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gruffydd
though that with this problem I have with colours [NOT colour blind, just
not colour aware] I am having better results with pencil.
I have almost done a practice on thick[ish] white paper and Lady Wife saw it
on my board. Normally I do not present my work to her because of the very
less than negative remarks I get [words like, something better to do, waste
of time etc] which you will agree do not encourage very well.
Now, this one, a still life. !!!
'If that was on proper card, and some colour around the items, you can frame
it for me and I shall put it on the wall in the kitchen'
Result, or no?????
nemo
"gruffydd" <gr...@dinner.com> wrote in message
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Do keep at it. Art is *extremely* rewarding.
The remark that's been the bane of my life has always been, "Far too much
detail." - Even on an Open College of the Arts course where they guaranteed
to help the student develop his/her own chosen style I got that! I didn't
stay very long and it's the reason I've not bothered with courses and
evening classes for years now.
Looks as if you're on the right track. Try using a heavy grade of 'Rough' or
'NOT' artist's watercolour paper and very sharp moderately hard pencils. The
lead sort of cuts into the texture of the paper which stops the pencil
wandering and skipping and steadies your hand, making fine detail quite
easy.
It's best to avoid amateur materials if you can. Students' grade oils and
acrylics can just about be OK but never touch students' grade watercolours -
or Russian ones. They're cheap but they're nothing but chemical dyes and
strange things can happen when they react together.
There's something very encouraging that John Ruskin said in his book, 'The
Elements of Drawing.' After he'd described how to draw a pebble on a flat
surface and how to reproduce the light and shade correctly, he said
something like, 'If you can draw this successfully, you can draw anything.'
What's less encouraging is what he said about Life Drawing. "Best left to
the professionals!" Still - this *was* right in the middle of the Victorian
era. ;o)
Another very good and encouraging book is Jeffrey Camp's 'The Drawing Book.'
Crescent Books, NY, ISBN 0 517 053810.
He has you go at it hammer-and-tongs copying and drawing everything in sight
right from the start - even old masters - and not worrying too much how it
comes out at first, and he covers just about everything under the sun.
Nemo
Jean B.
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artist, so it comes in handy.
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Archie AnzJr.
self portraits being attached to a dart board!
"gruffydd" <gr...@dinner.com> wrote in message
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gruffydd
Teacher said she can always pick mine out as I already have my own style.
Mind you, I do agree with her.
I call it PRE-DEPRESSIONIST
Jean B.
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Joy
That sounds like high praise to me.
Joy
mmj1
mj
david
>> 'If that was on proper card, and some colour around the items, you can
>> frame
>> it for me and I shall put it on the wall in the kitchen'
>> Result, or no?????
>>
> I'd say you are doing great and with that encouragement will soar ahead.
>
> mj
>
>
maybe it's the romantic in me, but i also see a woman wanting to reassure
the man in her life.. and that is so touching...
and i agree with your assessment. we are sometimes too quick to accept
rejection and i admire gruffy for continuing onwards... :)
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nemo
"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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Glad to be of help and I wish her every success.
nemo
You could always have a style of painting which alternates extremely happy
and very sad sections called Manic Depressionist, I suppose. :o) :o(
:o) :o( :o)))))))))))))))
nemo
That's great. And the teacher has accepted your style and isn't trying to
change it?
Another thing that put me off: The one and only time they had us do life
drawing, I did the bloke as was - a fairly accurate account of a human being
with all the bones and muscles in the right places - and that was wrong!
The tutor preferred person-shaped outlines filled with featureless pale
brown! In fact they had loads of those festooned all over the common room
walls and an exhibition a few weeks later.
And this was at The Working Men's College just over the road, where Ruskin
and others pioneered teaching art to the great unwashed masses like me!
I ask you: What is the point of artists and tutors stressing as they do that
life drawing is an essential and tremendously important part of learning to
draw and paint when they're happy with roughly-done person-shaped brown
blobs and don't want drawings that look like the poor, freezing cold model
at all?
My mum, bless her, had a very useful phrase appropriate to so many such
occasions: "You've gotta laugh or you'll cry!"
So now I just plod along doing my own thing and enjoying myself - highly
detailed drawings, the odd illuminated manuscript like the old monks did,
gold leaf and all! And I found out afterwards my painting style is called
Photo Realism. So surely if it's got a name, it must be respectable??
So much for 'Adult Education'!
nemo
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head-and-shoulders cut-out after some local hooligans started yelling
insults up to my window after they spotted whose it was.
I placed it strategically on top of the stuff on the windowsill as if it
were me looking down and spent a very amusing 15 minutes or so at the
kitchen window four rooms along watching them yelling all the insults under
the Sun up at this piece of cardboard!!!
I saw em next day and one of em said in a very serious tone of voice: "You
put a picture of yourself in the window!" (Why *do* kids like to tell you
what you already know and try to make it sound like a deadly serious
accusation at the same time like that?)
I replied, "Yes, and you lot yelled up at it for about a quarter of an hour
didn't you coz you didn't realise! Best fifteen minutes' entertainment I've
had in ages!"
The remainder of the conversation is quite unrepeatable but they did seem to
be rather obsessed with Middle-English posteriors and Anglo-Saxon dibbers
(gardeners' seed-drills) for some reason - oh, and small Dutch spheres as
well! :o)))
Jean B.
Actually, this reminds me of an interesting topic: mental
illness and achievement in the arts (and perhaps other areas).
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Jean B.
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"success".
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Jean B.
nemo
A case in point:
http://www.autismvox.com/stephen-wilshire-draws-rome/