retire folks when they get to 65 (gents
retiring age over here). In fact he's got the hump because his right hand
man passed 65 last year and had the damned gall to leave. <lol>
--
Mick. <Magister mundi sum!>
"WARNING: The message is mostly quoted text."
Dink
<9ZednfCQVZg1unLY...@texas.net> :
>nemo wrote:
>
>> What a blessed reliefffffffffffffffffffffffff!
>>
>> Just arrived back with aching feets from the Job Centre/Unemployment Office
>> (it's around 2 miles away) after signing off Job Squeakers' Allowance (Dole)
>> for good and onto Pension Credit - the government's marvellous new way of
>> getting unemployable old farts like me off the unemployment statistics -
>> which consists of twice as much per week as the Dole plus full Housing and
>> Council Tax Benefits - and with ***no compulsion to look for work anymore!!
>> (v.b.)
>>
>> Good, innit?!!! - AND I also get the old fogey's official badge of honour: a
>> free bus and London Underground/Docklands Light Railway pass, AND a winter
>> fuel supplement of, I believe, around £200. These last two used only to be
"Your qualifications do not a match any of our present needs. Your
resume' will be kept on file for 90 days in the event an opening
suitable to your skill and experience may occur."
--
Dink
N 30.21, W 97.81 http://snipurl.com/whereiam
http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/
JD Cooper
That's prolly because the man runs a small, private enterprise and not a
main stream company. I was speaking about main stream companies. No,
they can't "necessarily" consider age over here, but they *DO*.
:-)
JD
JD Cooper
similar. funny thing iz that I only applied for the positions I was
qualified for or could easily qualify into.
I've made the joke many times that a white man over fifty looking for a
job is a day dreamer.
JD
Mick Fanner
> That's prolly because the man runs a small, private enterprise and not a
> main stream company.
It's true what you say. He's his own man employing about 15 people and he
knows from experience that the silver haired brigade aren't going to trash
his vans by racing other vans, and they generally turn up in the mornings.
Sue
"JD Cooper" <b...@humbug.net> wrote in message
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I have, on occasion, applied for jobs that I was well qualified for. But
they always went to some young thing who would last a couple months and
move on to greener pastures. Where as an older person would still be there.
IMHO.
sue
JD Cooper
ya know... I think it's because so many of these companies do not want
to hire people for the long term. It's odd how that the number crunchers
conclude it's cheaper to have employees come and go frequently than stay
on and on. It may very well be true.
JD
**Dalin**
>What a blessed reliefffffffffffffffffffffffff!
>
>Just arrived back with aching feets from the Job Centre/Unemployment Office
>(it's around 2 miles away) after signing off Job Squeakers' Allowance (Dole)
>for good and onto Pension Credit - the government's marvellous new way of
>getting unemployable old farts like me off the unemployment statistics -
>which consists of twice as much per week as the Dole plus full Housing and
>Council Tax Benefits - and with ***no compulsion to look for work anymore!!
>(v.b.)
>
>Good, innit?!!! - AND I also get the old fogey's official badge of honour: a
>free bus and London Underground/Docklands Light Railway pass, AND a winter
>fuel supplement of, I believe, around Ł200. These last two used only to be
LOL! I guess you aren't an American then. I'm still trying to figure
out who you are, but I must congratulate you anyway. Your happiness
is contagious!
Dalin
**Dalin**
David was involuntarily retired at 48 and it took him three years to
find something else despite all his experience. I think it matters if
you are in a technical field. many employers here don't feel the "old
timers" have kept up and often they know so much more than the
younguns. But they can also get the younguns at a much cheaper salary
too.
Dalin
Sue
> hire people for the long term. It's odd how that the number crunchers
> conclude it's cheaper to have employees come and go frequently than stay
> on and on. It may very well be true.
>
> JD
I had a boss once that remarked when someone said they were going to
quit...."Let 'em. There's always a long line to replace them!"
Ha
sue
Joan F (MI)
and love it. People talk about having trouble adjusting to retirement, it
took me only as long as it took to drive home on my last day.
**Dalin**
wrote:
>The message from **Dalin** <lj...@mindspring.com> contains these words:
>
>> LOL! I guess you aren't an American then. I'm still trying to figure
>> out who you are, but I must congratulate you anyway. Your happiness
>> is contagious!
>
>He's a lazy, idle layabout, who hasn't worked for years...this
>wonderful bloody government of ours actually _pays_ people to
>sit around on their arses and do nothing...no damned wonder this
>once great country of ours is going down the bloody pan! 8-(
Oops!
Dalin
JD Cooper
as recently the early 90's the big cheese of the company that bought our
little company said... "if you leave, we'll have your ass replaced by
the time the door hits your ass".
More odd is that the behemoth company that owns us now sells only one
product: SERVICE.
More interesting still is that they sign unprofitable service contracts
and then lay off the service people, not themselves or the salesmen that
let the contracts.
I sure wish we could buy ourselves back.
JD
JD Cooper
Anne Jackson wrote:
> The message from **Dalin** <lj...@mindspring.com> contains these words:
>
>
>>LOL! I guess you aren't an American then. I'm still trying to figure
>>out who you are, but I must congratulate you anyway. Your happiness
>>is contagious!
>
>
> He's a lazy, idle layabout, who hasn't worked for years...this
> wonderful bloody government of ours actually _pays_ people to
> sit around on their arses and do nothing...no damned wonder this
> once great country of ours is going down the bloody pan! 8-(
ouch!
well, same here.
JD
Mikals12
"JD Cooper" <jus...@whatever.org> wrote in message
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Chakolate
> ya know... I think it's because so many of these companies do not want
> to hire people for the long term. It's odd how that the number
> crunchers conclude it's cheaper to have employees come and go
> frequently than stay on and on. It may very well be true.
Only on the surface. Even for a low-level job, it takes a while for any
employee to get up to speed and to be worth what he's paid. The higher
the level, the longer it takes. A friend who is a quant (a
mathematician who evaluates risk and value for securities-type
corporations) says it takes a full year for a new quant to get up to
speed.
Number crunchers like those are just wrong.
Chak
--
No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of
policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets.
--Edward Abbey
nemo
"JD Cooper" <b...@humbug.net> wrote in message
news:MIGdnQwmqMXuqnLY...@texas.net...
> Dink wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:07:27 -0600, JD Cooper wrote in message
> > <9ZednfCQVZg1unLY...@texas.net> :
> >
> >
> >>nemo wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What a blessed reliefffffffffffffffffffffffff!
> >>>
> >>>Just arrived back with aching feets from the Job Centre/Unemployment
Office
> >>>(it's around 2 miles away) after signing off Job Squeakers' Allowance
(Dole)
> >>>for good and onto Pension Credit - the government's marvellous new way
of
> >>>getting unemployable old farts like me off the unemployment
statistics -
> >>>which consists of twice as much per week as the Dole plus full Housing
and
> >>>Council Tax Benefits - and with ***no compulsion to look for work
anymore!!
> >>>(v.b.)
> >>>
> >>>Good, innit?!!! - AND I also get the old fogey's official badge of
honour: a
> >>>free bus and London Underground/Docklands Light Railway pass, AND a
winter
nemo
> nemo wrote:
>
> > What a blessed reliefffffffffffffffffffffffff!
> >
> > Just arrived back with aching feets from the Job Centre/Unemployment
Office
> > (it's around 2 miles away) after signing off Job Squeakers' Allowance
(Dole)
> > for good and onto Pension Credit - the government's marvellous new way
of
> > getting unemployable old farts like me off the unemployment statistics -
> > which consists of twice as much per week as the Dole plus full Housing
and
> > Council Tax Benefits - and with ***no compulsion to look for work
anymore!!
> > (v.b.)
> >
> > Good, innit?!!! - AND I also get the old fogey's official badge of
honour: a
> > free bus and London Underground/Docklands Light Railway pass, AND a
winter
Someone - might have been on here - said that he'd applied for a job with B
& Q, a large UK DIY chain who claim to specialise in employing older people.
He got to the interview OK, but said the young girl conducting it knew
absolutely nothing about DIY and didn't understand the answers to her own
questions!
:o) You gotta laugh or you'll cry!
nemo
discrimination.
What the legislators forgot was: how the hell do you prove it? All an
employer has to do is say, "Sorry. Somebody better qualified came along" and
that's that.
nemo
"Dink" <nos...@invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:s5buu2p2flucmq3k5...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:07:27 -0600, JD Cooper wrote in message
> <9ZednfCQVZg1unLY...@texas.net> :
>
> >nemo wrote:
> >
> >> What a blessed reliefffffffffffffffffffffffff!
> >>
> >> Just arrived back with aching feets from the Job Centre/Unemployment
Office
> >> (it's around 2 miles away) after signing off Job Squeakers' Allowance
(Dole)
> >> for good and onto Pension Credit - the government's marvellous new way
of
> >> getting unemployable old farts like me off the unemployment
statistics -
> >> which consists of twice as much per week as the Dole plus full Housing
and
> >> Council Tax Benefits - and with ***no compulsion to look for work
anymore!!
> >> (v.b.)
> >>
> >> Good, innit?!!! - AND I also get the old fogey's official badge of
honour: a
> >> free bus and London Underground/Docklands Light Railway pass, AND a
winter
Yeah! That one's almost as comical as the piece of paper I got from my old
firm when they decided to make me redundant, saying they'd look around the
company to see if there was anything else they could employ me in, but
otherwise, in a week's time, I was redundant.
I was delighted they didn't find anything actually. What had started as a
damned good job in a small almost family firm just up the road to here run
by real gentlemen who had respect for their workers had turned into a
stressed-out chaotic ordeal every day in a noisy, draughty old warehouse in
Borehamwood run by a bullying management-psychology freak of an absolute
shit-head called Melvyn Harries who, by ditching everything except the
Korean market, nearly ran the firm into bankruptcy when their economy
collapsed! - hence the redundancies.
nemo
"**Dalin**" <lj...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:46013da5...@130.133.1.4...
management experience at my old firm and from becoming involved in
organising a huge campaign to stop the local Council winkling us out of our
homes and turning our estate into a hotel for the new Channel tunnel Rail
Link terminal around the corner, I suddenly realised I'd become a pretty
good administrator and campaigner, so that's what I've been applying for.
The result? In seven years - nothing at all in administration. Just five
weeks assembling allegedly professional audio leads and stage boxes for VDC
Trading (Van Damme) and three weeks as a casual postal sorter Christmas
before last.
Even after two very good admin courses run by the NHS I got nowhere.
If all my various job applications had gone in on paper instead of online
and I'd have kept copies, I'd have around a hundredweight of paper to throw
out today! And people call me a scrounger!
nemo
Italian, Irish, Yiddish and Rubbish!
From what I've learned recently, it looks as if retirement isn't too good
over there unless you've got a good company pension or have made your own
private provisions.
It's getting like that over here - except so many company pension funds have
gone bust and others mismanaged or been robbed blind by sharks like Robert
Maxwell, that the whole idea seems to be falling to bits. That's probably
one of the other reasons why our government brought in Pension Credit.
nemo
"Chakolate" <chakolateDea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98ED15B142AD5c...@207.115.17.102...
> JD Cooper <b...@humbug.net> wrote in
> news:je6dnbZk5oOYpnLY...@texas.net:
>
> > ya know... I think it's because so many of these companies do not want
> > to hire people for the long term. It's odd how that the number
> > crunchers conclude it's cheaper to have employees come and go
> > frequently than stay on and on. It may very well be true.
>
> Only on the surface. Even for a low-level job, it takes a while for any
> employee to get up to speed and to be worth what he's paid. The higher
> the level, the longer it takes. A friend who is a quant (a
> mathematician who evaluates risk and value for securities-type
> corporations) says it takes a full year for a new quant to get up to
> speed.
>
> Number crunchers like those are just wrong.
>
> Chak
>
did I get?? I got called a clever-dick!
nemo
"Mikals12" <oldergoof...@ease.com> wrote in message
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> Taggin along.... good to hear your free!! Enjoy it....
Fan queue! It's a very nice feeling!
nemo
"Anne Jackson" <amyg...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3130303034323...@zetnet.co.uk...
> > out who you are, but I must congratulate you anyway. Your happiness
> > is contagious!
>
> wonderful bloody government of ours actually _pays_ people to
> sit around on their arses and do nothing...no damned wonder this
> once great country of ours is going down the bloody pan! 8-(
>
Listen carefully. I shell say deesss only wirnce:
Go and stick your head up a dead bear's bum!
8-D
nemo
"Sue" <kup...@alltel.net> wrote in message
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turned out to be! Nearest thing to a second hitler, she was, only this time
with ordinary working people as the universal scapegoat instead of Jews,
Gypsies, Slavs, gays etc.. And I'm not joking. She was really scary.
nemo
Oops!
>
> Dalin
There's always one. Plobably works in an underpaid job in a Job Centre and
her husband's a Freemason!
Take no notice - or on second thoughts, take a big heavy notice reading
"It's all Thatcher's Fault" and wallop her round the head with it! - hard!
nemo
nemo
"Joan F (MI)" <jjfahl@(removethis)ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:JfadnYGpv4EB2nLY...@giganews.com...
> Congratulations, pays to be an old fart sometimes. I retired when I was
62
> and love it. People talk about having trouble adjusting to retirement,
it
> took me only as long as it took to drive home on my last day.
Exactly the same here.
Like I said, the walk home was very pleasant with lots of positive thoughts
but it's only really sunk in this morning, getting up early because I wanted
to rather than had to and sitting here at the computer looking at all these
nice messages <snipe>except for the usual couple of jealous Thatcherites
who'd begrudge a starving man a crust of bread if he hadn't earned it :o)
</snipe> while listening to very happy Irish folk music and guiltily
thinking "There's something else I should be doing" and realising there
isn't - and with a very few rare exceptions like the odd medical appointment
now and again - there never will be anything I *have* to do!!!
<small rant>
As part of getting my head around my new situation, I've been reminiscing
and have compiled a list of 'Don't Matter Nows' - and all this silly and
bitter whinging and whining that happens when people end up living on
benefits they're fully and legally entitled to receive because they've paid
in for them all the years they've been working via their National Insurance
contributions and Income Tax, is pretty near the top of the list!! So there!
</small rant>
OK. Back to the happy stuff. What shall I do this afternoon? I know.
Thinking of the nearly four grand that'll be arriving in my bank a/c on
Monday, I'll have a wander around the West End and have a look at all the
nice electronic toys in all the shops in Tottenham Court Road etc. -
especially the computers - before this old thing finally falls to bits or
explodes!! There are boring things to get as well of course. I'll need to
have a look at the stoves and fridge-freezers in John Lewis as well.
**Dalin**
A lot of companies here are getting out of pensions now. Instead they
offer various investment plans and will match up to a certain
percentage what you put in those plans. If you don't save, then you
just don't get much of anything when you retire. And of course,
depending on what you invest in, you could lose some money too.
I'm not sure what Pension Credit is. You put a little in each
paycheck and then collect a monthly check when you reach a certain
age?
I'm a mongrel too. <g>
Dalin
**Dalin**
Anne is a feisty Scots lady, you don't want to mess with her. <g>
Dalin
>
Chakolate
@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
> You don't know me and you don't know what you're talking about.
>
> Listen carefully. I shell say deesss only wirnce:
>
> Go and stick your head up a dead bear's bum!
>
Hmm. With such a charming personality, it simply amazes me that you
haven't been able to find employment.
Joan F (MI)
Chakolate
"Joan F \(MI\)" <jjfahl@(removethis)ameritech.net> wrote in
news:56CdnQv3pOwD-W3Y...@giganews.com:
mmj1
> Mick Fanner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Interesting that I often see/hear/read stories of how companies actively
>>>seek out older, more seasoned employees... them being something the
>>>current set of juveniles are not which is steady, reliable, and have work
>>>ethic. The problem with these stories is that they're bunk! I know of not
>>>one single fellow my age looking for work to be hirable. (Except at
>>>minimum wage jobs greeting people at Wal Mart.) There's no way for me to
>>>think I'd be hired by anyone in my profession at my age now.
>>
>>
>> Dunno how old you are JD, but my buddy runs his own business and has
>> a policy of actively seeking out persons who would qualify for *this*
>> group. He uses young thrusting types on the sales staff but when it comes
>> to all other situations, he eschews yoof like the plague. Of course his
>> problem is that he's not actually allowed to specify age in
>> any advert for any vacancy and he cannot legally refuse someone a job
>> because they are too young. And he doesn't automatically retire folks
>> when they get to 65 (gents
>> retiring age over here). In fact he's got the hump because his right hand
>> man passed 65 last year and had the damned gall to leave. <lol>
>>
>
> main stream company. I was speaking about main stream companies. No, they
> can't "necessarily" consider age over here, but they *DO*.
>
> :-)
>
You got that right, JD.
mj (speaking from experience)
Joan F (MI)
Anne Jackson wrote:
|
| Joan, unusually for you, you know not of what you speak...
**Dalin**
wrote:
>The message from "Joan F \(MI\)" <jjfahl@(removethis)ameritech.net>
>contains these words:
>> Anne Jackson wrote:
>> |
>> | Joan, unusually for you, you know not of what you speak...
>
>> Yes, I do, I know what a struggle it is for people who can't find a job.
>
>There is _always_ work in London. Perhaps not in a trade in which
>one is qualified, but work is available for those that want it...
>why else would there be so many immigrants, particularly from Eastern
>Europe, pouring into the capital? *They've* managed to find work...!
>
>If I were to move to London tomorrow, I can guarantee you that I'd be
>working by the end of next week.
>
>BUT if the government gives someone enough money to live on, there's
>little incentive to go *seriously* looking for work.
If you lose your job, does the government give you this money forever?
Dalin
nemo
(What *is* the plural of haggis?)
nemo
> > > >The message from **Dalin** <lj...@mindspring.com> contains these
words:
> > > >
> > > >> LOL! I guess you aren't an American then. I'm still trying to
figure
> > > >> out who you are, but I must congratulate you anyway. Your
happiness
> > > >> is contagious!
> > > >
> > > >He's a lazy, idle layabout, who hasn't worked for years...this
> > > >wonderful bloody government of ours actually _pays_ people to
> > > >sit around on their arses and do nothing...no damned wonder this
> > > >once great country of ours is going down the bloody pan! 8-(
>
> > Oops!
>
and
> > her husband's a Freemason!
>
years
> after my 'official retiring age'...Bill couldn't find a job after being
> compulsorily retired at 60, so he too is in business for himself. We
Scots
> have a strong work ethic, you see...unlike some others on this little
> island of ours!
>
> > Take no notice - or on second thoughts, take a big heavy notice reading
> > "It's all Thatcher's Fault" and wallop her round the head with it! -
hard!
>
> live quite comfortably on what is laughably called Job Seekers Allowance!
>
> 'Job Seekers' MY ARSE!
>
I have no desire to seek your arse, or anyone else's for that matter.
nemo
> "nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> wrote in news:nXSHh.52630$nW6.13496
> @fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
>
> > You don't know me and you don't know what you're talking about.
> >
> > Listen carefully. I shell say deesss only wirnce:
> >
> > Go and stick your head up a dead bear's bum!
> >
>
> Hmm. With such a charming personality, it simply amazes me that you
> haven't been able to find employment.
>
nemo
nemo
> > |
> > | Hmm. With such a charming personality, it simply amazes me
> > | that you haven't been able to find employment.
> > |
> > | Chak
>
> > Well, I must say his target asked for it.
>
>
nemo
> > |
> > | Joan, unusually for you, you know not of what you speak...
>
> > Yes, I do, I know what a struggle it is for people who can't find a job.
>
Oh no there isn;t!
> Perhaps not in a trade in which
> one is qualified, but work is available for those that want it...
Admin is supposed to be univeraslly in demand - but not to anyone over 50.
> why else would there be so many immigrants, particularly from Eastern
> Europe, pouring into the capital? *They've* managed to find work...!
>
> If I were to move to London tomorrow, I can guarantee you that I'd be
> working by the end of next week.
Go on then and other irrelephant challenging phrases. There might even be a
job going at London Zoo! :o)
>
> BUT if the government gives someone enough money to live on, there's
> little incentive to go *seriously* looking for work.
>
That is a lie - and a lie based upon the utterly inaccurate premise that the
unemployed are all morally bankrupt!
Obviously, the best incentive is wanting to continue to contribute to
society and in my case, to give something back to the NHS which has saved my
life a number of times over the last few years. (Emergency Splenectomy, DVTs
and PEs, several attacks of severe AF with low INR.)
That is why I applied for a post as a trainee special health advisor where
my advanced knowledge of nutrition and diet and health would have been
useful - didn't get it because, I was told, a huge number of ex-nurses had
applied after leaving to have kids and wanting to return but in a 9 to 5
job, but they kept my details on file and eventually invited me onto a
'community outreach' recruitment scheme intended to provide administrators
for Great Ormond Street Hospital from local communities.
This involved two intensive training courses at the hospital for posts such
as Ward Housekeeper, Ward Administrator or Medical Secretary - all fairly
low paid but incredibly worthwhile. The result? One interview where it was
obvious they'd already made up their minds already and were only going
through the motions, and out of 34 people on the courses, only two got jobs.
Then in the middle of my shooting off applications one after another as soon
as jobs were advertised, the Council's refurbishment scheme for my estate
began and they stipulated that someone had to be on the premises all the
time the workmen were on site. So that was the end of that - and as the
less callous of you here might imagine, after seeing the marvellous work of
Great Ormond Street Hospital I'd set my heart on finding a post there and
was devastated when all this came to nothing.
And after the works finished, the NHS ran into another huge deficit and they
stopped recruiting and cut back again on admin staff - just like the Tory
press told them to do!
I ask you - would you rather have doctors treating people, or dealing with
mounds of paperwork that administrators would normally be dealing with?
Another piece of evil Tory dogma that's full of holes!
And people should be starved into work, eh? Odd. I've always been lead to
believe that the UK was a civilised country.
Perhaps I should have gone seriously looking for work as a comedian. There
seem to be a lot of them about. As soon as anybody starts talking about
work, unemployment and benefits, they all come rushing out of the woodwork
like little clockwork mice all programmed to squeak the same ill-informed,
inaccurate and callous right-wing propaganda with absolutely no idea of what
they're talking about or the individual circumstances of the victims of
their libel and slander. Goebbels would have been proud of them!
I used to be in civil engineering - manufacturing, testing, calibrating and
servicing ultrasonic testers used for detecting faults in concrete, and did
a good bit of design work on one instrument when a modified version was
required for an unusual task and was thanked and congratulated by the boss,
who at that time was a real gentleman. That lasted until, as I've said
already, the new idiot boss we got after a takeover refused to expand into
markets other than South Korea and lead the firm into near-bankruptcy when
the Korean economy disappeared overnight.
The clockwork right-wing mice would never criticise him though - because he
is management - a different species of Homo Sapiens to ordinary working
people, and therefore totally infallible and beyond reproach! (irony)
And there are Bulgarian guys putting up a new building opposite. Any old job
you want I should take? A day of lugging RSJs about like that would kill
me! - but could any one of them produce an illuminated manuscript?
That's it! I should have designed a TARDIS and gone back to the Middle Ages
as a scribe! Of course! And I'd have had a much better chance of doing that
than finding a job after being made redundant at the age of 53!
And I thought I'd better mention my redundancy again before someone else
rabidly prejudiced against the unemployed accuses me of having been sacked -
again with absolutely no knowledge of my true circumstances.
Anyway - I must say that having to argue against this sort of pig-ignorant
right-wing bigoted prejudice is becoming rather boring, so I'll go back to
the good stuff again - like this morning when my retirement sunk in a little
more and I found myself trying to get my breakfast ready while
uncontrollably dancing with happiness to some traditional Irish folk music
I'd put on! :o)
Do these right-wing bigots really think their nasty, petty-minded,
ill-informed, whinging, whining, mealy-mouthed, pig-ignorant, prejudiced,
jealous sniping can stand up against that sort of happiness? (Owzat for a
list of adjectives?)
And then later when I was out shopping, I noticed Sainsbury's had a special
offer on Irish Whiskey. I'd never tried it before and I thought: OK. If that
stuff comes from the same place as that brilliant music, let's give it a
try. It's beeeeeautiful! And I bought it with money from a tax rebate from
three weeks as a 'Christmas Casual' sorter with Royal Mail two Christmases
ago - in the middle of which I was taken ill with the first of the AF
attacks. Another piece of bad luck.
I suppose in some people's eyes, accepting this tax rebate also makes me a
scrounger!
And I'm sure that the only reaction this reply will elicit from the
A4mentioned bigots will be a gloating, "Oooh. Look at all the typing we've
made him do!"
And now that I've defended myself in such a robust way, I now fully expect
the traditional Usenet nutters' reaction - continuing even more severe and
vicious attacks precisely *because* I have defended myself.
Blimey! It's 03:00 already. How time flies when you're having fun. Still -
Iyyyyy don't have to get up early in the morning any more, DO I???
:o)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
nemo
Again, I find assertion deeply offensive because it assumes that all people
who are out of work are morally bankrupt.
> If you lose your job, does the government give you this money forever?
>
>
£57.45 per week plus Housing and Council Tax Benefits is hardly 'enough'.
The only reason I managed to eat fairly well is that after being Vegan for
over 45 years I know one hell of a lot about nutrition and can cook well
enough not to need to buy expensive take-aways and can make very appetising
and nourishing meals from cheap ingredients - and I can repair anything that
goes wrong around the home, I can mend my clothes (Ohhh! The shame of it -
not being able to but new ones! :o) and can construct any furniture I need
from the large amounts of scrap timber people around here are kind enough to
throw away.
The legal position on benefits is that you are *fully legally entitled to
them* all the time that you are genuinely looking for work and failing to
find any.
When you first sign on, and subsequently at various reviews, you tell your
advisor the kinds of work you are qualified for, the sort of wage you are
after, the sort of distance you are prepared to travel and the sort of
training you believe might help you. These criteria are drafted into your
Job Seekers' Agreement.
You have to give written accounts of what you have been doing to find work
each time you sign on (usually fortnightly) and if the Job Centre staff
become suspicious they can make checks, and if they find you've not been
doing enough, then you can lose your benefits. This has never happened to me
by the way. They have always been satisfied with my efforts to find work. If
you do lose your benefits there is a right of appeal to a tribunal.
Occasionally you have to attend compulsory 'New Deal' courses run by private
companies such as WorkDirect in Great Portland Street, who are very good
incidentally. While you are on one of these, your Job Seekers' Agreement is
suspended and you have to go after any job at all that the Job Centre
specifies - and they are not toooo good at explaining this to you. The
company running the course do, however, still try to help you find the kind
of work you are looking for.
On these courses, you receive more intense assistance in job seeking, advice
and training in preparing a CV, completing job application forms -
particularly the all important 'Personal Statement' part - and how to
present yourself at job interviews. To date, I have received four sets of
this sort of training from various agencies.
You can also be given a grant to obtain smart clothes to improve your
chances at interviews. Unfortunately, the nice pinstripe business suit I got
fell victim to moths very quickly so was not much use. 'New Wool' indeed. As
thin as paper it was! I felt like a fish out of water in the damned thing
anyway so it was no great loss.
I was on one of these courses until last week when I was able to leave
because of the approach of the second, even more intensive part of the
course which is purely voluntary for anyone over 50 - thus showing that even
the DWP and WorkDirect realise that only so much can be done to place
someone of that age in a job.
I was also with the agencies: Getting London Working Partnership (not much
use!); Wrinkleys :o) - an older persons' job agency now defunct; Charity
People, and more recently I have registered with JobsInCharities and
CharityJob, from whom I receive regular e-mail bulletins.
So there is a lot of assistance out there, but if you're fifty or
thereabouts, it's not much use.
nemo
> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:02:26 GMT, "nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> wrote:
>
> >
> >"**Dalin**" <lj...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >news:45ff3c12...@130.133.1.4...
> >> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:46:06 GMT, "nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> wrote:
> >>
> >> >What a blessed reliefffffffffffffffffffffffff!
> >> >
> >> >Just arrived back with aching feets from the Job Centre/Unemployment
> >Office
> >> >(it's around 2 miles away) after signing off Job Squeakers' Allowance
> >(Dole)
> >> >for good and onto Pension Credit - the government's marvellous new way
of
> >> >getting unemployable old farts like me off the unemployment
statistics -
> >> >which consists of twice as much per week as the Dole plus full Housing
> >and
> >> >Council Tax Benefits - and with ***no compulsion to look for work
> >anymore!!
> >> >(v.b.)
> >> >
> >> >Good, innit?!!! - AND I also get the old fogey's official badge of
> >honour: a
> >> >free bus and London Underground/Docklands Light Railway pass, AND a
> >winter
http://www.thepensionservice.gov.uk/pensioncredit/home.asp
nemo
>
thoughts
> > but it's only really sunk in this morning, getting up early because I
wanted
> > to rather than had to and sitting here at the computer looking at all
these
> > nice messages <snipe>except for the usual couple of jealous Thatcherites
> > who'd begrudge a starving man a crust of bread if he hadn't earned it
:o)
>
> supporter, because we still have a really socialist party here in
> Scotland, unlike the poor saps down south.
OUCH!!!!! Well stop sounding like one then! :o)
I don't support the labour Party anymore because it's no longer a real one.
It's just another Tory party.
>
> Having said that, I would bar all able-bodied folk from receiving
> dole money...the Welfare State (of which we are justly proud) wasn't
> set up to allow lazy buggers to sit around on their arse all day,
> playing with their computer. In my world, if you don't work you
> wouldn't eat...simple, innit!
>
That's the trouble. You're assuming all unemployed people are out of work
because they're lazy, which is not the case. Some are - and I could name a
few, but they're very much in the minority. It's as simple as that. If you'd
had the job seeking training and assistance I've had over the years and the
piles of rejected applications in spite of it you'd know.
Ageism in recruitment *does* exist. There's no question. If it didn't,
Parliament would hardly have gone to all the trouble of bringing in new
legislation to prohibit it last September. In fact I think the only way a
bloke in his 50s is going to find a job these days is if he becomes a
Freemason!
And most of the time I've been sitting around on my arse in front of my
computer I've been voluntarily assisting local Councillors with various
problems particularly with regard to community safety, pollution and Health
and Safety at Work issues involving contractors doing work for the Council,
putting my graphics skills at the disposal of various community groups for
their newsletters etc., at some risk to myself have been instrumental I
bringing to an end a plague of dangerous motor-scooter riding last summer
including giving evidence and during the first few years of my unemployment,
I spent a huge amount of time and effort organising residents to take over a
working group founded by the Council to keep us quiet and turning it to its
intended purpose of stopping the Council from winkling us out of our homes
to turn the estate into a hotel for the new Channel Tunnel terminus around
the corner at Saint Pancras!
In fact I've worked much much harder voluntarily than I ever did in my last
job!
nemo
"Anne Jackson" <amyg...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3130303034323...@zetnet.co.uk...
> The message from "nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> contains these words:
> > > The message from "nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> contains these words:
> > > > > Anne Jackson <amyg...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > >He's a lazy, idle layabout, who hasn't worked for years...this
> > > > > >wonderful bloody government of ours actually _pays_ people to
> > > > > >sit around on their arses and do nothing...no damned wonder this
> > > > > >once great country of ours is going down the bloody pan! 8-(
> > >
> > > > Oops!
> > >
> > > > There's always one. Plobably works in an underpaid job in a
> > > > Job Centre and her husband's a Freemason!
> > >
> > > Wrong! I'm self-employed, and I work bloody hard for my money...
> > > job after being compulsorily retired at 60, so he too is in business
> > > for himself. We Scots have a strong work ethic, you see...unlike
> > > some others on this little island of ours!
> > >
> > > > Take no notice - or on second thoughts, take a big heavy notice
> > > > reading "It's all Thatcher's Fault" and wallop her round the head
> > > > with it! - hard!
> > >
> > > A lot of it *was* Thatcher's fault, the rest is down to people who
could
> > > live quite comfortably on what is laughably called Job Seekers
Allowance!
> > > 'Job Seekers' MY ARSE!
> > >
> > I have no desire to seek your arse, or anyone else's for that matter.
>
> around, doing nothing?
>
> --
That's it. You're nothing but a humourless bigot. I've nothing more to say
to you.
**Dalin**
wrote:
>The message from **Dalin** <lj...@mindspring.com> contains these words:
>Dalin, that's not a question that I am qualified to answer...thankfully,
>as I've never been in the position! I have worked at a variety of jobs,
>to keep a roof over the heads of my children, to feed and clothe them.
>Not always the most desirable, or best-paying jobs, either, but you
>take what you can get, don't you...
>
>I know people in this town who have _never_ worked, had family who have
>never worked, and now have grandchildren who have no work ethic, so it
>would seem that, given enough effort, not to work _can_ be an option.
>
>If they were to put the effort into finding a job that they expend in
>avoiding work, who can say what could be achieved?
There is a third group of people, those who are experienced and
qualified and won't take a lesser job because .... as David says .....
you will never rise to the level where you were before. If you are
young, as David was at 48, that's important to have the same earning
power you had before. Future benefits are tied in to your salary. If
you are older and within a few years of retirement anyway then it's
not so important. The thing is in this country anyway, it is hard to
find a corporate job if you are over 45. You are considered over the
hill that early.
Dalin
**Dalin**
>And now that I've defended myself in such a robust way, I now fully expect
>the traditional Usenet nutters' reaction - continuing even more severe and
>vicious attacks precisely *because* I have defended myself.
>
>Blimey! It's 03:00 already. How time flies when you're having fun. Still -
>Iyyyyy don't have to get up early in the morning any more, DO I???
>:o)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
We don't do that here Nemo. Play nice and I'll loan you my red
crayon. :-)
Dalin
**Dalin**
>> I'm not sure what Pension Credit is. You put a little in each
>> paycheck and then collect a monthly check when you reach a certain
>> age?
>>
>> I'm a mongrel too. <g>
>>
>Welcome to the Heinz 57 club! :o)
>
>http://www.thepensionservice.gov.uk/pensioncredit/home.asp
It looks like people who are 60 get more than if they are 65? Or is
the figure for over 65 in addition to the first?
Dalin
nemo
> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:24:41 +0000, Mick Fanner
> <mick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:07:27 -0600, JD Cooper wrote:
> >
> >> Interesting that I often see/hear/read stories of how companies
actively
> >> seek out older, more seasoned employees... them being something the
> >> current set of juveniles are not which is steady, reliable, and have
> >> work ethic. The problem with these stories is that they're bunk! I know
> >> of not one single fellow my age looking for work to be hirable. (Except
> >> at minimum wage jobs greeting people at Wal Mart.) There's no way for
me
> >> to think I'd be hired by anyone in my profession at my age now.
> >
> >Dunno how old you are JD, but my buddy runs his own business and has
> >a policy of actively seeking out persons who would qualify for *this*
> >group. He uses young thrusting types on the sales staff but when it comes
> >to all other situations, he eschews yoof like the plague.
> >
> >Of course his problem is that he's not actually allowed to specify age in
> >any advert for any vacancy and he cannot legally refuse someone a job
> >because they are too young.
> >
> >And he doesn't automatically retire folks when they get to 65 (gents
> >retiring age over here). In fact he's got the hump because his right hand
> >man passed 65 last year and had the damned gall to leave. <lol>
>
> find something else despite all his experience. I think it matters if
> you are in a technical field. many employers here don't feel the "old
> timers" have kept up and often they know so much more than the
> younguns. But they can also get the younguns at a much cheaper salary
> too.
>
I fit that description I'm afaraid. That's why I've given up going after
jobs in electronics, although if a really good one came along (wishful
thinking) and I decided to go for it, there are still enough brain cells
left for me to bring myselt up to date.
But anyway, I *like* building stuff with valves/tubes, discrete transistors
and old logic element chips such as CMOS, and nice old slow processors such
as the Z80 and SC/MP.
nemo
> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:46:06 GMT, "nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> wrote:
>
> >What a blessed reliefffffffffffffffffffffffff!
> >
> >Just arrived back with aching feets from the Job Centre/Unemployment
Office
> >(it's around 2 miles away) after signing off Job Squeakers' Allowance
(Dole)
> >for good and onto Pension Credit - the government's marvellous new way of
> >getting unemployable old farts like me off the unemployment statistics -
> >which consists of twice as much per week as the Dole plus full Housing
and
> >Council Tax Benefits - and with ***no compulsion to look for work
anymore!!
> >(v.b.)
> >
> >Good, innit?!!! - AND I also get the old fogey's official badge of
honour: a
> >free bus and London Underground/Docklands Light Railway pass, AND a
winter
Knock knock!
Who's there?
M.A.B. it's a big horse!
M.A.B. it's a big horse who?
|
V
|
V
|
V
(sings)
M.A.B. it's a big horse I'm a Londoner
That I love London so.
M.A.B. it's a big horse I'm a Londoner
That I think of her, wherever I go.
I get a funny feelin inside er me
Just walkin up and down.
M.A.B. it's a big horse I'm a Londoner,
That I love London Town!
(ISIRTA)
nemo
politicians like to put it, so I assume that nobody gets less than that
including any other income they have.
Joan F (MI)
abuse, but I am also well aware of the difficulty in finding employment,
particularly for older people.
Anne Jackson wrote:
|
| She's an AMERICAN, who knows absolutely NOTHING about the Welfare
| State, and the abuses thereof...
|
| PS My apologies to every subscriber who comes here to escape
| political arguments...
Joy
It is also possible to be told that you are overqualified for a job, if you
are willing to take a lesser one. I've known of several people that
happened to.
Joy
**Dalin**
wrote:
That's true too. I think employers thing if you take a lesser job
than you're qualified for that you will leave as soon as you find a
job that is better.
Dalin
>
nemo
No need for no red crayon fanx. I got Berol KarismaColour pencils already I
won in a draw, Carb-Otello pastel ones, Derwent and Durer water-soluble
ones, all full sets, as are Rowney pastels and a hyoodge three layer box of
Royal Talens ones I ain't even started on yet. Very convenient and enjoyable
to use. No messy oil sloshin about and smelly turps.
That's another reason why I'm not going to die of boredom.
A tip: I got the Talens ones at well under half-price at the *end* of an
artists' materials exhibition. It's good to wait until the end of any
exhibition where they're selling stuff to see what discounts they put on
anything they don't want to take back to the shop - especially big boxes of
pastels that weigh a ton.
nemo
"Joan F (MI)" <jjfahl@(removethis)ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:XKidneHGzIY2FWzY...@giganews.com...
**Dalin**
You're talking a foreign language to me. <g> So you draw? If you
have a talent to do that I guess you never will be bored. I think
you're the third artist we have on the group. Can we see some of your
work?
Dalin
>
>
Joy
Yes, and nine times out of ten they're right.
Joy
nemo
It's a group all servers seem to have and the people there don't seem to
mind. I dunno how to work those new-fangled blog things.
I'll mark em FAO fiftyplus.
BeeLady
BJ
"nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> wrote in message
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**Dalin**
nemo
"BeeLady" <bee...@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45f2b99f$0$27043$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
> What talent! Absolutely amazing!
> BJ
>
I wish I could sell a few though.
Nemo.
Ohhhh! It's really like being in heaven, to retire in 2007!!
nemo
Try this free server
news://dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu
Clicking the link should set it up.
It's read-only but has the advantage that there's virtually no naughty stuff
on it.
**Dalin**
But I don't want to change my set up and clicking the link doesn't
work.
You could put up one or two on our blog. It's just like sending an
attachment in an e-mail except the size will be reduced.
Dalin
>
Joan F (MI)
I found them and saved them so if Nemo says it's okay I could put them on my
PictureTrail, it does a fair job of maintaining the size.
**Dalin**
PictureTrail also lets you choose the size. :-) that's one thing I
don't like about the blog, it reduces everything. I guess it's better
than nothing though to show our pics.
Dalin
Marilee
> With the size reduced the impact will be gone. The detail is magnificent.
> I found them and saved them so if Nemo says it's okay I could put them on
> my
> PictureTrail, it does a fair job of maintaining the size.
Wouldn't forwarding them as emails work?
Marilee
Chakolate
news:sVwIh.122142$HO5....@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
> OK. I'll post a couple of things on news:alt.binaries.clip-art
>
> It's a group all servers seem to have and the people there don't seem
> to mind. I dunno how to work those new-fangled blog things.
>
> I'll mark em FAO fiftyplus.
Wow, nemo, those are amazing. My favorite was the stalactite, although
you're right, the perspective isn't perfect. It certainly fires the
imagination! The one with the crane in it is super, too.
What a talent you have! Have you considered doing commercial
illustration?
Chak
--
No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of
policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets.
--Edward Abbey
Joan F (MI)
MB. I'll mail them to anyone who wants them, just let me know.
**Dalin**
<marilee....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Joan F (MI)" <jjfahl@(removethis)ameritech.net> wrote in message
>news:B_ednf4saeQ2s27Y...@giganews.com...
>> With the size reduced the impact will be gone. The detail is magnificent.
>> I found them and saved them so if Nemo says it's okay I could put them on
>> my
>> PictureTrail, it does a fair job of maintaining the size.
>
>Wouldn't forwarding them as emails work?
>
>Marilee
It might depend on the file size. Some peeps are still on dial up.
Dalin
**Dalin**
Please e-mail them to me if it's ok with Nemo. Or if the detail
shows, picturetrail would be fine. :-)
Dalin
Chakolate
news:z9ednW2veaXG1W7Y...@giganews.com:
> Yes, but it's quite a bit to email, the files I saved total just under
> 1.86 MB. I'll mail them to anyone who wants them, just let me know.
How do you save the clipart files there, anyway? Just do a screen
capture or something?
nemo
"Anne Jackson" <amyg...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3130303034323...@zetnet.co.uk...
> The message from "nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> contains these words:
>
> > Blimey! It's 03:00 already. How time flies when you're having fun.
Still -
> > Iyyyyy don't have to get up early in the morning any more, DO I???
> > :o)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>
> _do_ have to get up in the morning, though...
>
You have my symphony.
Beethoven's 6th. will do. Nice and restful.
nemo
although if the plug-in is only for displaying slide-shows I might still be
able to post.
My scanner went kaput not long after I'd scanned those pics. That's why
there's nothing more recent. I'll be getting a new one with my new computer
when my lump (ouch!) sum comes through - should arrive any day now - so I'll
be able to post some more.
Got a lot of new ideas in the pipeline too - like a Durer-style tree-city,
subterranean ones of various kinds - that sort of thing, some
straightforward mediæval land- and townscapes and some serious botanical
studies when I get my balcony garden going again.
I gave up on this a few years ago due to squirrels shinning 80ft up the
Cable TV cables, eating everything in sight and gnawing holes in my planters
to build drays! - sorry - dreys. Can't imagine squirrels building a
carthorse! I can afford a roll or two of heavy wire mesh and strong hardwood
for frames now to stop the buggers getting in. They won't arf be annoyed! I
can't wait to see their faces!
I planted borage out there once and it all disappeared, and (inevitably)
left me wondering: Who's been eating *my* borage? (grrrroannnn!)
"**Dalin**" <lj...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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nemo
"Chakolate" <chakolateDea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98EFEC42D5AF3c...@207.115.17.102...
> "Joan F \(MI\)" <jjfahl@(removethis)ameritech.net> wrote in
> news:z9ednW2veaXG1W7Y...@giganews.com:
>
> > Yes, but it's quite a bit to email, the files I saved total just under
> > 1.86 MB. I'll mail them to anyone who wants them, just let me know.
>
> How do you save the clipart files there, anyway? Just do a screen
> capture or something?
>
decide where.
nemo
"Joan F (MI)" <jjfahl@(removethis)ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> I found them and saved them so if Nemo says it's okay I could put them on
my
> PictureTrail, it does a fair job of maintaining the size.
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> **Dalin** wrote:
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That's OK. You have my percussion!
Include the humorous © message though. :o)
A link to em when you've done it would be useful.
In the dim and distant days before my old firm was taken over by the Futile
Group, sorry, the Fulton Group, I did hear a couple of our admin staff
talking about making some cash by selling T-shirts with the Scots Garden one
on without even asking me so I took the copy I'd let them have off the wall.
Took a good few hours over several days that one did - in fact all the
serious ones did. They didn'arf complain.
And one of our dear old wirewomen was off sick for quite a time and when she
returned, I added a banner stretched between the trees to a copy of that one
reading, "Welcome Back Claire!", coloured it and made it into a card and she
was tickled pink, which was quite an achievement seeing as she's from
Barbados! :o)
nemo
> "nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> wrote in
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> > OK. I'll post a couple of things on news:alt.binaries.clip-art
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> > It's a group all servers seem to have and the people there don't seem
> > to mind. I dunno how to work those new-fangled blog things.
> >
> > I'll mark em FAO fiftyplus.
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> Wow, nemo, those are amazing. My favorite was the stalactite, although
> you're right, the perspective isn't perfect. It certainly fires the
> imagination! The one with the crane in it is super, too.
Thanks for your kind remarks.
There were two cranes originally, neither of which was on the 13 : 8 Golden
Section point, so I ignored one and moved the other. Artistic license -
available for Ł25 from any one of Nina Hussein's famous main Paste Officers.
(That's how she pronounced it folks! I nearly fell off my chair laughing!)
At least the structural engineering was right - providing they could have
got hold of some of Arthur C. Clark's diamond-fibre cable!
The drawing of this one on the TV program was structurally unsound,
transport was by balloon :o) and it was done using on size of technical pen
and was dead flat looking.
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> What a talent you have! Have you considered doing commercial
> illustration?
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The trouble with commercial illustration is deadlines. I can only work when
I'm totally relaxed and I get really seriously stressed when I have
deadlines to work to, as I found to my cost when I was doing newsletters and
flyers for a tenants' group we had. I'm not just talking nerves. Physical
symptoms I used to get too.
And it was the feeling of pressure from the Job Centre that stopped me doing
all I'd liked to have done while I was on the Dole. That's all gone now
though, innit?! :oD
**Dalin**
I saw them Nemo. I can't believe the detail you put in on some of
them. I liked the stalactite too. How long did it take you to draw
that?
Dalin
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Joan F (MI)
are two ways you can do it. One is File, Save attachments. The other is to
right click on the image that displays at the bottom of the window and Save.
Joan F (MI)
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=15594301&uid=1526244
I can change the background color and/or pattern and the font color so let
me know if you would like them changed. Unfortunately the City on a
Stalactite was reduced quite a bit but most of the others aren't too bad.
I noticed on the upload page that it said Get Firefox to upload faster so it
should work, not sure what problem you had.
Joan F (MI)
summer, all over the country. Artists spend their winters creating their
wares and then travel around to the fairs to sell them. I have a lot of
unique jewelry I got at Art Fairs. Ann Arbor, Michigan, where I went to Law
School (didn't know you were slandering me, did you?) has quite a famous
one, actually it is several fairs held concurrently with scads of
exhibitors, all kinds of media, I have some pottery from them as well and a
paper mache mirror my daughters bought me. We used to always go together.
http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL827/1526244/6069929/77929574.jpg
Chakolate
news:q%DIh.65086$nW6....@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
> Try this free server
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> news://dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu
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> Clicking the link should set it up.
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> It's read-only but has the advantage that there's virtually no naughty
> stuff on it.
>
I've been unable to connect (time-out) since you posted that. :-(
nemo
> Here you go:
> http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=15594301&uid=1526244
> I can change the background color and/or pattern and the font color so let
> me know if you would like them changed. Unfortunately the City on a
> Stalactite was reduced quite a bit but most of the others aren't too bad.
>
> I noticed on the upload page that it said Get Firefox to upload faster so
it
> should work, not sure what problem you had.
>
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They look fine as they are - and many thanks. I've already e-mailed the link
to a few friends who have trouble with e-mail attachments. I'll try to
subscribe to the site myself when I get around to it.
Anyway - off to get me celebratory nosh ready now. 60 today and
surprisingly, very much still alive - especially after the curry I had last
night!!! - and my lump sum arrived last night too! - so a new PC, digital
camera and all the other trimmings are very much in the offing.
Joan F (MI)
$19.95 a year paid option at PictureTrail because it allows you to link to
photos from another site (like eBay or web forums). I have plenty of space
left.
**Dalin**
Happy Birthday Nemo. :-) I already can tell it's going to be.
All those goodies! What fun!
Dalin
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nemo
Thanks!!
Haven't started getting the goodies yet though. All I've treated myself to
so far is a cheap £20 Freeview set-top box. (Terrestrial digital TV) I'm
waiting for my Pension Credit to start coming into the bank before I
actually start spending.
It should have begun today but there was still one document they needed re-
my occupational pension which I didn't receive till late. I sent it by
Special Delivery Thursday and it arrived pre- 08:00 on Friday.
That still wasn't good enough though. Apparently, in our huge and
magnificently organised Pensions Service, it takes around four working days
for mail delivered to their central mailroom to land on the desk of the
person it's intended for! And I spent £4 on special delivery! *After* he
told me this, the guy dealing with my case said I should have FAXed it from
a Job Centre instead.
And I found myself showing my age a bit on Friday. I was looking at a Canon
EOS 400D camera in a shop and I found myself wondering how on earth you open
the back to get the film in! I'd have looked a right idiot if I'd have
asked! Complicated-looking beast it is.