From the Now I've heard everything department
**Dalin**
by the local submarine sandwich place on the way home because the Kirk
kitchen is closed on Wednesdays. At the counter was a jar labeled
"tips". What? We should tip the people for making a sandwich?
That's all they do at the sandwich shops, make sandwiches. That's
what they get paid to do!
When I go to the hair dressers, there is a jar for the shampoo girl.
Isn't that what they are supposed to do, shampoo hair?
Even waitresses. We all tip them. But shouldn't a tip be for extra
service above and beyond what they are hired for? Some places even
add the tip into the bill now. They decide how much you will give.
We went to a starving artist show. You pick your oil painting, pick a
frame and the people where you pay mount the painting for you. And
there is a tip jar there. Isn't that part of their job?
And aren't we all somehow shamed into giving a tip even when it isn't
warranted because it "is expected and everyone does it"?
Think of all the people we give tips to, just for doing their job. I
always thought a tip was for service above and beyond their job.
It's a scam, I tell you!
Dalin
Jim Chandler
orifice in Dallas complain about the tip I left one time. He complained
because I only left a dollar so I told him he was lucky it wasn't a
penny, that his "service" was nonexistant.
JimC
Yoj
many other people are paid minimum wage for doing their job. They
depend on tips to give them enough to live on. I have been cheerfully
putting money in the tip jar at Subway for a couple of years. Most of
their employees are pleasant, extremely efficient, and remember my
preferences. Although I have branched out lately, for a long time I
always got the same kind of sandwich. When I buy a sandwich, I also get
three white chocolate chip macadamia nut cookies. At Christmas before
last, I put something extra into the tip jar. When I got home with my
purchase, I found that, instead of three cookies, they had given me six!
I did enjoy Australia, though, where tips aren't expected, and are
usually given only for exceptional service.
--
Joy
"I like life. It's something to do." --Ronnie Shakes
"**Dalin**" <lj...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Toddy
was about tipping !!
I had totally forgotten how to do it, and was way behind on how much was
expected...... I know Aussies have a bad reputation in this regard, but it
also gives me some pride to know that tips are 'extras' for great service,
and not part of a basic survival wage.
toddy
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Kelly Petit
Kelly
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**Dalin**
weeks ago we went to dinner and the waitress made so many errors I
couldn't believe it. And it was not a busy night. And then David
gave her a tip! Made me so mad. He denies it, but she got that tip
because she was a young, pretty blonde! Grrrr....
Dalin
**Dalin**
wrote:
>The first thing I asked Keith and Margaret, who met me at the airport in LV
>was about tipping !!
>I had totally forgotten how to do it, and was way behind on how much was
>expected...... I know Aussies have a bad reputation in this regard, but it
>also gives me some pride to know that tips are 'extras' for great service,
>and not part of a basic survival wage.
>toddy
I have to agree with you. It doesn't seem fair to pay people less
than minimum wage and expect them to make up the difference in tips.
Dalin
coby
Coby
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**Dalin**
for good service. I think we'll stay home and eat.
Dalin
Yoj
that way. For some things you are supposed to tip 25%, which I think is
outrageous!
--
Joy
"I like life. It's something to do." --Ronnie Shakes
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Huguette
something
to waiters or waitresses. I avoue I hate that too. Huguette
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**Dalin**
Dalin
coby
when you ingore tipping. Almost wondering how much they monthly get from the
boss.(including tipping)
Coby
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coby
Jim Everman
> weeks ago we went to dinner and the waitress made so many errors I
> couldn't believe it. And it was not a busy night. And then David
> gave her a tip! Made me so mad. He denies it, but she got that tip
> because she was a young, pretty blonde! Grrrr....
> Dalin
You should always tip. Otherwise they might assume you just forgot.
While I normally tip 20% when I'm by myself (figuring it's just as
much work to wait on one person as two or more), I have been known to
leave $.25 once or twice...
Jim
Jean B.
Yes. I almost always tip 20 percent, and frequently round up. I
remember when my friend was a waitress. She made very little
money.... A waiter or waitress has to be REALLY bad to get a poor tip
from me....
That reminds me. There are some wait people around here who are
EXTREMELY annoying, hovering around, and swiping things before you are
done, unless you catch them as they swoop in to do so. You don't
exactly want your plate back after it has been plopped on top of other
dirty dishes!
Jean B.
**Dalin**
wrote:
We were in the restaurant once when a man with his family demanded a
lot of extra attention from his waitress. A lot! And he kept
reminding her he knew he was doing so, but she would get a nice big
tip. We watched as he left, and he left nothing.
I really think tipping is demeaning. A person knows they have been
judged by the size of the tip left. How often is the normal person
who works judged on every action he/she performs on the job?
And when is a person working in an office, or as a sales clerk given
money based on whether they are handsome, or pretty, or have a
charismatic personality?
I always tell David after I serve him his dinner that he forgot to
leave a tip. :)
Dalin
**Dalin**
LOL! I think we need to patronize better establishments. I love the
wait people who bring out one meal first while the second person is
still waiting and the first person's food is getting cold.
And when one person finishes before another the wait person removes
the plates of the first person, leaving the second person all alone
with their dinner.
And then the wait person comes by and says "are you still working on
this?"
Dalin
Yoj
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I base the tip on a lot of things. Some waitpersons <G> don't give very
good service to women dining alone, presumably because they assume we
are poor tippers. Guess what? OTOH, I have had people go out of the
way to be helpful. When I got out my book, one waitress offered to move
me to another table where the light was better. I try not to make extra
demands, but if I ask for something that requires an extra trip, and
wasn't something that should have been brought automatically, that goes
onto the tip. One of my Toastmasters clubs meets at a restaurant twice
a month. Often we have the same waitress. She knows what I like to
drink, and brings it when she comes to take my order. That calls for a
little extra on the tip.
If I see or hear another diner giving the server a bad time, and they
keep their cool and stay polite and pleasant, I add to the tip. My
daughter worked as a waitress when she was in college, and I heard
stories about some of the people they had to deal with, so I'm
especially aware of that sort of thing.
I agree, it is really annoying when they try to take your food away
before you've finished it.
Joy
Yoj
>
> We were in the restaurant once when a man with his family demanded a
> lot of extra attention from his waitress. A lot! And he kept
> reminding her he knew he was doing so, but she would get a nice big
> tip. We watched as he left, and he left nothing.
>
That reminds me of the time some of us from our Toastmasters club went
out after a meeting for something to eat. A guest came along, and
ordered a $2.95 item. They brought us one check, and when it came time
to chip in his share, he put down $3.00. He saw me watching and said,
"Oh, I forgot the tip!" Then he added a dime.
Joy
Jean B.
Sure, in an ideal world there might not be tipping. But here you'd
have to change the pay scale of those who depend on tipping before you
can stop doing it.
Jean B.
Jean B.
Yes, there are restaurants here that ALWAYS do that. Makes it pretty
awkward.
Jean B.
Jean B.
Hehe. Still rather cheap.
Jean B.
Jean B.
I am not as scientific about it as you are. In addition to having had
a friend who was a waitress, I, too, have read that women are supposed
to be bad tipper, so I always try to prove that is not necessarily the
case. The waiters do seem to remember us....
Jean B.
Jim Everman
> > lot of extra attention from his waitress. A lot! And he kept
> > reminding her he knew he was doing so, but she would get a nice big
> > tip. We watched as he left, and he left nothing.
> >
> > I really think tipping is demeaning. A person knows they have been
> > judged by the size of the tip left. How often is the normal person
> > who works judged on every action he/she performs on the job?
> >
> > And when is a person working in an office, or as a sales clerk given
> > money based on whether they are handsome, or pretty, or have a
> > charismatic personality?
> >
> > I always tell David after I serve him his dinner that he forgot to
> > leave a tip. :)
> > Dalin
> Sure, in an ideal world there might not be tipping. But here you'd
> have to change the pay scale of those who depend on tipping before you
> can stop doing it.
> Jean B.
You'd also have to overcome the inertia of people who would still
want to leave a tip.
I was working at Boeing (McDonnell Douglas) here in Saint Louis when
they decided to go to "business casual" dress instead of dress shirts
and ties (with jeans but not tee shirts on casual Friday). It was
really tough on some guys who felt nearly naked without a tie (I
wasn't one of them).
On the plus side, what other job(s) has a pay system that instantly
rewards a job well done? (Or conversely...)
Jim
Yoj
Especially since he didn't even consider tax.
Joy
NHunkele
>We were in the restaurant once when a man with his family demanded a
>lot of extra attention from his waitress. A lot! And he kept
>reminding her he knew he was doing so, but she would get a nice big
>tip. We watched as he left, and he left nothing.
>
>I really think tipping is demeaning. A person knows they have been
>judged by the size of the tip left. How often is the normal person
>who works judged on every action he/she performs on the job?
>
>And when is a person working in an office, or as a sales clerk given
>money based on whether they are handsome, or pretty, or have a
>charismatic personality?
>
>I always tell David after I serve him his dinner that he forgot to
>leave a tip. :)
>
>Dalin
It's only right that you should. After all, you're working for room and board.
LOL
Our waitress last night got a healthy tip because she asked my DIL for proof of
age before taking the drink order. It wasn't just flattery. My DIL is
little, cute as a button and doesn't look much older than their 14 year old
daughter. :)
Norma
Arlin
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>Date: 11/16/02 6:24 PM Central Standard Time
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cover the tax on his portion. If he forgot the tax and left a dime added to the
nickel left, then he just left 5%. Part of your tip payed his tax and his tip.
He not only is cheap; he is what we call a "Nickel Nose."
Arlin :-)
Remove "stock" from my address.
Arlin
>Date: 11/16/02 7:21 PM Central Standard Time
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post.
Yoj
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Yup. He never came back, and nobody minded. ;-)
Joy
Arlin
>Date: 11/18/02 2:04 AM Central Standard Time
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smile and chuckle passes through me...LOL!!